[DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R
Jeff Detrich
jjdetrich at gmail.com
Sat Nov 8 12:03:32 EST 2014
Have you added relays in all the regular places?
Jeff
6559
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Lynn Wall <lwall67 at gmail.com> wrote:
> One more question. What are the suggested improvements that one should
> make while doing this? I know there are several devices that remove
> the loads from the ignition switch and headlight switch. What about
> new fuse panels like the one sold on Pantera Electronics web site?
> Advantages, disadvantages? I am looking at the weather pack products.
>
>
> I also know there are some guys that sell improvements, I would love to
> hear from you, or even about you.
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 9:29 AM
> To: grayjim at cox.net; lwall67 at gmail.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R
>
>
> Bill Taylor's drawings on Pantera Place are very good:
>
>
> [1]Electrical Diagrams
>
>
>
> [2]Image removed by sender. image
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [3]Electrical Diagrams
>
> The electrical diagrams on this page were researched and drawn by Bill
> Taylor and they show the detail of one electrical system at a time.
> The drawings do not ...
>
> [4]View on www.panteraplace.com
>
> Preview by Yahoo
>
>
>
>
> There are also color drawings by other contributors if you scroll
> down. I suppose you could take the file into Costco and have a poster
> made?
>
>
> Ken
>
> From: "grayjim at cox.net" <grayjim at cox.net>
> To: lwall67 at gmail.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 8:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R
>
> To All:
> Wasn't someone on the Forum selling color coded wiring diagrams at one
> time? I can't remember who it was. I know the wire colors can vary
> from car to car but it would be a big help to have one anyway.
> Jim Gray
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Lynn Wall wrote:
> > What a great resource. Thanks!!
> >
> > I have it mostly zip tied to a piece of plywood, see picture. It
> does
> > not look to bad but I have found a few melted wires. Glad I'm doing
> > this beforehand.
> >
> > Thanks to all that have helped and made suggestions.
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> > doug351c
> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:07 PM
> > To: Brian Dudley
> > Cc: [6]detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R
> >
> > Here's a more complete selection of Faston connectors and terminals
> in
> > an Excel file for you DIY guys. Let me know if the attachment gets
> > stripped. It's only 150 k-bytes but .xls files may get blocked.
> >
> > Doug Braun
> > blue 73L #5505
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[7]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of
> Brian
> > Dudley
> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 7:12 AM
> > To: Lynn Wall
> > Cc: [8]detomaso at poca.com; [9]jderyke at aol.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R
> >
> >
> > I replaced all my connectors as many were corroded or burnt, keeping
> > the original style.
> > You can get the connectors from Digikey,
> >
> [10]http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?KeyWords=a27936ct-nd&WT.z_
> header=search_go
> > This is just the female in one size, there are 3 sizes, male and
> > female and I got 100 of each.
> > You could get away with less and maybe not the smaller size.
> > You need to cut the little tags as they come connected together.
> > They also sell the single one connector solid cover,
> >
> [11]http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?vendor=0&keywords=a27915-n
> d
> >
> > I had trouble getting the multiple wire plastic connectors, some of
> > mine were burnt from bad connections.
> > In the end I got mine from the UK, they also do a kit including the
> > connectors.
> > [12]http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product_list/7
> > They also have a great choice of colors and sizes in wiring.
> > So if you want to look for that brown with red stripe or white with
> > orange stripe rather than just using a red wire, this bunch is good.
> > Great if you are adding some extra wires.
> > Think about replacing the main battery lead that goes from the
> > alternator.
> > A #4 cable to at least the fuse panel / ignition switch will help if
> > you later use a larger output alternator.
> >
> > Buy a good wire stripper, I think this is the one I have,
> > [13]http://www.amazon.com/Gb-Wire-Stripper-22-Awg/dp/B00448IWI6
> > A good ratchet wire crimper,
> > [14]http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/wire_termination
> > I think this is the one I got,
> >
> >
> [15]http://www.amazon.com/Tool-Aid-18920-Ratcheting-Terminal/dp/B0002ST
> TTI/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=083X516ZH2DN81FG3A89
> >
> > Also Jon Haas sells the connectors and terminals.
> > [16]http://www.pantera-electronics.com/wireharness.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Lynn Wall <[17]lwall67 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Recondition and repair/restore. Definitely not replace. It is out
> >> of
> >> the car and mounted in plywood.
> >>
> >> Is there a place to buy a supply of connectors to do what you
> >> suggest?
> >>
> >> Thx
> >> Sent from my mobile device
> >>
> >> On Nov 5, 2014, at 6:06 PM, [1][18]jderyke at aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >> By 'R&R the wiring harness', I assume you mean 'replace all the
> >> unplated multiconnectors that corrode and cause trouble'.
> >> Replacing the
> >> whole harness is a monumental job! My advice- work on the task
> >> every
> >> single day even if its only for a few minutes. And have the
> >> replacements you need close at hard. I've seen at least two
> >> Panteras in
> >> which owners got disgusted with the wiring and tore it all out.
> >> Neither
> >> of those cars ever again moved an inch under their own power.
> Good
> >> luck. J DeRyke
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Lynn Wall <[2][19]lwall67 at gmail.com>
> >> To: detomaso <[3][20]detomaso at poca.com>
> >> Sent: Wed, Nov 5, 2014 4:26 pm
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R So I'm getting ready to
> R&R
> >> my wiring harness. Any suggestions? What have some of you done to
> >> make sure yours was as sound as possible?
> >>
> >> Any specialists I should contact?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance
> >>
> >> Sent from my mobile device
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> >> References
> >>
> >> 1. mailto:[23]jderyke at aol.com
> >> 2. mailto:[24]lwall67 at gmail.com
> >> 3. mailto:[25]detomaso at poca.com
> >> 4. mailto:[26]DeTomaso at poca.com
> >> 5. [27]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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> References
>
> 1. http://www.panteraplace.com/page107.htm
> 2. http://www.panteraplace.com/page107.htm
> 3. http://www.panteraplace.com/page107.htm
> 4. http://www.panteraplace.com/page107.htm
> 5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 7. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 8. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 9. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
> 10.
> http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?KeyWords=a27936ct-nd&WT.z_header=search_go
> 11. http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?vendor=0&keywords=a27915-nd
> 12. http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product_list/7
> 13. http://www.amazon.com/Gb-Wire-Stripper-22-Awg/dp/B00448IWI6
> 14. http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/wire_termination
> 15.
> http://www.amazon.com/Tool-Aid-18920-Ratcheting-Terminal/dp/B0002STTTI/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=083X516ZH2DN81FG3A89
> 16. http://www.pantera-electronics.com/wireharness.htm
> 17. mailto:lwall67 at gmail.com
> 18. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
> 19. mailto:lwall67 at gmail.com
> 20. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 23. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
> 24. mailto:lwall67 at gmail.com
> 25. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 26. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 27. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 28. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 29. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 30. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 31. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 32. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 33. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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Have you added relays in all the regular places?
Jeff
6559
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Lynn Wall <[1]lwall67 at gmail.com>
wrote:
A A One more question.A What are the suggested improvements that
one should
A A make while doing this?A I know there are several devices that
remove
A A the loads from the ignition switch and headlight switch.A What
about
A A new fuse panels like the one sold on Pantera Electronics web
site?
A A Advantages, disadvantages?A I am looking at the weather pack
products.
A A I also know there are some guys that sell improvements, I would
love to
A A hear from you, or even about you.
A A Thanks
A A From: Ken Green [mailto:[2]kenn_green at yahoo.com]
A A Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 9:29 AM
A A To: [3]grayjim at cox.net; [4]lwall67 at gmail.com
A A Cc: [5]detomaso at poca.com
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R
A A Bill Taylor's drawings on Pantera Place are very good:
A A [1]Electrical Diagrams
A A [2]Image removed by sender. image
A A [3]Electrical Diagrams
A A The electrical diagrams on this page were researched and drawn by
Bill
A A Taylor and they show the detail of one electrical system at a
time.
A A The drawings do not ...
A A [4]View on [6]www.panteraplace.com
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
A A A A A Preview by Yahoo
A A There are also color drawings by other contributors if you scroll
A A down.A I suppose you could take the file into Costco and have a
poster
A A made?
A A Ken
A A From: "[7]grayjim at cox.net" <[8]grayjim at cox.net>
A A To: [9]lwall67 at gmail.com
A A Cc: [10]detomaso at poca.com
A A Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 8:07 AM
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R
A A To All:
A A Wasn't someone on the Forum selling color coded wiring diagrams at
one
A A time?A I can't remember who it was.A I know the wire colors can
vary
A A from car to car but it would be a big help to have one anyway.
A A Jim Gray
A A On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Lynn Wall wrote:
A A > What a great resource.A Thanks!!
A A >
A A > I have it mostly zip tied to a piece of plywood, see picture.A
It
A A does
A A > not look to bad but I have found a few melted wires.A Glad I'm
doing
A A > this beforehand.
A A >
A A > Thanks to all that have helped and made suggestions.
A A >
A A > Lynn
A A >
A A > -----Original Message-----
A A > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[5][11]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
Behalf Of
A A > doug351c
A A > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:07 PM
A A > To: Brian Dudley
A A > Cc: [6][12]detomaso at poca.com
A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R
A A >
A A > Here's a more complete selection of Faston connectors and
terminals
A A in
A A > an Excel file for you DIY guys.A Let me know if the attachment
gets
A A > stripped. It's only 150 k-bytes but .xls files may get blocked.
A A >
A A > Doug Braun
A A > blue 73L #5505
A A >
A A >
A A >
A A > -----Original Message-----
A A > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[7][13]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On
Behalf Of
A A Brian
A A > Dudley
A A > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 7:12 AM
A A > To: Lynn Wall
A A > Cc: [8][14]detomaso at poca.com; [9][15]jderyke at aol.com
A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R
A A >
A A >
A A > I replaced all my connectors as many were corroded or burnt,
keeping
A A > the original style.
A A > You can get the connectors from Digikey,
A A >
A
A [10][16]http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?KeyWords=a27936ct-nd
&WT.z_
A A header=search_go
A A > This is just the female in one size, there are 3 sizes, male and
A A > female and I got 100 of each.
A A > You could get away with less and maybe not the smaller size.
A A > You need to cut the little tags as they come connected together.
A A > They also sell the single one connector solid cover,
A A >
A
A [11][17]http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?vendor=0&keywords=a2
7915-n
A A d
A A >
A A > I had trouble getting the multiple wire plastic connectors, some
of
A A > mine were burnt from bad connections.
A A > In the end I got mine from the UK, they also do a kit including
the
A A > connectors.
A A > [12][18]http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product_list/7
A A > They also have a great choice of colors and sizes in wiring.
A A > So if you want to look for that brown with red stripe or white
with
A A > orange stripe rather than just using a red wire, this bunch is
good.
A A > Great if you are adding some extra wires.
A A > Think about replacing the main battery lead that goes from the
A A > alternator.
A A > A #4 cable to at least the fuse panel / ignition switch will
help if
A A > you later use a larger output alternator.
A A >
A A > Buy a good wire stripper, I think this is the one I have,
A A >
[13][19]http://www.amazon.com/Gb-Wire-Stripper-22-Awg/dp/B00448IWI6
A A > A good ratchet wire crimper,
A A > [14][20]http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/wire_termination
A A > I think this is the one I got,
A A >
A A >
A
A [15][21]http://www.amazon.com/Tool-Aid-18920-Ratcheting-Terminal/dp/B
0002ST
A A TTI/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=083X516ZH2DN81FG3A89
A A >
A A > Also Jon Haas sells the connectors and terminals.
A A > [16][22]http://www.pantera-electronics.com/wireharness.htm
A A >
A A >
A A >
A A > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Lynn Wall
<[17][23]lwall67 at gmail.com>
A A wrote:
A A >
A A >>A A Recondition and repair/restore. Definitely not replace. It
is out
A A >> of
A A >>A A the car and mounted in plywood.
A A >>
A A >>A A Is there a place to buy a supply of connectors to do what
you
A A >> suggest?
A A >>
A A >>A A Thx
A A >>A A Sent from my mobile device
A A >>
A A >>A A On Nov 5, 2014, at 6:06 PM, [1][18][24]jderyke at aol.com
wrote:
A A >>
A A >>A A By 'R&R the wiring harness', I assume you mean 'replace
all the
A A >>A A unplated multiconnectors that corrode and cause trouble'.
A A >> Replacing the
A A >>A A whole harness is a monumental job! My advice- work on the
task
A A >> every
A A >>A A single day even if its only for a few minutes. And have
the
A A >>A A replacements you need close at hard. I've seen at least
two
A A >> Panteras in
A A >>A A which owners got disgusted with the wiring and tore it all
out.
A A >> Neither
A A >>A A of those cars ever again moved an inch under their own
power.
A A Good
A A >>A A luck. J DeRyke
A A >>A A -----Original Message-----
A A >>A A From: Lynn Wall <[2][19][25]lwall67 at gmail.com>
A A >>A A To: detomaso <[3][20][26]detomaso at poca.com>
A A >>A A Sent: Wed, Nov 5, 2014 4:26 pm
A A >>A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R So I'm getting
ready to
A A R&R
A A >> my wiring harness. Any suggestions?A What have some of you
done to
A A >> make sure yours was as sound as possible?
A A >>
A A >> Any specialists I should contact?
A A >>
A A >> Thanks in advance
A A >>
A A >> Sent from my mobile device
A A >> _______________________________________________
A A >>
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A A >>
A A >> References
A A >>
A A >>A A 1. mailto:[23][29]jderyke at aol.com
A A >>A A 2. mailto:[24][30]lwall67 at gmail.com
A A >>A A 3. mailto:[25][31]detomaso at poca.com
A A >>A A 4. mailto:[26][32]DeTomaso at poca.com
A A >>A A 5.
[27][33]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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References
A A 1. [40]http://www.panteraplace.com/page107.htm
A A 2. [41]http://www.panteraplace.com/page107.htm
A A 3. [42]http://www.panteraplace.com/page107.htm
A A 4. [43]http://www.panteraplace.com/page107.htm
A A 5. mailto:[44]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
A A 6. mailto:[45]detomaso at poca.com
A A 7. mailto:[46]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
A A 8. mailto:[47]detomaso at poca.com
A A 9. mailto:[48]jderyke at aol.com
A 10.
[49]http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?KeyWords=a27936ct-nd&WT.z_
header=search_go
A 11.
[50]http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?vendor=0&keywords=a27915-n
d
A 12. [51]http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product_list/7
A 13. [52]http://www.amazon.com/Gb-Wire-Stripper-22-Awg/dp/B00448IWI6
A 14. [53]http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/wire_termination
A 15.
[54]http://www.amazon.com/Tool-Aid-18920-Ratcheting-Terminal/dp/B0002ST
TTI/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=083X516ZH2DN81FG3A89
A 16. [55]http://www.pantera-electronics.com/wireharness.htm
A 17. mailto:[56]lwall67 at gmail.com
A 18. mailto:[57]jderyke at aol.com
A 19. mailto:[58]lwall67 at gmail.com
A 20. mailto:[59]detomaso at poca.com
A 21. mailto:[60]DeTomaso at poca.com
A 22. [61]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
A 23. mailto:[62]jderyke at aol.com
A 24. mailto:[63]lwall67 at gmail.com
A 25. mailto:[64]detomaso at poca.com
A 26. mailto:[65]DeTomaso at poca.com
A 27. [66]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
A 28. mailto:[67]DeTomaso at poca.com
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References
1. mailto:lwall67 at gmail.com
2. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
3. mailto:grayjim at cox.net
4. mailto:lwall67 at gmail.com
5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
6. http://www.panteraplace.com/
7. mailto:grayjim at cox.net
8. mailto:grayjim at cox.net
9. mailto:lwall67 at gmail.com
10. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
11. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
12. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
13. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
14. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
15. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
16. http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?KeyWords=a27936ct-nd&WT.z_
17. http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?vendor=0&keywords=a27915-n
18. http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product_list/7
19. http://www.amazon.com/Gb-Wire-Stripper-22-Awg/dp/B00448IWI6
20. http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/wire_termination
21. http://www.amazon.com/Tool-Aid-18920-Ratcheting-Terminal/dp/B0002ST
22. http://www.pantera-electronics.com/wireharness.htm
23. mailto:lwall67 at gmail.com
24. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
25. mailto:lwall67 at gmail.com
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