[DeTomaso] Tires
Pantdino
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Tue May 6 18:35:17 EDT 2014
If the Euro T/As are old enough to fail like that the rubber has probably hardened to the point where putting new tires on the front will make the car oversteer pretty badly.
Whatever type you choose you should probably plan on discovering the car is scary to drive with just new fronts and new rears will follow shortly
Jim
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I would buy the Kumhos and wait on the P-Zeros when I wanted a full
set.
Michael Shortt
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Richard Greenblum
<[1]pantera at austin.rr.com> wrote:
A A Michael,
A A No track time, just driving the car for fun. A I get spirited
with
A A controls, but I will still have my Euro T/As on the rear so I'm
A A limited. A One of my front Euro T/As failed internally. A The
car started
A A shaking and pulling pretty hard. A When I pulled the side it
was pulling
A A to off, you could easily see the circumference of the outer
side of the
A A tire was larger than the inside corner. A It made a distinct
left turn
A A when rolled on an flat and even surface...
A A Richard
A A From: "[1][2]michael at michaelshortt.com"
<[2][3]michael at michaelshortt.com>
A A Date: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 5:05 PM
A A To: Richard Greenblum <[3][4]pantera at austin.rr.com>
A A Cc: deTomaso List <[4][5]detomaso at poca.com>
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires
A A I have used Pirelli, Kumho and Falken, no real complaints with any
of
A A them for basic driving,
A A how will they be used?
A A I have both Pirelli P-Zeros (335/35/17) on one set of wheels on
the car
A A now and use the other set of Kumho's (315/35/17) for road trips
like
A A Tail of the Dragon, I feel they are more sticky on those roads.
A A Michael Shortt
A A On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Richard Greenblum
A A <[5][6]pantera at austin.rr.com> wrote:
A A A A All,
A A A A I need new front tires--225/50-15s to mount on my 8"
Campys.
A A A Here are
A A A A my choices:
A A A A Pirelli P Zero System (the best, most expensive)
A A A A Kumho Ecsta AST (cheap, don't know anything about them)
A A A A Falken Ziex ZE-912 (same as the Kumho)
A A A A Maxxis MA-Z4S (same as the Kumho and Falken)
A A A A Anyone have any experience with the last three? A The
Pirelli is a
A A A sure
A A A A bet, but three times as expensive.
A A A A Richard
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If the Euro T/As are old enough to fail like that the rubber has
probably hardened to the point where putting new tires on the front
will make the car oversteer pretty badly.
Whatever type you choose you should probably plan on discovering the
car is scary to drive with just new fronts and new rears will follow
shortly
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: michael <michael at michaelshortt.com>
To: Richard Greenblum <pantera at austin.rr.com>
Cc: deTomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Tue, May 6, 2014 3:22 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires
I would buy the Kumhos and wait on the P-Zeros when I wanted a full
set.
Michael Shortt
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Richard Greenblum
<[1][1]pantera at austin.rr.com> wrote:
A A Michael,
A A No track time, just driving the car for fun. A I get spirited
with
A A controls, but I will still have my Euro T/As on the rear so I'm
A A limited. A One of my front Euro T/As failed internally. A The
car started
A A shaking and pulling pretty hard. A When I pulled the side it
was pulling
A A to off, you could easily see the circumference of the outer
side of the
A A tire was larger than the inside corner. A It made a distinct
left turn
A A when rolled on an flat and even surface...
A A Richard
A A From: "[1][2][2]michael at michaelshortt.com"
<[2][3][3]michael at michaelshortt.com>
A A Date: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 5:05 PM
A A To: Richard Greenblum <[3][4][4]pantera at austin.rr.com>
A A Cc: deTomaso List <[4][5][5]detomaso at poca.com>
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tires
A A I have used Pirelli, Kumho and Falken, no real complaints with any
of
A A them for basic driving,
A A how will they be used?
A A I have both Pirelli P-Zeros (335/35/17) on one set of wheels on
the car
A A now and use the other set of Kumho's (315/35/17) for road trips
like
A A Tail of the Dragon, I feel they are more sticky on those roads.
A A Michael Shortt
A A On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Richard Greenblum
A A <[5][6][6]pantera at austin.rr.com> wrote:
A A A A All,
A A A A I need new front tires--225/50-15s to mount on my 8"
Campys.
A A A Here are
A A A A my choices:
A A A A Pirelli P Zero System (the best, most expensive)
A A A A Kumho Ecsta AST (cheap, don't know anything about them)
A A A A Falken Ziex ZE-912 (same as the Kumho)
A A A A Maxxis MA-Z4S (same as the Kumho and Falken)
A A A A Anyone have any experience with the last three? A The
Pirelli is a
A A A sure
A A A A bet, but three times as expensive.
A A A A Richard
A A A A Austin, TX
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