[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 125, Issue 11

Trip Owen lance730 at msn.com
Tue Nov 11 17:17:04 EST 2014


Rob - is there a website of guys that offer this wet blasting around the country - would like to look into this - I
am in the DC area.
Trip
 
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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Re: NPC. Wet blaster video (Jeff Detrich)
>    2. Re: NPC. Wet blaster video (Rob Dumoulin)
>    3. Re: NPC. Wet blaster video (Rob Dumoulin)
>    4. Wheel lug nut configuration (Jeff Detrich)
>    5. Re: HUGH BOYD CASEY (Mike Thomas)
>    6. Re: NPC. Wet blaster video (Mike Thomas)
>    7. Re: NPC. Wet blaster video (Larry - Ohio Time)
>    8. Pandora's 15 minutes of fame (Christopher Kimball)
>    9. Re: Pandora's 15 minutes of fame (Jeff Detrich)
>   10. Re: Pandora's 15 minutes of fame (Christopher Kimball)
>   11. Re: Pandora's 15 minutes of fame (Tom Shinrock)
>   12. Re: Pandora's 15 minutes of fame (Christopher Kimball)
>   13. Hagerty Pantera article (Garth Rodericks)
>   14. Re: Wheel lug nut configuration (Tomas Gunnarsson)
>   15. Veterns Day (Larry - Ohio Time)
>   16. Re: Veterns Day (jgkrenton at comcast.net)
>   17. Re: Veterns Day (Christopher Kimball)
>   18. Pantera Article (Christopher Kimball)
>   19. Bart Bingaman? (DeTomaso Pantera)
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> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:20:14 -0600
> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> To: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
> Message-ID:
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> 
> What are the two little hoses for?
> 
> Jeff
> 6559
> 
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
> 
> >    Guys,
> >    As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business on the
> >    side. The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it is to
> >    strip a car.A  Keep in mind that the surface cools as it strips and the
> >    depth profile is very tunable.A  The aluminum front clip being stripped
> >    is from a bristol.
> >    Bristol Front Clip (Rear)  [1]http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
> >    Bristol Front Clip (Front) [2]http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
> >    A
> >    Rob DuMoulin
> >    904.476.8744
> >
> > References
> >
> >    1. http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
> >    2. http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
> >
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> -------------- next part --------------
>    What are the two little hoses for?A
>    Jeff
>    6559
> 
>    On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[1]rob at dumoulins.net>
>    wrote:
> 
>      A  A Guys,
>      A  A As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business
>      on the
>      A  A side. The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it
>      is to
>      A  A strip a car.AA  Keep in mind that the surface cools as it
>      strips and the
>      A  A depth profile is very tunable.AA  The aluminum front clip being
>      stripped
>      A  A is from a bristol.
>      A  A Bristol Front Clip (Rear)A  [1][2]http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
>      A  A Bristol Front Clip (Front) [2][3]http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
>      A  A A
>      A  A Rob DuMoulin
>      A  A 904.476.8744
>      References
>      A  A 1. [4]http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
>      A  A 2. [5]http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
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> References
> 
>    1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
>    2. http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
>    3. http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
>    4. http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
>    5. http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
>    6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>    7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:46:35 -0500
> From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> To: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
> Message-ID:
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> 
> The pressure I was blasting at was 80 PSI.  Much different than a pressure
> washer pressure.
> 
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
> rob at dumoulins.net
> www.kbsi.co
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> 
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > That looks great Rob. I bought a sandblaster kit for my 3000 PSI pressure
> > washer and it works nothing like that... I wish it did.
> >
> > Larry (all I have is rust) - Cleveland
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Rob
> > Dumoulin
> > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:01 PM
> > To: DeTomaso Mail List
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business on the side.
> > The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it is to strip a
> > car.  Keep in mind that the surface cools as it strips and the depth
> > profile is very tunable.  The aluminum front clip being stripped is from a
> > bristol.
> >
> >   Bristol Front Clip (Rear) http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc  Bristol Front
> > Clip
> > (Front) http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
> >
> >
> > Rob DuMoulin
> > 904.476.8744
> >
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
>    The pressure I was blasting at was 80 PSI.A  Much different than a
>    pressure washer pressure.
> 
>    Rob DuMoulin
>    904.476.8744
>    [1]rob at dumoulins.net
>    [2]www.kbsi.co
>    [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>    On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Larry - Ohio Time
>    <[4]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
> 
>      That looks great Rob. I bought a sandblaster kit for my 3000 PSI
>      pressure
>      washer and it works nothing like that... I wish it did.
>      Larry (all I have is rust) - Cleveland
> 
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: DeTomaso [mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Rob
>    Dumoulin
>    Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:01 PM
>    To: DeTomaso Mail List
>    Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
>    Guys,
>    As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business on the
>    side.
>    The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it is to strip a
>    car.A  Keep in mind that the surface cools as it strips and the depth
>    profile is very tunable.A  The aluminum front clip being stripped is
>    from a
>    bristol.
>    A  Bristol Front Clip (Rear) [6]http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDcA  Bristol
>    Front Clip
>    (Front) [7]http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
>    Rob DuMoulin
>    [8]904.476.8744
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
>    2. http://www.kbsi.co/
>    3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>    4. mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
>    5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>    6. http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
>    7. http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
>    8. tel:904.476.8744
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:48:53 -0500
> From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
> Message-ID:
> 	<CAEr4y_vmOdJSQwnaRMqCQJudiuM0anJWB3ED49rGktewO3BrEg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> The two small hoses are the pneumatic switch that turns on the blast at the
> unit.  The trigger on the hose that is in my hand is very cumbersome, but
> safe. There is no way you could accidentally start blasting and no way it
> stays on if you let go.  Problem is when you blast for a few minutes, the
> safety trigger can shut off if you relax your grip.  Better safe than sorry
> though.
> 
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
> rob at dumoulins.net
> www.kbsi.co
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> 
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > What are the two little hoses for?
> >
> > Jeff
> > 6559
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
> >
> >>    Guys,
> >>    As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business on the
> >>    side. The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it is to
> >>    strip a car.A  Keep in mind that the surface cools as it strips and the
> >>    depth profile is very tunable.A  The aluminum front clip being stripped
> >>    is from a bristol.
> >>    Bristol Front Clip (Rear)  [1]http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
> >>    Bristol Front Clip (Front) [2]http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
> >>    A
> >>    Rob DuMoulin
> >>    904.476.8744
> >>
> >> References
> >>
> >>    1. http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
> >>    2. http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> >>
> >>
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
>    The two small hoses are the pneumatic switch that turns on the blast at
>    the unit.A  The trigger on the hose that is in my hand is very
>    cumbersome, but safe. There is no way you could accidentally start
>    blasting and no way it stays on if you let go.A  Problem is when you
>    blast for a few minutes, the safety trigger can shut off if you relax
>    your grip.A  Better safe than sorry though.
> 
>    Rob DuMoulin
>    904.476.8744
>    [1]rob at dumoulins.net
>    [2]www.kbsi.co
>    [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>    On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Jeff Detrich <[4]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
>    wrote:
> 
>    What are the two little hoses for?A
>    Jeff
>    6559
> 
>    On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[5]rob at dumoulins.net>
>    wrote:
> 
>      A  A Guys,
>      A  A As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business
>      on the
>      A  A side. The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it
>      is to
>      A  A strip a car.AA  Keep in mind that the surface cools as it
>      strips and the
>      A  A depth profile is very tunable.AA  The aluminum front clip being
>      stripped
>      A  A is from a bristol.
>      A  A Bristol Front Clip (Rear)A  [1][6]http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
>      A  A Bristol Front Clip (Front) [2][7]http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
>      A  A A
>      A  A Rob DuMoulin
>      A  A [8]904.476.8744
>      References
>      A  A 1. [9]http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
>      A  A 2. [10]http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
>      _______________________________________________
>      Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>      DeTomaso mailing list
>      [11]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      [12]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
>    2. http://www.kbsi.co/
>    3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>    4. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
>    5. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
>    6. http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
>    7. http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
>    8. tel:904.476.8744
>    9. http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
>   10. http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
>   11. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   12. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:56:31 -0600
> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Wheel lug nut configuration
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> One of our local guys wants to get a modern space saver spare for his
> Pantera. What size wheel lug nut configuration pattern should he look for.
> I believe it's standard Ford but what size is that? (4 1/2" ???) And do
> they still use that size today? Can you get a larger diameter wheel like
> maybe a 16"?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jeff
> 6559
> -------------- next part --------------
>    One of our local guys wants to get a modern space saver spare for his
>    Pantera. What size wheel lug nut configuration patternA should he look
>    for. I believe it's standard Ford but what size is that? (4 1/2" ???)
>    And do they still use that size today? Can you get a larger diameter
>    wheel like maybe a 16"?
>    Thanks,
>    Jeff
>    6559
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:58:33 -0800
> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> To: "'Boyd Casey'" <boyd411 at gmail.com>,	"'Rob Dumoulin'"
> 	<rob at dumoulins.net>
> Cc: 'DeTomaso Mail List' <detomaso at poca.com>,	'Ken Green'
> 	<kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] HUGH BOYD CASEY
> Message-ID: <029a01cffd39$dad77430$90865c90$@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"
> 
> Very glad to hear it.  We'll see you in Texas!
> 
> Mike Thomas
> VP, POCA
> VP, Panteras Northwest
> Yellow ?74 #6328
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd Casey
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 3:05 PM
> To: Rob Dumoulin
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List; Ken Green
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] HUGH BOYD CASEY
> 
> Thanks for all the well wishers and prayers. I am happy to say I was released from the hospital today and this time I think is was for good! "We have met the enemy and he was one ugly SOB Now I am ready to get back to the work of getting my Cat re powered for  the spring! Thanks again for all the support.
> 
> Boyd
> 
> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
> 
> >    Thanks for the update Bob.
> >    Hugh is in our prayers
> >    Rob DuMoulin
> >    904.476.8744
> >    [1]rob at dumoulins.net
> >    On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 9:21 AM, robert via DeTomaso
> >    <[2]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> >
> >      A  A Hello Pantera Friends ,
> >      A  A I spoke with Hugh last night .
> >      A  A The hospital sent him home a few days after the operation which
> >      in most
> >      A  A cases is always too early .
> >      A  A A few days ago Hugh was in the emergency room and has been
> >      re-admitted
> >      A  A .
> >      A  A He is gaining his strength and I am sure that my friend and
> >      yours will
> >      A  A be home soon .
> >      A  A I will keep you posted as I hear from him.
> >      A  A Best,
> >      A  A Bob Levitt
> >      A  A In a message dated 11/7/2014 12:16:46 A.M. Eastern Standard
> >      Time,
> >      A  A [3]kenn_green at yahoo.com writes:
> >      A  A Any news?
> >      A  A Ken
> >      A  A From: robert via DeTomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
> >      A  A To: [5]detomaso at poca.com
> >      A  A Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:18 PM
> >      A  A Subject: [DeTomaso] HUGH BOYD CASEY
> >      A  A  A Dear Fellow Pantera Owners ,
> >      A  A  A My friend and yours, Hugh Boyd Casey has come thru surgery .
> >      I spoke
> >      A  A  A with him today and he was in pain, but that comes along with
> >      surgery.
> >      A  A  A He told me that the Surgery went well !
> >      A  A  A Now he must recuperate.
> >      A  A  A I told him to rest up and use the winter to come back strong
> >      for the
> >      A  A  A driving season in the spring here on the east coast .
> >      A  A  A He has the best team of Doctors here in New York.
> >      A  A  A We are a very tight group of special owners of a very
> >      special car . I
> >      A  A  A know that Hugh would love to hear from you all.
> >      A  A  A I will try and keep you informed as to how he is doing .
> >      A  A  A Best Regards,
> >      A  A  A Bob Levitt
> >      A  A  A Team Pantera of Long Island
> >      A  A  A President
> >      A  A  A [6]516-695-0854
> >      A  A _______________________________________________
> >      A  A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> >      References
> >      A  A 1. mailto:[9]DeTomaso at poca.com
> >      A  A 2. [10]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >      _______________________________________________
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> >
> > References
> >
> >    1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
> >    2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >    3. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
> >    4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >    5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >    6. tel:516-695-0854
> >    7. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >    8. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >    9. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >   10. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >   11. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >   12. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:08:28 -0800
> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> To: "'Rob Dumoulin'" <rob at dumoulins.net>,	"'DeTomaso Mail List'"
> 	<DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
> Message-ID: <02a101cffd3b$3dd5bff0$b9813fd0$@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"
> 
> Questions:
> 
> What about the environmental?  Looks like you're just letting the water and old paint runoff into the grass.  Shouldn't this be done in an area where the runoff can be captured for any hazmats?
> Does the paint need to be treated ahead of time with any kind of a softener beforehand?
> What about something like a unibody Pantera that has lots of areas to catch water where you may not want it or have trouble getting it out?  I suppose that's not too much of a problem if you are only stripping the exterior, but we all know how the Pantera loves water.
> 
> Mike Thomas
> VP, POCA
> VP, Panteras Northwest
> Yellow ?74 #6328
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Rob Dumoulin
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:01 AM
> To: DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
> 
> Guys,
> 
> As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business on the side.
> The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it is to strip a car.  Keep in mind that the surface cools as it strips and the depth profile is very tunable.  The aluminum front clip being stripped is from a bristol.
> 
>   Bristol Front Clip (Rear) http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc  Bristol Front Clip
> (Front) http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
> 
> 
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:20:58 -0500
> From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
> To: "'Rob Dumoulin'" <rob at dumoulins.net>
> Cc: 'DeTomaso Mail List' <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
> Message-ID: <D2A58C2859B145F896AE474DD5A9C03F at LarryHPPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi Rob,
>  
> How is it on rust with only 80 PSI?
>  
>  
>  
> Larry (under pressure) - Cleveland
>  
>   _____  
> 
> From: Rob Dumoulin [mailto:rob at dumoulins.net] 
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 4:47 PM
> To: Larry - Ohio Time
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
>  
> The pressure I was blasting at was 80 PSI.  Much different than a pressure
> washer pressure.
> 
> 
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
> rob at dumoulins.net
> www.kbsi.co
>  <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58>
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>  
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
> wrote:
> That looks great Rob. I bought a sandblaster kit for my 3000 PSI pressure
> washer and it works nothing like that... I wish it did.
> 
> Larry (all I have is rust) - Cleveland
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Rob Dumoulin
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:01 PM
> To: DeTomaso Mail List
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
> 
> Guys,
> 
> As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business on the side.
> The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it is to strip a
> car.  Keep in mind that the surface cools as it strips and the depth
> profile is very tunable.  The aluminum front clip being stripped is from a
> bristol.
> 
>   Bristol Front Clip (Rear) http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc  Bristol Front Clip
> (Front) http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
> 
> 
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
>  
> -------------- next part --------------
>    Hi Rob,
> 
> 
>    How is it on rust with only 80 PSI?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    Larry (under pressure) - Cleveland
> 
>    _______________________________________________________________________
> 
>    From: Rob Dumoulin [mailto:rob at dumoulins.net]
>    Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 4:47 PM
>    To: Larry - Ohio Time
>    Cc: DeTomaso Mail List
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
> 
> 
>    The pressure I was blasting at was 80 PSI.  Much different than a
>    pressure washer pressure.
> 
>    Rob DuMoulin
>    904.476.8744
>    [1]rob at dumoulins.net
> 
>    [2]www.kbsi.co
> 
>    [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> 
> 
>    On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Larry - Ohio Time
>    <[4]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
> 
>    That looks great Rob. I bought a sandblaster kit for my 3000 PSI
>    pressure
>    washer and it works nothing like that... I wish it did.
>    Larry (all I have is rust) - Cleveland
> 
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: DeTomaso [mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Rob
>    Dumoulin
>    Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:01 PM
>    To: DeTomaso Mail List
>    Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
>    Guys,
>    As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business on the
>    side.
>    The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it is to strip a
>    car.  Keep in mind that the surface cools as it strips and the depth
>    profile is very tunable.  The aluminum front clip being stripped is
>    from a
>    bristol.
>      Bristol Front Clip (Rear) [6]http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc  Bristol
>    Front Clip
>    (Front) [7]http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
>    Rob DuMoulin
>    [8]904.476.8744
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
>    2. http://www.kbsi.co/
>    3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>    4. mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
>    5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>    6. http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
>    7. http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
>    8. tel:904.476.8744
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:07:08 -0800
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
> Message-ID: <SNT146-W94B3980E69A21C6116B195BC810 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Hi all,
> I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine, and they published a one-pager on my Pantera.  It's a nice article, and they even put in a couple of pictures!
> What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun Rally.
> Sincerely,
> Chris 		 	   		  
> -------------- next part --------------
>    Hi all,
>    I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine, and they
>    published a one-pager on my Pantera.  It's a nice article, and they
>    even put in a couple of pictures!
>    What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun Rally.
>    Sincerely,
>    Chris
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:17:44 -0600
> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> To: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
> Message-ID:
> 	<CANX29aVOvTc6Ez6uYZtL2ZoCS=DLcTupSx4qEji4biKeoNrEOw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> can you send us a link
> 
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >    Hi all,
> >    I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine, and they
> >    published a one-pager on my Pantera.  It's a nice article, and they
> >    even put in a couple of pictures!
> >    What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun Rally.
> >    Sincerely,
> >    Chris
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >
> > DeTomaso mailing list
> > DeTomaso at poca.com
> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
>    can you send us a link
> 
>    On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher Kimball
>    <[1]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>      A  A Hi all,
>      A  A I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine,
>      and they
>      A  A published a one-pager on my Pantera.A  It's a nice article, and
>      they
>      A  A even put in a couple of pictures!
>      A  A What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun
>      Rally.
>      A  A Sincerely,
>      A  A Chris
>      _______________________________________________
>      Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>      DeTomaso mailing list
>      [2]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      [3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
>    2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>    3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:22:29 -0800
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
> Message-ID: <SNT146-W50735EF78324CDEA92AF9FBC810 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> They sent me two of the paper versions--I don't know if it is online somewhere...
> 
> From: jjdetrich at gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:17:44 -0600
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
> 
> can you send us a link
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
>    Hi all,
> 
>    I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine, and they
> 
>    published a one-pager on my Pantera.  It's a nice article, and they
> 
>    even put in a couple of pictures!
> 
>    What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun Rally.
> 
>    Sincerely,
> 
>    Chris
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> 
> 
> 
> DeTomaso mailing list
> 
> DeTomaso at poca.com
> 
> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> 
> 
>  		 	   		  
> -------------- next part --------------
>    They sent me two of the paper versions--I don't know if it is online
>    somewhere...
>      __________________________________________________________________
> 
>    From: jjdetrich at gmail.com
>    Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:17:44 -0600
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
>    To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
>    CC: detomaso at poca.com
>    can you send us a link
>    On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher Kimball
>    <[1]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>         Hi all,
>         I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine,
>      and they
>         published a one-pager on my Pantera.  It's a nice article, and
>      they
>         even put in a couple of pictures!
>         What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun
>      Rally.
>         Sincerely,
>         Chris
>      _______________________________________________
>      Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>      DeTomaso mailing list
>      [2]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      [3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
>    2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>    3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:24:45 -0500
> From: Tom Shinrock <tmshinro at aol.com>
> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com, detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
> Message-ID: <8D1CB762CCE2A93-2904-6791 at webmail-m233.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> 
>  Chris,
> 
> Can you scan and attach the article to a post?
> 
> Tom
> 5186
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Mon, Nov 10, 2014 7:22 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
> 
> 
>    They sent me two of the paper versions--I don't know if it is online
>    somewhere...
>      __________________________________________________________________
> 
>    From: jjdetrich at gmail.com
>    Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:17:44 -0600
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
>    To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
>    CC: detomaso at poca.com
>    can you send us a link
>    On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher Kimball
>    <[1]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>         Hi all,
>         I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine,
>      and they
>         published a one-pager on my Pantera.  It's a nice article, and
>      they
>         even put in a couple of pictures!
>         What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun
>      Rally.
>         Sincerely,
>         Chris
>      _______________________________________________
>      Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>      DeTomaso mailing list
>      [2]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      [3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
>    2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>    3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
>  
> _______________________________________________
> 
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> 
> DeTomaso mailing list
> DeTomaso at poca.com
> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
>  
> -------------- next part --------------
>    Chris,
>    Can you scan and attach the article to a post?
>    Tom
>    5186
> 
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
>    To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
>    Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
>    Sent: Mon, Nov 10, 2014 7:22 pm
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
>    They sent me two of the paper versions--I don't know if it is online
>    somewhere...
>      __________________________________________________________________
> 
>    From: [1]jjdetrich at gmail.com
>    Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:17:44 -0600
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
>    To: [2]chrisvkimball at msn.com
>    CC: [3]detomaso at poca.com
>    can you send us a link
>    On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher Kimball
>    <[1][4]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>         Hi all,
>         I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine,
>      and they
>         published a one-pager on my Pantera.  It's a nice article, and
>      they
>         even put in a couple of pictures!
>         What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun
>      Rally.
>         Sincerely,
>         Chris
>      _______________________________________________
>      Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>      DeTomaso mailing list
>      [2][5]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      [3][6]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> References
> 
>    1. [7]mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
>    2. [8]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>    3. [9]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> 
> DeTomaso mailing list
> [10]DeTomaso at poca.com
> [11]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
>    2. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
>    3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>    4. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
>    5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>    6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>    7. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com?
>    8. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com?
>    9. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:10:12 -0800
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: Tom Shinrock <tmshinro at aol.com>, Pantera list serve
> 	<detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
> Message-ID: <SNT146-W466F67800A3DF3A025EF1DBC810 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> I'll try, but I don't think attachments work with the forum email system.  When I get to the office tomorrow, I'll see if my staff can make it work!
> Sincerely,
> Chris
> 
> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
> From: tmshinro at aol.com
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:24:45 -0500
> 
> 
> 
>  Chris,
> 
> 
> 
> Can you scan and attach the article to a post?
> 
> 
> 
> Tom
> 
> 5186
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> 
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> 
> 
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> 
> 
> Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
> 
> 
> Sent: Mon, Nov 10, 2014 7:22 pm
> 
> 
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    They sent me two of the paper versions--I don't know if it is online
>    somewhere...
>      __________________________________________________________________
> 
>    From: jjdetrich at gmail.com
>    Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:17:44 -0600
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
>    To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
>    CC: detomaso at poca.com
>    can you send us a link
>    On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher Kimball
>    <[1]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>         Hi all,
>         I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine,
>      and they
>         published a one-pager on my Pantera.  It's a nice article, and
>      they
>         even put in a couple of pictures!
>         What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun
>      Rally.
>         Sincerely,
>         Chris
>      _______________________________________________
>      Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>      DeTomaso mailing list
>      [2]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      [3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
>    2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>    3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> 
> DeTomaso mailing list
> DeTomaso at poca.com
> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  		 	   		  
> -------------- next part --------------
>    I'll try, but I don't think attachments work with the forum email
>    system.  When I get to the office tomorrow, I'll see if my staff can
>    make it work!
>    Sincerely,
>    Chris
>      __________________________________________________________________
> 
>    To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; detomaso at poca.com
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
>    From: tmshinro at aol.com
>    Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:24:45 -0500
>    Chris,
>    Can you scan and attach the article to a post?
>    Tom
>    5186
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
>    To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
>    Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
>    Sent: Mon, Nov 10, 2014 7:22 pm
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
>    They sent me two of the paper versions--I don't know if it is online
>    somewhere...
>      __________________________________________________________________
> 
>    From: [1]jjdetrich at gmail.com
>    Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:17:44 -0600
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
>    To: [2]chrisvkimball at msn.com
>    CC: [3]detomaso at poca.com
>    can you send us a link
>    On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher Kimball
>    <[1][4]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>         Hi all,
>         I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine,
>      and they
>         published a one-pager on my Pantera.  It's a nice article, and
>      they
>         even put in a couple of pictures!
>         What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun
>      Rally.
>         Sincerely,
>         Chris
>      _______________________________________________
>      Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>      DeTomaso mailing list
>      [2][5]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      [3][6]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> References
> 
>    1. [7]mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
>    2. [8]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>    3. [9]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> 
> DeTomaso mailing list
> [10]DeTomaso at poca.com
> [11]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
>    2. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
>    3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>    4. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
>    5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>    6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>    7. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com?
>    8. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com?
>    9. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:09:19 -0800
> From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Pantera article
> Message-ID:
> 	<1415689759.29365.YahooMailNeo at web125005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> While searching for Chris' article on the Hagerty website I found an article from 2010 by Adams Hudson (regular contributor to the PI Board).
> http://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2010/12/09/Pantera-Ripe-for-picking-up-not-picking-on
> 
> 
> Look forward to a scanned copy of your article Chris.
> 
> Cheers!
> Garth
> -------------- next part --------------
>    While searching for Chris' article on the Hagerty website I found an
>    article from 2010 by Adams Hudson (regular contributor to the PI
>    Board).
>    [1]http://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2010/12/09/Pantera-R
>    ipe-for-picking-up-not-picking-on
>    Look forward to a scanned copy of your article Chris.
>    Cheers!
>    Garth
> 
> References
> 
>    1. http://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2010/12/09/Pantera-Ripe-for-picking-up-not-picking-on
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 00:32:30 -0800
> From: "Tomas Gunnarsson" <guson at home.se>
> To: <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wheel lug nut configuration
> Message-ID: <10AC7E1DA8604B709A6CC82A4A126B0C at mail2world.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Jeff,
>  
> Wheels with 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern are plentiful in all common
> diameters. What you need to pay attention to is A: center hole size and
> B: caliper clearance. My car uses stock brakes and I have a 115/70-15
> (IIRC) tire on a 15x4.5" steel rim.
>  
> Tomas
> 
> <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
> 
>  	  	 From: Jeff Detrich [jjdetrich at gmail.com]
> Sent: 10/11/2014 11:56:31 PM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Wheel lug nut configuration 
> 
> One of our local guys wants to get a modern space saver spare for his 
> Pantera. What size wheel lug nut configuration pattern should he look
> for. 
> I believe it's standard Ford but what size is that? (4 1/2" ???) And do 
> they still use that size today? Can you get a larger diameter wheel like
> maybe a 16"? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Jeff 
> 6559 
> 	
> -------------- next part --------------
>    Jeff,
> 
> 
> 
>    Wheels with 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern are plentiful in all
>    common diameters. What you need to pay attention to is A: center hole
>    size and B: caliper clearance. My car uses stock brakes and I have a
>    115/70-15 (IIRC) tire on a 15x4.5" steel rim.
> 
> 
> 
>    Tomas
>    <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
> 
>        From: Jeff Detrich [jjdetrich at gmail.com]
>    Sent: 10/11/2014 11:56:31 PM
>    To: detomaso at poca.com
>    Subject: [DeTomaso] Wheel lug nut configuration
>    One of our local guys wants to get a modern space saver spare for his
>    Pantera. What size wheel lug nut configuration pattern should he look
>    for.
>    I believe it's standard Ford but what size is that? (4 1/2" ???) And do
>    they still use that size today? Can you get a larger diameter wheel
>    like
>    maybe a 16"?
>    Thanks,
>    Jeff
>    6559
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:38:09 -0500
> From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
> To: "'DeTomaso Mail List'" <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Veterns Day
> Message-ID: <3186EF4162F948088369FF053B4ED9A6 at LarryHPPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Today I would like to do a different Veterans salute, then my normal.
>  
> It's still the eleventh month, eleventh day and eleventh hour of Armistice
> Day.
>  
> Today on this day I would like you all to remember and think about one of
> our Pantera Brothers we lost this year. Chuck Adkinson from Columbus, Ohio.
> Chuck and I became good friends from this list. It must be around 15 years
> or so. He took on a rust bucket Pantera, like me, and did 90% of all the
> work himself. Kirk and I would lend a hand and advice when needed but Chuck
> did it. He did it all from teaching himself to weld, stripping every nut and
> bolt off of it, to working on cars in general. He was always a bike guy. He
> did some flat track racing in his younger years. Must have had 4 or 5 bikes
> the last time I was down there.
>  
> Chuck served our country in Vet Nam, 9th Cavalry, enlisted December 14,
> 1967, flying Hueys then later Cobras. He continued his service after the war
> in the Ohio Army National Guard. The first time I went to his old house I
> past a VFW hall with a Huey on it roof. I asked him how did they get it up
> on the roof, "Simple I just landed it there". His love of flying was strong
> as he became a corporate jet pilot for the local utility. We would often
> talk/email back and forth when he was stuck in some airport in no man land
> USA. After his 59th birthday, (I think they retire you from flying at 60 in
> the service) he got called in service once again, going to Iraq. Even though
> flying helicopters for 40 some years the Army liked his corporate jet
> experience. They place him into a small business type turbo-jet plane, to
> ferry people and supplies to needed locations. I asked him what type of
> armament the plane had. "Flairs". Should his systems show that he is being
> tracked by radar he would deploy flairs to trick any missiles that may be on
> there way. I asked him how he likes shooting off flairs compared to rockets.
> "Oh, its fine till you run out of flairs".
>  
> A few years ago he retired from work, sold his beautiful home, shop and
> Pantera 2113 (something he regretted) to move to Tennessee on a small farm.
> He and his wife Sue have a love of animals and needed more then 5 acres. His
> plan was to build a new shop and make his dream car, '32 Ford, 5 window hot
> rod. He had a poster of the American Graffiti car on the wall. Chuck likes
> to work on a project maybe more then finishing. Journey and destination
> thing.
>  
> Unfortunately the plans of man do not outweigh the plans of God. Chuck was
> diagnosed with brain cancer one week after selling everything. He fought a
> battle like never before against an enemy like never before. After two years
> he lost that battle this summer at age 66. He was berried in Arlington
> National Cemetery this fall.
>  
> Reading many of his emails today over many years, the 9/11 email talked
> about enemies know and unknown. Truer then we can understand.
>  
> I am living with the regrets that all friends do, should have stopped down
> more often, should have made it to the motorcycle hill climb we talked about
> every year, should have, should have, should have. Please learn form my
> mistakes.
>  
> He would tell me "I was shot up, but never shot down". How true that was in
> so many ways.
>  
> So today please remember the people that serve your country, no mater where
> it is, and think well of our friend Chuck (Apache 34). God Bless you my
> friend.
>  
>  
> Larry (Cleveland) Homolak
>  
> -------------- next part --------------
>    Today I would like to do a different Veterans salute, then my normal.
> 
> 
>    It's still the eleventh month, eleventh day and eleventh hour of
>    Armistice Day.
> 
> 
>    Today on this day I would like you all to remember and think about one
>    of our Pantera Brothers we lost this year. Chuck Adkinson from
>    Columbus, Ohio. Chuck and I became good friends from this list. It must
>    be around 15 years or so. He took on a rust bucket Pantera, like me,
>    and did 90% of all the work himself. Kirk and I would lend a hand and
>    advice when needed but Chuck did it. He did it all from teaching
>    himself to weld, stripping every nut and bolt off of it, to working on
>    cars in general. He was always a bike guy. He did some flat track
>    racing in his younger years. Must have had 4 or 5 bikes the last time I
>    was down there.
> 
> 
>    Chuck served our country in Vet Nam, 9^th Cavalry, enlisted December
>    14, 1967, flying Hueys then later Cobras. He continued his service
>    after the war in the Ohio Army National Guard. The first time I went to
>    his old house I past a VFW hall with a Huey on it roof. I asked him how
>    did they get it up on the roof, "Simple I just landed it there". His
>    love of flying was strong as he became a corporate jet pilot for the
>    local utility. We would often talk/email back and forth when he was
>    stuck in some airport in no man land USA. After his 59^th birthday, (I
>    think they retire you from flying at 60 in the service) he got called
>    in service once again, going to Iraq. Even though flying helicopters
>    for 40 some years the Army liked his corporate jet experience. They
>    place him into a small business type turbo-jet plane, to ferry people
>    and supplies to needed locations. I asked him what type of armament the
>    plane had. "Flairs"... Should his systems show that he is being tracked
>    by radar he would deploy flairs to trick any missiles that may be on
>    there way. I asked him how he likes shooting off flairs compared to
>    rockets. "Oh, its fine till you run out of flairs".
> 
> 
>    A few years ago he retired from work, sold his beautiful home, shop and
>    Pantera 2113 (something he regretted) to move to Tennessee on a small
>    farm. He and his wife Sue have a love of animals and needed more then 5
>    acres. His plan was to build a new shop and make his dream car, '32
>    Ford, 5 window hot rod. He had a poster of the American Graffiti car on
>    the wall. Chuck likes to work on a project maybe more then finishing.
>    Journey and destination thing...
> 
> 
>    Unfortunately the plans of man do not outweigh the plans of God. Chuck
>    was diagnosed with brain cancer one week after selling everything. He
>    fought a battle like never before against an enemy like never before.
>    After two years he lost that battle this summer at age 66. He was
>    berried in Arlington National Cemetery this fall.
> 
> 
>    Reading many of his emails today over many years, the 9/11 email talked
>    about enemies know and unknown. Truer then we can understand.
> 
> 
>    I am living with the regrets that all friends do, should have stopped
>    down more often, should have made it to the motorcycle hill climb we
>    talked about every year, should have, should have, should have...
>    Please learn form my mistakes.
> 
> 
>    He would tell me "I was shot up, but never shot down". How true that
>    was in so many ways.
> 
> 
>    So today please remember the people that serve your country, no mater
>    where it is, and think well of our friend Chuck (Apache 34). God Bless
>    you my friend.
> 
> 
> 
>    Larry (Cleveland) Homolak
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:47:50 +0000 (UTC)
> From: jgkrenton at comcast.net
> To: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Veterns Day
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Amen! 
> 
> Jeff/2467 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> 
> To: "DeTomaso Mail List" <DeTomaso at poca.com> 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:38:09 AM 
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Veterns Day 
> 
> Today I would like to do a different Veterans salute, then my normal. 
> 
> It's still the eleventh month, eleventh day and eleventh hour of Armistice 
> Day. 
> 
> Today on this day I would like you all to remember and think about one of 
> our Pantera Brothers we lost this year. Chuck Adkinson from Columbus, Ohio. 
> Chuck and I became good friends from this list. It must be around 15 years 
> or so. He took on a rust bucket Pantera, like me, and did 90% of all the 
> work himself. Kirk and I would lend a hand and advice when needed but Chuck 
> did it. He did it all from teaching himself to weld, stripping every nut and 
> bolt off of it, to working on cars in general. He was always a bike guy. He 
> did some flat track racing in his younger years. Must have had 4 or 5 bikes 
> the last time I was down there. 
> 
> Chuck served our country in Vet Nam, 9th Cavalry, enlisted December 14, 
> 1967, flying Hueys then later Cobras. He continued his service after the war 
> in the Ohio Army National Guard. The first time I went to his old house I 
> past a VFW hall with a Huey on it roof. I asked him how did they get it up 
> on the roof, "Simple I just landed it there". His love of flying was strong 
> as he became a corporate jet pilot for the local utility. We would often 
> talk/email back and forth when he was stuck in some airport in no man land 
> USA. After his 59th birthday, (I think they retire you from flying at 60 in 
> the service) he got called in service once again, going to Iraq. Even though 
> flying helicopters for 40 some years the Army liked his corporate jet 
> experience. They place him into a small business type turbo-jet plane, to 
> ferry people and supplies to needed locations. I asked him what type of 
> armament the plane had. "Flairs". Should his systems show that he is being 
> tracked by radar he would deploy flairs to trick any missiles that may be on 
> there way. I asked him how he likes shooting off flairs compared to rockets. 
> "Oh, its fine till you run out of flairs". 
> 
> A few years ago he retired from work, sold his beautiful home, shop and 
> Pantera 2113 (something he regretted) to move to Tennessee on a small farm. 
> He and his wife Sue have a love of animals and needed more then 5 acres. His 
> plan was to build a new shop and make his dream car, '32 Ford, 5 window hot 
> rod. He had a poster of the American Graffiti car on the wall. Chuck likes 
> to work on a project maybe more then finishing. Journey and destination 
> thing. 
> 
> Unfortunately the plans of man do not outweigh the plans of God. Chuck was 
> diagnosed with brain cancer one week after selling everything. He fought a 
> battle like never before against an enemy like never before. After two years 
> he lost that battle this summer at age 66. He was berried in Arlington 
> National Cemetery this fall. 
> 
> Reading many of his emails today over many years, the 9/11 email talked 
> about enemies know and unknown. Truer then we can understand. 
> 
> I am living with the regrets that all friends do, should have stopped down 
> more often, should have made it to the motorcycle hill climb we talked about 
> every year, should have, should have, should have. Please learn form my 
> mistakes. 
> 
> He would tell me "I was shot up, but never shot down". How true that was in 
> so many ways. 
> 
> So today please remember the people that serve your country, no mater where 
> it is, and think well of our friend Chuck (Apache 34). God Bless you my 
> friend. 
> 
> 
> Larry (Cleveland) Homolak 
> 
> 
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> 
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>    Amen!
>    Jeff/2467
>      __________________________________________________________________
> 
>    From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
>    To: "DeTomaso Mail List" <DeTomaso at poca.com>
>    Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:38:09 AM
>    Subject: [DeTomaso] Veterns Day
>    Today I would like to do a different Veterans salute, then my normal.
> 
>    It's still the eleventh month, eleventh day and eleventh hour of
>    Armistice
>    Day.
> 
>    Today on this day I would like you all to remember and think about one
>    of
>    our Pantera Brothers we lost this year. Chuck Adkinson from Columbus,
>    Ohio.
>    Chuck and I became good friends from this list. It must be around 15
>    years
>    or so. He took on a rust bucket Pantera, like me, and did 90% of all
>    the
>    work himself. Kirk and I would lend a hand and advice when needed but
>    Chuck
>    did it. He did it all from teaching himself to weld, stripping every
>    nut and
>    bolt off of it, to working on cars in general. He was always a bike
>    guy. He
>    did some flat track racing in his younger years. Must have had 4 or 5
>    bikes
>    the last time I was down there.
> 
>    Chuck served our country in Vet Nam, 9th Cavalry, enlisted December 14,
>    1967, flying Hueys then later Cobras. He continued his service after
>    the war
>    in the Ohio Army National Guard. The first time I went to his old house
>    I
>    past a VFW hall with a Huey on it roof. I asked him how did they get it
>    up
>    on the roof, "Simple I just landed it there". His love of flying was
>    strong
>    as he became a corporate jet pilot for the local utility. We would
>    often
>    talk/email back and forth when he was stuck in some airport in no man
>    land
>    USA. After his 59th birthday, (I think they retire you from flying at
>    60 in
>    the service) he got called in service once again, going to Iraq. Even
>    though
>    flying helicopters for 40 some years the Army liked his corporate jet
>    experience. They place him into a small business type turbo-jet plane,
>    to
>    ferry people and supplies to needed locations. I asked him what type of
>    armament the plane had. "Flairs". Should his systems show that he is
>    being
>    tracked by radar he would deploy flairs to trick any missiles that may
>    be on
>    there way. I asked him how he likes shooting off flairs compared to
>    rockets.
>    "Oh, its fine till you run out of flairs".
> 
>    A few years ago he retired from work, sold his beautiful home, shop and
>    Pantera 2113 (something he regretted) to move to Tennessee on a small
>    farm.
>    He and his wife Sue have a love of animals and needed more then 5
>    acres. His
>    plan was to build a new shop and make his dream car, '32 Ford, 5 window
>    hot
>    rod. He had a poster of the American Graffiti car on the wall. Chuck
>    likes
>    to work on a project maybe more then finishing. Journey and destination
>    thing.
> 
>    Unfortunately the plans of man do not outweigh the plans of God. Chuck
>    was
>    diagnosed with brain cancer one week after selling everything. He
>    fought a
>    battle like never before against an enemy like never before. After two
>    years
>    he lost that battle this summer at age 66. He was berried in Arlington
>    National Cemetery this fall.
> 
>    Reading many of his emails today over many years, the 9/11 email talked
>    about enemies know and unknown. Truer then we can understand.
> 
>    I am living with the regrets that all friends do, should have stopped
>    down
>    more often, should have made it to the motorcycle hill climb we talked
>    about
>    every year, should have, should have, should have. Please learn form my
>    mistakes.
> 
>    He would tell me "I was shot up, but never shot down". How true that
>    was in
>    so many ways.
> 
>    So today please remember the people that serve your country, no mater
>    where
>    it is, and think well of our friend Chuck (Apache 34). God Bless you my
>    friend.
> 
> 
>    Larry (Cleveland) Homolak
> 
>    _______________________________________________
>    Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>    DeTomaso mailing list
>    DeTomaso at poca.com
>    http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:37:42 -0800
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: Larry - Ohio Time <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>, Pantera list serve
> 	<detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Veterns Day
> Message-ID: <SNT146-W936A82E43C9D5F25B40653BC810 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Great email!
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
> From: Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
> To: DeTomaso at poca.com
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:38:09 -0500
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Veterns Day
> 
> Today I would like to do a different Veterans salute, then my normal.
>  
> It's still the eleventh month, eleventh day and eleventh hour of Armistice
> Day.
>  
> Today on this day I would like you all to remember and think about one of
> our Pantera Brothers we lost this year. Chuck Adkinson from Columbus, Ohio.
> Chuck and I became good friends from this list. It must be around 15 years
> or so. He took on a rust bucket Pantera, like me, and did 90% of all the
> work himself. Kirk and I would lend a hand and advice when needed but Chuck
> did it. He did it all from teaching himself to weld, stripping every nut and
> bolt off of it, to working on cars in general. He was always a bike guy. He
> did some flat track racing in his younger years. Must have had 4 or 5 bikes
> the last time I was down there.
>  
> Chuck served our country in Vet Nam, 9th Cavalry, enlisted December 14,
> 1967, flying Hueys then later Cobras. He continued his service after the war
> in the Ohio Army National Guard. The first time I went to his old house I
> past a VFW hall with a Huey on it roof. I asked him how did they get it up
> on the roof, "Simple I just landed it there". His love of flying was strong
> as he became a corporate jet pilot for the local utility. We would often
> talk/email back and forth when he was stuck in some airport in no man land
> USA. After his 59th birthday, (I think they retire you from flying at 60 in
> the service) he got called in service once again, going to Iraq. Even though
> flying helicopters for 40 some years the Army liked his corporate jet
> experience. They place him into a small business type turbo-jet plane, to
> ferry people and supplies to needed locations. I asked him what type of
> armament the plane had. "Flairs". Should his systems show that he is being
> tracked by radar he would deploy flairs to trick any missiles that may be on
> there way. I asked him how he likes shooting off flairs compared to rockets.
> "Oh, its fine till you run out of flairs".
>  
> A few years ago he retired from work, sold his beautiful home, shop and
> Pantera 2113 (something he regretted) to move to Tennessee on a small farm.
> He and his wife Sue have a love of animals and needed more then 5 acres. His
> plan was to build a new shop and make his dream car, '32 Ford, 5 window hot
> rod. He had a poster of the American Graffiti car on the wall. Chuck likes
> to work on a project maybe more then finishing. Journey and destination
> thing.
>  
> Unfortunately the plans of man do not outweigh the plans of God. Chuck was
> diagnosed with brain cancer one week after selling everything. He fought a
> battle like never before against an enemy like never before. After two years
> he lost that battle this summer at age 66. He was berried in Arlington
> National Cemetery this fall.
>  
> Reading many of his emails today over many years, the 9/11 email talked
> about enemies know and unknown. Truer then we can understand.
>  
> I am living with the regrets that all friends do, should have stopped down
> more often, should have made it to the motorcycle hill climb we talked about
> every year, should have, should have, should have. Please learn form my
> mistakes.
>  
> He would tell me "I was shot up, but never shot down". How true that was in
> so many ways.
>  
> So today please remember the people that serve your country, no mater where
> it is, and think well of our friend Chuck (Apache 34). God Bless you my
> friend.
>  
>  
> Larry (Cleveland) Homolak
>  
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> 
> DeTomaso mailing list
> DeTomaso at poca.com
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>    Great email!
>    Thanks,
>    Chris
>    From: Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
>    To: DeTomaso at poca.com
>    Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:38:09 -0500
>    Subject: [DeTomaso] Veterns Day
> Today I would like to do a different Veterans salute, then my normal.
> 
> It's still the eleventh month, eleventh day and eleventh hour of Armistice
> Day.
> 
> Today on this day I would like you all to remember and think about one of
> our Pantera Brothers we lost this year. Chuck Adkinson from Columbus, Ohio.
> Chuck and I became good friends from this list. It must be around 15 years
> or so. He took on a rust bucket Pantera, like me, and did 90% of all the
> work himself. Kirk and I would lend a hand and advice when needed but Chuck
> did it. He did it all from teaching himself to weld, stripping every nut and
> bolt off of it, to working on cars in general. He was always a bike guy. He
> did some flat track racing in his younger years. Must have had 4 or 5 bikes
> the last time I was down there.
> 
> Chuck served our country in Vet Nam, 9th Cavalry, enlisted December 14,
> 1967, flying Hueys then later Cobras. He continued his service after the war
> in the Ohio Army National Guard. The first time I went to his old house I
> past a VFW hall with a Huey on it roof. I asked him how did they get it up
> on the roof, "Simple I just landed it there". His love of flying was strong
> as he became a corporate jet pilot for the local utility. We would often
> talk/email back and forth when he was stuck in some airport in no man land
> USA. After his 59th birthday, (I think they retire you from flying at 60 in
> the service) he got called in service once again, going to Iraq. Even though
> flying helicopters for 40 some years the Army liked his corporate jet
> experience. They place him into a small business type turbo-jet plane, to
> ferry people and supplies to needed locations. I asked him what type of
> armament the plane had. "Flairs". Should his systems show that he is being
> tracked by radar he would deploy flairs to trick any missiles that may be on
> there way. I asked him how he likes shooting off flairs compared to rockets.
> "Oh, its fine till you run out of flairs".
> 
> A few years ago he retired from work, sold his beautiful home, shop and
> Pantera 2113 (something he regretted) to move to Tennessee on a small farm.
> He and his wife Sue have a love of animals and needed more then 5 acres. His
> plan was to build a new shop and make his dream car, '32 Ford, 5 window hot
> rod. He had a poster of the American Graffiti car on the wall. Chuck likes
> to work on a project maybe more then finishing. Journey and destination
> thing.
> 
> Unfortunately the plans of man do not outweigh the plans of God. Chuck was
> diagnosed with brain cancer one week after selling everything. He fought a
> battle like never before against an enemy like never before. After two years
> he lost that battle this summer at age 66. He was berried in Arlington
> National Cemetery this fall.
> 
> Reading many of his emails today over many years, the 9/11 email talked
> about enemies know and unknown. Truer then we can understand.
> 
> I am living with the regrets that all friends do, should have stopped down
> more often, should have made it to the motorcycle hill climb we talked about
> every year, should have, should have, should have. Please learn form my
> mistakes.
> 
> He would tell me "I was shot up, but never shot down". How true that was in
> so many ways.
> 
> So today please remember the people that serve your country, no mater where
> it is, and think well of our friend Chuck (Apache 34). God Bless you my
> friend.
> 
> 
> Larry (Cleveland) Homolak
> 
> 
>    _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum Managed
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:42:02 -0800
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera Article
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> 
> I'm not sure if this attachment will work, but here is the article (attached).
> 
> It's actually an abbreviated version of what they published on line a while ago:
> http://www.hagerty.com/yourstories/2014/02/20/It39s-not-a-toy-it39s-an-investment20140220123747
> Sincerely,
> Chris
> 
> 
>  		 	   		  
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>    I'm not sure if this attachment will work, but here is the article
>    (attached).
>    It's actually an abbreviated version of what they published on line a
>    while ago:
>    [1]http://www.hagerty.com/yourstories/2014/02/20/It39s-not-a-toy-it39s-
>    an-investment20140220123747
>    Sincerely,
>    Chris
> 
> References
> 
>    1. http://www.hagerty.com/yourstories/2014/02/20/It39s-not-a-toy-it39s-an-investment20140220123747
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> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:54:38 -0500
> From: DeTomaso Pantera <tampapantera at gmail.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Bart Bingaman?
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Does anyone know Bart and his 73 Pantera? Here is a video of him and his
> Pantera: http://vimeo.com/108968641 . When I first saw his car, I thought I
> was looking at #2428's "doppleganger" (except Bart's P-car) has the
> mandated 5 mph bumper in front of his '73.  Does anyone know what size
> tires he is running? Thanks. Cal #2428.
> -------------- next part --------------
>    Does anyone know Bart and his 73 Pantera? Here is a video of him and
>    his Pantera:A [1]http://vimeo.com/108968641 . When I first saw his car,
>    I thought I was looking at #2428's "doppleganger" (except Bart's P-car)
>    has the mandated 5 mph bumper in front of his '73.A  Does anyone know
>    what size tires he is running? Thanks. Cal #2428.A
> 
> References
> 
>    1. http://vimeo.com/108968641
> 
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   Rob - is there a website of guys that offer this wet blasting around
   the country - would like to look into this - I
   am in the DC area.
   Trip

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   > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:00:01 -0700
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   > Today's Topics:
   >
   > 1. Re: NPC. Wet blaster video (Jeff Detrich)
   > 2. Re: NPC. Wet blaster video (Rob Dumoulin)
   > 3. Re: NPC. Wet blaster video (Rob Dumoulin)
   > 4. Wheel lug nut configuration (Jeff Detrich)
   > 5. Re: HUGH BOYD CASEY (Mike Thomas)
   > 6. Re: NPC. Wet blaster video (Mike Thomas)
   > 7. Re: NPC. Wet blaster video (Larry - Ohio Time)
   > 8. Pandora's 15 minutes of fame (Christopher Kimball)
   > 9. Re: Pandora's 15 minutes of fame (Jeff Detrich)
   > 10. Re: Pandora's 15 minutes of fame (Christopher Kimball)
   > 11. Re: Pandora's 15 minutes of fame (Tom Shinrock)
   > 12. Re: Pandora's 15 minutes of fame (Christopher Kimball)
   > 13. Hagerty Pantera article (Garth Rodericks)
   > 14. Re: Wheel lug nut configuration (Tomas Gunnarsson)
   > 15. Veterns Day (Larry - Ohio Time)
   > 16. Re: Veterns Day (jgkrenton at comcast.net)
   > 17. Re: Veterns Day (Christopher Kimball)
   > 18. Pantera Article (Christopher Kimball)
   > 19. Bart Bingaman? (DeTomaso Pantera)
   >
   >
   >
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 1
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:20:14 -0600
   > From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   > To: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
   > Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
   > Message-ID:
   > <CANX29aUy3x-CejVV5bro96MBOiF33E-_UaSXgdJqG21oa5qFCg at mail.gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > What are the two little hoses for?
   >
   > Jeff
   > 6559
   >
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
   wrote:
   >
   > > Guys,
   > > As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business on
   the
   > > side. The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it is
   to
   > > strip a car.A Keep in mind that the surface cools as it strips and
   the
   > > depth profile is very tunable.A The aluminum front clip being
   stripped
   > > is from a bristol.
   > > Bristol Front Clip (Rear) [1]http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
   > > Bristol Front Clip (Front) [2]http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   > > A
   > > Rob DuMoulin
   > > 904.476.8744
   > >
   > > References
   > >
   > > 1. http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
   > > 2. http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   > >
   > > _______________________________________________
   > >
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   > >
   > >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > What are the two little hoses for?A
   > Jeff
   > 6559
   >
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[1]rob at dumoulins.net>
   > wrote:
   >
   > A A Guys,
   > A A As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business
   > on the
   > A A side. The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it
   > is to
   > A A strip a car.AA Keep in mind that the surface cools as it
   > strips and the
   > A A depth profile is very tunable.AA The aluminum front clip being
   > stripped
   > A A is from a bristol.
   > A A Bristol Front Clip (Rear)A [1][2]http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
   > A A Bristol Front Clip (Front) [2][3]http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   > A A A
   > A A Rob DuMoulin
   > A A 904.476.8744
   > References
   > A A 1. [4]http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
   > A A 2. [5]http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
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   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
   > 2. http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
   > 3. http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   > 4. http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
   > 5. http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   > 6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 2
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:46:35 -0500
   > From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
   > To: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
   > Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
   > Message-ID:
   > <CAEr4y_ta32vWZZQ0=2jnTwg-rxq4f-=x87rSHiCX5NrLs_dceQ at mail.gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > The pressure I was blasting at was 80 PSI. Much different than a
   pressure
   > washer pressure.
   >
   > Rob DuMoulin
   > 904.476.8744
   > rob at dumoulins.net
   > www.kbsi.co
   > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
   >
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Larry - Ohio Time
   <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
   > wrote:
   >
   > > That looks great Rob. I bought a sandblaster kit for my 3000 PSI
   pressure
   > > washer and it works nothing like that... I wish it did.
   > >
   > > Larry (all I have is rust) - Cleveland
   > >
   > >
   > > -----Original Message-----
   > > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Rob
   > > Dumoulin
   > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:01 PM
   > > To: DeTomaso Mail List
   > > Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
   > >
   > > Guys,
   > >
   > > As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business on
   the side.
   > > The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it is to
   strip a
   > > car. Keep in mind that the surface cools as it strips and the depth
   > > profile is very tunable. The aluminum front clip being stripped is
   from a
   > > bristol.
   > >
   > > Bristol Front Clip (Rear) http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc Bristol Front
   > > Clip
   > > (Front) http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   > >
   > >
   > > Rob DuMoulin
   > > 904.476.8744
   > >
   > >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > The pressure I was blasting at was 80 PSI.A Much different than a
   > pressure washer pressure.
   >
   > Rob DuMoulin
   > 904.476.8744
   > [1]rob at dumoulins.net
   > [2]www.kbsi.co
   > [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Larry - Ohio Time
   > <[4]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
   >
   > That looks great Rob. I bought a sandblaster kit for my 3000 PSI
   > pressure
   > washer and it works nothing like that... I wish it did.
   > Larry (all I have is rust) - Cleveland
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Rob
   > Dumoulin
   > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:01 PM
   > To: DeTomaso Mail List
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
   > Guys,
   > As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business on the
   > side.
   > The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it is to strip
   a
   > car.A Keep in mind that the surface cools as it strips and the depth
   > profile is very tunable.A The aluminum front clip being stripped is
   > from a
   > bristol.
   > A Bristol Front Clip (Rear) [6]http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDcA Bristol
   > Front Clip
   > (Front) [7]http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   > Rob DuMoulin
   > [8]904.476.8744
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
   > 2. http://www.kbsi.co/
   > 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
   > 4. mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
   > 5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
   > 6. http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
   > 7. http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   > 8. tel:904.476.8744
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 3
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:48:53 -0500
   > From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
   > To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   > Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
   > Message-ID:
   > <CAEr4y_vmOdJSQwnaRMqCQJudiuM0anJWB3ED49rGktewO3BrEg at mail.gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > The two small hoses are the pneumatic switch that turns on the blast
   at the
   > unit. The trigger on the hose that is in my hand is very cumbersome,
   but
   > safe. There is no way you could accidentally start blasting and no
   way it
   > stays on if you let go. Problem is when you blast for a few minutes,
   the
   > safety trigger can shut off if you relax your grip. Better safe than
   sorry
   > though.
   >
   > Rob DuMoulin
   > 904.476.8744
   > rob at dumoulins.net
   > www.kbsi.co
   > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
   >
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > > What are the two little hoses for?
   > >
   > > Jeff
   > > 6559
   > >
   > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
   wrote:
   > >
   > >> Guys,
   > >> As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business on
   the
   > >> side. The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it is
   to
   > >> strip a car.A Keep in mind that the surface cools as it strips and
   the
   > >> depth profile is very tunable.A The aluminum front clip being
   stripped
   > >> is from a bristol.
   > >> Bristol Front Clip (Rear) [1]http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
   > >> Bristol Front Clip (Front) [2]http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   > >> A
   > >> Rob DuMoulin
   > >> 904.476.8744
   > >>
   > >> References
   > >>
   > >> 1. http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
   > >> 2. http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   > >>
   > >> _______________________________________________
   > >>
   > >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > >>
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   > >> DeTomaso at poca.com
   > >> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >>
   > >>
   > >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > The two small hoses are the pneumatic switch that turns on the blast
   at
   > the unit.A The trigger on the hose that is in my hand is very
   > cumbersome, but safe. There is no way you could accidentally start
   > blasting and no way it stays on if you let go.A Problem is when you
   > blast for a few minutes, the safety trigger can shut off if you relax
   > your grip.A Better safe than sorry though.
   >
   > Rob DuMoulin
   > 904.476.8744
   > [1]rob at dumoulins.net
   > [2]www.kbsi.co
   > [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Jeff Detrich
   <[4]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   > wrote:
   >
   > What are the two little hoses for?A
   > Jeff
   > 6559
   >
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[5]rob at dumoulins.net>
   > wrote:
   >
   > A A Guys,
   > A A As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business
   > on the
   > A A side. The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it
   > is to
   > A A strip a car.AA Keep in mind that the surface cools as it
   > strips and the
   > A A depth profile is very tunable.AA The aluminum front clip being
   > stripped
   > A A is from a bristol.
   > A A Bristol Front Clip (Rear)A [1][6]http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
   > A A Bristol Front Clip (Front) [2][7]http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   > A A A
   > A A Rob DuMoulin
   > A A [8]904.476.8744
   > References
   > A A 1. [9]http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
   > A A 2. [10]http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   > _______________________________________________
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   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > [11]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [12]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
   > 2. http://www.kbsi.co/
   > 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
   > 4. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > 5. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
   > 6. http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
   > 7. http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   > 8. tel:904.476.8744
   > 9. http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
   > 10. http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   > 11. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 12. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 4
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:56:31 -0600
   > From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   > To: detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Wheel lug nut configuration
   > Message-ID:
   > <CANX29aW0-UsHn4GMKv4cv0MYZpnDq+ioNtFSt08Pt=bDCZWxSQ at mail.gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > One of our local guys wants to get a modern space saver spare for his
   > Pantera. What size wheel lug nut configuration pattern should he look
   for.
   > I believe it's standard Ford but what size is that? (4 1/2" ???) And
   do
   > they still use that size today? Can you get a larger diameter wheel
   like
   > maybe a 16"?
   >
   > Thanks,
   >
   > Jeff
   > 6559
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > One of our local guys wants to get a modern space saver spare for his
   > Pantera. What size wheel lug nut configuration patternA should he
   look
   > for. I believe it's standard Ford but what size is that? (4 1/2" ???)
   > And do they still use that size today? Can you get a larger diameter
   > wheel like maybe a 16"?
   > Thanks,
   > Jeff
   > 6559
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 5
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:58:33 -0800
   > From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
   > To: "'Boyd Casey'" <boyd411 at gmail.com>, "'Rob Dumoulin'"
   > <rob at dumoulins.net>
   > Cc: 'DeTomaso Mail List' <detomaso at poca.com>, 'Ken Green'
   > <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] HUGH BOYD CASEY
   > Message-ID: <029a01cffd39$dad77430$90865c90$@comcast.net>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > Very glad to hear it. We'll see you in Texas!
   >
   > Mike Thomas
   > VP, POCA
   > VP, Panteras Northwest
   > Yellow ?74 #6328
   >
   >
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
   Casey
   > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 3:05 PM
   > To: Rob Dumoulin
   > Cc: DeTomaso Mail List; Ken Green
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] HUGH BOYD CASEY
   >
   > Thanks for all the well wishers and prayers. I am happy to say I was
   released from the hospital today and this time I think is was for good!
   "We have met the enemy and he was one ugly SOB Now I am ready to get
   back to the work of getting my Cat re powered for the spring! Thanks
   again for all the support.
   >
   > Boyd
   >
   > On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
   wrote:
   >
   > > Thanks for the update Bob.
   > > Hugh is in our prayers
   > > Rob DuMoulin
   > > 904.476.8744
   > > [1]rob at dumoulins.net
   > > On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 9:21 AM, robert via DeTomaso
   > > <[2]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
   > >
   > > A A Hello Pantera Friends ,
   > > A A I spoke with Hugh last night .
   > > A A The hospital sent him home a few days after the operation which
   > > in most
   > > A A cases is always too early .
   > > A A A few days ago Hugh was in the emergency room and has been
   > > re-admitted
   > > A A .
   > > A A He is gaining his strength and I am sure that my friend and
   > > yours will
   > > A A be home soon .
   > > A A I will keep you posted as I hear from him.
   > > A A Best,
   > > A A Bob Levitt
   > > A A In a message dated 11/7/2014 12:16:46 A.M. Eastern Standard
   > > Time,
   > > A A [3]kenn_green at yahoo.com writes:
   > > A A Any news?
   > > A A Ken
   > > A A From: robert via DeTomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > A A To: [5]detomaso at poca.com
   > > A A Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:18 PM
   > > A A Subject: [DeTomaso] HUGH BOYD CASEY
   > > A A A Dear Fellow Pantera Owners ,
   > > A A A My friend and yours, Hugh Boyd Casey has come thru surgery .
   > > I spoke
   > > A A A with him today and he was in pain, but that comes along with
   > > surgery.
   > > A A A He told me that the Surgery went well !
   > > A A A Now he must recuperate.
   > > A A A I told him to rest up and use the winter to come back strong
   > > for the
   > > A A A driving season in the spring here on the east coast .
   > > A A A He has the best team of Doctors here in New York.
   > > A A A We are a very tight group of special owners of a very
   > > special car . I
   > > A A A know that Hugh would love to hear from you all.
   > > A A A I will try and keep you informed as to how he is doing .
   > > A A A Best Regards,
   > > A A A Bob Levitt
   > > A A A Team Pantera of Long Island
   > > A A A President
   > > A A A [6]516-695-0854
   > > A A _______________________________________________
   > > A A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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   > > A A [1][7]DeTomaso at poca.com
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   > > References
   > > A A 1. mailto:[9]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > A A 2. [10]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > _______________________________________________
   > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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   > > [12]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > > References
   > >
   > > 1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
   > > 2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > > 3. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > > 5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > > 6. tel:516-695-0854
   > > 7. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > 8. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > 9. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > 10. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > 11. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > 12. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
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   >
   >
   >
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 6
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:08:28 -0800
   > From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
   > To: "'Rob Dumoulin'" <rob at dumoulins.net>, "'DeTomaso Mail List'"
   > <DeTomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
   > Message-ID: <02a101cffd3b$3dd5bff0$b9813fd0$@comcast.net>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > Questions:
   >
   > What about the environmental? Looks like you're just letting the
   water and old paint runoff into the grass. Shouldn't this be done in an
   area where the runoff can be captured for any hazmats?
   > Does the paint need to be treated ahead of time with any kind of a
   softener beforehand?
   > What about something like a unibody Pantera that has lots of areas to
   catch water where you may not want it or have trouble getting it out? I
   suppose that's not too much of a problem if you are only stripping the
   exterior, but we all know how the Pantera loves water.
   >
   > Mike Thomas
   > VP, POCA
   > VP, Panteras Northwest
   > Yellow ?74 #6328
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Rob
   Dumoulin
   > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:01 AM
   > To: DeTomaso Mail List
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
   >
   > Guys,
   >
   > As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business on the
   side.
   > The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it is to strip
   a car. Keep in mind that the surface cools as it strips and the depth
   profile is very tunable. The aluminum front clip being stripped is from
   a bristol.
   >
   > Bristol Front Clip (Rear) http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc Bristol Front
   Clip
   > (Front) http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   >
   >
   > Rob DuMoulin
   > 904.476.8744
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 7
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:20:58 -0500
   > From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
   > To: "'Rob Dumoulin'" <rob at dumoulins.net>
   > Cc: 'DeTomaso Mail List' <DeTomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
   > Message-ID: <D2A58C2859B145F896AE474DD5A9C03F at LarryHPPC>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
   >
   > Hi Rob,
   >
   > How is it on rust with only 80 PSI?
   >
   >
   >
   > Larry (under pressure) - Cleveland
   >
   > _____
   >
   > From: Rob Dumoulin [mailto:rob at dumoulins.net]
   > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 4:47 PM
   > To: Larry - Ohio Time
   > Cc: DeTomaso Mail List
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
   >
   > The pressure I was blasting at was 80 PSI. Much different than a
   pressure
   > washer pressure.
   >
   >
   > Rob DuMoulin
   > 904.476.8744
   > rob at dumoulins.net
   > www.kbsi.co
   > <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58>
   > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
   >
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Larry - Ohio Time
   <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
   > wrote:
   > That looks great Rob. I bought a sandblaster kit for my 3000 PSI
   pressure
   > washer and it works nothing like that... I wish it did.
   >
   > Larry (all I have is rust) - Cleveland
   >
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Rob
   Dumoulin
   > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:01 PM
   > To: DeTomaso Mail List
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
   >
   > Guys,
   >
   > As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business on the
   side.
   > The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it is to strip
   a
   > car. Keep in mind that the surface cools as it strips and the depth
   > profile is very tunable. The aluminum front clip being stripped is
   from a
   > bristol.
   >
   > Bristol Front Clip (Rear) http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc Bristol Front
   Clip
   > (Front) http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   >
   >
   > Rob DuMoulin
   > 904.476.8744
   >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > Hi Rob,
   >
   >
   > How is it on rust with only 80 PSI?
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > Larry (under pressure) - Cleveland
   >
   >
   _______________________________________________________________________
   >
   > From: Rob Dumoulin [mailto:rob at dumoulins.net]
   > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 4:47 PM
   > To: Larry - Ohio Time
   > Cc: DeTomaso Mail List
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
   >
   >
   > The pressure I was blasting at was 80 PSI. Much different than a
   > pressure washer pressure.
   >
   > Rob DuMoulin
   > 904.476.8744
   > [1]rob at dumoulins.net
   >
   > [2]www.kbsi.co
   >
   > [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
   >
   >
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Larry - Ohio Time
   > <[4]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:
   >
   > That looks great Rob. I bought a sandblaster kit for my 3000 PSI
   > pressure
   > washer and it works nothing like that... I wish it did.
   > Larry (all I have is rust) - Cleveland
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Rob
   > Dumoulin
   > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:01 PM
   > To: DeTomaso Mail List
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC. Wet blaster video
   > Guys,
   > As I stated a few weeks ago, I started a wet blasting business on the
   > side.
   > The unit I purchased is phenomenal. Check out how easy it is to strip
   a
   > car. Keep in mind that the surface cools as it strips and the depth
   > profile is very tunable. The aluminum front clip being stripped is
   > from a
   > bristol.
   > Bristol Front Clip (Rear) [6]http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc Bristol
   > Front Clip
   > (Front) [7]http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   > Rob DuMoulin
   > [8]904.476.8744
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
   > 2. http://www.kbsi.co/
   > 3. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
   > 4. mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
   > 5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
   > 6. http://youtu.be/jxsBN4ACqDc
   > 7. http://youtu.be/mrT_ttcY0BM
   > 8. tel:904.476.8744
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 8
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:07:08 -0800
   > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
   > To: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   > Message-ID: <SNT146-W94B3980E69A21C6116B195BC810 at phx.gbl>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
   >
   > Hi all,
   > I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine, and
   they published a one-pager on my Pantera. It's a nice article, and they
   even put in a couple of pictures!
   > What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun Rally.
   > Sincerely,
   > Chris
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > Hi all,
   > I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine, and
   they
   > published a one-pager on my Pantera. It's a nice article, and they
   > even put in a couple of pictures!
   > What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun Rally.
   > Sincerely,
   > Chris
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 9
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:17:44 -0600
   > From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   > To: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
   > Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   > Message-ID:
   > <CANX29aVOvTc6Ez6uYZtL2ZoCS=DLcTupSx4qEji4biKeoNrEOw at mail.gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > can you send us a link
   >
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher Kimball
   <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
   > wrote:
   >
   > > Hi all,
   > > I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine, and
   they
   > > published a one-pager on my Pantera. It's a nice article, and they
   > > even put in a couple of pictures!
   > > What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun
   Rally.
   > > Sincerely,
   > > Chris
   > >
   > > _______________________________________________
   > >
   > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > >
   > > DeTomaso mailing list
   > > DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > can you send us a link
   >
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher Kimball
   > <[1]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
   >
   > A A Hi all,
   > A A I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine,
   > and they
   > A A published a one-pager on my Pantera.A It's a nice article, and
   > they
   > A A even put in a couple of pictures!
   > A A What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun
   > Rally.
   > A A Sincerely,
   > A A Chris
   > _______________________________________________
   > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > [2]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
   > 2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 10
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:22:29 -0800
   > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
   > To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   > Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   > Message-ID: <SNT146-W50735EF78324CDEA92AF9FBC810 at phx.gbl>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
   >
   > They sent me two of the paper versions--I don't know if it is online
   somewhere...
   >
   > From: jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:17:44 -0600
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   > To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
   > CC: detomaso at poca.com
   >
   > can you send us a link
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher Kimball
   <chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
   > Hi all,
   >
   > I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine, and
   they
   >
   > published a one-pager on my Pantera. It's a nice article, and they
   >
   > even put in a couple of pictures!
   >
   > What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun Rally.
   >
   > Sincerely,
   >
   > Chris
   >
   >
   > _______________________________________________
   >
   >
   >
   > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   >
   >
   >
   > DeTomaso mailing list
   >
   > DeTomaso at poca.com
   >
   > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > They sent me two of the paper versions--I don't know if it is online
   > somewhere...
   > __________________________________________________________________
   >
   > From: jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:17:44 -0600
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   > To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
   > CC: detomaso at poca.com
   > can you send us a link
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher Kimball
   > <[1]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
   >
   > Hi all,
   > I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine,
   > and they
   > published a one-pager on my Pantera. It's a nice article, and
   > they
   > even put in a couple of pictures!
   > What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun
   > Rally.
   > Sincerely,
   > Chris
   > _______________________________________________
   > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > [2]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
   > 2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 11
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:24:45 -0500
   > From: Tom Shinrock <tmshinro at aol.com>
   > To: chrisvkimball at msn.com, detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   > Message-ID: <8D1CB762CCE2A93-2904-6791 at webmail-m233.sysops.aol.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
   >
   >
   > Chris,
   >
   > Can you scan and attach the article to a post?
   >
   > Tom
   > 5186
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
   > To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   > Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Sent: Mon, Nov 10, 2014 7:22 pm
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   >
   >
   > They sent me two of the paper versions--I don't know if it is online
   > somewhere...
   > __________________________________________________________________
   >
   > From: jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:17:44 -0600
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   > To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
   > CC: detomaso at poca.com
   > can you send us a link
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher Kimball
   > <[1]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
   >
   > Hi all,
   > I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine,
   > and they
   > published a one-pager on my Pantera. It's a nice article, and
   > they
   > even put in a couple of pictures!
   > What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun
   > Rally.
   > Sincerely,
   > Chris
   > _______________________________________________
   > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > [2]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
   > 2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   >
   > _______________________________________________
   >
   > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   >
   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > DeTomaso at poca.com
   > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > Chris,
   > Can you scan and attach the article to a post?
   > Tom
   > 5186
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
   > To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   > Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Sent: Mon, Nov 10, 2014 7:22 pm
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   > They sent me two of the paper versions--I don't know if it is online
   > somewhere...
   > __________________________________________________________________
   >
   > From: [1]jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:17:44 -0600
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   > To: [2]chrisvkimball at msn.com
   > CC: [3]detomaso at poca.com
   > can you send us a link
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher Kimball
   > <[1][4]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
   >
   > Hi all,
   > I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine,
   > and they
   > published a one-pager on my Pantera. It's a nice article, and
   > they
   > even put in a couple of pictures!
   > What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun
   > Rally.
   > Sincerely,
   > Chris
   > _______________________________________________
   > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > [2][5]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [3][6]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. [7]mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
   > 2. [8]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 3. [9]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > _______________________________________________
   >
   > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   >
   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > [10]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [11]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > 2. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
   > 3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 4. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
   > 5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 7. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com?
   > 8. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com?
   > 9. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 12
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:10:12 -0800
   > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
   > To: Tom Shinrock <tmshinro at aol.com>, Pantera list serve
   > <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   > Message-ID: <SNT146-W466F67800A3DF3A025EF1DBC810 at phx.gbl>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
   >
   > I'll try, but I don't think attachments work with the forum email
   system. When I get to the office tomorrow, I'll see if my staff can
   make it work!
   > Sincerely,
   > Chris
   >
   > To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   > From: tmshinro at aol.com
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:24:45 -0500
   >
   >
   >
   > Chris,
   >
   >
   >
   > Can you scan and attach the article to a post?
   >
   >
   >
   > Tom
   >
   > 5186
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   >
   >
   > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
   >
   >
   > To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   >
   >
   > Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
   >
   >
   > Sent: Mon, Nov 10, 2014 7:22 pm
   >
   >
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > They sent me two of the paper versions--I don't know if it is online
   > somewhere...
   > __________________________________________________________________
   >
   > From: jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:17:44 -0600
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   > To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
   > CC: detomaso at poca.com
   > can you send us a link
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher Kimball
   > <[1]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
   >
   > Hi all,
   > I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine,
   > and they
   > published a one-pager on my Pantera. It's a nice article, and
   > they
   > even put in a couple of pictures!
   > What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun
   > Rally.
   > Sincerely,
   > Chris
   > _______________________________________________
   > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > [2]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
   > 2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > _______________________________________________
   >
   > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   >
   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > DeTomaso at poca.com
   > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > I'll try, but I don't think attachments work with the forum email
   > system. When I get to the office tomorrow, I'll see if my staff can
   > make it work!
   > Sincerely,
   > Chris
   > __________________________________________________________________
   >
   > To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   > From: tmshinro at aol.com
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:24:45 -0500
   > Chris,
   > Can you scan and attach the article to a post?
   > Tom
   > 5186
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
   > To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   > Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Sent: Mon, Nov 10, 2014 7:22 pm
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   > They sent me two of the paper versions--I don't know if it is online
   > somewhere...
   > __________________________________________________________________
   >
   > From: [1]jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:17:44 -0600
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pandora's 15 minutes of fame
   > To: [2]chrisvkimball at msn.com
   > CC: [3]detomaso at poca.com
   > can you send us a link
   > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Christopher Kimball
   > <[1][4]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
   >
   > Hi all,
   > I just got the latest edition of Hagerty Classic Car magazine,
   > and they
   > published a one-pager on my Pantera. It's a nice article, and
   > they
   > even put in a couple of pictures!
   > What's great is they mention our local club, and the POCA Fun
   > Rally.
   > Sincerely,
   > Chris
   > _______________________________________________
   > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > [2][5]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [3][6]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. [7]mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
   > 2. [8]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 3. [9]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > _______________________________________________
   >
   > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   >
   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > [10]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [11]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > 2. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
   > 3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 4. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
   > 5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 7. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com?
   > 8. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com?
   > 9. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 13
   > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 23:09:19 -0800
   > From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
   > To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Hagerty Pantera article
   > Message-ID:
   > <1415689759.29365.YahooMailNeo at web125005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
   >
   > While searching for Chris' article on the Hagerty website I found an
   article from 2010 by Adams Hudson (regular contributor to the PI
   Board).
   >
   http://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2010/12/09/Pantera-Ripe
   -for-picking-up-not-picking-on
   >
   >
   > Look forward to a scanned copy of your article Chris.
   >
   > Cheers!
   > Garth
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > While searching for Chris' article on the Hagerty website I found an
   > article from 2010 by Adams Hudson (regular contributor to the PI
   > Board).
   >
   [1]http://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2010/12/09/Pantera-R
   > ipe-for-picking-up-not-picking-on
   > Look forward to a scanned copy of your article Chris.
   > Cheers!
   > Garth
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1.
   http://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2010/12/09/Pantera-Ripe
   -for-picking-up-not-picking-on
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 14
   > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 00:32:30 -0800
   > From: "Tomas Gunnarsson" <guson at home.se>
   > To: <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   > Cc: detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wheel lug nut configuration
   > Message-ID: <10AC7E1DA8604B709A6CC82A4A126B0C at mail2world.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
   >
   > Jeff,
   >
   > Wheels with 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern are plentiful in all common
   > diameters. What you need to pay attention to is A: center hole size
   and
   > B: caliper clearance. My car uses stock brakes and I have a 115/70-15
   > (IIRC) tire on a 15x4.5" steel rim.
   >
   > Tomas
   >
   > <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
   >
   > From: Jeff Detrich [jjdetrich at gmail.com]
   > Sent: 10/11/2014 11:56:31 PM
   > To: detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Wheel lug nut configuration
   >
   > One of our local guys wants to get a modern space saver spare for his
   > Pantera. What size wheel lug nut configuration pattern should he look
   > for.
   > I believe it's standard Ford but what size is that? (4 1/2" ???) And
   do
   > they still use that size today? Can you get a larger diameter wheel
   like
   > maybe a 16"?
   >
   > Thanks,
   >
   > Jeff
   > 6559
   >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > Jeff,
   >
   >
   >
   > Wheels with 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern are plentiful in all
   > common diameters. What you need to pay attention to is A: center hole
   > size and B: caliper clearance. My car uses stock brakes and I have a
   > 115/70-15 (IIRC) tire on a 15x4.5" steel rim.
   >
   >
   >
   > Tomas
   > <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande----->
   >
   > From: Jeff Detrich [jjdetrich at gmail.com]
   > Sent: 10/11/2014 11:56:31 PM
   > To: detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Wheel lug nut configuration
   > One of our local guys wants to get a modern space saver spare for his
   > Pantera. What size wheel lug nut configuration pattern should he look
   > for.
   > I believe it's standard Ford but what size is that? (4 1/2" ???) And
   do
   > they still use that size today? Can you get a larger diameter wheel
   > like
   > maybe a 16"?
   > Thanks,
   > Jeff
   > 6559
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 15
   > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:38:09 -0500
   > From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
   > To: "'DeTomaso Mail List'" <DeTomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Veterns Day
   > Message-ID: <3186EF4162F948088369FF053B4ED9A6 at LarryHPPC>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
   >
   > Today I would like to do a different Veterans salute, then my normal.
   >
   > It's still the eleventh month, eleventh day and eleventh hour of
   Armistice
   > Day.
   >
   > Today on this day I would like you all to remember and think about
   one of
   > our Pantera Brothers we lost this year. Chuck Adkinson from Columbus,
   Ohio.
   > Chuck and I became good friends from this list. It must be around 15
   years
   > or so. He took on a rust bucket Pantera, like me, and did 90% of all
   the
   > work himself. Kirk and I would lend a hand and advice when needed but
   Chuck
   > did it. He did it all from teaching himself to weld, stripping every
   nut and
   > bolt off of it, to working on cars in general. He was always a bike
   guy. He
   > did some flat track racing in his younger years. Must have had 4 or 5
   bikes
   > the last time I was down there.
   >
   > Chuck served our country in Vet Nam, 9th Cavalry, enlisted December
   14,
   > 1967, flying Hueys then later Cobras. He continued his service after
   the war
   > in the Ohio Army National Guard. The first time I went to his old
   house I
   > past a VFW hall with a Huey on it roof. I asked him how did they get
   it up
   > on the roof, "Simple I just landed it there". His love of flying was
   strong
   > as he became a corporate jet pilot for the local utility. We would
   often
   > talk/email back and forth when he was stuck in some airport in no man
   land
   > USA. After his 59th birthday, (I think they retire you from flying at
   60 in
   > the service) he got called in service once again, going to Iraq. Even
   though
   > flying helicopters for 40 some years the Army liked his corporate jet
   > experience. They place him into a small business type turbo-jet
   plane, to
   > ferry people and supplies to needed locations. I asked him what type
   of
   > armament the plane had. "Flairs". Should his systems show that he is
   being
   > tracked by radar he would deploy flairs to trick any missiles that
   may be on
   > there way. I asked him how he likes shooting off flairs compared to
   rockets.
   > "Oh, its fine till you run out of flairs".
   >
   > A few years ago he retired from work, sold his beautiful home, shop
   and
   > Pantera 2113 (something he regretted) to move to Tennessee on a small
   farm.
   > He and his wife Sue have a love of animals and needed more then 5
   acres. His
   > plan was to build a new shop and make his dream car, '32 Ford, 5
   window hot
   > rod. He had a poster of the American Graffiti car on the wall. Chuck
   likes
   > to work on a project maybe more then finishing. Journey and
   destination
   > thing.
   >
   > Unfortunately the plans of man do not outweigh the plans of God.
   Chuck was
   > diagnosed with brain cancer one week after selling everything. He
   fought a
   > battle like never before against an enemy like never before. After
   two years
   > he lost that battle this summer at age 66. He was berried in
   Arlington
   > National Cemetery this fall.
   >
   > Reading many of his emails today over many years, the 9/11 email
   talked
   > about enemies know and unknown. Truer then we can understand.
   >
   > I am living with the regrets that all friends do, should have stopped
   down
   > more often, should have made it to the motorcycle hill climb we
   talked about
   > every year, should have, should have, should have. Please learn form
   my
   > mistakes.
   >
   > He would tell me "I was shot up, but never shot down". How true that
   was in
   > so many ways.
   >
   > So today please remember the people that serve your country, no mater
   where
   > it is, and think well of our friend Chuck (Apache 34). God Bless you
   my
   > friend.
   >
   >
   > Larry (Cleveland) Homolak
   >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > Today I would like to do a different Veterans salute, then my normal.
   >
   >
   > It's still the eleventh month, eleventh day and eleventh hour of
   > Armistice Day.
   >
   >
   > Today on this day I would like you all to remember and think about
   one
   > of our Pantera Brothers we lost this year. Chuck Adkinson from
   > Columbus, Ohio. Chuck and I became good friends from this list. It
   must
   > be around 15 years or so. He took on a rust bucket Pantera, like me,
   > and did 90% of all the work himself. Kirk and I would lend a hand and
   > advice when needed but Chuck did it. He did it all from teaching
   > himself to weld, stripping every nut and bolt off of it, to working
   on
   > cars in general. He was always a bike guy. He did some flat track
   > racing in his younger years. Must have had 4 or 5 bikes the last time
   I
   > was down there.
   >
   >
   > Chuck served our country in Vet Nam, 9^th Cavalry, enlisted December
   > 14, 1967, flying Hueys then later Cobras. He continued his service
   > after the war in the Ohio Army National Guard. The first time I went
   to
   > his old house I past a VFW hall with a Huey on it roof. I asked him
   how
   > did they get it up on the roof, "Simple I just landed it there". His
   > love of flying was strong as he became a corporate jet pilot for the
   > local utility. We would often talk/email back and forth when he was
   > stuck in some airport in no man land USA. After his 59^th birthday,
   (I
   > think they retire you from flying at 60 in the service) he got called
   > in service once again, going to Iraq. Even though flying helicopters
   > for 40 some years the Army liked his corporate jet experience. They
   > place him into a small business type turbo-jet plane, to ferry people
   > and supplies to needed locations. I asked him what type of armament
   the
   > plane had. "Flairs"... Should his systems show that he is being
   tracked
   > by radar he would deploy flairs to trick any missiles that may be on
   > there way. I asked him how he likes shooting off flairs compared to
   > rockets. "Oh, its fine till you run out of flairs".
   >
   >
   > A few years ago he retired from work, sold his beautiful home, shop
   and
   > Pantera 2113 (something he regretted) to move to Tennessee on a small
   > farm. He and his wife Sue have a love of animals and needed more then
   5
   > acres. His plan was to build a new shop and make his dream car, '32
   > Ford, 5 window hot rod. He had a poster of the American Graffiti car
   on
   > the wall. Chuck likes to work on a project maybe more then finishing.
   > Journey and destination thing...
   >
   >
   > Unfortunately the plans of man do not outweigh the plans of God.
   Chuck
   > was diagnosed with brain cancer one week after selling everything. He
   > fought a battle like never before against an enemy like never before.
   > After two years he lost that battle this summer at age 66. He was
   > berried in Arlington National Cemetery this fall.
   >
   >
   > Reading many of his emails today over many years, the 9/11 email
   talked
   > about enemies know and unknown. Truer then we can understand.
   >
   >
   > I am living with the regrets that all friends do, should have stopped
   > down more often, should have made it to the motorcycle hill climb we
   > talked about every year, should have, should have, should have...
   > Please learn form my mistakes.
   >
   >
   > He would tell me "I was shot up, but never shot down". How true that
   > was in so many ways.
   >
   >
   > So today please remember the people that serve your country, no mater
   > where it is, and think well of our friend Chuck (Apache 34). God
   Bless
   > you my friend.
   >
   >
   >
   > Larry (Cleveland) Homolak
   > -------------- next part --------------
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   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 16
   > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:47:50 +0000 (UTC)
   > From: jgkrenton at comcast.net
   > To: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
   > Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Veterns Day
   > Message-ID:
   > <2052755383.3907105.1415724470099.JavaMail.zimbra at comcast.net>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > Amen!
   >
   > Jeff/2467
   >
   >
   > ----- Original Message -----
   >
   > From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
   > To: "DeTomaso Mail List" <DeTomaso at poca.com>
   > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:38:09 AM
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Veterns Day
   >
   > Today I would like to do a different Veterans salute, then my normal.
   >
   > It's still the eleventh month, eleventh day and eleventh hour of
   Armistice
   > Day.
   >
   > Today on this day I would like you all to remember and think about
   one of
   > our Pantera Brothers we lost this year. Chuck Adkinson from Columbus,
   Ohio.
   > Chuck and I became good friends from this list. It must be around 15
   years
   > or so. He took on a rust bucket Pantera, like me, and did 90% of all
   the
   > work himself. Kirk and I would lend a hand and advice when needed but
   Chuck
   > did it. He did it all from teaching himself to weld, stripping every
   nut and
   > bolt off of it, to working on cars in general. He was always a bike
   guy. He
   > did some flat track racing in his younger years. Must have had 4 or 5
   bikes
   > the last time I was down there.
   >
   > Chuck served our country in Vet Nam, 9th Cavalry, enlisted December
   14,
   > 1967, flying Hueys then later Cobras. He continued his service after
   the war
   > in the Ohio Army National Guard. The first time I went to his old
   house I
   > past a VFW hall with a Huey on it roof. I asked him how did they get
   it up
   > on the roof, "Simple I just landed it there". His love of flying was
   strong
   > as he became a corporate jet pilot for the local utility. We would
   often
   > talk/email back and forth when he was stuck in some airport in no man
   land
   > USA. After his 59th birthday, (I think they retire you from flying at
   60 in
   > the service) he got called in service once again, going to Iraq. Even
   though
   > flying helicopters for 40 some years the Army liked his corporate jet
   > experience. They place him into a small business type turbo-jet
   plane, to
   > ferry people and supplies to needed locations. I asked him what type
   of
   > armament the plane had. "Flairs". Should his systems show that he is
   being
   > tracked by radar he would deploy flairs to trick any missiles that
   may be on
   > there way. I asked him how he likes shooting off flairs compared to
   rockets.
   > "Oh, its fine till you run out of flairs".
   >
   > A few years ago he retired from work, sold his beautiful home, shop
   and
   > Pantera 2113 (something he regretted) to move to Tennessee on a small
   farm.
   > He and his wife Sue have a love of animals and needed more then 5
   acres. His
   > plan was to build a new shop and make his dream car, '32 Ford, 5
   window hot
   > rod. He had a poster of the American Graffiti car on the wall. Chuck
   likes
   > to work on a project maybe more then finishing. Journey and
   destination
   > thing.
   >
   > Unfortunately the plans of man do not outweigh the plans of God.
   Chuck was
   > diagnosed with brain cancer one week after selling everything. He
   fought a
   > battle like never before against an enemy like never before. After
   two years
   > he lost that battle this summer at age 66. He was berried in
   Arlington
   > National Cemetery this fall.
   >
   > Reading many of his emails today over many years, the 9/11 email
   talked
   > about enemies know and unknown. Truer then we can understand.
   >
   > I am living with the regrets that all friends do, should have stopped
   down
   > more often, should have made it to the motorcycle hill climb we
   talked about
   > every year, should have, should have, should have. Please learn form
   my
   > mistakes.
   >
   > He would tell me "I was shot up, but never shot down". How true that
   was in
   > so many ways.
   >
   > So today please remember the people that serve your country, no mater
   where
   > it is, and think well of our friend Chuck (Apache 34). God Bless you
   my
   > friend.
   >
   >
   > Larry (Cleveland) Homolak
   >
   >
   > _______________________________________________
   >
   > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   >
   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > DeTomaso at poca.com
   > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > Amen!
   > Jeff/2467
   > __________________________________________________________________
   >
   > From: "Larry - Ohio Time" <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
   > To: "DeTomaso Mail List" <DeTomaso at poca.com>
   > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:38:09 AM
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Veterns Day
   > Today I would like to do a different Veterans salute, then my normal.
   >
   > It's still the eleventh month, eleventh day and eleventh hour of
   > Armistice
   > Day.
   >
   > Today on this day I would like you all to remember and think about
   one
   > of
   > our Pantera Brothers we lost this year. Chuck Adkinson from Columbus,
   > Ohio.
   > Chuck and I became good friends from this list. It must be around 15
   > years
   > or so. He took on a rust bucket Pantera, like me, and did 90% of all
   > the
   > work himself. Kirk and I would lend a hand and advice when needed but
   > Chuck
   > did it. He did it all from teaching himself to weld, stripping every
   > nut and
   > bolt off of it, to working on cars in general. He was always a bike
   > guy. He
   > did some flat track racing in his younger years. Must have had 4 or 5
   > bikes
   > the last time I was down there.
   >
   > Chuck served our country in Vet Nam, 9th Cavalry, enlisted December
   14,
   > 1967, flying Hueys then later Cobras. He continued his service after
   > the war
   > in the Ohio Army National Guard. The first time I went to his old
   house
   > I
   > past a VFW hall with a Huey on it roof. I asked him how did they get
   it
   > up
   > on the roof, "Simple I just landed it there". His love of flying was
   > strong
   > as he became a corporate jet pilot for the local utility. We would
   > often
   > talk/email back and forth when he was stuck in some airport in no man
   > land
   > USA. After his 59th birthday, (I think they retire you from flying at
   > 60 in
   > the service) he got called in service once again, going to Iraq. Even
   > though
   > flying helicopters for 40 some years the Army liked his corporate jet
   > experience. They place him into a small business type turbo-jet
   plane,
   > to
   > ferry people and supplies to needed locations. I asked him what type
   of
   > armament the plane had. "Flairs". Should his systems show that he is
   > being
   > tracked by radar he would deploy flairs to trick any missiles that
   may
   > be on
   > there way. I asked him how he likes shooting off flairs compared to
   > rockets.
   > "Oh, its fine till you run out of flairs".
   >
   > A few years ago he retired from work, sold his beautiful home, shop
   and
   > Pantera 2113 (something he regretted) to move to Tennessee on a small
   > farm.
   > He and his wife Sue have a love of animals and needed more then 5
   > acres. His
   > plan was to build a new shop and make his dream car, '32 Ford, 5
   window
   > hot
   > rod. He had a poster of the American Graffiti car on the wall. Chuck
   > likes
   > to work on a project maybe more then finishing. Journey and
   destination
   > thing.
   >
   > Unfortunately the plans of man do not outweigh the plans of God.
   Chuck
   > was
   > diagnosed with brain cancer one week after selling everything. He
   > fought a
   > battle like never before against an enemy like never before. After
   two
   > years
   > he lost that battle this summer at age 66. He was berried in
   Arlington
   > National Cemetery this fall.
   >
   > Reading many of his emails today over many years, the 9/11 email
   talked
   > about enemies know and unknown. Truer then we can understand.
   >
   > I am living with the regrets that all friends do, should have stopped
   > down
   > more often, should have made it to the motorcycle hill climb we
   talked
   > about
   > every year, should have, should have, should have. Please learn form
   my
   > mistakes.
   >
   > He would tell me "I was shot up, but never shot down". How true that
   > was in
   > so many ways.
   >
   > So today please remember the people that serve your country, no mater
   > where
   > it is, and think well of our friend Chuck (Apache 34). God Bless you
   my
   > friend.
   >
   >
   > Larry (Cleveland) Homolak
   >
   > _______________________________________________
   > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > DeTomaso at poca.com
   > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 17
   > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:37:42 -0800
   > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
   > To: Larry - Ohio Time <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>, Pantera list serve
   > <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Veterns Day
   > Message-ID: <SNT146-W936A82E43C9D5F25B40653BC810 at phx.gbl>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
   >
   > Great email!
   > Thanks,
   > Chris
   >
   > From: Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
   > To: DeTomaso at poca.com
   > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:38:09 -0500
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Veterns Day
   >
   > Today I would like to do a different Veterans salute, then my normal.
   >
   > It's still the eleventh month, eleventh day and eleventh hour of
   Armistice
   > Day.
   >
   > Today on this day I would like you all to remember and think about
   one of
   > our Pantera Brothers we lost this year. Chuck Adkinson from Columbus,
   Ohio.
   > Chuck and I became good friends from this list. It must be around 15
   years
   > or so. He took on a rust bucket Pantera, like me, and did 90% of all
   the
   > work himself. Kirk and I would lend a hand and advice when needed but
   Chuck
   > did it. He did it all from teaching himself to weld, stripping every
   nut and
   > bolt off of it, to working on cars in general. He was always a bike
   guy. He
   > did some flat track racing in his younger years. Must have had 4 or 5
   bikes
   > the last time I was down there.
   >
   > Chuck served our country in Vet Nam, 9th Cavalry, enlisted December
   14,
   > 1967, flying Hueys then later Cobras. He continued his service after
   the war
   > in the Ohio Army National Guard. The first time I went to his old
   house I
   > past a VFW hall with a Huey on it roof. I asked him how did they get
   it up
   > on the roof, "Simple I just landed it there". His love of flying was
   strong
   > as he became a corporate jet pilot for the local utility. We would
   often
   > talk/email back and forth when he was stuck in some airport in no man
   land
   > USA. After his 59th birthday, (I think they retire you from flying at
   60 in
   > the service) he got called in service once again, going to Iraq. Even
   though
   > flying helicopters for 40 some years the Army liked his corporate jet
   > experience. They place him into a small business type turbo-jet
   plane, to
   > ferry people and supplies to needed locations. I asked him what type
   of
   > armament the plane had. "Flairs". Should his systems show that he is
   being
   > tracked by radar he would deploy flairs to trick any missiles that
   may be on
   > there way. I asked him how he likes shooting off flairs compared to
   rockets.
   > "Oh, its fine till you run out of flairs".
   >
   > A few years ago he retired from work, sold his beautiful home, shop
   and
   > Pantera 2113 (something he regretted) to move to Tennessee on a small
   farm.
   > He and his wife Sue have a love of animals and needed more then 5
   acres. His
   > plan was to build a new shop and make his dream car, '32 Ford, 5
   window hot
   > rod. He had a poster of the American Graffiti car on the wall. Chuck
   likes
   > to work on a project maybe more then finishing. Journey and
   destination
   > thing.
   >
   > Unfortunately the plans of man do not outweigh the plans of God.
   Chuck was
   > diagnosed with brain cancer one week after selling everything. He
   fought a
   > battle like never before against an enemy like never before. After
   two years
   > he lost that battle this summer at age 66. He was berried in
   Arlington
   > National Cemetery this fall.
   >
   > Reading many of his emails today over many years, the 9/11 email
   talked
   > about enemies know and unknown. Truer then we can understand.
   >
   > I am living with the regrets that all friends do, should have stopped
   down
   > more often, should have made it to the motorcycle hill climb we
   talked about
   > every year, should have, should have, should have. Please learn form
   my
   > mistakes.
   >
   > He would tell me "I was shot up, but never shot down". How true that
   was in
   > so many ways.
   >
   > So today please remember the people that serve your country, no mater
   where
   > it is, and think well of our friend Chuck (Apache 34). God Bless you
   my
   > friend.
   >
   >
   > Larry (Cleveland) Homolak
   >
   >
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   > Great email!
   > Thanks,
   > Chris
   > From: Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
   > To: DeTomaso at poca.com
   > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:38:09 -0500
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Veterns Day
   > Today I would like to do a different Veterans salute, then my normal.
   >
   > It's still the eleventh month, eleventh day and eleventh hour of
   Armistice
   > Day.
   >
   > Today on this day I would like you all to remember and think about
   one of
   > our Pantera Brothers we lost this year. Chuck Adkinson from Columbus,
   Ohio.
   > Chuck and I became good friends from this list. It must be around 15
   years
   > or so. He took on a rust bucket Pantera, like me, and did 90% of all
   the
   > work himself. Kirk and I would lend a hand and advice when needed but
   Chuck
   > did it. He did it all from teaching himself to weld, stripping every
   nut and
   > bolt off of it, to working on cars in general. He was always a bike
   guy. He
   > did some flat track racing in his younger years. Must have had 4 or 5
   bikes
   > the last time I was down there.
   >
   > Chuck served our country in Vet Nam, 9th Cavalry, enlisted December
   14,
   > 1967, flying Hueys then later Cobras. He continued his service after
   the war
   > in the Ohio Army National Guard. The first time I went to his old
   house I
   > past a VFW hall with a Huey on it roof. I asked him how did they get
   it up
   > on the roof, "Simple I just landed it there". His love of flying was
   strong
   > as he became a corporate jet pilot for the local utility. We would
   often
   > talk/email back and forth when he was stuck in some airport in no man
   land
   > USA. After his 59th birthday, (I think they retire you from flying at
   60 in
   > the service) he got called in service once again, going to Iraq. Even
   though
   > flying helicopters for 40 some years the Army liked his corporate jet
   > experience. They place him into a small business type turbo-jet
   plane, to
   > ferry people and supplies to needed locations. I asked him what type
   of
   > armament the plane had. "Flairs". Should his systems show that he is
   being
   > tracked by radar he would deploy flairs to trick any missiles that
   may be on
   > there way. I asked him how he likes shooting off flairs compared to
   rockets.
   > "Oh, its fine till you run out of flairs".
   >
   > A few years ago he retired from work, sold his beautiful home, shop
   and
   > Pantera 2113 (something he regretted) to move to Tennessee on a small
   farm.
   > He and his wife Sue have a love of animals and needed more then 5
   acres. His
   > plan was to build a new shop and make his dream car, '32 Ford, 5
   window hot
   > rod. He had a poster of the American Graffiti car on the wall. Chuck
   likes
   > to work on a project maybe more then finishing. Journey and
   destination
   > thing.
   >
   > Unfortunately the plans of man do not outweigh the plans of God.
   Chuck was
   > diagnosed with brain cancer one week after selling everything. He
   fought a
   > battle like never before against an enemy like never before. After
   two years
   > he lost that battle this summer at age 66. He was berried in
   Arlington
   > National Cemetery this fall.
   >
   > Reading many of his emails today over many years, the 9/11 email
   talked
   > about enemies know and unknown. Truer then we can understand.
   >
   > I am living with the regrets that all friends do, should have stopped
   down
   > more often, should have made it to the motorcycle hill climb we
   talked about
   > every year, should have, should have, should have. Please learn form
   my
   > mistakes.
   >
   > He would tell me "I was shot up, but never shot down". How true that
   was in
   > so many ways.
   >
   > So today please remember the people that serve your country, no mater
   where
   > it is, and think well of our friend Chuck (Apache 34). God Bless you
   my
   > friend.
   >
   >
   > Larry (Cleveland) Homolak
   >
   >
   > _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum
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   > by POCA DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at poca.com
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   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 18
   > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:42:02 -0800
   > From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
   > To: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera Article
   > Message-ID: <SNT146-W93FF768B232700628AF86CBC810 at phx.gbl>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
   >
   > I'm not sure if this attachment will work, but here is the article
   (attached).
   >
   > It's actually an abbreviated version of what they published on line a
   while ago:
   >
   http://www.hagerty.com/yourstories/2014/02/20/It39s-not-a-toy-it39s-an-
   investment20140220123747
   > Sincerely,
   > Chris
   >
   >
   >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > I'm not sure if this attachment will work, but here is the article
   > (attached).
   > It's actually an abbreviated version of what they published on line a
   > while ago:
   >
   [1]http://www.hagerty.com/yourstories/2014/02/20/It39s-not-a-toy-it39s-
   > an-investment20140220123747
   > Sincerely,
   > Chris
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1.
   http://www.hagerty.com/yourstories/2014/02/20/It39s-not-a-toy-it39s-an-
   investment20140220123747
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
   > Name: Pantera Article in Hagerty Winter 2014.pdf
   > Type: application/pdf
   > Size: 400432 bytes
   > Desc: not available
   > URL:
   <http://poca.com/pipermail/detomaso_poca.com/attachments/20141111/07ff5
   f27/attachment-0001.pdf>
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 19
   > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:54:38 -0500
   > From: DeTomaso Pantera <tampapantera at gmail.com>
   > To: detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Bart Bingaman?
   > Message-ID:
   > <CAAXtRAuTZG4cAT-SDhZs_5hnHLnfFxLGSmL0daS4-1ba=yDX3g at mail.gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > Does anyone know Bart and his 73 Pantera? Here is a video of him and
   his
   > Pantera: http://vimeo.com/108968641 . When I first saw his car, I
   thought I
   > was looking at #2428's "doppleganger" (except Bart's P-car) has the
   > mandated 5 mph bumper in front of his '73. Does anyone know what size
   > tires he is running? Thanks. Cal #2428.
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > Does anyone know Bart and his 73 Pantera? Here is a video of him and
   > his Pantera:A [1]http://vimeo.com/108968641 . When I first saw his
   car,
   > I thought I was looking at #2428's "doppleganger" (except Bart's
   P-car)
   > has the mandated 5 mph bumper in front of his '73.A Does anyone know
   > what size tires he is running? Thanks. Cal #2428.A
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. http://vimeo.com/108968641
   >
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   >
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