[DeTomaso] Hydraulic Throw-out Bearing

[Julian Kift]

Scott,

I am trying to reconcile in my mind why you would need that much throw? You would surely require enough to allow separation of the clutch friction plate from the flywheel, which should be pretty much the standard unless you are running a really exotic clutch. Is it a question of too much initial movement that requires taking up before you engage on the throw out bearing, thus reducing effective throw? If so a longer custom bearing carrier might be your best solution, Kennedy Engineering would be your best go to for that.

Increasing you clutch master diameter size would provide more volume for slave throw, assuming you are not already maxed out.

I am not sure how the fluid volume vs throw equates in a hydraulic throw out to a conventional slave, but pushing a hydraulic throw out to the limits of throw risks blowing out the seal.

Julian

> From: scott at saccrestorations.net
> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 20:24:43 -0800
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hydraulic Throw-out Bearing
> 
> I have a long throw external slave. I need a longer throw than the ZF fork will provide...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Drew [mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 8:03 PM
> To: Scott Bell
> Cc: Pantdino; detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hydraulic Throw-out Bearing
> 
> If you only need longer throw I would definitely prefer a long throw external slave....
> 
> Mike
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 2, 2014, at 19:40, "Scott Bell" <scott at saccrestorations.net> wrote:
> 
> >   Yes, I am aware of this...
> > 
> > 
> >   Come to think about it, when the stock throw-out bearing fails, you
> >   still have to pull out the ZF... J
> > 
> > 
> >   What they offer is a longer throw which is what I am in need of...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   From: Pantdino [mailto:pantdino at aol.com]
> >   Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 7:35 PM
> >   To: scott at saccrestorations.net; detomaso at poca.com
> >   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hydraulic Throw-out Bearing
> > 
> > 
> >   You do know that if / when the bearing fails you have to pull the ZF,
> >   right?
> > 
> > 
> >   I'm curious as to what they have to offer that offsets that risk.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: Scott Bell <[1]scott at saccrestorations.net>
> >   To: detomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
> >   Sent: Sun, Nov 2, 2014 7:00 pm
> >   Subject: [DeTomaso] Hydraulic Throw-out Bearing
> > 
> >   Does anyone have any experience with a hydraulic throw-out bearing for
> >   the ZF? Any recommendations on a unit that works well with the ZF? I
> >   was looking at a Tilton 6000 series unit but I am not sure if it will
> >   work easily with the ZF?
> > 
> > 
> >   Thanks, Scott
> > 
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> > References
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> >   1. mailto:scott at saccrestorations.net
> >   2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >   3. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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   Scott,
   I am trying to reconcile in my mind why you would need that much throw?
   You would surely require enough to allow separation of the clutch
   friction plate from the flywheel, which should be pretty much the
   standard unless you are running a really exotic clutch. Is it a
   question of too much initial movement that requires taking up before
   you engage on the throw out bearing, thus reducing effective throw? If
   so a longer custom bearing carrier might be your best solution, Kennedy
   Engineering would be your best go to for that.
   Increasing you clutch master diameter size would provide more volume
   for slave throw, assuming you are not already maxed out.
   I am not sure how the fluid volume vs throw equates in a hydraulic
   throw out to a conventional slave, but pushing a hydraulic throw out to
   the limits of throw risks blowing out the seal.
   Julian
   > From: scott at saccrestorations.net
   > To: MikeLDrew at aol.com
   > Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 20:24:43 -0800
   > CC: detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hydraulic Throw-out Bearing
   >
   > I have a long throw external slave. I need a longer throw than the ZF
   fork will provide...
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: Mike Drew [mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
   > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 8:03 PM
   > To: Scott Bell
   > Cc: Pantdino; detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hydraulic Throw-out Bearing
   >
   > If you only need longer throw I would definitely prefer a long throw
   external slave....
   >
   > Mike
   >
   > Sent from my iPhone
   >
   > On Nov 2, 2014, at 19:40, "Scott Bell" <scott at saccrestorations.net>
   wrote:
   >
   > > Yes, I am aware of this...
   > >
   > >
   > > Come to think about it, when the stock throw-out bearing fails, you
   > > still have to pull out the ZF... J
   > >
   > >
   > > What they offer is a longer throw which is what I am in need of...
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > From: Pantdino [mailto:pantdino at aol.com]
   > > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 7:35 PM
   > > To: scott at saccrestorations.net; detomaso at poca.com
   > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hydraulic Throw-out Bearing
   > >
   > >
   > > You do know that if / when the bearing fails you have to pull the
   ZF,
   > > right?
   > >
   > >
   > > I'm curious as to what they have to offer that offsets that risk.
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > -----Original Message-----
   > > From: Scott Bell <[1]scott at saccrestorations.net>
   > > To: detomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > Sent: Sun, Nov 2, 2014 7:00 pm
   > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Hydraulic Throw-out Bearing
   > >
   > > Does anyone have any experience with a hydraulic throw-out bearing
   for
   > > the ZF? Any recommendations on a unit that works well with the ZF?
   I
   > > was looking at a Tilton 6000 series unit but I am not sure if it
   will
   > > work easily with the ZF?
   > >
   > >
   > > Thanks, Scott
   > >
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   > >
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   > >
   > > References
   > >
   > > 1. mailto:scott at saccrestorations.net
   > > 2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > > 3. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > 4. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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