[DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer

Mon May 5 16:30:17 EDT 2014

Dear Ken,

                  Ach dul Lieber!  My mistake.  I said Rollmaster and I 
meant Romac.  It is a good balancer.  I know they make one for the 
Cleveland.  The one I had did have four holes and bolted right up with 
all the other parts.   I don't recall any diameter issues, although the 
aftermarket balancers can be a larger than stock and require a different 
timing marker and/or a bit of gentle grinding on the lower aspect of the 
water pump in the event of "interference" between the parts.

                                 Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Ken Green wrote:

I thought people liked the Romac damper:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Cleveland-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659 
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Are there diameter issues, 3 bolt vs 4 bolt pattern, etc? 
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Ken 
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From: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>
To: boyd411 at gmail.com
Cc: detomaso at poca.com
Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer

Dear Boyd,

                There are lots of options.  I would not recommend the
Rattler type balancer, although it might do well in a stock or mildly
modified application.  You could simply get a Ford replacement or
equivalent aftermarket stock type replacement if economy is paramount.

                  The best ones that I am familiar with are ATI, BHJ and
Rollmaster (IIRC).   I recently bought a BHJ harmonic balancer and it
was a little less than $300.  ATI and Rollmaster are in the same range I
believe.

                 I suppose that in terms of bang for the buck a stock
type replacement would be adequate for most uses.  If your mildly
modified engine gets flogged, then it I would recommend one of the above
balancers.  They're relatively expensive for a boring engine part, but a
good balancer.......is still boring, but better in the long run for hipo
engines.

                        FWIW,  Chuck Engles

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Boyd Casey wrote:

> I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have  noticed a 
> wide range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure 
> if i tried I could find some that were even more expensive. What is 
> the consensus as far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera 
> with 351 Cleveland that has been mildly modified? I don't want to 
> spend more money then is necessary  , but I also don't want junk. Any 
> pointers or suggestions? Thanks, Boyd
>
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   Dear Ken,

                    Ach dul Lieber!  My mistake.  I said Rollmaster and I
   meant Romac.  It is a good balancer.  I know they make one for the
   Cleveland.  The one I had did have four holes and bolted right up with
   all the other parts.   I don't recall any diameter issues, although the
   aftermarket balancers can be a larger than stock and require a
   different timing marker and/or a bit of gentle grinding on the lower
   aspect of the water pump in the event of "interference" between the
   parts.

                                   Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles

   On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Ken Green wrote:

   I thought people liked the Romac damper:

   [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Balancer-Romac-Damper-Ford-Clevelan
   d-C-W-302-351-Steel-SFI-Approved-/251520712244?_trksid=p2054897.l5659

   Are there diameter issues, 3 bolt vs 4 bolt pattern, etc?

   Ken

   From: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>

   To: boyd411 at gmail.com

   Cc: detomaso at poca.com

   Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 11:00 AM

   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Harmonic balancer

   Dear Boyd,

                  There are lots of options.  I would not recommend the

   Rattler type balancer, although it might do well in a stock or mildly

   modified application.  You could simply get a Ford replacement or

   equivalent aftermarket stock type replacement if economy is paramount.

                    The best ones that I am familiar with are ATI, BHJ and

   Rollmaster (IIRC).   I recently bought a BHJ harmonic balancer and it

   was a little less than $300.  ATI and Rollmaster are in the same range
   I

   believe.

                   I suppose that in terms of bang for the buck a stock

   type replacement would be adequate for most uses.  If your mildly

   modified engine gets flogged, then it I would recommend one of the
   above

   balancers.  They're relatively expensive for a boring engine part, but
   a

   good balancer.......is still boring, but better in the long run for
   hipo

   engines.

                          FWIW,  Chuck Engles

   On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Boyd Casey wrote:

   > I just found out that my Harmonic balancer is shot. I have  noticed a

   > wide

   > range of prices from just over $100 to close to $500 ( I'm sure if i

   > tried

   > I could find some that were even more expensive. What is the
   consensus

   > as

   > far as the harmonic balancer best suited to a Pantera with 351

   > Cleveland

   > that has been mildly modified? I don't want to spend more money then

   > is

   > necessary  , but I also don't want junk. Any pointers or suggestions?

   > Thanks,

   > Boyd

   >

   >

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