[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 119, Issue 6
Trip Owen
lance730 at msn.com
Tue May 6 18:37:20 EDT 2014
ok - put a chair up against it, if you want - will try to get there Wed. or Thurs. - by the way -
are you guys extending or vacating, end of Jluy, I think
Trip
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: Harmonic balancer (Ken Green)
> 2. Re: Corbeau Seats (Himes, Terry (397C))
> 3. Re: Corbeau Seats (Will Kooiman)
> 4. Re: replacement seats (Will Kooiman)
> 5. Sniping (Ron)
> 6. Re: Harmonic balancer (cengles at cox.net)
> 7. Re: replacement seats (Mark Tumbarello)
> 8. Ride (Tom Shinrock)
> 9. Re: Ride (Christopher Kimball)
> 10. Re: replacement seats (Will Kooiman)
> 11. Re: Sniping (Boyd Casey)
> 12. Re: Corbeau Seats (Boyd Casey)
> 13. Re: Corbeau Seats (Boyd Casey)
> 14. POCA Fun Rally Raffle - Chapter and Individual Donations
> (Mike Thomas)
> 15. Re: Harmonic balancer (Tony DiGiovanna)
> 16. Re: Harmonic balancer (Boyd Casey)
> 17. Re: Harmonic balancer (Boyd Casey)
> 18. A Pantera on the track (Kirby Schrader)
> 19. Re: Harmonic balancer (Ken Green)
> 20. Re: Corbeau Seats (Will Kooiman)
> 21. Re: Harmonic balancer (Ken Green)
> 22. Re: [TPR] A Pantera on the track (David)
> 23. eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for Campi's (Michael Cox)
> 24. Re: eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for Campi's (Pantdino)
> 25. Re: eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for Campi's (Michael Cox)
> 26. Re: Harmonic balancer (Will Kooiman)
> 27. Re: [TPR] A Pantera on the track (B Hower)
> 28. Re: Harmonic balancer (cengles at cox.net)
> 29. Re: Harmonic balancer (Boyd Casey)
> 30. Re: Need Help gerbox (Freddy Henningsen)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 12:40:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> To: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>, "boyd411 at gmail.com"
> <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID:
> <1399318846.14118.YahooMailNeo at web162502.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I thought people liked the Romac damper:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659
>
> Are there diameter issues,?3 bolt vs 4?bolt pattern, etc?
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
>
>
> Dear Boyd,
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? There are lots of options.? I would not recommend the
> Rattler type balancer, although it might do well in a stock or mildly
> modified application.? You could simply get a Ford replacement or
> equivalent aftermarket stock type replacement if economy is paramount.
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The best ones that I am familiar with are ATI, BHJ and
> Rollmaster (IIRC).? I recently bought a BHJ harmonic balancer and it
> was a little less than $300.? ATI and Rollmaster are in the same range I
> believe.
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I suppose that in terms of bang for the buck a stock
> type replacement would be adequate for most uses.? If your mildly
> modified engine gets flogged, then it I would recommend one of the above
> balancers.? They're relatively expensive for a boring engine part, but a
> good balancer.......is still boring, but better in the long run for hipo
> engines.
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? FWIW,? Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Boyd Casey wrote:
>
> > I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> > wide
> > range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if i
> > tried
> > I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the consensus
> > as
> > far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351
> > Cleveland
> > that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money then
> > is
> > necessary? , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or suggestions?
> > Thanks,
> > Boyd
> >
> >
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> I thought people liked the Romac damper:
> [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Clevelan
> d-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659
> Are there diameter issues, 3 bolt vs 4 bolt pattern, etc?
> Ken
> From: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Dear Boyd,
> There are lots of options. I would not recommend the
> Rattler type balancer, although it might do well in a stock or mildly
> modified application. You could simply get a Ford replacement or
> equivalent aftermarket stock type replacement if economy is paramount.
> The best ones that I am familiar with are ATI, BHJ and
> Rollmaster (IIRC). I recently bought a BHJ harmonic balancer and it
> was a little less than $300. ATI and Rollmaster are in the same range
> I
> believe.
> I suppose that in terms of bang for the buck a stock
> type replacement would be adequate for most uses. If your mildly
> modified engine gets flogged, then it I would recommend one of the
> above
> balancers. They're relatively expensive for a boring engine part, but
> a
> good balancer.......is still boring, but better in the long run for
> hipo
> engines.
> FWIW, Chuck Engles
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Boyd Casey wrote:
> > I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> > wide
> > range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if i
> > tried
> > I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> consensus
> > as
> > far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351
> > Cleveland
> > that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money then
> > is
> > necessary , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or suggestions?
> > Thanks,
> > Boyd
> >
> >
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> References
>
> 1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 19:41:49 +0000
> From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> To: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>, "Mirril
> M. McMullen" <mirrilm at earthlink.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> Message-ID: <CF8D375C.55D2D%thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I'm IN for seats also! I hate my Corvette seats.
>
>
> Terry W. Himes
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
> Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
> Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
> Fax: (818) 393-3147
> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> ??
>
> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>" <michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:51 AM
> To: "Mirril M. McMullen" <mirrilm at earthlink.net<mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net>>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>" <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
>
> I have attached the bracket guide.
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen <mirrilm at earthlink.net<mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net>>wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that Corbeau
> make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the seats are a good
> value.
>
> I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if there was a
> Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile) for the Pantera.
>
> Let us know your thoughts.
>
> #6859 WAYBAC
>
> /\/\
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
> To: detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
>
> Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only orders.
> (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old prices (
> http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been asked to become
> a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to get the BEST
> pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail now, see the
> Corbeau website for current pricing.
> But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my Pantera
> friends.
> So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and if we can
> get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
>
> Michael Shortt
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael L. Shortt
> Savannah, Georgia
> www.michaelshortt.com
> michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>
> 912-232-9390
>
>
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>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael L. Shortt
> Savannah, Georgia
> www.michaelshortt.com
> michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>
> 912-232-9390
>
>
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> -------------- next part --------------
> I'm IN for seats also! I hate my Corvette seats.
>
> Terry W. Himes
>
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>
> Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
>
> Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
>
> Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
>
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>
> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>
> [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>
> From: "[2]michael at michaelshortt.com" <[3]michael at michaelshortt.com>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:51 AM
> To: "Mirril M. McMullen" <[4]mirrilm at earthlink.net>
> Cc: "[5]detomaso at poca.com" <[6]detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
>
> I have attached the bracket guide.
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
> <[7]mirrilm at earthlink.net>wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that Corbeau
>
> make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the seats are a
> good
>
> value.
>
> I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if there was
> a
>
> Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile) for the
> Pantera.
>
> Let us know your thoughts.
>
> #6859 WAYBAC
>
> /\/\
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>
> [9]michael at michaelshortt.com
>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
>
> To: [10]detomaso at poca.com
>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
>
> Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only
> orders.
>
> (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old prices (
>
> [11]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been asked to
> become
>
> a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to get the BEST
>
> pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail now, see
> the
>
> Corbeau website for current pricing.
>
> But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my Pantera
>
> friends.
>
> So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and if we
> can
>
> get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
>
> Michael Shortt
>
> --
>
> Michael L. Shortt
>
> Savannah, Georgia
>
> www.michaelshortt.com
>
> [12]michael at michaelshortt.com
>
> 912-232-9390
>
> This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act,
> 18
>
> U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
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>
> retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication
> is
>
> strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received
>
> this message in error, then delete it. Thank you
>
> --
> Michael L. Shortt
> Savannah, Georgia
> www.michaelshortt.com
> [13]michael at michaelshortt.com
> 912-232-9390
> This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
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> References
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> 1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> 2. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 4. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 7. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 8. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 9. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 10. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 11. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> 12. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 13. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 15:45:54 -0400
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>, "Mirril
> M. McMullen" <mirrilm at earthlink.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> Message-ID: <CF8D61FE.78686%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> You want brackets for a 911. It is very flat, and the 911 has a flat
> floor pan, which matches the Pantera.
>
> But it might not be low enough. That's what I'm dealing with right now.
> My seat isn't quite low enough, but I haven't tried with it actually
> bolted to the bracket. I need to spend some time mocking it up to see
> what needs to move.
>
> But like I said, if you want a bracket - check out the one for a 911.
> Otherwise, bolt it to the floor.
> --
> Will
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/5/14 2:51 PM, "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I have attached the bracket guide.
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
> > <[1]mirrilm at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > Michael,
> > I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that
> > Corbeau make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the
> > seats are a good value.
> > I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if there
> > was a Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile) for
> > the Pantera.
> > Let us know your thoughts.
> > #6859 WAYBAC
> > /\/\
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> > [3]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
> > To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> > Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only
> > orders.
> > (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old prices (
> > [5]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been asked to
> > become a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to get the
> > BEST pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail now,
> > see the Corbeau website for current pricing.
> > But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my Pantera
> > friends.
> > So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and if we
> > can get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
> > Michael Shortt
> > --
> > Michael L. Shortt
> > Savannah, Georgia
> > [6]www.michaelshortt.com
> > [7]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > [8]912-232-9390
> > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act,
> > 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> > privileged. A If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby
> > notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of
> > this communication is strictly prohibited. A Please reply to the sender
> > that you have received this message in error, then delete it. A Thank
> > you
> >
> > --
> > Michael L. Shortt
> > Savannah, Georgia
> > [9]www.michaelshortt.com
> > [10]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > 912-232-9390
> > A
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> > 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> > 3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> > 5. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> > 6. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > 7. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> > 8. tel:912-232-9390
> > 9. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > 10. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 15:54:47 -0400
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>, Mark Tumbarello
> <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> Message-ID: <CF8D63E0.78693%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> The deletion of the logo was not extra as I recall.
>
> The holes were extra, but not much.
>
> I can't remember if they are partial leather or all vinyl. I'm not at home
> right now, so I can't look. I remember that full leather was much more
> expensive. They might even send them out to be recovered in leather.
>
> The biggest recommendation I can make to anyone is to try lots of seats.
> Sit in as many as possible. We are all built differently, and we have
> different preferences. I love the LG1 seats. There were many other seats
> that I didn't like.
> --
> Will
>
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 12:52 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> Will,
> They look very nice. Very similar to the seats I have now (except mine are
> nock offs sold as "Real Leather" that were in fact vinyl ! What are your
> seats upholstered in? Was the deletion of the Corbeau logo an extra cost
> option? Did you get the submarine hole added? I have noticed that Corbeau
> also offer an option the have the seat cushion height shaved an inch for
> $45. I think that would help with the height issue. I am looking at the
> Corbeau CR1 in black Leather )another nice thing about the corbeau leather
> option is that the entire seat (front and back) is upholstered in leather .
> Most people don't realize that even when you get leather upholstery from the
> factory in most makes only the seat faces are actually leather with the
> remainder of the seat in Vinyl.
>
> On a side note it always struck me as amusing that for years
> Mercedes Benz has been selling there expensive cars with upholstery called
> "MB Tex" which is a trade marked name for the Vinyl that Mercedes uses. I
> wonder how many of the deep pocketed MB buyers would have made the same
> choices if the knew that their new Mercedes had Vinyl interior ( Mercedes
> does offer leather as an option on the less expensive models but it is
> standard on their flagship s-class and even has two levels of napa leather
> upgrades) I must admit that MB MB Tex is the best vinyl interior I have ever
> experienced .
>
> Boyd
>
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Boyd ? the stock seats were comfortable, but they are too flat. I always had
> > a tough time in corners with my butt sliding all over the place.
> >
> > My Corbeau LG1s are a major upgrade to the stock seats. They do not look like
> > 90% of the online photos of Corbeau seats. They look like they belong in the
> > car. You can order Corbeau seats with a lot of options ? materials, with or
> > without harness holes, colors, etc. These options either make the seat look
> > like they were done by the factory or like they were done by a clown.
> >
> > There's a pic on this forum:
> > http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71547
> >
> > Except that my seats do not have the Corbeau logo, and they are all black.
> >
> > The LG1 seats feel very similar to my wife's 2013 Boxster. I don't know how
> > comfortable they will be on a long trip, but comfortable or not, the side
> > support will be worth it.
> >
> >
> > From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> > Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014 12:25 AM
> > To: Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> > Cc: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> > <detomaso at poca.com>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >
> > Will,
> > Did you think the stock Pantera seats were more comfortable? I find the add
> > support of the bolsters to make a huge difference in hard cornering. There is
> > a reason all modern performance cars use seats of similar design.I think your
> > seats look great in your car. Thanks for sharing your experience with me.
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those different
> >> fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have Recaro style
> >> seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or FIA sanctioned. I have six
> >> point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat isn't effective at maintaining the
> >> six point harness in the proper position . In the event of an accident it is
> >> extremely important (IMHO) to have a properly positioned submarine belt and
> >> in order for it to be placed in the correct position you must have have an
> >> anchor point that goes through the seat ( not wrapped forward around the
> >> front of the seat. Improper positioning of multi point harnesses (5 or 6) can
> >> result in serious injury or death. So despite your preference for the
> >> aesthetic appeal of the stock seat if you plan on doing more with your
> >> Pantera then car shows then it is essential that you optimize your car to
> >> provide the maximum in safety . Aside from the safety issues I happen to like
> >> (in fact prefer the look of a recaro style seat). If I wanted a Pantera
> >> solely for a car collection I would have kept it stock. Now I want seats that
> >> not only provide a more stable driving position (like a Recaro style seat)
> >> but one that is also FIA approved ( like an authentic Recaro, Corbeau or
> >> Sparco) and is built to a higher quality standard.
> >> Boyd
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
> >>> You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would take
> >>> place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest seat in a
> >>> pantera just looks wrong. Just an opinion
> >>>
> >>>> > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
> >>>> > From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> >>>> > To: boyd411 at gmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
> >>>
> >>>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body, and they
> >>>> > look proper in the Pantera.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or through a
> >>>> > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out, and order
> >>>> > local.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough rails and a
> >>>> > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>>> > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was wondering
> if
> >>>>> > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau seats that
> >>>>> > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and a fixed
> >>>>> > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like the
> >>>>> Recaro
> >>>>> > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may add some
> >>>>> much
> >>>>> > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style" seats
> >>>>> > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then the
> >>>>> "Fixed
> >>>>> > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a helmet.I
> >>>>> know
> >>>>> > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many high end
> >>>>> cars
> >>>>> > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in their
> >>>>> > > Panteras or other cars?
> >>>>> > > Thanks,
> >>>>> > > Boyd
> >>>>> > >_______________________________________________
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> >>>> >
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> >>
> >
>
>
>
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> The deletion of the logo was not extra as I recall.
> The holes were extra, but not much.
> I can't remember if they are partial leather or all vinyl. I'm not at
> home right now, so I can't look. I remember that full leather was much
> more expensive. They might even send them out to be recovered in
> leather.
> The biggest recommendation I can make to anyone is to try lots of
> seats. Sit in as many as possible. We are all built differently, and
> we have different preferences. I love the LG1 seats. There were many
> other seats that I didn't like.
> --
> Will
>
> From: Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 12:52 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <[2]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: Mark Tumbarello <[3]ollerabmut at msn.com>, "[4]detomaso at poca.com"
> <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> Will,
> They look very nice. Very similar to the seats I have now (except mine
> are nock offs sold as "Real Leather" that were in fact vinyl ! What are
> your seats upholstered in? Was the deletion of the Corbeau logo an
> extra cost option? Did you get the submarine hole added? I have noticed
> that Corbeau also offer an option the have the seat cushion height
> shaved an inch for $45. I think that would help with the height issue.
> I am looking at the Corbeau CR1 in black Leather )another nice thing
> about the corbeau leather option is that the entire seat (front and
> back) is upholstered in leather . Most people don't realize that even
> when you get leather upholstery from the factory in most makes only the
> seat faces are actually leather with the remainder of the seat in
> Vinyl.
> On a side note it always struck me as amusing that for years
> Mercedes Benz has been selling there expensive cars with upholstery
> called "MB Tex" which is a trade marked name for the Vinyl that
> Mercedes uses. I wonder how many of the deep pocketed MB buyers would
> have made the same choices if the knew that their new Mercedes had
> Vinyl interior ( Mercedes does offer leather as an option on the less
> expensive models but it is standard on their flagship s-class and even
> has two levels of napa leather upgrades) I must admit that MB MB Tex is
> the best vinyl interior I have ever experienced .
> Boyd
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Will Kooiman
> <[6]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Boyd - the stock seats were comfortable, but they are too flat. I
> always had a tough time in corners with my butt sliding all over the
> place.
> My Corbeau LG1s are a major upgrade to the stock seats. They do not
> look like 90% of the online photos of Corbeau seats. They look like
> they belong in the car. You can order Corbeau seats with a lot of
> options - materials, with or without harness holes, colors, etc. These
> options either make the seat look like they were done by the factory or
> like they were done by a clown.
> There's a pic on this forum:
> [7]http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71547
> Except that my seats do not have the Corbeau logo, and they are all
> black.
> The LG1 seats feel very similar to my wife's 2013 Boxster. I don't
> know how comfortable they will be on a long trip, but comfortable or
> not, the side support will be worth it.
> From: Boyd Casey <[8]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014 12:25 AM
> To: Mark Tumbarello <[9]ollerabmut at msn.com>
> Cc: Will Kooiman <[10]will.kooiman at gmail.com>, "[11]detomaso at poca.com"
> <[12]detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> Will,
> Did you think the stock Pantera seats were more comfortable? I find the
> add support of the bolsters to make a huge difference in hard
> cornering. There is a reason all modern performance cars use seats of
> similar design.I think your seats look great in your car. Thanks for
> sharing your experience with me.
> Boyd
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Boyd Casey <[13]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those different
> fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have Recaro
> style seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or FIA sanctioned.
> I have six point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat isn't effective at
> maintaining the six point harness in the proper position . In the event
> of an accident it is extremely important (IMHO) to have a properly
> positioned submarine belt and in order for it to be placed in the
> correct position you must have have an anchor point that goes through
> the seat ( not wrapped forward around the front of the seat. Improper
> positioning of multi point harnesses (5 or 6) can result in serious
> injury or death. So despite your preference for the aesthetic appeal of
> the stock seat if you plan on doing more with your Pantera then car
> shows then it is essential that you optimize your car to provide the
> maximum in safety . Aside from the safety issues I happen to like (in
> fact prefer the look of a recaro style seat). If I wanted a Pantera
> solely for a car collection I would have kept it stock. Now I want
> seats that not only provide a more stable driving position (like a
> Recaro style seat) but one that is also FIA approved ( like an
> authentic Recaro, Corbeau or Sparco) and is built to a higher quality
> standard.
> Boyd
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello
> <[14]ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
>
> You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would take
> place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest seat in a
> pantera just looks wrong. Just an opinion
>
> > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
> > From: [15]will.kooiman at gmail.com
> > To: [16]boyd411 at gmail.com; [17]detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >
> > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body, and they
> > look proper in the Pantera.
> >
> > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
> >
> > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or
> through a
> > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out, and
> order
> > local.
> >
> > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
> >
> > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough rails and
> a
> > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
> >
> > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
> >
> > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[18]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was
> wondering if
> > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau seats that
> > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and a fixed
> > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like the
> Recaro
> > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may add some
> much
> > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style" seats
> > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then the
> "Fixed
> > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a helmet.I
> know
> > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many high end
> cars
> > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in their
> > > Panteras or other cars?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Boyd
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >
> > >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> > >
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> >
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> References
>
> 1. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 2. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 3. mailto:ollerabmut at msn.com
> 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 6. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 7. http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71547
> 8. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 9. mailto:ollerabmut at msn.com
> 10. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 11. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 12. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 13. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 14. mailto:ollerabmut at msn.com
> 15. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 16. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 17. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 18. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 19. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 20. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:21:44 -0700
> From: "Ron" <ron at teamecc.com>
> To: <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Sniping
> Message-ID: <5DBCC733FC3B4A04A020CD0CD78AA197 at Ron>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Maybe Mark and Boyd could keep their personal Sniping at each
> other off the Forum site. Just my opinion.
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> Maybe Mark and Boyd could keep their personal Sniping at each
>
> other off the Forum site. Just my opinion.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 20:30:17 +0000 (GMT)
> From: cengles at cox.net
> To: kenn_green at yahoo.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID: <17c417a.9bf05.145ce1472d3.Webtop.0 at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
>
> Dear Ken,
>
>
> Ach dul Lieber! My mistake. I said Rollmaster and I
> meant Romac. It is a good balancer. I know they make one for the
> Cleveland. The one I had did have four holes and bolted right up with
> all the other parts. I don't recall any diameter issues, although the
> aftermarket balancers can be a larger than stock and require a different
> timing marker and/or a bit of gentle grinding on the lower aspect of the
> water pump in the event of "interference" between the parts.
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Ken Green wrote:
>
>
> I thought people liked the Romac damper:
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
>
>
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
> Are there diameter issues, 3 bolt vs 4 bolt pattern, etc?
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
>
>
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
> Ken
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
>
>
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
>
>
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
>
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
> From: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
>
> Dear Boyd,
>
> There are lots of options. I would not recommend the
> Rattler type balancer, although it might do well in a stock or mildly
> modified application. You could simply get a Ford replacement or
> equivalent aftermarket stock type replacement if economy is paramount.
>
> The best ones that I am familiar with are ATI, BHJ and
> Rollmaster (IIRC). I recently bought a BHJ harmonic balancer and it
> was a little less than $300. ATI and Rollmaster are in the same range I
> believe.
>
> I suppose that in terms of bang for the buck a stock
> type replacement would be adequate for most uses. If your mildly
> modified engine gets flogged, then it I would recommend one of the above
> balancers. They're relatively expensive for a boring engine part, but a
> good balancer.......is still boring, but better in the long run for hipo
> engines.
>
> FWIW, Chuck Engles
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Boyd Casey wrote:
>
> > I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> > wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure
> > if i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is
> > the consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera
> > with 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to
> > spend more money then is necessary , but I also don't want junk. Any
> > pointers or suggestions? Thanks, Boyd
> >
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> Dear Ken,
>
> Ach dul Lieber! My mistake. I said Rollmaster and I
> meant Romac. It is a good balancer. I know they make one for the
> Cleveland. The one I had did have four holes and bolted right up with
> all the other parts. I don't recall any diameter issues, although the
> aftermarket balancers can be a larger than stock and require a
> different timing marker and/or a bit of gentle grinding on the lower
> aspect of the water pump in the event of "interference" between the
> parts.
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Ken Green wrote:
>
>
>
> I thought people liked the Romac damper:
>
> [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Clevelan
> d-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659
>
> Are there diameter issues, 3 bolt vs 4 bolt pattern, etc?
>
> Ken
>
> From: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>
>
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:00 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
>
> Dear Boyd,
>
> There are lots of options. I would not recommend the
>
> Rattler type balancer, although it might do well in a stock or mildly
>
> modified application. You could simply get a Ford replacement or
>
> equivalent aftermarket stock type replacement if economy is paramount.
>
> The best ones that I am familiar with are ATI, BHJ and
>
> Rollmaster (IIRC). I recently bought a BHJ harmonic balancer and it
>
> was a little less than $300. ATI and Rollmaster are in the same range
> I
>
> believe.
>
> I suppose that in terms of bang for the buck a stock
>
> type replacement would be adequate for most uses. If your mildly
>
> modified engine gets flogged, then it I would recommend one of the
> above
>
> balancers. They're relatively expensive for a boring engine part, but
> a
>
> good balancer.......is still boring, but better in the long run for
> hipo
>
> engines.
>
> FWIW, Chuck Engles
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Boyd Casey wrote:
>
> > I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
>
> > wide
>
> > range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if i
>
> > tried
>
> > I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> consensus
>
> > as
>
> > far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351
>
> > Cleveland
>
> > that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money then
>
> > is
>
> > necessary , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or suggestions?
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Boyd
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ------------------------------
>
> >
>
> > _______________________________________________
>
> >
>
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>
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>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 14:57:25 -0700
> From: Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, Boyd Casey
> <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> Message-ID: <BLU170-W42CE8CE1E1AA753D080ECDD24C0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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> Here's what I should have said, Nice seats check these out http://classiccarseats.com. I like the Nurbergring syle, I believe they were used in some early panteras
>
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 15:54:47 -0400
> From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com; ollerabmut at msn.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> The deletion of the logo was not extra as I recall.
>
> The holes were extra, but not much.
>
> I can't remember if they are partial leather or all vinyl. I'm not at home
> right now, so I can't look. I remember that full leather was much more
> expensive. They might even send them out to be recovered in leather.
>
> The biggest recommendation I can make to anyone is to try lots of seats.
> Sit in as many as possible. We are all built differently, and we have
> different preferences. I love the LG1 seats. There were many other seats
> that I didn't like.
> --
> Will
>
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 12:52 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> Will,
> They look very nice. Very similar to the seats I have now (except mine are
> nock offs sold as "Real Leather" that were in fact vinyl ! What are your
> seats upholstered in? Was the deletion of the Corbeau logo an extra cost
> option? Did you get the submarine hole added? I have noticed that Corbeau
> also offer an option the have the seat cushion height shaved an inch for
> $45. I think that would help with the height issue. I am looking at the
> Corbeau CR1 in black Leather )another nice thing about the corbeau leather
> option is that the entire seat (front and back) is upholstered in leather .
> Most people don't realize that even when you get leather upholstery from the
> factory in most makes only the seat faces are actually leather with the
> remainder of the seat in Vinyl.
>
> On a side note it always struck me as amusing that for years
> Mercedes Benz has been selling there expensive cars with upholstery called
> "MB Tex" which is a trade marked name for the Vinyl that Mercedes uses. I
> wonder how many of the deep pocketed MB buyers would have made the same
> choices if the knew that their new Mercedes had Vinyl interior ( Mercedes
> does offer leather as an option on the less expensive models but it is
> standard on their flagship s-class and even has two levels of napa leather
> upgrades) I must admit that MB MB Tex is the best vinyl interior I have ever
> experienced .
>
> Boyd
>
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Boyd ? the stock seats were comfortable, but they are too flat. I always had
> > a tough time in corners with my butt sliding all over the place.
> >
> > My Corbeau LG1s are a major upgrade to the stock seats. They do not look like
> > 90% of the online photos of Corbeau seats. They look like they belong in the
> > car. You can order Corbeau seats with a lot of options ? materials, with or
> > without harness holes, colors, etc. These options either make the seat look
> > like they were done by the factory or like they were done by a clown.
> >
> > There's a pic on this forum:
> > http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71547
> >
> > Except that my seats do not have the Corbeau logo, and they are all black.
> >
> > The LG1 seats feel very similar to my wife's 2013 Boxster. I don't know how
> > comfortable they will be on a long trip, but comfortable or not, the side
> > support will be worth it.
> >
> >
> > From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> > Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014 12:25 AM
> > To: Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> > Cc: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> > <detomaso at poca.com>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >
> > Will,
> > Did you think the stock Pantera seats were more comfortable? I find the add
> > support of the bolsters to make a huge difference in hard cornering. There is
> > a reason all modern performance cars use seats of similar design.I think your
> > seats look great in your car. Thanks for sharing your experience with me.
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those different
> >> fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have Recaro style
> >> seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or FIA sanctioned. I have six
> >> point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat isn't effective at maintaining the
> >> six point harness in the proper position . In the event of an accident it is
> >> extremely important (IMHO) to have a properly positioned submarine belt and
> >> in order for it to be placed in the correct position you must have have an
> >> anchor point that goes through the seat ( not wrapped forward around the
> >> front of the seat. Improper positioning of multi point harnesses (5 or 6) can
> >> result in serious injury or death. So despite your preference for the
> >> aesthetic appeal of the stock seat if you plan on doing more with your
> >> Pantera then car shows then it is essential that you optimize your car to
> >> provide the maximum in safety . Aside from the safety issues I happen to like
> >> (in fact prefer the look of a recaro style seat). If I wanted a Pantera
> >> solely for a car collection I would have kept it stock. Now I want seats that
> >> not only provide a more stable driving position (like a Recaro style seat)
> >> but one that is also FIA approved ( like an authentic Recaro, Corbeau or
> >> Sparco) and is built to a higher quality standard.
> >> Boyd
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
> >>> You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would take
> >>> place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest seat in a
> >>> pantera just looks wrong. Just an opinion
> >>>
> >>>> > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
> >>>> > From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> >>>> > To: boyd411 at gmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
> >>>
> >>>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body, and they
> >>>> > look proper in the Pantera.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or through a
> >>>> > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out, and order
> >>>> > local.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough rails and a
> >>>> > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>>> > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was wondering
> if
> >>>>> > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau seats that
> >>>>> > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and a fixed
> >>>>> > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like the
> >>>>> Recaro
> >>>>> > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may add some
> >>>>> much
> >>>>> > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style" seats
> >>>>> > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then the
> >>>>> "Fixed
> >>>>> > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a helmet.I
> >>>>> know
> >>>>> > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many high end
> >>>>> cars
> >>>>> > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in their
> >>>>> > > Panteras or other cars?
> >>>>> > > Thanks,
> >>>>> > > Boyd
> >>>>> > >_______________________________________________
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> >>>>> > >DeTomaso mailing list
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> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
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> >>>> >
> >>>> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> >>
> >
>
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>
>
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> Here's what I should have said, Nice seats check these out
> [1]http://classiccarseats.com. I like the Nurbergring syle, I believe
> they were used in some early panteras
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 15:54:47 -0400
> From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com; ollerabmut at msn.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> The deletion of the logo was not extra as I recall.
>
> The holes were extra, but not much.
>
> I can't remember if they are partial leather or all vinyl. I'm not at home
> right now, so I can't look. I remember that full leather was much more
> expensive. They might even send them out to be recovered in leather.
>
> The biggest recommendation I can make to anyone is to try lots of seats.
> Sit in as many as possible. We are all built differently, and we have
> different preferences. I love the LG1 seats. There were many other seats
> that I didn't like.
> --
> Will
>
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 12:52 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> Will,
> They look very nice. Very similar to the seats I have now (except mine are
> nock offs sold as "Real Leather" that were in fact vinyl ! What are your
> seats upholstered in? Was the deletion of the Corbeau logo an extra cost
> option? Did you get the submarine hole added? I have noticed that Corbeau
> also offer an option the have the seat cushion height shaved an inch for
> $45. I think that would help with the height issue. I am looking at the
> Corbeau CR1 in black Leather )another nice thing about the corbeau leather
> option is that the entire seat (front and back) is upholstered in leather .
> Most people don't realize that even when you get leather upholstery from the
> factory in most makes only the seat faces are actually leather with the
> remainder of the seat in Vinyl.
>
> On a side note it always struck me as amusing that for years
> Mercedes Benz has been selling there expensive cars with upholstery called
> "MB Tex" which is a trade marked name for the Vinyl that Mercedes uses. I
> wonder how many of the deep pocketed MB buyers would have made the same
> choices if the knew that their new Mercedes had Vinyl interior ( Mercedes
> does offer leather as an option on the less expensive models but it is
> standard on their flagship s-class and even has two levels of napa leather
> upgrades) I must admit that MB MB Tex is the best vinyl interior I have ever
> experienced .
>
> Boyd
>
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Boyd the stock seats were comfortable, but they are too flat. I always had
> > a tough time in corners with my butt sliding all over the place.
> >
> > My Corbeau LG1s are a major upgrade to the stock seats. They do not look like
> > 90% of the online photos of Corbeau seats. They look like they belong in the
> > car. You can order Corbeau seats with a lot of options materials, with or
> > without harness holes, colors, etc. These options either make the seat look
> > like they were done by the factory or like they were done by a clown.
> >
> > There's a pic on this forum:
> > [2]http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71547
> >
> > Except that my seats do not have the Corbeau logo, and they are all black.
> >
> > The LG1 seats feel very similar to my wife's 2013 Boxster. I don't know how
> > comfortable they will be on a long trip, but comfortable or not, the side
> > support will be worth it.
> >
> >
> > From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> > Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014 12:25 AM
> > To: Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> > Cc: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> > <detomaso at poca.com>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >
> > Will,
> > Did you think the stock Pantera seats were more comfortable? I find the add
> > support of the bolsters to make a huge difference in hard cornering. There is
> > a reason all modern performance cars use seats of similar design.I think your
> > seats look great in your car. Thanks for sharing your experience with me.
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those different
> >> fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have Recaro style
> >> seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or FIA sanctioned. I have six
> >> point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat isn't effective at maintaining the
> >> six point harness in the proper position . In the event of an accident it is
> >> extremely important (IMHO) to have a properly positioned submarine belt and
> >> in order for it to be placed in the correct position you must have have an
> >> anchor point that goes through the seat ( not wrapped forward around the
> >> front of the seat. Improper positioning of multi point harnesses (5 or 6) can
> >> result in serious injury or death. So despite your preference for the
> >> aesthetic appeal of the stock seat if you plan on doing more with your
> >> Pantera then car shows then it is essential that you optimize your car to
> >> provide the maximum in safety . Aside from the safety issues I happen to like
> >> (in fact prefer the look of a recaro style seat). If I wanted a Pantera
> >> solely for a car collection I would have kept it stock. Now I want seats that
> >> not only provide a more stable driving position (like a Recaro style seat)
> >> but one that is also FIA approved ( like an authentic Recaro, Corbeau or
> >> Sparco) and is built to a higher quality standard.
> >> Boyd
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
> >>> You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would take
> >>> place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest seat in a
> >>> pantera just looks wrong. Just an opinion
> >>>
> >>>> > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
> >>>> > From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> >>>> > To: boyd411 at gmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
> >>>
> >>>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body, and they
> >>>> > look proper in the Pantera.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or through a
> >>>> > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out, and order
> >>>> > local.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough rails and a
> >>>> > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>>> > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was wondering
> if
> >>>>> > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau seats that
> >>>>> > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and a fixed
> >>>>> > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like the
> >>>>> Recaro
> >>>>> > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may add some
> >>>>> much
> >>>>> > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style" seats
> >>>>> > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then the
> >>>>> "Fixed
> >>>>> > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a helmet.I
> >>>>> know
> >>>>> > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many high end
> >>>>> cars
> >>>>> > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in their
> >>>>> > > Panteras or other cars?
> >>>>> > > Thanks,
> >>>>> > > Boyd
> >>>>> > >_______________________________________________
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > >DeTomaso mailing list
> >>>>> > >DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>> > >[3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > _______________________________________________
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>> >
> >>>> > DeTomaso mailing list
> >>>> > DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>> > [4]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum Managed
> by POCA DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at poca.com
> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> References
>
> 1. http://classiccarseats.com/
> 2. http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71547
> 3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 4. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:59:20 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Tom Shinrock <tmshinro at aol.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Ride
> Message-ID: <8D136C466E7CCD8-F7C-9B47 at webmail-va034.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Anybody have an empty seat that they would be willing share when going to the various fun rally events?
>
> This is my third fun rally but the first time that I won't have a car. I'm trying to decide if I need to rent a car but it would be more fun to ride in a Pantera. I just don't know how tough it would be to find a ride.
>
> I welcome opinions on what I should do.
>
> Tom
> 5186
>
>
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> Anybody have an empty seat that they would be willing share when going
> to the various fun rally events?
> This is my third fun rally but the first time that I won't have a car.
> I'm trying to decide if I need to rent a car but it would be more fun
> to ride in a Pantera. I just don't know how tough it would be to find
> a ride.
> I welcome opinions on what I should do.
> Tom
> 5186
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 15:02:07 -0700
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: Tom Shinrock <tmshinro at aol.com>, Pantera list serve
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ride
> Message-ID: <SNT146-W90B42A86212FF27B5B034BBC4C0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> My family will be with me through Thursday, but I'll be on my own when they fly out on Friday, so I'll have a seat open Friday and Saturday.
> Sincerely,
> Chris
>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> From: tmshinro at aol.com
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:59:20 -0400
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Ride
>
> Anybody have an empty seat that they would be willing share when going to the various fun rally events?
>
> This is my third fun rally but the first time that I won't have a car. I'm trying to decide if I need to rent a car but it would be more fun to ride in a Pantera. I just don't know how tough it would be to find a ride.
>
> I welcome opinions on what I should do.
>
> Tom
> 5186
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
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> DeTomaso at poca.com
> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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> My family will be with me through Thursday, but I'll be on my own when
> they fly out on Friday, so I'll have a seat open Friday and Saturday.
> Sincerely,
> Chris
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> From: tmshinro at aol.com
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:59:20 -0400
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Ride
> Anybody have an empty seat that they would be willing share when going to the va
> rious fun rally events?
>
> This is my third fun rally but the first time that I won't have a car. I'm tryi
> ng to decide if I need to rent a car but it would be more fun to ride in a Pante
> ra. I just don't know how tough it would be to find a ride.
>
> I welcome opinions on what I should do.
>
> Tom
> 5186
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum Managed
> by POCA DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at poca.com
> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 07:01:25 -0400
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, <boyd411 at gmail.com>, <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> Message-ID: <CF8CE6DA.A791%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I tried on Friday, but it was over the 1.5MB limit.
>
> Here it is again at 1.4MB.
>
> The harness holes are even with the location of the harness bar.
>
> The seats aren't lined up correctly because they're not attached yet. I had
> the floor pans dropped, but I can't attach the seats the way they were done.
> I'm trying to decide how to handle that one.
>
> From: <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Date: Sunday, May 4, 2014 11:38 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, <boyd411 at gmail.com>,
> <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> Cc: <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
>
> In a message dated 5/4/14 20 08 11, will.kooiman at gmail.com writes:
>
>
> >
> > Except that my seats do not have the Corbeau logo, and they are all black.
>
>
> >>>Can you post a pic of your seats in your car?
>
> Mike
>
>
> -------------- next part --------------
> I tried on Friday, but it was over the 1.5MB limit.
>
> Here it is again at 1.4MB.
>
> The harness holes are even with the location of the harness bar.
>
> The seats aren't lined up correctly because they're not attached yet.
> I had the floor pans dropped, but I can't attach the seats the way they
> were done. I'm trying to decide how to handle that one.
>
> From: <[1]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Date: Sunday, May 4, 2014 11:38 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <[2]will.kooiman at gmail.com>, <[3]boyd411 at gmail.com>,
> <[4]ollerabmut at msn.com>
> Cc: <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> In a message dated 5/4/14 20 08 11, [6]will.kooiman at gmail.com writes:
>
> Except that my seats do not have the Corbeau logo, and they are all
> black.
>
> >>>Can you post a pic of your seats in your car?
> Mike
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
> 2. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 3. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 4. mailto:ollerabmut at msn.com
> 5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 6. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 19:21:23 -0400
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Ron <ron at teamecc.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sniping
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> You are reintroducing a non issue. Mark and I have dropped the pursuit of
> our difference of opinion. Respectfully I suggest you do the same.
> Boyd
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Ron <ron at teamecc.com> wrote:
>
> > Maybe Mark and Boyd could keep their personal Sniping at each
> >
> > other off the Forum site. Just my opinion.
> >
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> You are reintroducing a non issue. Mark and I have dropped the pursuit
> of our difference of opinion. Respectfully I suggest you do the same.
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Ron <[1]ron at teamecc.com> wrote:
>
> A A A Maybe Mark and Boyd could keep their personal Sniping at
> each
> A A other off the Forum site. Just my opinion.
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> 1. mailto:ron at teamecc.com
> 2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 19:24:42 -0400
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Mirril M. McMullen" <mirrilm at earthlink.net>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>, "michael at michaelshortt.com"
> <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> Message-ID:
> <CALsQ=cve3C7FsTX809osV7_WQ_eVMu9mzkKEBuvhCR+RxP6pzw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> It won't help you Will cause you have already purchased your seats , but on
> the seats I am considering (The CR1 formerly the carrera) is available with
> an additional 1" shaved off the bottom for an additional $49.00.
> Boyd
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > You want brackets for a 911. It is very flat, and the 911 has a flat
> > floor pan, which matches the Pantera.
> >
> > But it might not be low enough. That's what I'm dealing with right now.
> > My seat isn't quite low enough, but I haven't tried with it actually
> > bolted to the bracket. I need to spend some time mocking it up to see
> > what needs to move.
> >
> > But like I said, if you want a bracket - check out the one for a 911.
> > Otherwise, bolt it to the floor.
> > --
> > Will
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/5/14 2:51 PM, "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have attached the bracket guide.
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
> > > <[1]mirrilm at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Michael,
> > > I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that
> > > Corbeau make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the
> > > seats are a good value.
> > > I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if there
> > > was a Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile) for
> > > the Pantera.
> > > Let us know your thoughts.
> > > #6859 WAYBAC
> > > /\/\
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> > > [3]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
> > > To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> > > Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only
> > > orders.
> > > (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old prices (
> > > [5]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been asked to
> > > become a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to get the
> > > BEST pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail now,
> > > see the Corbeau website for current pricing.
> > > But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my Pantera
> > > friends.
> > > So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and if we
> > > can get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
> > > Michael Shortt
> > > --
> > > Michael L. Shortt
> > > Savannah, Georgia
> > > [6]www.michaelshortt.com
> > > [7]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > > [8]912-232-9390
> > > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act,
> > > 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> > > privileged. A If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby
> > > notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of
> > > this communication is strictly prohibited. A Please reply to the sender
> > > that you have received this message in error, then delete it. A Thank
> > > you
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael L. Shortt
> > > Savannah, Georgia
> > > [9]www.michaelshortt.com
> > > [10]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > > 912-232-9390
> > > A
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> > > communication is strictly prohibited.A Please reply to the sender that
> > > you
> > > have received this message in error, then delete it.A Thank you
> > >
> > >References
> > >
> > > 1. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> > > 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> > > 3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> > > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> > > 5. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> > > 6. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > > 7. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> > > 8. tel:912-232-9390
> > > 9. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > > 10. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
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> It won't help you Will cause you have already purchased your seats ,
> but on the seats I am considering (The CR1 formerly the carrera) is
> available with an additional 1" shaved off the bottom A for an
> additional $49.00.
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Will Kooiman
> <[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You want brackets for a 911. A It is very flat, and the 911 has a
> flat
> floor pan, which matches the Pantera.
> But it might not be low enough. A That's what I'm dealing with right
> now.
> My seat isn't quite low enough, but I haven't tried with it actually
> bolted to the bracket. A I need to spend some time mocking it up to
> see
> what needs to move.
> But like I said, if you want a bracket - check out the one for a
> 911.
> Otherwise, bolt it to the floor.
> --
> Will
> On 5/5/14 2:51 PM, "[2]michael at michaelshortt.com"
> <[3]michael at michaelshortt.com>
> wrote:
>
> > A I have attached the bracket guide.
> >
> > A On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
> > A <[1][4]mirrilm at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > A A Michael,
> > A A I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that
> > A A Corbeau make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the
> > A A seats are a good value.
> > A A I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if
> there
> > A A was a Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile)
> for
> > A A the Pantera.
> > A A Let us know your thoughts.
> > A A #6859 WAYBAC
> > A A /\/\
> >
> > A -----Original Message-----
> > A From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2][5]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > A [3][6]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
> > A To: [4][7]detomaso at poca.com
> > A Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> > A Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only
> > A orders.
> > A (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old prices
> (
> > A [5][8]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been
> asked to
> > A become a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to
> get the
> > A BEST pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail
> now,
> > A see the Corbeau website for current pricing.
> > A But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my
> Pantera
> > A friends.
> > A So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and if
> we
> > A can get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
> > A Michael Shortt
> > A --
> > A Michael L. Shortt
> > A Savannah, Georgia
> > A [6][9]www.michaelshortt.com
> > A [7][10]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A [8]912-232-9390
> > A This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
> Act,
> > A 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> > A privileged. A If you are not the intended recipient, you are
> hereby
> > A notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or
> copying of
> > A this communication is strictly prohibited. A Please reply to the
> sender
> > A that you have received this message in error, then delete it. A
> Thank
> > A you
> >
> > A --
> > A Michael L. Shortt
> > A Savannah, Georgia
> > A [9][11]www.michaelshortt.com
> > A [10][12]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A [13]912-232-9390
> > A A
> > A This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
> > A Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> > A privileged.A A If you are not the intended recipient, you are
> hereby
> > A notified
> > A that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this
> > A communication is strictly prohibited.A A Please reply to the
> sender that
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> >
> >References
> >
> > A 1. mailto:[14]mirrilm at earthlink.net
> > A 2. mailto:[15]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> > A 3. mailto:[16]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A 4. mailto:[17]detomaso at poca.com
> > A 5. [18]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> > A 6. [19]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > A 7. mailto:[20]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A 8. tel:[21]912-232-9390
> > A 9. [22]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > A 10. mailto:[23]michael at michaelshortt.com
>
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> References
>
> 1. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 2. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 4. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 6. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 7. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 8. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> 9. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 10. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 11. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 12. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 13. tel:912-232-9390
> 14. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 15. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 16. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 17. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 18. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> 19. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 20. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 21. tel:912-232-9390
> 22. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 23. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 24. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 25. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 26. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 27. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 19:29:20 -0400
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Mirril M. McMullen" <mirrilm at earthlink.net>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>, "michael at michaelshortt.com"
> <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> Message-ID:
> <CALsQ=csSphuG=0EuaRr=b1z-U3vmPebmLVWzTC2Sm6e3bTLmdg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Corbeau has a flat bracket listed under their" Universal fit " brackets.
> Here is a link:Corbeau Universal mount Flat
> bracket<http://www.racing-seats-usa.com/universal.html>
>
> Hope this helps.
> Boyd
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It won't help you Will cause you have already purchased your seats , but
> > on the seats I am considering (The CR1 formerly the carrera) is available
> > with an additional 1" shaved off the bottom for an additional $49.00.
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> You want brackets for a 911. It is very flat, and the 911 has a flat
> >> floor pan, which matches the Pantera.
> >>
> >> But it might not be low enough. That's what I'm dealing with right now.
> >> My seat isn't quite low enough, but I haven't tried with it actually
> >> bolted to the bracket. I need to spend some time mocking it up to see
> >> what needs to move.
> >>
> >> But like I said, if you want a bracket - check out the one for a 911.
> >> Otherwise, bolt it to the floor.
> >> --
> >> Will
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/5/14 2:51 PM, "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com
> >> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have attached the bracket guide.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
> >> > <[1]mirrilm at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Michael,
> >> > I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that
> >> > Corbeau make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the
> >> > seats are a good value.
> >> > I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if there
> >> > was a Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile) for
> >> > the Pantera.
> >> > Let us know your thoughts.
> >> > #6859 WAYBAC
> >> > /\/\
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> >> > [3]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
> >> > To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> >> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> >> > Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only
> >> > orders.
> >> > (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old prices (
> >> > [5]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been asked to
> >> > become a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to get
> >> the
> >> > BEST pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail now,
> >> > see the Corbeau website for current pricing.
> >> > But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my Pantera
> >> > friends.
> >> > So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and if we
> >> > can get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
> >> > Michael Shortt
> >> > --
> >> > Michael L. Shortt
> >> > Savannah, Georgia
> >> > [6]www.michaelshortt.com
> >> > [7]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >> > [8]912-232-9390
> >> > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act,
> >> > 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> >> > privileged. A If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby
> >> > notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of
> >> > this communication is strictly prohibited. A Please reply to the
> >> sender
> >> > that you have received this message in error, then delete it. A Thank
> >> > you
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Michael L. Shortt
> >> > Savannah, Georgia
> >> > [9]www.michaelshortt.com
> >> > [10]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >> > 912-232-9390
> >> > A
> >> > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
> >> > Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> >> > privileged.A If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby
> >> > notified
> >> > that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this
> >> > communication is strictly prohibited.A Please reply to the sender
> >> that
> >> > you
> >> > have received this message in error, then delete it.A Thank you
> >> >
> >> >References
> >> >
> >> > 1. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> >> > 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> >> > 3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >> > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >> > 5. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> >> > 6. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >> > 7. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >> > 8. tel:912-232-9390
> >> > 9. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >> > 10. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >> >_______________________________________________
> >> >
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> -------------- next part --------------
> Corbeau has a flat bracket listed under their" Universal fit "
> brackets. Here is a link:[1]Corbeau Universal mount Flat bracket
> Hope this helps.
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Boyd Casey <[2]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> It won't help you Will cause you have already purchased your seats ,
> but on the seats I am considering (The CR1 formerly the carrera) is
> available with an additional 1" shaved off the bottom A for an
> additional $49.00.
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Will Kooiman
> <[3]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You want brackets for a 911. A It is very flat, and the 911 has a
> flat
> floor pan, which matches the Pantera.
> But it might not be low enough. A That's what I'm dealing with right
> now.
> My seat isn't quite low enough, but I haven't tried with it actually
> bolted to the bracket. A I need to spend some time mocking it up to
> see
> what needs to move.
> But like I said, if you want a bracket - check out the one for a
> 911.
> Otherwise, bolt it to the floor.
> --
> Will
> On 5/5/14 2:51 PM, "[4]michael at michaelshortt.com"
> <[5]michael at michaelshortt.com>
> wrote:
>
> > A I have attached the bracket guide.
> >
> > A On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
> > A <[1][6]mirrilm at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > A A Michael,
> > A A I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that
> > A A Corbeau make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the
> > A A seats are a good value.
> > A A I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if
> there
> > A A was a Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile)
> for
> > A A the Pantera.
> > A A Let us know your thoughts.
> > A A #6859 WAYBAC
> > A A /\/\
> >
> > A -----Original Message-----
> > A From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2][7]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > A [3][8]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
> > A To: [4][9]detomaso at poca.com
> > A Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> > A Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only
> > A orders.
> > A (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old prices
> (
> > A [5][10]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been
> asked to
> > A become a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to
> get the
> > A BEST pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail
> now,
> > A see the Corbeau website for current pricing.
> > A But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my
> Pantera
> > A friends.
> > A So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and if
> we
> > A can get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
> > A Michael Shortt
> > A --
> > A Michael L. Shortt
> > A Savannah, Georgia
> > A [6][11]www.michaelshortt.com
> > A [7][12]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A [8]912-232-9390
> > A This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
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> > A this communication is strictly prohibited. A Please reply to the
> sender
> > A that you have received this message in error, then delete it. A
> Thank
> > A you
> >
> > A --
> > A Michael L. Shortt
> > A Savannah, Georgia
> > A [9][13]www.michaelshortt.com
> > A [10][14]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A [15]912-232-9390
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> >
> >References
> >
> > A 1. mailto:[16]mirrilm at earthlink.net
> > A 2. mailto:[17]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> > A 3. mailto:[18]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A 4. mailto:[19]detomaso at poca.com
> > A 5. [20]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> > A 6. [21]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > A 7. mailto:[22]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A 8. tel:[23]912-232-9390
> > A 9. [24]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > A 10. mailto:[25]michael at michaelshortt.com
>
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> References
>
> 1. http://www.racing-seats-usa.com/universal.html
> 2. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 3. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 4. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 5. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 6. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 7. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 8. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 10. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> 11. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 12. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 13. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 14. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 15. tel:912-232-9390
> 16. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 17. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 18. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 19. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 20. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> 21. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 22. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 23. tel:912-232-9390
> 24. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 25. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 26. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 27. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 28. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 29. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 18:56:57 -0700
> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> To: "'DeTomaso Mail List'" <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Cc: 'John Buckman' <jb841 at icloud.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA Fun Rally Raffle - Chapter and Individual
> Donations
> Message-ID: <015701cf68ce$76cbc090$646341b0$@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Last call! All aboard!!
>
> If your POCA Chapter or you individually have any items you wish to donate
> to the POCA Fun Rally, and you need to ship them ahead so you don't have to
> lug them with you, please have them delivered to John Buckman in San Diego
> no later than Friday, May 23rd. The Fun Rally comes right on the heels of
> the holiday weekend, and I'd hate for anyone's donation to get lost in the
> confusion.
>
> Please ship to:
> POCA Fun Rally Raffle
> C/O John Buckman
> 738 Crest View Road
> Vista, CA 92081
> 760-420-4036
>
> Please contact John to let him know what is coming so he can keep an
> inventory. Sorry I'm not going to see all of you at this years' Rally to
> say thank you in person, but my wife and I will be in Peru touring the Machu
> Pichu and the Sacred Valley of the Incas the same week. Darn . . .
>
> Our sincerest thanks!
> Mike Thomas
> VP, POCA
> VP, Panteras Northwest
> Yellow '74 #6328
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 22:07:33 -0400
> From: Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> To: 'Boyd Casey' <boyd411 at gmail.com>, detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID: <029d01cf68cf$f1d23d40$d576b7c0$@optonline.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic balancer. Like the one from Pioneer for $176. See summit racing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd Casey
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
>
> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money then is necessary , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Boyd
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 22:27:08 -0400
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID:
> <CALsQ=csPX_GYe2iYgBp_qij0r=cA9DGvo2cCdmGVdmSCpEbJVw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge of them
> is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external balanced ,
> SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what do they mean as
> far as performance or other factors that would be important ?
> Boyd
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>wrote:
>
> > I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> > balancer. Like the one from Pioneer for $176. See summit racing.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd Casey
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> >
> > I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a wide
> > range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if i tried
> > I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the consensus as
> > far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351 Cleveland
> > that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money then is
> > necessary , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or suggestions?
> > Thanks,
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
> The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge of
> them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
> balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what
> do they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> important ?
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> <[1]tonydigi at optonline.net> wrote:
>
> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> balancer. A Like the one from Pioneer for $176. A See summit racing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
> Casey
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> To: [3]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if
> i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with
> 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more
> money then is necessary A , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or
> suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Boyd
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 22:36:58 -0400
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID:
> <CALsQ=cuH_+BTHz+zjVWSFRkJ9crB81uubJEF0Z4tesQFhk7r7g at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I just did some reading up on harmonic balancers and the post i read said
> the the balancer had to be press fit onto the crank. Can this be done with
> the motor in the car?
> Boyd
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge of
> > them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
> > balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what do
> > they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be important ?
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>wrote:
> >
> >> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> >> balancer. Like the one from Pioneer for $176. See summit racing.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd Casey
> >> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> >> To: detomaso at poca.com
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> >>
> >> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a wide
> >> range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if i tried
> >> I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the consensus as
> >> far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351 Cleveland
> >> that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money then is
> >> necessary , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or suggestions?
> >> Thanks,
> >> Boyd
> >>
> >>
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
> I just did some reading up on harmonic balancers and the post i read
> said the the balancer had to be press fit onto the crank. Can this be
> done with the motor in the car?
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge of
> them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
> balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what
> do they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> important ?
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> <[2]tonydigi at optonline.net> wrote:
>
> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> balancer. A Like the one from Pioneer for $176. A See summit racing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
> Casey
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if
> i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with
> 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more
> money then is necessary A , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or
> suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Boyd
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 2. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> 3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 21:50:22 -0500
> From: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> To: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Cc: TPR <teampantera at yahoo.com>, TPR Forum <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] A Pantera on the track
> Message-ID: <3E53BFD1-6021-4BEF-BCF2-4AB0F17F8E5D at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
>
> Always getting hassled by the Dawg about driving the cars?. the poor guy can?t handle the Detomaso list anymore, so I?ll have to send it to him directly.
> :-)))
>
> I posted this to the local Houston club list, but thought maybe some others would like it...
> At least you can view my lousy driving?.
> The car with the video camera is an RX7 with an LS1 in it.
>
> http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U
>
> And, if you don?t like Panteras?.
>
> http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
>
> FWIW,
> Kirby
>
> -------------- next part --------------
> Always getting hassled by the Dawg about driving the cars.... the poor
> guy can't handle the Detomaso list anymore, so I'll have to send it to
> him directly.
>
> :-)))
>
> I posted this to the local Houston club list, but thought maybe some
> others would like it...
>
> At least you can view my lousy driving....
>
> The car with the video camera is an RX7 with an LS1 in it.
>
> [1]http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U
>
> And, if you don't like Panteras....
>
> [2]http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
>
> FWIW,
>
> Kirby
>
> References
>
> 1. http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U
> 2. http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 19:55:12 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>, Tony DiGiovanna
> <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID:
> <1399344912.76167.YahooMailNeo at web162506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Unless you have a high end race motor, your 351C is a 28 oz external balance.??
>
> Ken
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 7:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
>
>
> ? The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge of
> ? them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
> ? balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what
> ? do they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> ? important ?
> ? Boyd
>
> ? On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> ? <[1]tonydigi at optonline.net> wrote:
>
> ? ? I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> ? ? balancer. A Like the one from Pioneer for $176. A See summit racing.
>
> ? -----Original Message-----
> ? From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
> ? Casey
> ? Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> ? To: [3]detomaso at poca.com
> ? Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> ? I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> ? wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if
> ? i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> ? consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with
> ? 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more
> ? money then is necessary A , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or
> ? suggestions?
> ? Thanks,
> ? Boyd
>
> References
>
> ? 1. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> ? 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> ? 3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>
> DeTomaso mailing list
> DeTomaso at poca.com
> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> -------------- next part --------------
> Unless you have a high end race motor, your 351C is a 28 oz external
> balance.
> Ken
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 7:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge
> of
> them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
> balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what
> do they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> important ?
> Boyd
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> <[1][1]tonydigi at optonline.net> wrote:
> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> balancer. A Like the one from Pioneer for $176. A See summit
> racing.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2][2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> Boyd
> Casey
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> To: [3][3]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure
> if
> i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera
> with
> 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend
> more
> money then is necessary A , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers
> or
> suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Boyd
> References
> 1. mailto:[4]tonydigi at optonline.net
> 2. mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 3. mailto:[6]detomaso at poca.com
> _______________________________________________
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> DeTomaso mailing list
> [7]DeTomaso at poca.com
> [8]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 4. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> 5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 7. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 8. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 22:55:29 -0400
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Mirril M. McMullen" <mirrilm at earthlink.net>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>, "michael at michaelshortt.com"
> <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> Message-ID: <CF8DC6E7.A911%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I have the C22059 bracket. It is very low, but like I said, I can't offer
> feedback about how well it works.
>
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 7:29 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>, "Mirril M.
> McMullen" <mirrilm at earthlink.net>, "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
>
> Corbeau has a flat bracket listed under their" Universal fit " brackets.
> Here is a link:Corbeau Universal mount Flat bracket
> <http://www.racing-seats-usa.com/universal.html>
>
> Hope this helps.
> Boyd
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > It won't help you Will cause you have already purchased your seats , but on
> > the seats I am considering (The CR1 formerly the carrera) is available with an
> > additional 1" shaved off the bottom for an additional $49.00.
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> You want brackets for a 911. It is very flat, and the 911 has a flat
> >> floor pan, which matches the Pantera.
> >>
> >> But it might not be low enough. That's what I'm dealing with right now.
> >> My seat isn't quite low enough, but I haven't tried with it actually
> >> bolted to the bracket. I need to spend some time mocking it up to see
> >> what needs to move.
> >>
> >> But like I said, if you want a bracket - check out the one for a 911.
> >> Otherwise, bolt it to the floor.
> >> --
> >> Will
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/5/14 2:51 PM, "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> > I have attached the bracket guide.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
> >>> > <[1]mirrilm at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Michael,
> >>> > I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that
> >>> > Corbeau make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the
> >>> > seats are a good value.
> >>> > I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if there
> >>> > was a Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile) for
> >>> > the Pantera.
> >>> > Let us know your thoughts.
> >>> > #6859 WAYBAC
> >>> > /\/\
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> >>> > [3]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
> >>> > To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> >>> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> >>> > Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only
> >>> > orders.
> >>> > (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old prices (
> >>> > [5]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been asked to
> >>> > become a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to get the
> >>> > BEST pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail now,
> >>> > see the Corbeau website for current pricing.
> >>> > But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my Pantera
> >>> > friends.
> >>> > So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and if we
> >>> > can get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
> >>> > Michael Shortt
> >>> > --
> >>> > Michael L. Shortt
> >>> > Savannah, Georgia
> >>> > [6]www.michaelshortt.com <http://www.michaelshortt.com>
> >>> > [7]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>> > [8]912-232-9390
> >>> > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act,
> >>> > 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> >>> > privileged. A If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby
> >>> > notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of
> >>> > this communication is strictly prohibited. A Please reply to the sender
> >>> > that you have received this message in error, then delete it. A Thank
> >>> > you
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Michael L. Shortt
> >>> > Savannah, Georgia
> >>> > [9]www.michaelshortt.com <http://www.michaelshortt.com>
> >>> > [10]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>> > 912-232-9390 <tel:912-232-9390>
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> >>> >
> >>> >References
> >>> >
> >>> > 1. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> >>> > 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> >>> > 3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>> > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >>> > 5. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> >>> > 6. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>> > 7. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>> > 8. tel:912-232-9390 <tel:912-232-9390>
> >>> > 9. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>> > 10. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
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> -------------- next part --------------
> I have the C22059 bracket. It is very low, but like I said, I can't
> offer feedback about how well it works.
>
> From: Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 7:29 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <[2]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: "[3]michael at michaelshortt.com" <[4]michael at michaelshortt.com>,
> "Mirril M. McMullen" <[5]mirrilm at earthlink.net>, "[6]detomaso at poca.com"
> <[7]detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
>
> Corbeau has a flat bracket listed under their" Universal fit "
> brackets. Here is a link:[8]Corbeau Universal mount Flat bracket
> Hope this helps.
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Boyd Casey <[9]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> It won't help you Will cause you have already purchased your seats ,
> but on the seats I am considering (The CR1 formerly the carrera) is
> available with an additional 1" shaved off the bottom for an
> additional $49.00.
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Will Kooiman
> <[10]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You want brackets for a 911. It is very flat, and the 911 has a
> flat
> floor pan, which matches the Pantera.
> But it might not be low enough. That's what I'm dealing with right
> now.
> My seat isn't quite low enough, but I haven't tried with it actually
> bolted to the bracket. I need to spend some time mocking it up to
> see
> what needs to move.
> But like I said, if you want a bracket - check out the one for a
> 911.
> Otherwise, bolt it to the floor.
> --
> Will
> On 5/5/14 2:51 PM, "[11]michael at michaelshortt.com"
> <[12]michael at michaelshortt.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I have attached the bracket guide.
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
> > <[1][13]mirrilm at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > Michael,
> > I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that
> > Corbeau make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the
> > seats are a good value.
> > I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if
> there
> > was a Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile)
> for
> > the Pantera.
> > Let us know your thoughts.
> > #6859 WAYBAC
> > /\/\
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [[14]mailto:[2][15]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > [3][16]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
> > To: [4][17]detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> > Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only
> > orders.
> > (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old prices (
> > [5][18]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been
> asked to
> > become a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to get
> the
> > BEST pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail
> now,
> > see the Corbeau website for current pricing.
> > But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my
> Pantera
> > friends.
> > So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and if
> we
> > can get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
> > Michael Shortt
> > --
> > Michael L. Shortt
> > Savannah, Georgia
> > [6][19]www.michaelshortt.com
> > [7][20]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > [8]912-232-9390
> > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
> Act,
> > 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> > privileged. A If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby
> > notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying
> of
> > this communication is strictly prohibited. A Please reply to the
> sender
> > that you have received this message in error, then delete it. A
> Thank
> > you
> >
> > --
> > Michael L. Shortt
> > Savannah, Georgia
> > [9][21]www.michaelshortt.com
> > [10][22]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > [23]912-232-9390
> > A
> > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
> > Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> > privileged.A If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby
> > notified
> > that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this
> > communication is strictly prohibited.A Please reply to the sender
> that
> > you
> > have received this message in error, then delete it.A Thank you
> >
> >References
> >
> > 1. mailto:[24]mirrilm at earthlink.net
> > 2. mailto:[25]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> > 3. mailto:[26]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > 4. mailto:[27]detomaso at poca.com
> > 5. [28]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> > 6. [29]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > 7. mailto:[30]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > 8. tel:[31]912-232-9390
> > 9. [32]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > 10. mailto:[33]michael at michaelshortt.com
>
> >_______________________________________________
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> References
>
> 1. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 2. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 4. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 5. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 7. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 8. http://www.racing-seats-usa.com/universal.html
> 9. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 10. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 11. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 12. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 13. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 14. mailto:[2]
> 15. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 16. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 17. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 18. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> 19. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 20. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 21. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 22. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 23. tel:912-232-9390
> 24. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 25. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 26. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 27. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 28. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> 29. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 30. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 31. tel:912-232-9390
> 32. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 33. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 34. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 35. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 36. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 37. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 19:56:29 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>, Tony DiGiovanna
> <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID:
> <1399344989.87690.YahooMailNeo at web162502.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> The damper is pulled on by a tool that threads into the crankshaft, a big stud.? I assume a lot of people just use a big bolt, but there are tools with bearings that ride on damper.?
>
> Ken
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 7:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
>
>
> ? I just did some reading up on harmonic balancers and the post i read
> ? said the the balancer had to be press fit onto the crank. Can this be
> ? done with the motor in the car?
> ? Boyd
>
> ? On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> ? wrote:
>
> ? The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge of
> ? them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
> ? balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what
> ? do they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> ? important ?
> ? Boyd
>
> ? On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> ? <[2]tonydigi at optonline.net> wrote:
>
> ? ? I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> ? ? balancer. A Like the one from Pioneer for $176. A See summit racing.
>
> ? -----Original Message-----
> ? From: DeTomaso [mailto:[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
> ? Casey
> ? Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> ? To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> ? Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> ? I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> ? wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if
> ? i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> ? consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with
> ? 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more
> ? money then is necessary A , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or
> ? suggestions?
> ? Thanks,
> ? Boyd
>
> References
>
> ? 1. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> ? 2. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> ? 3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> ? 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>
>
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> The damper is pulled on by a tool that threads into the crankshaft, a
> big stud. I assume a lot of people just use a big bolt, but there are
> tools with bearings that ride on damper.
> Ken
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 7:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> I just did some reading up on harmonic balancers and the post i read
> said the the balancer had to be press fit onto the crank. Can this be
> done with the motor in the car?
> Boyd
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Boyd Casey <[1][1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge
> of
> them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
> balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what
> do they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> important ?
> Boyd
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> <[2][2]tonydigi at optonline.net> wrote:
> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> balancer. A Like the one from Pioneer for $176. A See summit
> racing.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[3][3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> Boyd
> Casey
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> To: [4][4]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure
> if
> i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera
> with
> 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend
> more
> money then is necessary A , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers
> or
> suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Boyd
> References
> 1. mailto:[5]boyd411 at gmail.com
> 2. mailto:[6]tonydigi at optonline.net
> 3. mailto:[7]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 4. mailto:[8]detomaso at poca.com
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>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 2. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> 3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 5. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 6. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> 7. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 8. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 9. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 10. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 22:38:09 -0600
> From: David <adin at frontier.net>
> To: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>, TPR
> <teampantera at yahoo.com>, TPR Forum <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [TPR] A Pantera on the track
> Message-ID: <0EEEF4C7-8D97-419A-875C-487820A99437 at frontier.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Kirby
>
> Thank you.
>
> David
>
> Sent from my handheld gizmo, please forgive my typing!
>
> On May 5, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Always getting hassled by the Dawg about driving the cars?. the poor guy can?t handle the Detomaso list anymore, so I?ll have to send it to him directly.
> :-)))
>
> I posted this to the local Houston club list, but thought maybe some others would like it...
> At least you can view my lousy driving?.
> The car with the video camera is an RX7 with an LS1 in it.
>
> http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U
>
> And, if you don?t like Panteras?.
>
> http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
>
> FWIW,
> Kirby
>
> _______________________________________________
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> -------------- next part --------------
> Kirby
>
> Thank you.
>
> David
> Sent from my handheld gizmo, please forgive my typing!
>
> On May 5, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Kirby Schrader
> <[1]kirby.schrader at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Always getting hassled by the Dawg about driving the cars.... the poor
> guy can't handle the Detomaso list anymore, so I'll have to send it to
> him directly.
>
> :-)))
>
> I posted this to the local Houston club list, but thought maybe some
> others would like it...
>
> At least you can view my lousy driving....
>
> The car with the video camera is an RX7 with an LS1 in it.
>
> [2]http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U
>
> And, if you don't like Panteras....
>
> [3]http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
>
> FWIW,
>
> Kirby
>
> _______________________________________________
> TPR mailing list
> [4]TPR at teampanteraracing.com
> [5]http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.
> com
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:kirby.schrader at gmail.com
> 2. http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U
> 3. http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
> 4. mailto:TPR at teampanteraracing.com
> 5. http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 22:01:03 -0700
> From: Michael Cox <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for Campi's
> Message-ID:
> <CAMPkPf0fYOo8sLum01nyjVQZ50U-gMq2mnJqnQjSuAg52NuASQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> There is an ad on eBay for a can of Ditzler paint. From the ad:
>
> "Here is a quart of the original Ditzler Castalum Vinyl enamel.
> This is the paint which was listed in the Ford Technical Service
> Bulletin for correct finish on the Campi wheels."
>
> http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
>
> I know nothing about this ad or its accuracy, people occasionally
> ask about repainting wheels.
>
> --mike
> -------------- next part --------------
> There is an ad on eBay for a can of Ditzler paint. From the ad:
> "Here is a quart of the original Ditzler Castalum Vinyl enamel.
> This is the paint which was listed in the Ford Technical Service
> Bulletin for correct finish on the Campi wheels."
> [1]http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> I know nothing about this ad or its accuracy, people occasionally
> ask about repainting wheels.
> A A --mike
>
> References
>
> 1. http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 01:38:34 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> To: coxmichaelt at gmail.com, detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for
> Campi's
> Message-ID: <8D137048E3F3A66-27F4-221D2 at webmail-va014.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> I would want to see a photo of the paint inside and comments as to whether it is still good.
>
> Paint tends to turn into a glob of hard stuff after X years
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Cox <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Mon, May 5, 2014 10:02 pm
> Subject: [DeTomaso] eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for Campi's
>
>
> There is an ad on eBay for a can of Ditzler paint. From the ad:
> "Here is a quart of the original Ditzler Castalum Vinyl enamel.
> This is the paint which was listed in the Ford Technical Service
> Bulletin for correct finish on the Campi wheels."
> [1]http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> I know nothing about this ad or its accuracy, people occasionally
> ask about repainting wheels.
> A A --mike
>
> References
>
> 1. http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
>
>
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> -------------- next part --------------
> I would want to see a photo of the paint inside and comments as to
> whether it is still good.
>
>
>
> Paint tends to turn into a glob of hard stuff after X years
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Cox <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Mon, May 5, 2014 10:02 pm
> Subject: [DeTomaso] eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for Campi's
> There is an ad on eBay for a can of Ditzler paint. From the ad:
> "Here is a quart of the original Ditzler Castalum Vinyl enamel.
> This is the paint which was listed in the Ford Technical Service
> Bulletin for correct finish on the Campi wheels."
> [1][1]http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> I know nothing about this ad or its accuracy, people occasionally
> ask about repainting wheels.
> A A --mike
>
> References
>
> 1. [2]http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
>
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>
> 1. http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> 2. http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> 3. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 4. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 22:55:12 -0700
> From: Michael Cox <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for
> Campi's
> Message-ID:
> <CAMPkPf3cGT1XfF-qZNh2CpWeKmrPNArUC_RYM5hU1LxLg=K3vA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I agree with that! If you look up the color DX-8555 it matches up to a
> relatively common silver from the mid to late 60's, sometimes even called
> Argent Silver.
>
> --mike
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > I would want to see a photo of the paint inside and comments as to whether
> > it is still good.
> >
> > Paint tends to turn into a glob of hard stuff after X years
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Cox <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> > To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> > Sent: Mon, May 5, 2014 10:02 pm
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for Campi's
> >
> > There is an ad on eBay for a can of Ditzler paint. From the ad:
> > "Here is a quart of the original Ditzler Castalum Vinyl enamel.
> > This is the paint which was listed in the Ford Technical Service
> > Bulletin for correct finish on the Campi wheels."
> > [1]http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> > I know nothing about this ad or its accuracy, people occasionally
> > ask about repainting wheels.
> > A A --mike
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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> -------------- next part --------------
> I agree with that! If you look up the color DX-8555 it matches up to a
> relatively common silver from the mid to late 60's, sometimes even
> called Argent Silver.
> A A --mike
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Pantdino <[1]pantdino at aol.com> wrote:
>
> I would want to see a photo of the paint inside and comments as to
> whether it is still good.
>
> A
>
> Paint tends to turn into a glob of hard stuff after X years
>
> A
>
> A
>
> A
>
> A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Cox <[2]coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> To: detomaso <[3]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Mon, May 5, 2014 10:02 pm
> Subject: [DeTomaso] eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for Campi's
> There is an ad on eBay for a can of Ditzler paint. From the ad:
> "Here is a quart of the original Ditzler Castalum Vinyl enamel.
> This is the paint which was listed in the Ford Technical Service
> Bulletin for correct finish on the Campi wheels."
> [1][4]http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> I know nothing about this ad or its accuracy, people occasionally
> ask about repainting wheels.
> A A --mike
>
> References
>
> 1. [5]http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
>
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>
> 1. mailto:pantdino at aol.com
> 2. mailto:coxmichaelt at gmail.com
> 3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 4. http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> 5. http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> 6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 07:41:49 -0400
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>, Tony DiGiovanna
> <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID: <CF8E4176.7879A%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Yes.
>
> Press fit, doesn't mean it has to be done on a press.
>
>
>
> You can use the puller to press the new balancer back on, or you can try
> using the balancer bolt. You want to avoid applying torque before you
> have several threads engaged - otherwise, you might damage the threads.
>
> My puller uses the same threads as the balancer bolt, so I normally thread
> the long stud into the end of the crank, and then I use a nut to start the
> balancer onto the crank. Once it's on a bit, I remove the stud, and
> replace it with the balancer bolt.
>
> --
> Will
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/5/14 10:36 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I just did some reading up on harmonic balancers and the post i read
> > said the the balancer had to be press fit onto the crank. Can this be
> > done with the motor in the car?
> > Boyd
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge of
> > them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
> > balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what
> > do they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> > important ?
> > Boyd
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> > <[2]tonydigi at optonline.net> wrote:
> >
> > I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> > balancer. A Like the one from Pioneer for $176. A See summit racing.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
> > Casey
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> > To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> > I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> > wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if
> > i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> > consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with
> > 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more
> > money then is necessary A , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or
> > suggestions?
> > Thanks,
> > Boyd
> >
> >References
> >
> > 1. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> > 2. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> > 3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 05:02:21 -0700 (PDT)
> From: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
> To: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>, DeTomaso Mail List
> <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Cc: TPR <teampantera at yahoo.com>, TPR Forum <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [TPR] A Pantera on the track
> Message-ID:
> <1399377741.73991.YahooMailNeo at web163805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Enjoyed, thanks.
>
>
> ?
> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> To: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Cc: TPR <teampantera at yahoo.com>; TPR Forum <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 9:50 PM
> Subject: [TPR] A Pantera on the track
>
>
>
>
>
> Always getting hassled by the Dawg about driving the cars?. the poor guy can?t handle the Detomaso list anymore, so I?ll have to send it to him directly.
> :-)))
>
> I posted this to the local Houston club list, but thought maybe some others would like it...
> At least you can view my lousy driving?.
> The car with the video camera is an RX7 with an LS1 in it.
>
> http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U?
>
> And, if you don?t like Panteras?.
>
> http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
>
> FWIW,
> Kirby
>
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> -------------- next part --------------
> Enjoyed, thanks.
>
> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be
> ! )
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> To: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Cc: TPR <teampantera at yahoo.com>; TPR Forum <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 9:50 PM
> Subject: [TPR] A Pantera on the track
> Always getting hassled by the Dawg about driving the carsa|. the poor
> guy canat handle the Detomaso list anymore, so Iall have to send it to
> him directly.
> :-)))
> I posted this to the local Houston club list, but thought maybe some
> others would like it...
> At least you can view my lousy drivinga|.
> The car with the video camera is an RX7 with an LS1 in it.
> [1]http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U
> And, if you donat like Panterasa|.
> [2]http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
> FWIW,
> Kirby
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> [4]http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.
> com
>
> References
>
> 1. http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U
> 2. http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
> 3. mailto:TPR at teampanteraracing.com
> 4. http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 28
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 13:42:18 +0000 (GMT)
> From: cengles at cox.net
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com, tonydigi at optonline.net
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID: <150e89e.179da.145d1c54952.Webtop.0 at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no
>
> Dear Boyd,
>
>
> About eighteen years ago, I recall that I replaced a bad
> stock balancer with a similar balancer. I was able to accomplish that
> with the engine in place using some anti seize and the balancer bolt to
> push it on. I have since learned that is not the best technique
> although it is a common one. Also the space constraints of an in situ
> balancer change may limit the options ton only the suboptimal balancer
> bolt.
>
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Boyd Casey wrote:
>
> > I just did some reading up on harmonic balancers and the post i read
> > said
> > the the balancer had to be press fit onto the crank. Can this be done
> > with
> > the motor in the car?
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge
> >> of
> >> them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
> >> balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what
> >> do
> >> they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> >> important ?
> >> Boyd
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> >> <tonydigi at optonline.net>wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> >>> balancer. Like the one from Pioneer for $176. See summit racing.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
> >>> Casey
> >>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> >>> To: detomaso at poca.com
> >>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> >>>
> >>> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> >>> wide
> >>> range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if i
> >>> tried
> >>> I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> >>> consensus as
> >>> far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351
> >>> Cleveland
> >>> that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money then
> >>> is
> >>> necessary , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or
> >>> suggestions?
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Boyd
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 29
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 11:21:51 -0400
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>, tony DiGiovanna
> <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID:
> <CALsQ=ctEB3QfAoftX4Zn71-Y33JmD9ebrp66GjBmen0sq+axKQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Thanks to everyone that supplied information and opinions , your
> contribution to my continuing mechanics education ( on the fly) home study
> program is greatly appreciated!
>
> Boyd
>
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 9:42 AM, <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Dear Boyd,
> >
> >
> > About eighteen years ago, I recall that I replaced a bad
> > stock balancer with a similar balancer. I was able to accomplish that
> > with the engine in place using some anti seize and the balancer bolt to
> > push it on. I have since learned that is not the best technique although
> > it is a common one. Also the space constraints of an in situ balancer
> > change may limit the options ton only the suboptimal balancer bolt.
> >
> >
> >
> > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Boyd Casey wrote:
> >
> > I just did some reading up on harmonic balancers and the post i read said
> >> the the balancer had to be press fit onto the crank. Can this be done with
> >> the motor in the car?
> >> Boyd
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge of
> >>> them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
> >>> balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what do
> >>> they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be important
> >>> ?
> >>> Boyd
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net
> >>> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> >>>> balancer. Like the one from Pioneer for $176. See summit racing.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
> >>>> Casey
> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> >>>> To: detomaso at poca.com
> >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> >>>>
> >>>> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> >>>> wide
> >>>> range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if i
> >>>> tried
> >>>> I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the consensus
> >>>> as
> >>>> far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351 Cleveland
> >>>> that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money then is
> >>>> necessary , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or suggestions?
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Boyd
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
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> >>
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
> Thanks to everyone that supplied information A and opinions , your
> contribution to my continuing mechanics education ( on the fly) home
> study program is greatly appreciated!A
> Boyd
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 9:42 AM, <[1]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>
> Dear Boyd,
> A A A A A A A About eighteen years ago, I recall that I
> replaced a bad stock balancer with a similar balancer. A I was able
> to accomplish that with the engine in place using some anti seize
> and the balancer bolt to push it on. A I have since learned that is
> not the best technique although it is a common one. A Also the
> space constraints of an in situ balancer change may limit the
> options ton only the suboptimal balancer bolt.
> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards, Chuck
> Engles
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Boyd Casey wrote:
>
> I just did some reading up on harmonic balancers and the post i read
> said
> the the balancer had to be press fit onto the crank. Can this be done
> with
> the motor in the car?
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Boyd Casey <[2]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge of
> them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
> balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what
> do
> they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> important ?
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> <[3]tonydigi at optonline.net>wrote:
>
> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
>
> balancer. A Like the one from Pioneer for $176. A See summit racing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
> Casey
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
>
> To: [5]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> wide
> range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if i
> tried
> I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the consensus
> as
> far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351
> Cleveland
> that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money then is
>
> necessary A , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or
> suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Boyd
>
> A A A ------------------------------
>
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>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:cengles at cox.net
> 2. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 3. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> 4. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 30
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 20:18:15 +0200
> From: "Freddy Henningsen" <fredhen at online.no>
> To: <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, <asajay at asajay.com>, <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need Help gerbox
> Message-ID: <9EC57882B1B74DAAA840F8B197AC14CB at EierPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: <asajay at asajay.com>; <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need Help gerbox
>
>
> >
> > In a message dated 5/4/14 7 17 50, asajay at asajay.com writes:
> >
> >
> >> Please take a picture of your clutch and send it to the list.
> >>
> >
> >>>>He just bought a complete Pantera-specific Centerforce clutch kit from
> > Hall Pantera. It's all brand new. Apparently unnecessary, as it turns
> > out. :<(
>
> that's right:(
>
> >
> > I am wondering if the starter Bendix drive is AFU and the starter gear is
> > kissing the flywheel ring gear? Or did the tin shield that covers the
> > bottom of the bellhousing opening (sheld between the engine and gearbox)
> > get
> > whanged somehow, so that it is rubbing against the flywheel?
>
> it is the sheld that is rubbing on the inside (towards the engine) against
> the flywheel.
> bent it slightly and the sound was gone. has now made ??a small cover to
> cover over the part that was cut out.
>
> Freddy
>
>
> >
> > Mike
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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ok - put a chair up against it, if you want - will try to get there
Wed. or Thurs. - by the way -
are you guys extending or vacating, end of Jluy, I think
Trip
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: Harmonic balancer (Ken Green)
> 2. Re: Corbeau Seats (Himes, Terry (397C))
> 3. Re: Corbeau Seats (Will Kooiman)
> 4. Re: replacement seats (Will Kooiman)
> 5. Sniping (Ron)
> 6. Re: Harmonic balancer (cengles at cox.net)
> 7. Re: replacement seats (Mark Tumbarello)
> 8. Ride (Tom Shinrock)
> 9. Re: Ride (Christopher Kimball)
> 10. Re: replacement seats (Will Kooiman)
> 11. Re: Sniping (Boyd Casey)
> 12. Re: Corbeau Seats (Boyd Casey)
> 13. Re: Corbeau Seats (Boyd Casey)
> 14. POCA Fun Rally Raffle - Chapter and Individual Donations
> (Mike Thomas)
> 15. Re: Harmonic balancer (Tony DiGiovanna)
> 16. Re: Harmonic balancer (Boyd Casey)
> 17. Re: Harmonic balancer (Boyd Casey)
> 18. A Pantera on the track (Kirby Schrader)
> 19. Re: Harmonic balancer (Ken Green)
> 20. Re: Corbeau Seats (Will Kooiman)
> 21. Re: Harmonic balancer (Ken Green)
> 22. Re: [TPR] A Pantera on the track (David)
> 23. eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for Campi's (Michael Cox)
> 24. Re: eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for Campi's (Pantdino)
> 25. Re: eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for Campi's (Michael Cox)
> 26. Re: Harmonic balancer (Will Kooiman)
> 27. Re: [TPR] A Pantera on the track (B Hower)
> 28. Re: Harmonic balancer (cengles at cox.net)
> 29. Re: Harmonic balancer (Boyd Casey)
> 30. Re: Need Help gerbox (Freddy Henningsen)
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 12:40:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> To: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>, "boyd411 at gmail.com"
> <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID:
> <1399318846.14118.YahooMailNeo at web162502.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I thought people liked the Romac damper:
>
>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C
-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659
>
> Are there diameter issues,?3 bolt vs 4?bolt pattern, etc?
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
>
>
> Dear Boyd,
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? There are lots of options.? I would not recommend the
> Rattler type balancer, although it might do well in a stock or mildly
> modified application.? You could simply get a Ford replacement or
> equivalent aftermarket stock type replacement if economy is
paramount.
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The best ones that I am familiar with are ATI, BHJ
and
> Rollmaster (IIRC).? I recently bought a BHJ harmonic balancer and it
> was a little less than $300.? ATI and Rollmaster are in the same
range I
> believe.
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I suppose that in terms of bang for the buck a stock
> type replacement would be adequate for most uses.? If your mildly
> modified engine gets flogged, then it I would recommend one of the
above
> balancers.? They're relatively expensive for a boring engine part,
but a
> good balancer.......is still boring, but better in the long run for
hipo
> engines.
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? FWIW,? Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Boyd Casey wrote:
>
> > I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed
a
> > wide
> > range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if
i
> > tried
> > I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
consensus
> > as
> > far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351
> > Cleveland
> > that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money
then
> > is
> > necessary? , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or
suggestions?
> > Thanks,
> > Boyd
> >
> >
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> I thought people liked the Romac damper:
>
[1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Clevelan
> d-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659
> Are there diameter issues, 3 bolt vs 4 bolt pattern, etc?
> Ken
> From: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Dear Boyd,
> There are lots of options. I would not recommend the
> Rattler type balancer, although it might do well in a stock or mildly
> modified application. You could simply get a Ford replacement or
> equivalent aftermarket stock type replacement if economy is
paramount.
> The best ones that I am familiar with are ATI, BHJ and
> Rollmaster (IIRC). I recently bought a BHJ harmonic balancer and it
> was a little less than $300. ATI and Rollmaster are in the same range
> I
> believe.
> I suppose that in terms of bang for the buck a stock
> type replacement would be adequate for most uses. If your mildly
> modified engine gets flogged, then it I would recommend one of the
> above
> balancers. They're relatively expensive for a boring engine part, but
> a
> good balancer.......is still boring, but better in the long run for
> hipo
> engines.
> FWIW, Chuck Engles
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Boyd Casey wrote:
> > I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed
a
> > wide
> > range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if
i
> > tried
> > I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> consensus
> > as
> > far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351
> > Cleveland
> > that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money
then
> > is
> > necessary , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or
suggestions?
> > Thanks,
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
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> References
>
> 1.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C
-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659
> 2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 4. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 5. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 19:41:49 +0000
> From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> To: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>, "Mirril
> M. McMullen" <mirrilm at earthlink.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> Message-ID: <CF8D375C.55D2D%thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I'm IN for seats also! I hate my Corvette seats.
>
>
> Terry W. Himes
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
> Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
> Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
> Fax: (818) 393-3147
> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> ??
>
> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>"
<michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:51 AM
> To: "Mirril M. McMullen"
<mirrilm at earthlink.net<mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net>>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>"
<detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
>
> I have attached the bracket guide.
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
<mirrilm at earthlink.net<mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net>>wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that
Corbeau
> make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the seats are a
good
> value.
>
> I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if there
was a
> Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile) for the
Pantera.
>
> Let us know your thoughts.
>
> #6859 WAYBAC
>
> /\/\
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
> To: detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
>
> Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only
orders.
> (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old prices (
> http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been asked to
become
> a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to get the BEST
> pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail now, see
the
> Corbeau website for current pricing.
> But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my Pantera
> friends.
> So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and if we
can
> get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
>
> Michael Shortt
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael L. Shortt
> Savannah, Georgia
> www.michaelshortt.com
> michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>
> 912-232-9390
>
>
> This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act,
18
> U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged.
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>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael L. Shortt
> Savannah, Georgia
> www.michaelshortt.com
> michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>
> 912-232-9390
>
>
> This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
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> -------------- next part --------------
> I'm IN for seats also! I hate my Corvette seats.
>
> Terry W. Himes
>
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>
> Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
>
> Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
>
> Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
>
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>
> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>
> [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>
> From: "[2]michael at michaelshortt.com" <[3]michael at michaelshortt.com>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:51 AM
> To: "Mirril M. McMullen" <[4]mirrilm at earthlink.net>
> Cc: "[5]detomaso at poca.com" <[6]detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
>
> I have attached the bracket guide.
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
> <[7]mirrilm at earthlink.net>wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that
Corbeau
>
> make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the seats are a
> good
>
> value.
>
> I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if there
was
> a
>
> Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile) for the
> Pantera.
>
> Let us know your thoughts.
>
> #6859 WAYBAC
>
> /\/\
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>
> [9]michael at michaelshortt.com
>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
>
> To: [10]detomaso at poca.com
>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
>
> Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only
> orders.
>
> (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old prices (
>
> [11]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been asked
to
> become
>
> a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to get the BEST
>
> pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail now, see
> the
>
> Corbeau website for current pricing.
>
> But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my Pantera
>
> friends.
>
> So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and if we
> can
>
> get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
>
> Michael Shortt
>
> --
>
> Michael L. Shortt
>
> Savannah, Georgia
>
> www.michaelshortt.com
>
> [12]michael at michaelshortt.com
>
> 912-232-9390
>
> This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act,
> 18
>
> U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> privileged. If
>
> you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
>
> retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this
communication
> is
>
> strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have
received
>
> this message in error, then delete it. Thank you
>
> --
> Michael L. Shortt
> Savannah, Georgia
> www.michaelshortt.com
> [13]michael at michaelshortt.com
> 912-232-9390
> This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
> Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby
> notified
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> have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> 2. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 4. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 7. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 8. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 9. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 10. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 11. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> 12. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 13. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 15:45:54 -0400
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>, "Mirril
> M. McMullen" <mirrilm at earthlink.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> Message-ID: <CF8D61FE.78686%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> You want brackets for a 911. It is very flat, and the 911 has a flat
> floor pan, which matches the Pantera.
>
> But it might not be low enough. That's what I'm dealing with right
now.
> My seat isn't quite low enough, but I haven't tried with it actually
> bolted to the bracket. I need to spend some time mocking it up to see
> what needs to move.
>
> But like I said, if you want a bracket - check out the one for a 911.
> Otherwise, bolt it to the floor.
> --
> Will
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/5/14 2:51 PM, "michael at michaelshortt.com"
<michael at michaelshortt.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I have attached the bracket guide.
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
> > <[1]mirrilm at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > Michael,
> > I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that
> > Corbeau make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the
> > seats are a good value.
> > I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if there
> > was a Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile) for
> > the Pantera.
> > Let us know your thoughts.
> > #6859 WAYBAC
> > /\/\
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> > [3]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
> > To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> > Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only
> > orders.
> > (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old prices (
> > [5]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been asked
to
> > become a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to get
the
> > BEST pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail
now,
> > see the Corbeau website for current pricing.
> > But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my
Pantera
> > friends.
> > So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and if
we
> > can get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
> > Michael Shortt
> > --
> > Michael L. Shortt
> > Savannah, Georgia
> > [6]www.michaelshortt.com
> > [7]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > [8]912-232-9390
> > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
Act,
> > 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> > privileged. A If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby
> > notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying
of
> > this communication is strictly prohibited. A Please reply to the
sender
> > that you have received this message in error, then delete it. A
Thank
> > you
> >
> > --
> > Michael L. Shortt
> > Savannah, Georgia
> > [9]www.michaelshortt.com
> > [10]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > 912-232-9390
> > A
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> >
> >References
> >
> > 1. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> > 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> > 3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> > 5. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> > 6. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > 7. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> > 8. tel:912-232-9390
> > 9. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > 10. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 15:54:47 -0400
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>, Mark Tumbarello
> <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> Message-ID: <CF8D63E0.78693%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> The deletion of the logo was not extra as I recall.
>
> The holes were extra, but not much.
>
> I can't remember if they are partial leather or all vinyl. I'm not at
home
> right now, so I can't look. I remember that full leather was much
more
> expensive. They might even send them out to be recovered in leather.
>
> The biggest recommendation I can make to anyone is to try lots of
seats.
> Sit in as many as possible. We are all built differently, and we have
> different preferences. I love the LG1 seats. There were many other
seats
> that I didn't like.
> --
> Will
>
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 12:52 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> Will,
> They look very nice. Very similar to the seats I have now (except
mine are
> nock offs sold as "Real Leather" that were in fact vinyl ! What are
your
> seats upholstered in? Was the deletion of the Corbeau logo an extra
cost
> option? Did you get the submarine hole added? I have noticed that
Corbeau
> also offer an option the have the seat cushion height shaved an inch
for
> $45. I think that would help with the height issue. I am looking at
the
> Corbeau CR1 in black Leather )another nice thing about the corbeau
leather
> option is that the entire seat (front and back) is upholstered in
leather .
> Most people don't realize that even when you get leather upholstery
from the
> factory in most makes only the seat faces are actually leather with
the
> remainder of the seat in Vinyl.
>
> On a side note it always struck me as amusing that for years
> Mercedes Benz has been selling there expensive cars with upholstery
called
> "MB Tex" which is a trade marked name for the Vinyl that Mercedes
uses. I
> wonder how many of the deep pocketed MB buyers would have made the
same
> choices if the knew that their new Mercedes had Vinyl interior (
Mercedes
> does offer leather as an option on the less expensive models but it
is
> standard on their flagship s-class and even has two levels of napa
leather
> upgrades) I must admit that MB MB Tex is the best vinyl interior I
have ever
> experienced .
>
> Boyd
>
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Will Kooiman
<will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Boyd ? the stock seats were comfortable, but they are too flat. I
always had
> > a tough time in corners with my butt sliding all over the place.
> >
> > My Corbeau LG1s are a major upgrade to the stock seats. They do not
look like
> > 90% of the online photos of Corbeau seats. They look like they
belong in the
> > car. You can order Corbeau seats with a lot of options ? materials,
with or
> > without harness holes, colors, etc. These options either make the
seat look
> > like they were done by the factory or like they were done by a
clown.
> >
> > There's a pic on this forum:
> > http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71547
> >
> > Except that my seats do not have the Corbeau logo, and they are all
black.
> >
> > The LG1 seats feel very similar to my wife's 2013 Boxster. I don't
know how
> > comfortable they will be on a long trip, but comfortable or not,
the side
> > support will be worth it.
> >
> >
> > From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> > Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014 12:25 AM
> > To: Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> > Cc: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> > <detomaso at poca.com>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >
> > Will,
> > Did you think the stock Pantera seats were more comfortable? I find
the add
> > support of the bolsters to make a huge difference in hard
cornering. There is
> > a reason all modern performance cars use seats of similar design.I
think your
> > seats look great in your car. Thanks for sharing your experience
with me.
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >> Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those
different
> >> fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have
Recaro style
> >> seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or FIA sanctioned.
I have six
> >> point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat isn't effective at
maintaining the
> >> six point harness in the proper position . In the event of an
accident it is
> >> extremely important (IMHO) to have a properly positioned submarine
belt and
> >> in order for it to be placed in the correct position you must have
have an
> >> anchor point that goes through the seat ( not wrapped forward
around the
> >> front of the seat. Improper positioning of multi point harnesses
(5 or 6) can
> >> result in serious injury or death. So despite your preference for
the
> >> aesthetic appeal of the stock seat if you plan on doing more with
your
> >> Pantera then car shows then it is essential that you optimize your
car to
> >> provide the maximum in safety . Aside from the safety issues I
happen to like
> >> (in fact prefer the look of a recaro style seat). If I wanted a
Pantera
> >> solely for a car collection I would have kept it stock. Now I want
seats that
> >> not only provide a more stable driving position (like a Recaro
style seat)
> >> but one that is also FIA approved ( like an authentic Recaro,
Corbeau or
> >> Sparco) and is built to a higher quality standard.
> >> Boyd
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello
<ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
> >>> You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would
take
> >>> place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest
seat in a
> >>> pantera just looks wrong. Just an opinion
> >>>
> >>>> > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
> >>>> > From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> >>>> > To: boyd411 at gmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
> >>>
> >>>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body,
and they
> >>>> > look proper in the Pantera.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or
through a
> >>>> > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out,
and order
> >>>> > local.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough
rails and a
> >>>> > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>>> > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was
wondering
> if
> >>>>> > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau
seats that
> >>>>> > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and
a fixed
> >>>>> > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like
the
> >>>>> Recaro
> >>>>> > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may
add some
> >>>>> much
> >>>>> > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style"
seats
> >>>>> > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then
the
> >>>>> "Fixed
> >>>>> > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a
helmet.I
> >>>>> know
> >>>>> > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many
high end
> >>>>> cars
> >>>>> > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in
their
> >>>>> > > Panteras or other cars?
> >>>>> > > Thanks,
> >>>>> > > Boyd
> >>>>> > >_______________________________________________
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>>> > >
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> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
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> >>>> >
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> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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> The deletion of the logo was not extra as I recall.
> The holes were extra, but not much.
> I can't remember if they are partial leather or all vinyl. I'm not at
> home right now, so I can't look. I remember that full leather was
much
> more expensive. They might even send them out to be recovered in
> leather.
> The biggest recommendation I can make to anyone is to try lots of
> seats. Sit in as many as possible. We are all built differently, and
> we have different preferences. I love the LG1 seats. There were many
> other seats that I didn't like.
> --
> Will
>
> From: Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 12:52 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <[2]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: Mark Tumbarello <[3]ollerabmut at msn.com>, "[4]detomaso at poca.com"
> <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> Will,
> They look very nice. Very similar to the seats I have now (except
mine
> are nock offs sold as "Real Leather" that were in fact vinyl ! What
are
> your seats upholstered in? Was the deletion of the Corbeau logo an
> extra cost option? Did you get the submarine hole added? I have
noticed
> that Corbeau also offer an option the have the seat cushion height
> shaved an inch for $45. I think that would help with the height
issue.
> I am looking at the Corbeau CR1 in black Leather )another nice thing
> about the corbeau leather option is that the entire seat (front and
> back) is upholstered in leather . Most people don't realize that even
> when you get leather upholstery from the factory in most makes only
the
> seat faces are actually leather with the remainder of the seat in
> Vinyl.
> On a side note it always struck me as amusing that for years
> Mercedes Benz has been selling there expensive cars with upholstery
> called "MB Tex" which is a trade marked name for the Vinyl that
> Mercedes uses. I wonder how many of the deep pocketed MB buyers would
> have made the same choices if the knew that their new Mercedes had
> Vinyl interior ( Mercedes does offer leather as an option on the less
> expensive models but it is standard on their flagship s-class and
even
> has two levels of napa leather upgrades) I must admit that MB MB Tex
is
> the best vinyl interior I have ever experienced .
> Boyd
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Will Kooiman
> <[6]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Boyd - the stock seats were comfortable, but they are too flat. I
> always had a tough time in corners with my butt sliding all over the
> place.
> My Corbeau LG1s are a major upgrade to the stock seats. They do not
> look like 90% of the online photos of Corbeau seats. They look like
> they belong in the car. You can order Corbeau seats with a lot of
> options - materials, with or without harness holes, colors, etc.
These
> options either make the seat look like they were done by the factory
or
> like they were done by a clown.
> There's a pic on this forum:
> [7]http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71547
> Except that my seats do not have the Corbeau logo, and they are all
> black.
> The LG1 seats feel very similar to my wife's 2013 Boxster. I don't
> know how comfortable they will be on a long trip, but comfortable or
> not, the side support will be worth it.
> From: Boyd Casey <[8]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014 12:25 AM
> To: Mark Tumbarello <[9]ollerabmut at msn.com>
> Cc: Will Kooiman <[10]will.kooiman at gmail.com>,
"[11]detomaso at poca.com"
> <[12]detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> Will,
> Did you think the stock Pantera seats were more comfortable? I find
the
> add support of the bolsters to make a huge difference in hard
> cornering. There is a reason all modern performance cars use seats of
> similar design.I think your seats look great in your car. Thanks for
> sharing your experience with me.
> Boyd
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Boyd Casey <[13]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those different
> fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have
Recaro
> style seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or FIA
sanctioned.
> I have six point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat isn't effective
at
> maintaining the six point harness in the proper position . In the
event
> of an accident it is extremely important (IMHO) to have a properly
> positioned submarine belt and in order for it to be placed in the
> correct position you must have have an anchor point that goes through
> the seat ( not wrapped forward around the front of the seat. Improper
> positioning of multi point harnesses (5 or 6) can result in serious
> injury or death. So despite your preference for the aesthetic appeal
of
> the stock seat if you plan on doing more with your Pantera then car
> shows then it is essential that you optimize your car to provide the
> maximum in safety . Aside from the safety issues I happen to like (in
> fact prefer the look of a recaro style seat). If I wanted a Pantera
> solely for a car collection I would have kept it stock. Now I want
> seats that not only provide a more stable driving position (like a
> Recaro style seat) but one that is also FIA approved ( like an
> authentic Recaro, Corbeau or Sparco) and is built to a higher quality
> standard.
> Boyd
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello
> <[14]ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
>
> You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would
take
> place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest seat in
a
> pantera just looks wrong. Just an opinion
>
> > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
> > From: [15]will.kooiman at gmail.com
> > To: [16]boyd411 at gmail.com; [17]detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >
> > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body, and
they
> > look proper in the Pantera.
> >
> > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
> >
> > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or
> through a
> > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out, and
> order
> > local.
> >
> > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
> >
> > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough rails
and
> a
> > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
> >
> > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
> >
> > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[18]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was
> wondering if
> > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau seats
that
> > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and a
fixed
> > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like the
> Recaro
> > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may add some
> much
> > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style" seats
> > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then the
> "Fixed
> > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a helmet.I
> know
> > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many high
end
> cars
> > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in their
> > > Panteras or other cars?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Boyd
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >
> > >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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> >
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> > [21]DeTomaso at poca.com
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>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 2. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 3. mailto:ollerabmut at msn.com
> 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 6. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 7. http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71547
> 8. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 9. mailto:ollerabmut at msn.com
> 10. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 11. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 12. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 13. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 14. mailto:ollerabmut at msn.com
> 15. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 16. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 17. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 18. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 19. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 20. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:21:44 -0700
> From: "Ron" <ron at teamecc.com>
> To: <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Sniping
> Message-ID: <5DBCC733FC3B4A04A020CD0CD78AA197 at Ron>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Maybe Mark and Boyd could keep their personal Sniping at each
> other off the Forum site. Just my opinion.
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> Maybe Mark and Boyd could keep their personal Sniping at each
>
> other off the Forum site. Just my opinion.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 20:30:17 +0000 (GMT)
> From: cengles at cox.net
> To: kenn_green at yahoo.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID: <17c417a.9bf05.145ce1472d3.Webtop.0 at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
>
> Dear Ken,
>
>
> Ach dul Lieber! My mistake. I said Rollmaster and I
> meant Romac. It is a good balancer. I know they make one for the
> Cleveland. The one I had did have four holes and bolted right up with
> all the other parts. I don't recall any diameter issues, although the
> aftermarket balancers can be a larger than stock and require a
different
> timing marker and/or a bit of gentle grinding on the lower aspect of
the
> water pump in the event of "interference" between the parts.
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Ken Green wrote:
>
>
> I thought people liked the Romac damper:
>
>
>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C
-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659
>
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-
C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
>
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-
C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
>
>
>
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-
C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
> Are there diameter issues, 3 bolt vs 4 bolt pattern, etc?
>
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-
C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
>
>
>
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-
C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
> Ken
>
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-
C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
>
>
>
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-
C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
>
>
>
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-
C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
>
>
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-
C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659>
> From: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
>
> Dear Boyd,
>
> There are lots of options. I would not recommend the
> Rattler type balancer, although it might do well in a stock or mildly
> modified application. You could simply get a Ford replacement or
> equivalent aftermarket stock type replacement if economy is
paramount.
>
> The best ones that I am familiar with are ATI, BHJ and
> Rollmaster (IIRC). I recently bought a BHJ harmonic balancer and it
> was a little less than $300. ATI and Rollmaster are in the same range
I
> believe.
>
> I suppose that in terms of bang for the buck a stock
> type replacement would be adequate for most uses. If your mildly
> modified engine gets flogged, then it I would recommend one of the
above
> balancers. They're relatively expensive for a boring engine part, but
a
> good balancer.......is still boring, but better in the long run for
hipo
> engines.
>
> FWIW, Chuck Engles
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Boyd Casey wrote:
>
> > I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed
a
> > wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm
sure
> > if i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is
> > the consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a
Pantera
> > with 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to
> > spend more money then is necessary , but I also don't want junk.
Any
> > pointers or suggestions? Thanks, Boyd
> >
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>
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>
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>
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> Dear Ken,
>
> Ach dul Lieber! My mistake. I said Rollmaster and I
> meant Romac. It is a good balancer. I know they make one for the
> Cleveland. The one I had did have four holes and bolted right up with
> all the other parts. I don't recall any diameter issues, although the
> aftermarket balancers can be a larger than stock and require a
> different timing marker and/or a bit of gentle grinding on the lower
> aspect of the water pump in the event of "interference" between the
> parts.
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Ken Green wrote:
>
>
>
> I thought people liked the Romac damper:
>
>
[1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Clevelan
> d-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659
>
> Are there diameter issues, 3 bolt vs 4 bolt pattern, etc?
>
> Ken
>
> From: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>
>
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:00 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
>
> Dear Boyd,
>
> There are lots of options. I would not recommend the
>
> Rattler type balancer, although it might do well in a stock or mildly
>
> modified application. You could simply get a Ford replacement or
>
> equivalent aftermarket stock type replacement if economy is
paramount.
>
> The best ones that I am familiar with are ATI, BHJ and
>
> Rollmaster (IIRC). I recently bought a BHJ harmonic balancer and it
>
> was a little less than $300. ATI and Rollmaster are in the same range
> I
>
> believe.
>
> I suppose that in terms of bang for the buck a stock
>
> type replacement would be adequate for most uses. If your mildly
>
> modified engine gets flogged, then it I would recommend one of the
> above
>
> balancers. They're relatively expensive for a boring engine part, but
> a
>
> good balancer.......is still boring, but better in the long run for
> hipo
>
> engines.
>
> FWIW, Chuck Engles
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Boyd Casey wrote:
>
> > I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed
a
>
> > wide
>
> > range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if
i
>
> > tried
>
> > I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> consensus
>
> > as
>
> > far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351
>
> > Cleveland
>
> > that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money
then
>
> > is
>
> > necessary , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or
suggestions?
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Boyd
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ------------------------------
>
> >
>
> > _______________________________________________
>
> >
>
> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>
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>
> > DeTomaso mailing list
>
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>
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>
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>
> References
>
> Visible links
> 1.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 14:57:25 -0700
> From: Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, Boyd Casey
> <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> Message-ID: <BLU170-W42CE8CE1E1AA753D080ECDD24C0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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> Here's what I should have said, Nice seats check these out
http://classiccarseats.com. I like the Nurbergring syle, I believe they
were used in some early panteras
>
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 15:54:47 -0400
> From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com; ollerabmut at msn.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> The deletion of the logo was not extra as I recall.
>
> The holes were extra, but not much.
>
> I can't remember if they are partial leather or all vinyl. I'm not at
home
> right now, so I can't look. I remember that full leather was much
more
> expensive. They might even send them out to be recovered in leather.
>
> The biggest recommendation I can make to anyone is to try lots of
seats.
> Sit in as many as possible. We are all built differently, and we have
> different preferences. I love the LG1 seats. There were many other
seats
> that I didn't like.
> --
> Will
>
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 12:52 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> Will,
> They look very nice. Very similar to the seats I have now (except
mine are
> nock offs sold as "Real Leather" that were in fact vinyl ! What are
your
> seats upholstered in? Was the deletion of the Corbeau logo an extra
cost
> option? Did you get the submarine hole added? I have noticed that
Corbeau
> also offer an option the have the seat cushion height shaved an inch
for
> $45. I think that would help with the height issue. I am looking at
the
> Corbeau CR1 in black Leather )another nice thing about the corbeau
leather
> option is that the entire seat (front and back) is upholstered in
leather .
> Most people don't realize that even when you get leather upholstery
from the
> factory in most makes only the seat faces are actually leather with
the
> remainder of the seat in Vinyl.
>
> On a side note it always struck me as amusing that for years
> Mercedes Benz has been selling there expensive cars with upholstery
called
> "MB Tex" which is a trade marked name for the Vinyl that Mercedes
uses. I
> wonder how many of the deep pocketed MB buyers would have made the
same
> choices if the knew that their new Mercedes had Vinyl interior (
Mercedes
> does offer leather as an option on the less expensive models but it
is
> standard on their flagship s-class and even has two levels of napa
leather
> upgrades) I must admit that MB MB Tex is the best vinyl interior I
have ever
> experienced .
>
> Boyd
>
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Will Kooiman
<will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Boyd ? the stock seats were comfortable, but they are too flat. I
always had
> > a tough time in corners with my butt sliding all over the place.
> >
> > My Corbeau LG1s are a major upgrade to the stock seats. They do not
look like
> > 90% of the online photos of Corbeau seats. They look like they
belong in the
> > car. You can order Corbeau seats with a lot of options ? materials,
with or
> > without harness holes, colors, etc. These options either make the
seat look
> > like they were done by the factory or like they were done by a
clown.
> >
> > There's a pic on this forum:
> > http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71547
> >
> > Except that my seats do not have the Corbeau logo, and they are all
black.
> >
> > The LG1 seats feel very similar to my wife's 2013 Boxster. I don't
know how
> > comfortable they will be on a long trip, but comfortable or not,
the side
> > support will be worth it.
> >
> >
> > From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> > Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014 12:25 AM
> > To: Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> > Cc: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> > <detomaso at poca.com>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >
> > Will,
> > Did you think the stock Pantera seats were more comfortable? I find
the add
> > support of the bolsters to make a huge difference in hard
cornering. There is
> > a reason all modern performance cars use seats of similar design.I
think your
> > seats look great in your car. Thanks for sharing your experience
with me.
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >> Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those
different
> >> fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have
Recaro style
> >> seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or FIA sanctioned.
I have six
> >> point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat isn't effective at
maintaining the
> >> six point harness in the proper position . In the event of an
accident it is
> >> extremely important (IMHO) to have a properly positioned submarine
belt and
> >> in order for it to be placed in the correct position you must have
have an
> >> anchor point that goes through the seat ( not wrapped forward
around the
> >> front of the seat. Improper positioning of multi point harnesses
(5 or 6) can
> >> result in serious injury or death. So despite your preference for
the
> >> aesthetic appeal of the stock seat if you plan on doing more with
your
> >> Pantera then car shows then it is essential that you optimize your
car to
> >> provide the maximum in safety . Aside from the safety issues I
happen to like
> >> (in fact prefer the look of a recaro style seat). If I wanted a
Pantera
> >> solely for a car collection I would have kept it stock. Now I want
seats that
> >> not only provide a more stable driving position (like a Recaro
style seat)
> >> but one that is also FIA approved ( like an authentic Recaro,
Corbeau or
> >> Sparco) and is built to a higher quality standard.
> >> Boyd
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello
<ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
> >>> You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would
take
> >>> place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest
seat in a
> >>> pantera just looks wrong. Just an opinion
> >>>
> >>>> > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
> >>>> > From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> >>>> > To: boyd411 at gmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
> >>>
> >>>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body,
and they
> >>>> > look proper in the Pantera.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or
through a
> >>>> > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out,
and order
> >>>> > local.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough
rails and a
> >>>> > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>>> > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was
wondering
> if
> >>>>> > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau
seats that
> >>>>> > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and
a fixed
> >>>>> > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like
the
> >>>>> Recaro
> >>>>> > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may
add some
> >>>>> much
> >>>>> > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style"
seats
> >>>>> > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then
the
> >>>>> "Fixed
> >>>>> > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a
helmet.I
> >>>>> know
> >>>>> > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many
high end
> >>>>> cars
> >>>>> > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in
their
> >>>>> > > Panteras or other cars?
> >>>>> > > Thanks,
> >>>>> > > Boyd
> >>>>> > >_______________________________________________
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> >>>>> > >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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>
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> Here's what I should have said, Nice seats check these out
> [1]http://classiccarseats.com. I like the Nurbergring syle, I believe
> they were used in some early panteras
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 15:54:47 -0400
> From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com; ollerabmut at msn.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> The deletion of the logo was not extra as I recall.
>
> The holes were extra, but not much.
>
> I can't remember if they are partial leather or all vinyl. I'm not at
home
> right now, so I can't look. I remember that full leather was much
more
> expensive. They might even send them out to be recovered in leather.
>
> The biggest recommendation I can make to anyone is to try lots of
seats.
> Sit in as many as possible. We are all built differently, and we have
> different preferences. I love the LG1 seats. There were many other
seats
> that I didn't like.
> --
> Will
>
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 12:52 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> Will,
> They look very nice. Very similar to the seats I have now (except
mine are
> nock offs sold as "Real Leather" that were in fact vinyl ! What are
your
> seats upholstered in? Was the deletion of the Corbeau logo an extra
cost
> option? Did you get the submarine hole added? I have noticed that
Corbeau
> also offer an option the have the seat cushion height shaved an inch
for
> $45. I think that would help with the height issue. I am looking at
the
> Corbeau CR1 in black Leather )another nice thing about the corbeau
leather
> option is that the entire seat (front and back) is upholstered in
leather .
> Most people don't realize that even when you get leather upholstery
from the
> factory in most makes only the seat faces are actually leather with
the
> remainder of the seat in Vinyl.
>
> On a side note it always struck me as amusing that for years
> Mercedes Benz has been selling there expensive cars with upholstery
called
> "MB Tex" which is a trade marked name for the Vinyl that Mercedes
uses. I
> wonder how many of the deep pocketed MB buyers would have made the
same
> choices if the knew that their new Mercedes had Vinyl interior (
Mercedes
> does offer leather as an option on the less expensive models but it
is
> standard on their flagship s-class and even has two levels of napa
leather
> upgrades) I must admit that MB MB Tex is the best vinyl interior I
have ever
> experienced .
>
> Boyd
>
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Will Kooiman
<will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Boyd the stock seats were comfortable, but they are too flat. I
always had
> > a tough time in corners with my butt sliding all over the place.
> >
> > My Corbeau LG1s are a major upgrade to the stock seats. They do not
look like
> > 90% of the online photos of Corbeau seats. They look like they
belong in the
> > car. You can order Corbeau seats with a lot of options materials,
with or
> > without harness holes, colors, etc. These options either make the
seat look
> > like they were done by the factory or like they were done by a
clown.
> >
> > There's a pic on this forum:
> > [2]http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71547
> >
> > Except that my seats do not have the Corbeau logo, and they are all
black.
> >
> > The LG1 seats feel very similar to my wife's 2013 Boxster. I don't
know how
> > comfortable they will be on a long trip, but comfortable or not,
the side
> > support will be worth it.
> >
> >
> > From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> > Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014 12:25 AM
> > To: Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> > Cc: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> > <detomaso at poca.com>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >
> > Will,
> > Did you think the stock Pantera seats were more comfortable? I find
the add
> > support of the bolsters to make a huge difference in hard
cornering. There is
> > a reason all modern performance cars use seats of similar design.I
think your
> > seats look great in your car. Thanks for sharing your experience
with me.
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >> Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those
different
> >> fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have
Recaro style
> >> seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or FIA sanctioned.
I have six
> >> point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat isn't effective at
maintaining the
> >> six point harness in the proper position . In the event of an
accident it is
> >> extremely important (IMHO) to have a properly positioned submarine
belt and
> >> in order for it to be placed in the correct position you must have
have an
> >> anchor point that goes through the seat ( not wrapped forward
around the
> >> front of the seat. Improper positioning of multi point harnesses
(5 or 6) can
> >> result in serious injury or death. So despite your preference for
the
> >> aesthetic appeal of the stock seat if you plan on doing more with
your
> >> Pantera then car shows then it is essential that you optimize your
car to
> >> provide the maximum in safety . Aside from the safety issues I
happen to like
> >> (in fact prefer the look of a recaro style seat). If I wanted a
Pantera
> >> solely for a car collection I would have kept it stock. Now I want
seats that
> >> not only provide a more stable driving position (like a Recaro
style seat)
> >> but one that is also FIA approved ( like an authentic Recaro,
Corbeau or
> >> Sparco) and is built to a higher quality standard.
> >> Boyd
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello
<ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
> >>> You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would
take
> >>> place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest
seat in a
> >>> pantera just looks wrong. Just an opinion
> >>>
> >>>> > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
> >>>> > From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> >>>> > To: boyd411 at gmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
> >>>
> >>>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body,
and they
> >>>> > look proper in the Pantera.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or
through a
> >>>> > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out,
and order
> >>>> > local.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough
rails and a
> >>>> > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>>> > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was
wondering
> if
> >>>>> > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau
seats that
> >>>>> > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and
a fixed
> >>>>> > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like
the
> >>>>> Recaro
> >>>>> > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may
add some
> >>>>> much
> >>>>> > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style"
seats
> >>>>> > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then
the
> >>>>> "Fixed
> >>>>> > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a
helmet.I
> >>>>> know
> >>>>> > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many
high end
> >>>>> cars
> >>>>> > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in
their
> >>>>> > > Panteras or other cars?
> >>>>> > > Thanks,
> >>>>> > > Boyd
> >>>>> > >_______________________________________________
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > >DeTomaso mailing list
> >>>>> > >DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>>>> > >[3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > _______________________________________________
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>> >
> >>>> > DeTomaso mailing list
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> >>>> > [4]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
>
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> References
>
> 1. http://classiccarseats.com/
> 2. http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71547
> 3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 4. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:59:20 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Tom Shinrock <tmshinro at aol.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Ride
> Message-ID: <8D136C466E7CCD8-F7C-9B47 at webmail-va034.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Anybody have an empty seat that they would be willing share when
going to the various fun rally events?
>
> This is my third fun rally but the first time that I won't have a
car. I'm trying to decide if I need to rent a car but it would be more
fun to ride in a Pantera. I just don't know how tough it would be to
find a ride.
>
> I welcome opinions on what I should do.
>
> Tom
> 5186
>
>
> -------------- next part --------------
> Anybody have an empty seat that they would be willing share when
going
> to the various fun rally events?
> This is my third fun rally but the first time that I won't have a
car.
> I'm trying to decide if I need to rent a car but it would be more fun
> to ride in a Pantera. I just don't know how tough it would be to find
> a ride.
> I welcome opinions on what I should do.
> Tom
> 5186
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 15:02:07 -0700
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: Tom Shinrock <tmshinro at aol.com>, Pantera list serve
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ride
> Message-ID: <SNT146-W90B42A86212FF27B5B034BBC4C0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> My family will be with me through Thursday, but I'll be on my own
when they fly out on Friday, so I'll have a seat open Friday and
Saturday.
> Sincerely,
> Chris
>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> From: tmshinro at aol.com
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:59:20 -0400
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Ride
>
> Anybody have an empty seat that they would be willing share when
going to the various fun rally events?
>
> This is my third fun rally but the first time that I won't have a
car. I'm trying to decide if I need to rent a car but it would be more
fun to ride in a Pantera. I just don't know how tough it would be to
find a ride.
>
> I welcome opinions on what I should do.
>
> Tom
> 5186
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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> My family will be with me through Thursday, but I'll be on my own
when
> they fly out on Friday, so I'll have a seat open Friday and Saturday.
> Sincerely,
> Chris
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> From: tmshinro at aol.com
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:59:20 -0400
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Ride
> Anybody have an empty seat that they would be willing share when
going to the va
> rious fun rally events?
>
> This is my third fun rally but the first time that I won't have a
car. I'm tryi
> ng to decide if I need to rent a car but it would be more fun to ride
in a Pante
> ra. I just don't know how tough it would be to find a ride.
>
> I welcome opinions on what I should do.
>
> Tom
> 5186
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 07:01:25 -0400
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, <boyd411 at gmail.com>, <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> Message-ID: <CF8CE6DA.A791%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
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>
> I tried on Friday, but it was over the 1.5MB limit.
>
> Here it is again at 1.4MB.
>
> The harness holes are even with the location of the harness bar.
>
> The seats aren't lined up correctly because they're not attached yet.
I had
> the floor pans dropped, but I can't attach the seats the way they
were done.
> I'm trying to decide how to handle that one.
>
> From: <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Date: Sunday, May 4, 2014 11:38 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, <boyd411 at gmail.com>,
> <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> Cc: <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
>
> In a message dated 5/4/14 20 08 11, will.kooiman at gmail.com writes:
>
>
> >
> > Except that my seats do not have the Corbeau logo, and they are all
black.
>
>
> >>>Can you post a pic of your seats in your car?
>
> Mike
>
>
> -------------- next part --------------
> I tried on Friday, but it was over the 1.5MB limit.
>
> Here it is again at 1.4MB.
>
> The harness holes are even with the location of the harness bar.
>
> The seats aren't lined up correctly because they're not attached yet.
> I had the floor pans dropped, but I can't attach the seats the way
they
> were done. I'm trying to decide how to handle that one.
>
> From: <[1]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Date: Sunday, May 4, 2014 11:38 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <[2]will.kooiman at gmail.com>, <[3]boyd411 at gmail.com>,
> <[4]ollerabmut at msn.com>
> Cc: <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> In a message dated 5/4/14 20 08 11, [6]will.kooiman at gmail.com writes:
>
> Except that my seats do not have the Corbeau logo, and they are all
> black.
>
> >>>Can you post a pic of your seats in your car?
> Mike
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
> 2. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 3. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 4. mailto:ollerabmut at msn.com
> 5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 6. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 19:21:23 -0400
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Ron <ron at teamecc.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Sniping
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> You are reintroducing a non issue. Mark and I have dropped the
pursuit of
> our difference of opinion. Respectfully I suggest you do the same.
> Boyd
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Ron <ron at teamecc.com> wrote:
>
> > Maybe Mark and Boyd could keep their personal Sniping at each
> >
> > other off the Forum site. Just my opinion.
> >
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> You are reintroducing a non issue. Mark and I have dropped the
pursuit
> of our difference of opinion. Respectfully I suggest you do the same.
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Ron <[1]ron at teamecc.com> wrote:
>
> A A A Maybe Mark and Boyd could keep their personal Sniping at
> each
> A A other off the Forum site. Just my opinion.
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 19:24:42 -0400
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Mirril M. McMullen" <mirrilm at earthlink.net>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>, "michael at michaelshortt.com"
> <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
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> It won't help you Will cause you have already purchased your seats ,
but on
> the seats I am considering (The CR1 formerly the carrera) is
available with
> an additional 1" shaved off the bottom for an additional $49.00.
> Boyd
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > You want brackets for a 911. It is very flat, and the 911 has a
flat
> > floor pan, which matches the Pantera.
> >
> > But it might not be low enough. That's what I'm dealing with right
now.
> > My seat isn't quite low enough, but I haven't tried with it
actually
> > bolted to the bracket. I need to spend some time mocking it up to
see
> > what needs to move.
> >
> > But like I said, if you want a bracket - check out the one for a
911.
> > Otherwise, bolt it to the floor.
> > --
> > Will
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/5/14 2:51 PM, "michael at michaelshortt.com"
<michael at michaelshortt.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have attached the bracket guide.
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
> > > <[1]mirrilm at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Michael,
> > > I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that
> > > Corbeau make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the
> > > seats are a good value.
> > > I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if
there
> > > was a Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile)
for
> > > the Pantera.
> > > Let us know your thoughts.
> > > #6859 WAYBAC
> > > /\/\
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> > > [3]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
> > > To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> > > Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only
> > > orders.
> > > (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old prices
(
> > > [5]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been
asked to
> > > become a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to
get the
> > > BEST pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail
now,
> > > see the Corbeau website for current pricing.
> > > But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my
Pantera
> > > friends.
> > > So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and
if we
> > > can get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
> > > Michael Shortt
> > > --
> > > Michael L. Shortt
> > > Savannah, Georgia
> > > [6]www.michaelshortt.com
> > > [7]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > > [8]912-232-9390
> > > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
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> > > 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
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> > > notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or
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> > > this communication is strictly prohibited. A Please reply to the
sender
> > > that you have received this message in error, then delete it. A
Thank
> > > you
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael L. Shortt
> > > Savannah, Georgia
> > > [9]www.michaelshortt.com
> > > [10]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > > 912-232-9390
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> > > 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> > > 3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> > > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> > > 5. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> > > 6. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > > 7. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> > > 8. tel:912-232-9390
> > > 9. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
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> It won't help you Will cause you have already purchased your seats ,
> but on the seats I am considering (The CR1 formerly the carrera) is
> available with an additional 1" shaved off the bottom A for an
> additional $49.00.
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Will Kooiman
> <[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You want brackets for a 911. A It is very flat, and the 911 has a
> flat
> floor pan, which matches the Pantera.
> But it might not be low enough. A That's what I'm dealing with right
> now.
> My seat isn't quite low enough, but I haven't tried with it actually
> bolted to the bracket. A I need to spend some time mocking it up to
> see
> what needs to move.
> But like I said, if you want a bracket - check out the one for a
> 911.
> Otherwise, bolt it to the floor.
> --
> Will
> On 5/5/14 2:51 PM, "[2]michael at michaelshortt.com"
> <[3]michael at michaelshortt.com>
> wrote:
>
> > A I have attached the bracket guide.
> >
> > A On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
> > A <[1][4]mirrilm at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > A A Michael,
> > A A I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that
> > A A Corbeau make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the
> > A A seats are a good value.
> > A A I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if
> there
> > A A was a Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile)
> for
> > A A the Pantera.
> > A A Let us know your thoughts.
> > A A #6859 WAYBAC
> > A A /\/\
> >
> > A -----Original Message-----
> > A From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2][5]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > A [3][6]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
> > A To: [4][7]detomaso at poca.com
> > A Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> > A Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only
> > A orders.
> > A (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old prices
> (
> > A [5][8]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been
> asked to
> > A become a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to
> get the
> > A BEST pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail
> now,
> > A see the Corbeau website for current pricing.
> > A But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my
> Pantera
> > A friends.
> > A So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and
if
> we
> > A can get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
> > A Michael Shortt
> > A --
> > A Michael L. Shortt
> > A Savannah, Georgia
> > A [6][9]www.michaelshortt.com
> > A [7][10]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A [8]912-232-9390
> > A This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
> Act,
> > A 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> > A privileged. A If you are not the intended recipient, you are
> hereby
> > A notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or
> copying of
> > A this communication is strictly prohibited. A Please reply to the
> sender
> > A that you have received this message in error, then delete it. A
> Thank
> > A you
> >
> > A --
> > A Michael L. Shortt
> > A Savannah, Georgia
> > A [9][11]www.michaelshortt.com
> > A [10][12]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A [13]912-232-9390
> > A A
> > A This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
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this
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> >
> >References
> >
> > A 1. mailto:[14]mirrilm at earthlink.net
> > A 2. mailto:[15]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> > A 3. mailto:[16]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A 4. mailto:[17]detomaso at poca.com
> > A 5. [18]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> > A 6. [19]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > A 7. mailto:[20]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A 8. tel:[21]912-232-9390
> > A 9. [22]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > A 10. mailto:[23]michael at michaelshortt.com
>
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> References
>
> 1. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 2. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 4. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 6. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 7. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 8. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> 9. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 10. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 11. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 12. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 13. tel:912-232-9390
> 14. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 15. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 16. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 17. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 18. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> 19. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 20. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 21. tel:912-232-9390
> 22. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 23. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 24. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 25. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 26. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 27. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
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>
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 19:29:20 -0400
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Mirril M. McMullen" <mirrilm at earthlink.net>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>, "michael at michaelshortt.com"
> <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Corbeau has a flat bracket listed under their" Universal fit "
brackets.
> Here is a link:Corbeau Universal mount Flat
> bracket<http://www.racing-seats-usa.com/universal.html>
>
> Hope this helps.
> Boyd
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It won't help you Will cause you have already purchased your seats
, but
> > on the seats I am considering (The CR1 formerly the carrera) is
available
> > with an additional 1" shaved off the bottom for an additional
$49.00.
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Will Kooiman
<will.kooiman at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> You want brackets for a 911. It is very flat, and the 911 has a
flat
> >> floor pan, which matches the Pantera.
> >>
> >> But it might not be low enough. That's what I'm dealing with right
now.
> >> My seat isn't quite low enough, but I haven't tried with it
actually
> >> bolted to the bracket. I need to spend some time mocking it up to
see
> >> what needs to move.
> >>
> >> But like I said, if you want a bracket - check out the one for a
911.
> >> Otherwise, bolt it to the floor.
> >> --
> >> Will
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/5/14 2:51 PM, "michael at michaelshortt.com"
<michael at michaelshortt.com
> >> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have attached the bracket guide.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
> >> > <[1]mirrilm at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Michael,
> >> > I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that
> >> > Corbeau make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the
> >> > seats are a good value.
> >> > I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if
there
> >> > was a Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile)
for
> >> > the Pantera.
> >> > Let us know your thoughts.
> >> > #6859 WAYBAC
> >> > /\/\
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
Of
> >> > [3]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
> >> > To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> >> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> >> > Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only
> >> > orders.
> >> > (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old
prices (
> >> > [5]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been
asked to
> >> > become a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to
get
> >> the
> >> > BEST pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail
now,
> >> > see the Corbeau website for current pricing.
> >> > But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my
Pantera
> >> > friends.
> >> > So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and
if we
> >> > can get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
> >> > Michael Shortt
> >> > --
> >> > Michael L. Shortt
> >> > Savannah, Georgia
> >> > [6]www.michaelshortt.com
> >> > [7]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >> > [8]912-232-9390
> >> > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
Act,
> >> > 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> >> > privileged. A If you are not the intended recipient, you are
hereby
> >> > notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or
copying of
> >> > this communication is strictly prohibited. A Please reply to the
> >> sender
> >> > that you have received this message in error, then delete it. A
Thank
> >> > you
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Michael L. Shortt
> >> > Savannah, Georgia
> >> > [9]www.michaelshortt.com
> >> > [10]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >> > 912-232-9390
> >> > A
> >> > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
> >> > Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
legally
> >> > privileged.A If you are not the intended recipient, you are
hereby
> >> > notified
> >> > that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of
this
> >> > communication is strictly prohibited.A Please reply to the
sender
> >> that
> >> > you
> >> > have received this message in error, then delete it.A Thank you
> >> >
> >> >References
> >> >
> >> > 1. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> >> > 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> >> > 3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >> > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >> > 5. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> >> > 6. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >> > 7. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >> > 8. tel:912-232-9390
> >> > 9. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >> > 10. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
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> Corbeau has a flat bracket listed under their" Universal fit "
> brackets. Here is a link:[1]Corbeau Universal mount Flat bracket
> Hope this helps.
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Boyd Casey <[2]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> It won't help you Will cause you have already purchased your seats ,
> but on the seats I am considering (The CR1 formerly the carrera) is
> available with an additional 1" shaved off the bottom A for an
> additional $49.00.
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Will Kooiman
> <[3]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You want brackets for a 911. A It is very flat, and the 911 has a
> flat
> floor pan, which matches the Pantera.
> But it might not be low enough. A That's what I'm dealing with right
> now.
> My seat isn't quite low enough, but I haven't tried with it actually
> bolted to the bracket. A I need to spend some time mocking it up to
> see
> what needs to move.
> But like I said, if you want a bracket - check out the one for a
> 911.
> Otherwise, bolt it to the floor.
> --
> Will
> On 5/5/14 2:51 PM, "[4]michael at michaelshortt.com"
> <[5]michael at michaelshortt.com>
> wrote:
>
> > A I have attached the bracket guide.
> >
> > A On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
> > A <[1][6]mirrilm at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > A A Michael,
> > A A I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that
> > A A Corbeau make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the
> > A A seats are a good value.
> > A A I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if
> there
> > A A was a Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile)
> for
> > A A the Pantera.
> > A A Let us know your thoughts.
> > A A #6859 WAYBAC
> > A A /\/\
> >
> > A -----Original Message-----
> > A From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2][7]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > A [3][8]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
> > A To: [4][9]detomaso at poca.com
> > A Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> > A Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only
> > A orders.
> > A (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old prices
> (
> > A [5][10]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been
> asked to
> > A become a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to
> get the
> > A BEST pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail
> now,
> > A see the Corbeau website for current pricing.
> > A But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my
> Pantera
> > A friends.
> > A So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and
if
> we
> > A can get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
> > A Michael Shortt
> > A --
> > A Michael L. Shortt
> > A Savannah, Georgia
> > A [6][11]www.michaelshortt.com
> > A [7][12]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A [8]912-232-9390
> > A This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
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> > A privileged. A If you are not the intended recipient, you are
> hereby
> > A notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or
> copying of
> > A this communication is strictly prohibited. A Please reply to the
> sender
> > A that you have received this message in error, then delete it. A
> Thank
> > A you
> >
> > A --
> > A Michael L. Shortt
> > A Savannah, Georgia
> > A [9][13]www.michaelshortt.com
> > A [10][14]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A [15]912-232-9390
> > A A
> > A This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
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> >
> >References
> >
> > A 1. mailto:[16]mirrilm at earthlink.net
> > A 2. mailto:[17]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> > A 3. mailto:[18]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A 4. mailto:[19]detomaso at poca.com
> > A 5. [20]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> > A 6. [21]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > A 7. mailto:[22]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > A 8. tel:[23]912-232-9390
> > A 9. [24]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > A 10. mailto:[25]michael at michaelshortt.com
>
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> References
>
> 1. http://www.racing-seats-usa.com/universal.html
> 2. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 3. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 4. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 5. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 6. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 7. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 8. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 10. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> 11. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 12. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 13. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 14. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 15. tel:912-232-9390
> 16. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 17. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 18. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 19. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 20. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> 21. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 22. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 23. tel:912-232-9390
> 24. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 25. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 26. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 27. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 28. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 29. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 18:56:57 -0700
> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> To: "'DeTomaso Mail List'" <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Cc: 'John Buckman' <jb841 at icloud.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA Fun Rally Raffle - Chapter and Individual
> Donations
> Message-ID: <015701cf68ce$76cbc090$646341b0$@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Last call! All aboard!!
>
> If your POCA Chapter or you individually have any items you wish to
donate
> to the POCA Fun Rally, and you need to ship them ahead so you don't
have to
> lug them with you, please have them delivered to John Buckman in San
Diego
> no later than Friday, May 23rd. The Fun Rally comes right on the
heels of
> the holiday weekend, and I'd hate for anyone's donation to get lost
in the
> confusion.
>
> Please ship to:
> POCA Fun Rally Raffle
> C/O John Buckman
> 738 Crest View Road
> Vista, CA 92081
> 760-420-4036
>
> Please contact John to let him know what is coming so he can keep an
> inventory. Sorry I'm not going to see all of you at this years' Rally
to
> say thank you in person, but my wife and I will be in Peru touring
the Machu
> Pichu and the Sacred Valley of the Incas the same week. Darn . . .
>
> Our sincerest thanks!
> Mike Thomas
> VP, POCA
> VP, Panteras Northwest
> Yellow '74 #6328
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 22:07:33 -0400
> From: Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> To: 'Boyd Casey' <boyd411 at gmail.com>, detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID: <029d01cf68cf$f1d23d40$d576b7c0$@optonline.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
balancer. Like the one from Pioneer for $176. See summit racing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
Casey
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
>
> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if
i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with
351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more
money then is necessary , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or
suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Boyd
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 22:27:08 -0400
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID:
> <CALsQ=csPX_GYe2iYgBp_qij0r=cA9DGvo2cCdmGVdmSCpEbJVw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge
of them
> is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
balanced ,
> SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what do they
mean as
> far as performance or other factors that would be important ?
> Boyd
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
<tonydigi at optonline.net>wrote:
>
> > I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> > balancer. Like the one from Pioneer for $176. See summit racing.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Boyd
Casey
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> >
> > I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed
a wide
> > range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if
i tried
> > I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
consensus as
> > far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351
Cleveland
> > that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money
then is
> > necessary , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or
suggestions?
> > Thanks,
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
> The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge
of
> them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
> balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what
> do they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> important ?
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> <[1]tonydigi at optonline.net> wrote:
>
> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> balancer. A Like the one from Pioneer for $176. A See summit racing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Boyd
> Casey
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> To: [3]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure
if
> i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera
with
> 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend
more
> money then is necessary A , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers
or
> suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Boyd
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 22:36:58 -0400
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID:
> <CALsQ=cuH_+BTHz+zjVWSFRkJ9crB81uubJEF0Z4tesQFhk7r7g at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I just did some reading up on harmonic balancers and the post i read
said
> the the balancer had to be press fit onto the crank. Can this be done
with
> the motor in the car?
> Boyd
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge
of
> > them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and
external
> > balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and
what do
> > they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
important ?
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
<tonydigi at optonline.net>wrote:
> >
> >> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> >> balancer. Like the one from Pioneer for $176. See summit racing.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Boyd Casey
> >> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> >> To: detomaso at poca.com
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> >>
> >> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed
a wide
> >> range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if
i tried
> >> I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
consensus as
> >> far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351
Cleveland
> >> that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money
then is
> >> necessary , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or
suggestions?
> >> Thanks,
> >> Boyd
> >>
> >>
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
> I just did some reading up on harmonic balancers and the post i read
> said the the balancer had to be press fit onto the crank. Can this be
> done with the motor in the car?
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge
of
> them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
> balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what
> do they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> important ?
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> <[2]tonydigi at optonline.net> wrote:
>
> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> balancer. A Like the one from Pioneer for $176. A See summit racing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Boyd
> Casey
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure
if
> i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera
with
> 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend
more
> money then is necessary A , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers
or
> suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Boyd
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 2. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> 3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 21:50:22 -0500
> From: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> To: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Cc: TPR <teampantera at yahoo.com>, TPR Forum
<tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] A Pantera on the track
> Message-ID: <3E53BFD1-6021-4BEF-BCF2-4AB0F17F8E5D at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
>
> Always getting hassled by the Dawg about driving the cars?. the poor
guy can?t handle the Detomaso list anymore, so I?ll have to send it to
him directly.
> :-)))
>
> I posted this to the local Houston club list, but thought maybe some
others would like it...
> At least you can view my lousy driving?.
> The car with the video camera is an RX7 with an LS1 in it.
>
> http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U
>
> And, if you don?t like Panteras?.
>
> http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
>
> FWIW,
> Kirby
>
> -------------- next part --------------
> Always getting hassled by the Dawg about driving the cars.... the
poor
> guy can't handle the Detomaso list anymore, so I'll have to send it
to
> him directly.
>
> :-)))
>
> I posted this to the local Houston club list, but thought maybe some
> others would like it...
>
> At least you can view my lousy driving....
>
> The car with the video camera is an RX7 with an LS1 in it.
>
> [1]http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U
>
> And, if you don't like Panteras....
>
> [2]http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
>
> FWIW,
>
> Kirby
>
> References
>
> 1. http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U
> 2. http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 19:55:12 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>, Tony DiGiovanna
> <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID:
> <1399344912.76167.YahooMailNeo at web162506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Unless you have a high end race motor, your 351C is a 28 oz external
balance.??
>
> Ken
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 7:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
>
>
> ? The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge
of
> ? them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and
external
> ? balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and
what
> ? do they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> ? important ?
> ? Boyd
>
> ? On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> ? <[1]tonydigi at optonline.net> wrote:
>
> ? ? I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional
harmonic
> ? ? balancer. A Like the one from Pioneer for $176. A See summit
racing.
>
> ? -----Original Message-----
> ? From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Boyd
> ? Casey
> ? Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> ? To: [3]detomaso at poca.com
> ? Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> ? I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed
a
> ? wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm
sure if
> ? i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is
the
> ? consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera
with
> ? 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend
more
> ? money then is necessary A , but I also don't want junk. Any
pointers or
> ? suggestions?
> ? Thanks,
> ? Boyd
>
> References
>
> ? 1. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> ? 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> ? 3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>
> DeTomaso mailing list
> DeTomaso at poca.com
> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> -------------- next part --------------
> Unless you have a high end race motor, your 351C is a 28 oz external
> balance.
> Ken
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 7:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge
> of
> them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
> balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what
> do they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> important ?
> Boyd
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> <[1][1]tonydigi at optonline.net> wrote:
> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> balancer. A Like the one from Pioneer for $176. A See summit
> racing.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2][2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> Boyd
> Casey
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> To: [3][3]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure
> if
> i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera
> with
> 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend
> more
> money then is necessary A , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers
> or
> suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Boyd
> References
> 1. mailto:[4]tonydigi at optonline.net
> 2. mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 3. mailto:[6]detomaso at poca.com
> _______________________________________________
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> DeTomaso mailing list
> [7]DeTomaso at poca.com
> [8]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 4. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> 5. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 7. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 8. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 22:55:29 -0400
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Mirril M. McMullen" <mirrilm at earthlink.net>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>, "michael at michaelshortt.com"
> <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> Message-ID: <CF8DC6E7.A911%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I have the C22059 bracket. It is very low, but like I said, I can't
offer
> feedback about how well it works.
>
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 7:29 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>, "Mirril
M.
> McMullen" <mirrilm at earthlink.net>, "detomaso at poca.com"
<detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
>
> Corbeau has a flat bracket listed under their" Universal fit "
brackets.
> Here is a link:Corbeau Universal mount Flat bracket
> <http://www.racing-seats-usa.com/universal.html>
>
> Hope this helps.
> Boyd
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > It won't help you Will cause you have already purchased your seats
, but on
> > the seats I am considering (The CR1 formerly the carrera) is
available with an
> > additional 1" shaved off the bottom for an additional $49.00.
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Will Kooiman
<will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> You want brackets for a 911. It is very flat, and the 911 has a
flat
> >> floor pan, which matches the Pantera.
> >>
> >> But it might not be low enough. That's what I'm dealing with right
now.
> >> My seat isn't quite low enough, but I haven't tried with it
actually
> >> bolted to the bracket. I need to spend some time mocking it up to
see
> >> what needs to move.
> >>
> >> But like I said, if you want a bracket - check out the one for a
911.
> >> Otherwise, bolt it to the floor.
> >> --
> >> Will
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/5/14 2:51 PM, "michael at michaelshortt.com"
<michael at michaelshortt.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> > I have attached the bracket guide.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
> >>> > <[1]mirrilm at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Michael,
> >>> > I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that
> >>> > Corbeau make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the
> >>> > seats are a good value.
> >>> > I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if
there
> >>> > was a Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile)
for
> >>> > the Pantera.
> >>> > Let us know your thoughts.
> >>> > #6859 WAYBAC
> >>> > /\/\
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf
Of
> >>> > [3]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
> >>> > To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> >>> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> >>> > Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website
only
> >>> > orders.
> >>> > (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old
prices (
> >>> > [5]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been
asked to
> >>> > become a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to
get the
> >>> > BEST pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off
retail now,
> >>> > see the Corbeau website for current pricing.
> >>> > But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my
Pantera
> >>> > friends.
> >>> > So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and
if we
> >>> > can get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
> >>> > Michael Shortt
> >>> > --
> >>> > Michael L. Shortt
> >>> > Savannah, Georgia
> >>> > [6]www.michaelshortt.com <http://www.michaelshortt.com>
> >>> > [7]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>> > [8]912-232-9390
> >>> > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications
Privacy Act,
> >>> > 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> >>> > privileged. A If you are not the intended recipient, you are
hereby
> >>> > notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or
copying of
> >>> > this communication is strictly prohibited. A Please reply to
the sender
> >>> > that you have received this message in error, then delete it. A
Thank
> >>> > you
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Michael L. Shortt
> >>> > Savannah, Georgia
> >>> > [9]www.michaelshortt.com <http://www.michaelshortt.com>
> >>> > [10]michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>> > 912-232-9390 <tel:912-232-9390>
> >>> > A
> >>> > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications
Privacy
> >>> > Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be
legally
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this
> >>> > communication is strictly prohibited.A Please reply to the
sender that
> >>> > you
> >>> > have received this message in error, then delete it.A Thank you
> >>> >
> >>> >References
> >>> >
> >>> > 1. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> >>> > 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> >>> > 3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>> > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >>> > 5. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> >>> > 6. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>> > 7. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>> > 8. tel:912-232-9390 <tel:912-232-9390>
> >>> > 9. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> >>> > 10. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> >>> >_______________________________________________
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>
> -------------- next part --------------
> I have the C22059 bracket. It is very low, but like I said, I can't
> offer feedback about how well it works.
>
> From: Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 7:29 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <[2]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: "[3]michael at michaelshortt.com" <[4]michael at michaelshortt.com>,
> "Mirril M. McMullen" <[5]mirrilm at earthlink.net>,
"[6]detomaso at poca.com"
> <[7]detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
>
> Corbeau has a flat bracket listed under their" Universal fit "
> brackets. Here is a link:[8]Corbeau Universal mount Flat bracket
> Hope this helps.
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Boyd Casey <[9]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> It won't help you Will cause you have already purchased your seats ,
> but on the seats I am considering (The CR1 formerly the carrera) is
> available with an additional 1" shaved off the bottom for an
> additional $49.00.
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Will Kooiman
> <[10]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You want brackets for a 911. It is very flat, and the 911 has a
> flat
> floor pan, which matches the Pantera.
> But it might not be low enough. That's what I'm dealing with right
> now.
> My seat isn't quite low enough, but I haven't tried with it actually
> bolted to the bracket. I need to spend some time mocking it up to
> see
> what needs to move.
> But like I said, if you want a bracket - check out the one for a
> 911.
> Otherwise, bolt it to the floor.
> --
> Will
> On 5/5/14 2:51 PM, "[11]michael at michaelshortt.com"
> <[12]michael at michaelshortt.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I have attached the bracket guide.
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Mirril M. McMullen
> > <[1][13]mirrilm at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > Michael,
> > I have bought a few Corbeau sets for my BMWs. The Brackets that
> > Corbeau make are simple, functional and strong, and I think the
> > seats are a good value.
> > I would be interested in buying Corbeau sets for my P Car if
> there
> > was a Corbeau seat bracket (would have to be very low profile)
> for
> > the Pantera.
> > Let us know your thoughts.
> > #6859 WAYBAC
> > /\/\
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [[14]mailto:[2][15]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > [3][16]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:22 PM
> > To: [4][17]detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Corbeau Seats
> > Many years ago I was an active Corbeau dealer via a website only
> > orders.
> > (You can tell by the very dated website and very, very old prices (
> > [5][18]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm ) I have been
> asked to
> > become a dealer again and this requires a substantial buy in to get
> the
> > BEST pricing ($5,000), although I can still offer 10% off retail
> now,
> > see the Corbeau website for current pricing.
> > But if I elect to do the new order I can offer 20% off to my
> Pantera
> > friends.
> > So if you are thinking about new Corbeau seats, let me know and if
> we
> > can get enough orders, I can sell them to you at 20% off.
> > Michael Shortt
> > --
> > Michael L. Shortt
> > Savannah, Georgia
> > [6][19]www.michaelshortt.com
> > [7][20]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > [8]912-232-9390
> > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
> Act,
> > 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> > privileged. A If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby
> > notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying
> of
> > this communication is strictly prohibited. A Please reply to the
> sender
> > that you have received this message in error, then delete it. A
> Thank
> > you
> >
> > --
> > Michael L. Shortt
> > Savannah, Georgia
> > [9][21]www.michaelshortt.com
> > [10][22]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > [23]912-232-9390
> > A
> > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy
> > Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally
> > privileged.A If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby
> > notified
> > that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this
> > communication is strictly prohibited.A Please reply to the sender
> that
> > you
> > have received this message in error, then delete it.A Thank you
> >
> >References
> >
> > 1. mailto:[24]mirrilm at earthlink.net
> > 2. mailto:[25]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> > 3. mailto:[26]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > 4. mailto:[27]detomaso at poca.com
> > 5. [28]http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> > 6. [29]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > 7. mailto:[30]michael at michaelshortt.com
> > 8. tel:[31]912-232-9390
> > 9. [32]http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> > 10. mailto:[33]michael at michaelshortt.com
>
> >_______________________________________________
> >
> >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >
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>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 2. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 4. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 5. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 7. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 8. http://www.racing-seats-usa.com/universal.html
> 9. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 10. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 11. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 12. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 13. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 14. mailto:[2]
> 15. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 16. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 17. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 18. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> 19. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 20. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 21. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 22. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 23. tel:912-232-9390
> 24. mailto:mirrilm at earthlink.net
> 25. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 26. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 27. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 28. http://www.michaelshortt.com/mpsc/index.htm
> 29. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 30. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 31. tel:912-232-9390
> 32. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
> 33. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
> 34. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 35. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 36. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 37. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 19:56:29 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>, Tony DiGiovanna
> <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID:
> <1399344989.87690.YahooMailNeo at web162502.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> The damper is pulled on by a tool that threads into the crankshaft, a
big stud.? I assume a lot of people just use a big bolt, but there are
tools with bearings that ride on damper.?
>
> Ken
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 7:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
>
>
> ? I just did some reading up on harmonic balancers and the post i
read
> ? said the the balancer had to be press fit onto the crank. Can this
be
> ? done with the motor in the car?
> ? Boyd
>
> ? On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> ? wrote:
>
> ? The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge
of
> ? them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and
external
> ? balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and
what
> ? do they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> ? important ?
> ? Boyd
>
> ? On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> ? <[2]tonydigi at optonline.net> wrote:
>
> ? ? I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional
harmonic
> ? ? balancer. A Like the one from Pioneer for $176. A See summit
racing.
>
> ? -----Original Message-----
> ? From: DeTomaso [mailto:[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Boyd
> ? Casey
> ? Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> ? To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> ? Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> ? I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed
a
> ? wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm
sure if
> ? i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is
the
> ? consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera
with
> ? 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend
more
> ? money then is necessary A , but I also don't want junk. Any
pointers or
> ? suggestions?
> ? Thanks,
> ? Boyd
>
> References
>
> ? 1. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> ? 2. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> ? 3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> ? 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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> -------------- next part --------------
> The damper is pulled on by a tool that threads into the crankshaft, a
> big stud. I assume a lot of people just use a big bolt, but there are
> tools with bearings that ride on damper.
> Ken
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 7:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> I just did some reading up on harmonic balancers and the post i read
> said the the balancer had to be press fit onto the crank. Can this be
> done with the motor in the car?
> Boyd
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Boyd Casey <[1][1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge
> of
> them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
> balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what
> do they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> important ?
> Boyd
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> <[2][2]tonydigi at optonline.net> wrote:
> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> balancer. A Like the one from Pioneer for $176. A See summit
> racing.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[3][3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> Boyd
> Casey
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> To: [4][4]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure
> if
> i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera
> with
> 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend
> more
> money then is necessary A , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers
> or
> suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Boyd
> References
> 1. mailto:[5]boyd411 at gmail.com
> 2. mailto:[6]tonydigi at optonline.net
> 3. mailto:[7]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 4. mailto:[8]detomaso at poca.com
> _______________________________________________
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> DeTomaso mailing list
> [9]DeTomaso at poca.com
> [10]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 2. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> 3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 5. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 6. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> 7. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 8. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 9. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 10. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 22:38:09 -0600
> From: David <adin at frontier.net>
> To: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>, TPR
> <teampantera at yahoo.com>, TPR Forum <tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [TPR] A Pantera on the track
> Message-ID: <0EEEF4C7-8D97-419A-875C-487820A99437 at frontier.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Kirby
>
> Thank you.
>
> David
>
> Sent from my handheld gizmo, please forgive my typing!
>
> On May 5, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Always getting hassled by the Dawg about driving the cars?. the poor
guy can?t handle the Detomaso list anymore, so I?ll have to send it to
him directly.
> :-)))
>
> I posted this to the local Houston club list, but thought maybe some
others would like it...
> At least you can view my lousy driving?.
> The car with the video camera is an RX7 with an LS1 in it.
>
> http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U
>
> And, if you don?t like Panteras?.
>
> http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
>
> FWIW,
> Kirby
>
> _______________________________________________
> TPR mailing list
> TPR at teampanteraracing.com
>
http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.com
> -------------- next part --------------
> Kirby
>
> Thank you.
>
> David
> Sent from my handheld gizmo, please forgive my typing!
>
> On May 5, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Kirby Schrader
> <[1]kirby.schrader at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Always getting hassled by the Dawg about driving the cars.... the
poor
> guy can't handle the Detomaso list anymore, so I'll have to send it
to
> him directly.
>
> :-)))
>
> I posted this to the local Houston club list, but thought maybe some
> others would like it...
>
> At least you can view my lousy driving....
>
> The car with the video camera is an RX7 with an LS1 in it.
>
> [2]http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U
>
> And, if you don't like Panteras....
>
> [3]http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
>
> FWIW,
>
> Kirby
>
> _______________________________________________
> TPR mailing list
> [4]TPR at teampanteraracing.com
>
[5]http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.
> com
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:kirby.schrader at gmail.com
> 2. http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U
> 3. http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
> 4. mailto:TPR at teampanteraracing.com
> 5.
http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 22:01:03 -0700
> From: Michael Cox <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for Campi's
> Message-ID:
> <CAMPkPf0fYOo8sLum01nyjVQZ50U-gMq2mnJqnQjSuAg52NuASQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> There is an ad on eBay for a can of Ditzler paint. From the ad:
>
> "Here is a quart of the original Ditzler Castalum Vinyl enamel.
> This is the paint which was listed in the Ford Technical Service
> Bulletin for correct finish on the Campi wheels."
>
> http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
>
> I know nothing about this ad or its accuracy, people occasionally
> ask about repainting wheels.
>
> --mike
> -------------- next part --------------
> There is an ad on eBay for a can of Ditzler paint. From the ad:
> "Here is a quart of the original Ditzler Castalum Vinyl enamel.
> This is the paint which was listed in the Ford Technical Service
> Bulletin for correct finish on the Campi wheels."
> [1]http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> I know nothing about this ad or its accuracy, people occasionally
> ask about repainting wheels.
> A A --mike
>
> References
>
> 1. http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 01:38:34 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> To: coxmichaelt at gmail.com, detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for
> Campi's
> Message-ID: <8D137048E3F3A66-27F4-221D2 at webmail-va014.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> I would want to see a photo of the paint inside and comments as to
whether it is still good.
>
> Paint tends to turn into a glob of hard stuff after X years
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Cox <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Mon, May 5, 2014 10:02 pm
> Subject: [DeTomaso] eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for Campi's
>
>
> There is an ad on eBay for a can of Ditzler paint. From the ad:
> "Here is a quart of the original Ditzler Castalum Vinyl enamel.
> This is the paint which was listed in the Ford Technical Service
> Bulletin for correct finish on the Campi wheels."
> [1]http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> I know nothing about this ad or its accuracy, people occasionally
> ask about repainting wheels.
> A A --mike
>
> References
>
> 1. http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
>
>
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> -------------- next part --------------
> I would want to see a photo of the paint inside and comments as to
> whether it is still good.
>
>
>
> Paint tends to turn into a glob of hard stuff after X years
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Cox <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Mon, May 5, 2014 10:02 pm
> Subject: [DeTomaso] eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for Campi's
> There is an ad on eBay for a can of Ditzler paint. From the ad:
> "Here is a quart of the original Ditzler Castalum Vinyl enamel.
> This is the paint which was listed in the Ford Technical Service
> Bulletin for correct finish on the Campi wheels."
> [1][1]http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> I know nothing about this ad or its accuracy, people occasionally
> ask about repainting wheels.
> A A --mike
>
> References
>
> 1. [2]http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
>
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> References
>
> 1. http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> 2. http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> 3. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 4. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 22:55:12 -0700
> From: Michael Cox <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for
> Campi's
> Message-ID:
> <CAMPkPf3cGT1XfF-qZNh2CpWeKmrPNArUC_RYM5hU1LxLg=K3vA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I agree with that! If you look up the color DX-8555 it matches up to
a
> relatively common silver from the mid to late 60's, sometimes even
called
> Argent Silver.
>
> --mike
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > I would want to see a photo of the paint inside and comments as to
whether
> > it is still good.
> >
> > Paint tends to turn into a glob of hard stuff after X years
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Cox <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> > To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> > Sent: Mon, May 5, 2014 10:02 pm
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for Campi's
> >
> > There is an ad on eBay for a can of Ditzler paint. From the ad:
> > "Here is a quart of the original Ditzler Castalum Vinyl enamel.
> > This is the paint which was listed in the Ford Technical Service
> > Bulletin for correct finish on the Campi wheels."
> > [1]http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> > I know nothing about this ad or its accuracy, people occasionally
> > ask about repainting wheels.
> > A A --mike
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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listDeTomaso at poca.comhttp://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
> I agree with that! If you look up the color DX-8555 it matches up to
a
> relatively common silver from the mid to late 60's, sometimes even
> called Argent Silver.
> A A --mike
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Pantdino <[1]pantdino at aol.com>
wrote:
>
> I would want to see a photo of the paint inside and comments as to
> whether it is still good.
>
> A
>
> Paint tends to turn into a glob of hard stuff after X years
>
> A
>
> A
>
> A
>
> A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Cox <[2]coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> To: detomaso <[3]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Mon, May 5, 2014 10:02 pm
> Subject: [DeTomaso] eBay - Original Argent Silver paint for Campi's
> There is an ad on eBay for a can of Ditzler paint. From the ad:
> "Here is a quart of the original Ditzler Castalum Vinyl enamel.
> This is the paint which was listed in the Ford Technical Service
> Bulletin for correct finish on the Campi wheels."
> [1][4]http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> I know nothing about this ad or its accuracy, people occasionally
> ask about repainting wheels.
> A A --mike
>
> References
>
> 1. [5]http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
>
> _______________________________________________
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> References
>
> 1. mailto:pantdino at aol.com
> 2. mailto:coxmichaelt at gmail.com
> 3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 4. http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> 5. http://tinyurl.com/m483s2v
> 6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 07:41:49 -0400
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>, Tony DiGiovanna
> <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID: <CF8E4176.7879A%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Yes.
>
> Press fit, doesn't mean it has to be done on a press.
>
>
>
> You can use the puller to press the new balancer back on, or you can
try
> using the balancer bolt. You want to avoid applying torque before you
> have several threads engaged - otherwise, you might damage the
threads.
>
> My puller uses the same threads as the balancer bolt, so I normally
thread
> the long stud into the end of the crank, and then I use a nut to
start the
> balancer onto the crank. Once it's on a bit, I remove the stud, and
> replace it with the balancer bolt.
>
> --
> Will
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/5/14 10:36 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I just did some reading up on harmonic balancers and the post i
read
> > said the the balancer had to be press fit onto the crank. Can this
be
> > done with the motor in the car?
> > Boyd
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge
of
> > them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and
external
> > balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and
what
> > do they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> > important ?
> > Boyd
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> > <[2]tonydigi at optonline.net> wrote:
> >
> > I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
> > balancer. A Like the one from Pioneer for $176. A See summit
racing.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Boyd
> > Casey
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> > To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> > I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed
a
> > wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm
sure if
> > i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is
the
> > consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera
with
> > 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend
more
> > money then is necessary A , but I also don't want junk. Any
pointers or
> > suggestions?
> > Thanks,
> > Boyd
> >
> >References
> >
> > 1. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> > 2. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> > 3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 05:02:21 -0700 (PDT)
> From: B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
> To: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>, DeTomaso Mail List
> <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Cc: TPR <teampantera at yahoo.com>, TPR Forum
<tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] [TPR] A Pantera on the track
> Message-ID:
> <1399377741.73991.YahooMailNeo at web163805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Enjoyed, thanks.
>
>
> ?
> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not
be ! )
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> To: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Cc: TPR <teampantera at yahoo.com>; TPR Forum
<tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 9:50 PM
> Subject: [TPR] A Pantera on the track
>
>
>
>
>
> Always getting hassled by the Dawg about driving the cars?. the poor
guy can?t handle the Detomaso list anymore, so I?ll have to send it to
him directly.
> :-)))
>
> I posted this to the local Houston club list, but thought maybe some
others would like it...
> At least you can view my lousy driving?.
> The car with the video camera is an RX7 with an LS1 in it.
>
> http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U?
>
> And, if you don?t like Panteras?.
>
> http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
>
> FWIW,
> Kirby
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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> -------------- next part --------------
> Enjoyed, thanks.
>
> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not
be
> ! )
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
> To: DeTomaso Mail List <DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Cc: TPR <teampantera at yahoo.com>; TPR Forum
<tpr at teampanteraracing.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 9:50 PM
> Subject: [TPR] A Pantera on the track
> Always getting hassled by the Dawg about driving the carsa|. the poor
> guy canat handle the Detomaso list anymore, so Iall have to send it
to
> him directly.
> :-)))
> I posted this to the local Houston club list, but thought maybe some
> others would like it...
> At least you can view my lousy drivinga|.
> The car with the video camera is an RX7 with an LS1 in it.
> [1]http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U
> And, if you donat like Panterasa|.
> [2]http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
> FWIW,
> Kirby
> _______________________________________________
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> [3]TPR at teampanteraracing.com
>
[4]http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.
> com
>
> References
>
> 1. http://youtu.be/1tGgNVUDE1U
> 2. http://youtu.be/tRqX136fl08
> 3. mailto:TPR at teampanteraracing.com
> 4.
http://teampanteraracing.com/mailman/listinfo/tpr_teampanteraracing.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 28
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 13:42:18 +0000 (GMT)
> From: cengles at cox.net
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com, tonydigi at optonline.net
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID: <150e89e.179da.145d1c54952.Webtop.0 at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no
>
> Dear Boyd,
>
>
> About eighteen years ago, I recall that I replaced a bad
> stock balancer with a similar balancer. I was able to accomplish that
> with the engine in place using some anti seize and the balancer bolt
to
> push it on. I have since learned that is not the best technique
> although it is a common one. Also the space constraints of an in situ
> balancer change may limit the options ton only the suboptimal
balancer
> bolt.
>
>
>
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Boyd Casey wrote:
>
> > I just did some reading up on harmonic balancers and the post i
read
> > said
> > the the balancer had to be press fit onto the crank. Can this be
done
> > with
> > the motor in the car?
> > Boyd
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> >> The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my
knowledge
> >> of
> >> them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and
external
> >> balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and
what
> >> do
> >> they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> >> important ?
> >> Boyd
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> >> <tonydigi at optonline.net>wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional
harmonic
> >>> balancer. Like the one from Pioneer for $176. See summit racing.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Boyd
> >>> Casey
> >>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> >>> To: detomaso at poca.com
> >>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> >>>
> >>> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have
noticed a
> >>> wide
> >>> range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure
if i
> >>> tried
> >>> I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
> >>> consensus as
> >>> far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351
> >>> Cleveland
> >>> that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money
then
> >>> is
> >>> necessary , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or
> >>> suggestions?
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Boyd
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 29
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 11:21:51 -0400
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>, tony DiGiovanna
> <tonydigi at optonline.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> Message-ID:
> <CALsQ=ctEB3QfAoftX4Zn71-Y33JmD9ebrp66GjBmen0sq+axKQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Thanks to everyone that supplied information and opinions , your
> contribution to my continuing mechanics education ( on the fly) home
study
> program is greatly appreciated!
>
> Boyd
>
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 9:42 AM, <cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Dear Boyd,
> >
> >
> > About eighteen years ago, I recall that I replaced a bad
> > stock balancer with a similar balancer. I was able to accomplish
that
> > with the engine in place using some anti seize and the balancer
bolt to
> > push it on. I have since learned that is not the best technique
although
> > it is a common one. Also the space constraints of an in situ
balancer
> > change may limit the options ton only the suboptimal balancer bolt.
> >
> >
> >
> > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Boyd Casey wrote:
> >
> > I just did some reading up on harmonic balancers and the post i
read said
> >> the the balancer had to be press fit onto the crank. Can this be
done with
> >> the motor in the car?
> >> Boyd
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>
> >> The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my
knowledge of
> >>> them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and
external
> >>> balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and
what do
> >>> they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
important
> >>> ?
> >>> Boyd
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
<tonydigi at optonline.net
> >>> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional
harmonic
> >>>> balancer. Like the one from Pioneer for $176. See summit racing.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Boyd
> >>>> Casey
> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
> >>>> To: detomaso at poca.com
> >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> >>>>
> >>>> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have
noticed a
> >>>> wide
> >>>> range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure
if i
> >>>> tried
> >>>> I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
consensus
> >>>> as
> >>>> far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351
Cleveland
> >>>> that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money
then is
> >>>> necessary , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or
suggestions?
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Boyd
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> >>
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
> Thanks to everyone that supplied information A and opinions , your
> contribution to my continuing mechanics education ( on the fly) home
> study program is greatly appreciated!A
> Boyd
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 9:42 AM, <[1]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>
> Dear Boyd,
> A A A A A A A About eighteen years ago, I recall that I
> replaced a bad stock balancer with a similar balancer. A I was able
> to accomplish that with the engine in place using some anti seize
> and the balancer bolt to push it on. A I have since learned that is
> not the best technique although it is a common one. A Also the
> space constraints of an in situ balancer change may limit the
> options ton only the suboptimal balancer bolt.
> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards, Chuck
> Engles
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Boyd Casey wrote:
>
> I just did some reading up on harmonic balancers and the post i read
> said
> the the balancer had to be press fit onto the crank. Can this be done
> with
> the motor in the car?
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Boyd Casey <[2]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The Romac is SFI rated. Is it unconventional? I afraid my knowledge
of
> them is very limited. I know there are internal balanced and external
> balanced , SFI-rated and non rated. What are the differences and what
> do
> they mean as far as performance or other factors that would be
> important ?
> Boyd
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Tony DiGiovanna
> <[3]tonydigi at optonline.net>wrote:
>
> I think a good consideration is an SFI-rated conventional harmonic
>
> balancer. A Like the one from Pioneer for $176. A See summit racing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Boyd
> Casey
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 12:59 PM
>
> To: [5]detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer
> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have noticed a
> wide
> range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if i
> tried
> I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
consensus
> as
> far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351
> Cleveland
> that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money then
is
>
> necessary A , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or
> suggestions?
> Thanks,
> Boyd
>
> A A A ------------------------------
>
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> References
>
> 1. mailto:cengles at cox.net
> 2. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> 3. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> 4. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> 5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 30
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 20:18:15 +0200
> From: "Freddy Henningsen" <fredhen at online.no>
> To: <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, <asajay at asajay.com>, <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need Help gerbox
> Message-ID: <9EC57882B1B74DAAA840F8B197AC14CB at EierPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: <asajay at asajay.com>; <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 1:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Need Help gerbox
>
>
> >
> > In a message dated 5/4/14 7 17 50, asajay at asajay.com writes:
> >
> >
> >> Please take a picture of your clutch and send it to the list.
> >>
> >
> >>>>He just bought a complete Pantera-specific Centerforce clutch kit
from
> > Hall Pantera. It's all brand new. Apparently unnecessary, as it
turns
> > out. :<(
>
> that's right:(
>
> >
> > I am wondering if the starter Bendix drive is AFU and the starter
gear is
> > kissing the flywheel ring gear? Or did the tin shield that covers
the
> > bottom of the bellhousing opening (sheld between the engine and
gearbox)
> > get
> > whanged somehow, so that it is rubbing against the flywheel?
>
> it is the sheld that is rubbing on the inside (towards the engine)
against
> the flywheel.
> bent it slightly and the sound was gone. has now made ??a small cover
to
> cover over the part that was cut out.
>
> Freddy
>
>
> >
> > Mike
>
>
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