[DeTomaso] Fuel cell

Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com
Fri Nov 21 14:23:40 EST 2014 

Ron McCall designed and built a twin-tank set up for my car that is similar
to what Jack is describing. Holds 12.5 gal on each side for a total of 25
gal.

You can chose which side to use or drain from both sides. Gauge can show
fuel volume in either tank. You can fill up from either side.

I have this set up on my Pantera and my Ferrari 308 - both passed NASA and
SCCA tech inspection.

Ron has the blueprints for the tanks so he can easily fab one up for you.
Picture of my 308 tanks attached.



On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com
> wrote:

>    I have seen a pair of fuel cells run in race Panteras in the past. They
>    were simple rectangular blocks about 12" thick and sized to fit one on
>    each side of the engine, with a large connection tube between the two
>    tanks that ran in front of the engine. Each held about 10 gallons.
>    Advantage is, you get better balance since only half the fuel volume is
>    in either tank, and all of it is far lower in the chassis than would be
>    a single tank behind the driver. Disadvantage is more complexity, far
>    more chance of fuel leaks from dual cells, and no gauge. Don't know who
>    built them but any of the commercial fuel-cell builders likely have
>    such. Quella runs a single cell in the front trunk of his
>    tube-frame/plastic-body Pantera that seems about the same size.10
>    gallons or so would be OK for open track events but too small for
>    Silver State or most street use. Power requires fuel: Jr Wilson with
>    around 900 bhp once emptied a 42 gallon cell in only 92 miles of WFO
>    running in one Silver State event....plan accordingly.
>
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
>    To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>    Sent: Fri, Nov 21, 2014 8:03 am
>    Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel cell
>    Some one listed a fuel cell for sale the other day but by the time I
>    made contact it was already spoken for. I an in the process if
>    replacing my engine with a HIPOA engine and would like to replace my
>    fuel tank. Some one mentioned in the past that Dennis Quella at one
>    time carried or could supply a fuel cell that fit A in the original
>    fuel tank space perfectly. Does any one know off any other replacement
>    fuel tanks or fuel cells that fit the original space but offer some
>    advantageous over the original tank? (like a fuel cell, or Superior
>    material , roll over protection etc? If so who carries it and would you
>    know the cost?
>    Thanks,
>    Boyd
>
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   Ron McCall designed and built a twin-tank set up for my car that is
   similar to what Jack is describing. Holds 12.5 gal on each side for a
   total of 25 gal.A
   You can chose which side to use or drain from both sides. Gauge can
   show fuel volume in either tank. You can fill up from either side.
   I have this set up on my Pantera and my Ferrari 308 - both passed NASA
   and SCCA tech inspection.
   Ron has the blueprints for the tanks so he can easily fab one up for
   you. Picture of my 308 tanks attached.

   On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
   <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:

     A  A I have seen a pair of fuel cells run in race Panteras in the
     past. They
     A  A were simple rectangular blocks about 12" thick and sized to fit
     one on
     A  A each side of the engine, with a large connection tube between
     the two
     A  A tanks that ran in front of the engine. Each held about 10
     gallons.
     A  A Advantage is, you get better balance since only half the fuel
     volume is
     A  A in either tank, and all of it is far lower in the chassis than
     would be
     A  A a single tank behind the driver. Disadvantage is more
     complexity, far
     A  A more chance of fuel leaks from dual cells, and no gauge. Don't
     know who
     A  A built them but any of the commercial fuel-cell builders likely
     have
     A  A such. Quella runs a single cell in the front trunk of his
     A  A tube-frame/plastic-body Pantera that seems about the same
     size.10
     A  A gallons or so would be OK for open track events but too small
     for
     A  A Silver State or most street use. Power requires fuel: Jr Wilson
     with
     A  A around 900 bhp once emptied a 42 gallon cell in only 92 miles
     of WFO
     A  A running in one Silver State event....plan accordingly.
     A  A -----Original Message-----
     A  A From: Boyd Casey <[2]boyd411 at gmail.com>
     A  A To: detomaso <[3]detomaso at poca.com>
     A  A Sent: Fri, Nov 21, 2014 8:03 am
     A  A Subject: [DeTomaso] Fuel cell
     A  A Some one listed a fuel cell for sale the other day but by the
     time I
     A  A made contact it was already spoken for. I an in the process if
     A  A replacing my engine with a HIPOA engine and would like to
     replace my
     A  A fuel tank. Some one mentioned in the past that Dennis Quella at
     one
     A  A time carried or could supply a fuel cell that fit A in the
     original
     A  A fuel tank space perfectly. Does any one know off any other
     replacement
     A  A fuel tanks or fuel cells that fit the original space but offer
     some
     A  A advantageous over the original tank? (like a fuel cell, or
     Superior
     A  A material , roll over protection etc? If so who carries it and
     would you
     A  A know the cost?
     A  A Thanks,
     A  A Boyd
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   2. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
   3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   4. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   5. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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