[DeTomaso] Mirrors for sale

Sat Nov 1 20:53:09 EDT 2014

I do not know what you listed (i.e. sellers name)

I DID NOT SEE A TRUE "TURBO" SET listed.  I saw a few "BABY TURBO" and "CALIFORNIA "  mirrors.

All the listings in my opinion are fairly priced.

BTW I did note that a remote Vitaloni switch kit is listed for a Buy It Now of $480 - which I consider a fair price owing to the rarity of the item.

BG

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 From: dfl <vvics442 at aol.com>
To: andriykoisg at yahoo.ca 
Cc: detomaso at poca.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mirrors for sale

Great info!
I just listed a pair on ebay
can you look at them and give me your thoughts?
Thx Warren

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From: The Goyaniuks <andriykoisg at yahoo.ca>
To: dfl <vvics442 at aol.com>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 1, 2014 04:20 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mirrors for sale

Sorry don't mean to be difficult but It really depends on the ones you have. 

The ones most desired are the same Vitalonis that were on: 
Ferrari 308, 328, 512BB, Lamborghini Countach, Pantera GT5, Longchamp to name a few.  These are the Vitaloni "Turbo" model.   You can tell the Turbo version by how they mount; the rubber bellows; and most importantly, the fixed mirror shell.  The mirror glass is separate and adjusts INSIDE the mirror shell (without moving the mirror body) by means of a gimble in the mirror housing body

There are two versions of the Vitoloni "Turbo" - manual adjustable and remote electric adjustable. 
I would say that the manuals are worth no less than $250 USD and the remote adjustable (most rare) no less than $600 USD.   After that, it is what ever the market says they are worth. Personally, I would not let NOS manuals go for under $500 and NOS electrics for under $1000 (I will tell you why below) 

The second versions are called Vitaloni "Baby Turbo".  These look similar to the Turbos but have a number of differences.  The mount is different, the mirror adjustment is different and the mirror is attached to the mirror housing body.  With the Baby Turbos, one adjusts the whole body/mirror glass together by moving a ball joint that is outside of the mirror housing body (the ball joint is covered by the bellows).  These are worth no less than $150 USD and I would not let NOS Baby Turbos go for less than $200. 

FYI.  The Vitaloni plant (which was owned by the Fiat group) suffered a major fire around the turn of the century and much of the tooling was lost - including, the tooling for the "Turbo" mirrors.  NOS "Turbo" mirrors are very hard to come by and can be classed as collectors items ... for restoration cars. 

In 1992-4 when I was shopping for "Turbos", The F-car dealership wanted $1K CAD  for the manual adjustable (I said "Oh that's nice, thanked them and walked out).  The Lamborghini dealer wanted $400 CAD for the manuals and $800 CAD for the remote electric.  I got mine from an specialty mirror dealer in the  US for less. 

Finally, the Turbos look the best and have the best quality, BUT the Baby Turbos adjust without modification to work well on a DeTomaso Pantera. 

HTH 

BG 

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 From: dfl via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
To: detomaso at poca.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 6:21 PM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Mirrors for sale

  I have a pair of Vitaloni mirrors for sale. 

  New condition never used. Has been in storage 30 years! 

  Anyone have a clue as to value? 

  Thanks 

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   I do not know what you listed (i.e. sellers name)
   I DID NOT SEE A TRUE "TURBO" SET listed.  I saw a few "BABY TURBO" and
   "CALIFORNIA "  mirrors.
   All the listings in my opinion are fairly priced.
   BTW I did note that a remote Vitaloni switch kit is listed for a Buy It
   Now of $480 - which I consider a fair price owing to the rarity of the
   item.
   BG
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: dfl <vvics442 at aol.com>
   To: andriykoisg at yahoo.ca
   Cc: detomaso at poca.com
   Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 7:27 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mirrors for sale
   Great info!
   I just listed a pair on ebay
   can you look at them and give me your thoughts?
   Thx Warren
   Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
   -----Original Message-----
   From: The Goyaniuks <andriykoisg at yahoo.ca>
   To: dfl <vvics442 at aol.com>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Sat, Nov 1, 2014 04:20 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mirrors for sale
   Sorry don't mean to be difficult but It really depends on the ones you
   have.
   The ones most desired are the same Vitalonis that were on:
   Ferrari 308, 328, 512BB, Lamborghini Countach, Pantera GT5, Longchamp
   to name a few.  These are the Vitaloni "Turbo" model.   You can tell
   the Turbo version by how they mount; the rubber bellows; and most
   importantly, the fixed mirror shell.  The mirror glass is separate and
   adjusts INSIDE the mirror shell (without moving the mirror body) by
   means of a gimble in the mirror housing body
   There are two versions of the Vitoloni "Turbo" - manual adjustable and
   remote electric adjustable.
   I would say that the manuals are worth no less than $250 USD and the
   remote adjustable (most rare) no less than $600 USD.   After that, it
   is what ever the market says they are worth. Personally, I would not
   let NOS manuals go for under $500 and NOS electrics for under $1000 (I
   will tell you why below)
   The second versions are called Vitaloni "Baby Turbo".  These look
   similar to the Turbos but have a number of differences.  The mount is
   different, the mirror adjustment is different and the mirror is
   attached to the mirror housing body.  With the Baby Turbos, one adjusts
   the whole body/mirror glass together by moving a ball joint that is
   outside of the mirror housing body (the ball joint is covered by the
   bellows).  These are worth no less than $150 USD and I would not let
   NOS Baby Turbos go for less than $200.
   FYI.  The Vitaloni plant (which was owned by the Fiat group) suffered a
   major fire around the turn of the century and much of the tooling was
   lost - including, the tooling for the "Turbo" mirrors.  NOS "Turbo"
   mirrors are very hard to come by and can be classed as collectors items
   ... for restoration cars.
   In 1992-4 when I was shopping for "Turbos", The F-car dealership wanted
   $1K CAD  for the manual adjustable (I said "Oh that's nice, thanked
   them and walked out).  The Lamborghini dealer wanted $400 CAD for the
   manuals and $800 CAD for the remote electric.  I got mine from an
   specialty mirror dealer in the  US for less.
   Finally, the Turbos look the best and have the best quality, BUT the
   Baby Turbos adjust without modification to work well on a DeTomaso
   Pantera.
   HTH
   BG
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   From: dfl via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso at poca.com>
   To: [2]detomaso at poca.com
   Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 6:21 PM
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Mirrors for sale
     I have a pair of Vitaloni mirrors for sale.
     New condition never used. Has been in storage 30 years!
     Anyone have a clue as to value?
     Thanks
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