[DeTomaso] Moseley relay kit

Mike Drew MikeLDrew at aol.com
Fri Nov 7 15:57:56 EST 2014 

Guys,

Rick can be found at ramosel at pacbell.net

He is still in the relay kit business as far as I know?

Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 7, 2014, at 11:40, "Lynn Wall" <lwall67 at gmail.com> wrote:

>   Is Rick still selling his kit?  If so, how does one go about getting in
>   touch with him?  I am going with EFI as well so I will have many of the
>   same devices you have.
> 
> 
>   Lynn
> 
> 
>   From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com]
>   Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 10:34 AM
>   To: Lynn Wall; grayjim at cox.net
>   Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R
> 
> 
>   The Mosley kit fixed the existing circuits by using the ignition switch
>   to control relays.  Pretty simple, you just put the relays between the
>   ignition switch and the loads.
> 
> 
>   I added several new electric devices, EFI, fuel pump, water pump, etc.
>   and an going to a voltage gauge, so it made sense to build a new
>   fuse/relay panel.
> 
> 
>   This is for a 73 that has a bunch of unnecessary wiring that I removed,
>   like the starter lockout, etc. which also motivated getting deep into
>   the wiring.
> 
> 
>   Ken
> 
> 
>   From: Lynn Wall <[1]lwall67 at gmail.com>
>   To: 'Ken Green' <[2]kenn_green at yahoo.com>; [3]grayjim at cox.net
>   Cc: [4]detomaso at poca.com
>   Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 8:45 AM
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R
> 
>     One more question.  What are the suggested improvements that one
>   should
>     make while doing this?  I know there are several devices that remove
>     the loads from the ignition switch and headlight switch.  What about
>     new fuse panels like the one sold on Pantera Electronics web site?
>     Advantages, disadvantages?  I am looking at the weather pack
>   products.
>     I also know there are some guys that sell improvements, I would love
>   to
>     hear from you, or even about you.
>     Thanks
>     From: Ken Green [mailto:[5]kenn_green at yahoo.com]
>     Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 9:29 AM
>     To: [6]grayjim at cox.net; [7]lwall67 at gmail.com
>     Cc: [8]detomaso at poca.com
>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R
>     Bill Taylor's drawings on Pantera Place are very good:
>     [1]Electrical Diagrams
>     [2]Image removed by sender. image
>     [3]Electrical Diagrams
>     The electrical diagrams on this page were researched and drawn by
>   Bill
>     Taylor and they show the detail of one electrical system at a time.
>     The drawings do not ...
>     [4]View on [9]www.panteraplace.com
>                                                             Preview by
>   Yahoo
>     There are also color drawings by other contributors if you scroll
>     down.  I suppose you could take the file into Costco and have a
>   poster
>     made?
>     Ken
>     From: "[10]grayjim at cox.net" <[11]grayjim at cox.net>
>     To: [12]lwall67 at gmail.com
>     Cc: [13]detomaso at poca.com
>     Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 8:07 AM
>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R
>     To All:
>     Wasn't someone on the Forum selling color coded wiring diagrams at
>   one
>     time?  I can't remember who it was.  I know the wire colors can vary
>     from car to car but it would be a big help to have one anyway.
>     Jim Gray
>     On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Lynn Wall wrote:
>> What a great resource.  Thanks!!
>> 
>> I have it mostly zip tied to a piece of plywood, see picture.  It
>     does
>> not look to bad but I have found a few melted wires.  Glad I'm
>   doing
>> this beforehand.
>> 
>> Thanks to all that have helped and made suggestions.
>> 
>> Lynn
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[5][14]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
>   Of
>> doug351c
>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:07 PM
>> To: Brian Dudley
>> Cc: [6][15]detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R
>> 
>> Here's a more complete selection of Faston connectors and terminals
>     in
>> an Excel file for you DIY guys.  Let me know if the attachment gets
>> stripped. It's only 150 k-bytes but .xls files may get blocked.
>> 
>> Doug Braun
>> blue 73L #5505
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[7][16]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf
>   Of
>     Brian
>> Dudley
>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 7:12 AM
>> To: Lynn Wall
>> Cc: [8][17]detomaso at poca.com; [9][18]jderyke at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R
>> 
>> 
>> I replaced all my connectors as many were corroded or burnt,
>   keeping
>> the original style.
>> You can get the connectors from Digikey,
> 
>   [10][19]http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?KeyWords=a27936ct-nd&W
>   T.z_
>     header=search_go
>> This is just the female in one size, there are 3 sizes, male and
>> female and I got 100 of each.
>> You could get away with less and maybe not the smaller size.
>> You need to cut the little tags as they come connected together.
>> They also sell the single one connector solid cover,
> 
>   [11][20]http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?vendor=0&keywords=a279
>   15-n
>     d
>> 
>> I had trouble getting the multiple wire plastic connectors, some of
>> mine were burnt from bad connections.
>> In the end I got mine from the UK, they also do a kit including the
>> connectors.
>> [12][21]http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product_list/7
>> They also have a great choice of colors and sizes in wiring.
>> So if you want to look for that brown with red stripe or white with
>> orange stripe rather than just using a red wire, this bunch is
>   good.
>> Great if you are adding some extra wires.
>> Think about replacing the main battery lead that goes from the
>> alternator.
>> A #4 cable to at least the fuse panel / ignition switch will help
>   if
>> you later use a larger output alternator.
>> 
>> Buy a good wire stripper, I think this is the one I have,
>> [13][22]http://www.amazon.com/Gb-Wire-Stripper-22-Awg/dp/B00448IWI6
>> A good ratchet wire crimper,
>> [14][23]http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/wire_termination
>> I think this is the one I got,
> 
>   [15][24]http://www.amazon.com/Tool-Aid-18920-Ratcheting-Terminal/dp/B00
>   02ST
>     TTI/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=083X516ZH2DN81FG3A89
>> 
>> Also Jon Haas sells the connectors and terminals.
>> [16][25]http://www.pantera-electronics.com/wireharness.htm
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Lynn Wall
>   <[17][26]lwall67 at gmail.com>
>     wrote:
>> 
>>>   Recondition and repair/restore. Definitely not replace. It is
>   out
>>> of
>>>   the car and mounted in plywood.
>>> 
>>>   Is there a place to buy a supply of connectors to do what you
>>> suggest?
>>> 
>>>   Thx
>>>   Sent from my mobile device
>>> 
>>>   On Nov 5, 2014, at 6:06 PM, [1][18][27]jderyke at aol.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>   By 'R&R the wiring harness', I assume you mean 'replace all the
>>>   unplated multiconnectors that corrode and cause trouble'.
>>> Replacing the
>>>   whole harness is a monumental job! My advice- work on the task
>>> every
>>>   single day even if its only for a few minutes. And have the
>>>   replacements you need close at hard. I've seen at least two
>>> Panteras in
>>>   which owners got disgusted with the wiring and tore it all out.
>>> Neither
>>>   of those cars ever again moved an inch under their own power.
>     Good
>>>   luck. J DeRyke
>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>   From: Lynn Wall <[2][19][28]lwall67 at gmail.com>
>>>   To: detomaso <[3][20][29]detomaso at poca.com>
>>>   Sent: Wed, Nov 5, 2014 4:26 pm
>>>   Subject: [DeTomaso] Wiring harness R&R So I'm getting ready to
>     R&R
>>> my wiring harness. Any suggestions?  What have some of you done to
>>> make sure yours was as sound as possible?
>>> 
>>> Any specialists I should contact?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> 
>>> Sent from my mobile device
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