[DeTomaso] replacement seats

Will Kooiman will.kooiman at gmail.com
Mon May 5 15:54:47 EDT 2014


The deletion of the logo was not extra as I recall.

The holes were extra, but not much.

I can't remember if they are partial leather or all vinyl.  I'm not at home
right now, so I can't look.  I remember that full leather was much more
expensive.  They might even send them out to be recovered in leather.

The biggest recommendation I can make to anyone is to try lots of seats.
Sit in as many as possible.  We are all built differently, and we have
different preferences.  I love the LG1 seats.  There were many other seats
that I didn't like.
--
Will

From:  Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
Date:  Monday, May 5, 2014 12:52 PM
To:  Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Cc:  Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
<detomaso at poca.com>
Subject:  Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats

Will,
They look very nice. Very similar to the seats I have now (except mine are
nock offs sold as "Real Leather" that were in fact vinyl ! What are your
seats upholstered in? Was the deletion of the Corbeau logo an extra cost
option? Did you get the submarine hole added? I have noticed that Corbeau
also offer an option the have the seat cushion height shaved an inch for
$45. I think that would help with the height issue. I am looking at the
Corbeau CR1 in black Leather )another nice thing about the corbeau leather
option is that the entire seat (front and back) is upholstered in leather .
Most people don't realize that even when you get leather upholstery from the
factory in most makes only the seat faces are actually leather with the
remainder of the seat in Vinyl.

        On a side note it always struck me as amusing that for years
Mercedes Benz has been selling there expensive cars with upholstery called
"MB Tex"  which is a trade marked name for the Vinyl that Mercedes uses. I
wonder how many of the deep pocketed MB buyers would have made the same
choices if the knew that their new Mercedes had Vinyl interior  ( Mercedes
does offer leather  as an option on the less expensive models but it is
standard on their flagship s-class and even has two levels of napa leather
upgrades) I must admit that MB MB Tex is the best vinyl interior I have ever
experienced .

Boyd


On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Boyd ­ the stock seats were comfortable, but they are too flat.  I always had
> a tough time in corners with my butt sliding all over the place.
> 
> My Corbeau LG1s are a major upgrade to the stock seats.  They do not look like
> 90% of the online photos of Corbeau seats.  They look like they belong in the
> car.  You can order Corbeau seats with a lot of options ­ materials, with or
> without harness holes, colors, etc.  These options either make the seat look
> like they were done by the factory or like they were done by a clown.
> 
> There's a pic on this forum:
> http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71547
> 
> Except that my seats do not have the Corbeau logo, and they are all black.
> 
> The LG1 seats feel very similar to my wife's 2013 Boxster.  I don't know how
> comfortable they will be on a long trip, but comfortable or not, the side
> support will be worth it.
> 
> 
> From:  Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date:  Saturday, May 3, 2014 12:25 AM
> To:  Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>
> Cc:  Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>
> 
> Subject:  Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> 
> Will, 
> Did you think the stock Pantera seats were more comfortable? I find the add
> support of the bolsters to make a huge difference in hard cornering. There is
> a reason all modern performance cars use seats of similar design.I think your
> seats look great in your car.  Thanks for  sharing your experience with me.
> Boyd
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those different
>> fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have Recaro style
>> seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or FIA sanctioned. I have six
>> point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat isn't effective at maintaining the
>> six point harness in the proper position . In the event of an accident it is
>> extremely important (IMHO) to have a properly positioned submarine belt and
>> in order for it to be placed in the correct position you must have have an
>> anchor point that goes through the seat ( not wrapped forward around the
>> front of the seat. Improper positioning of multi point harnesses (5 or 6) can
>> result in serious injury or death. So despite your preference for the
>> aesthetic appeal of the stock seat if you plan on doing more with your
>> Pantera then car shows then it is essential that you optimize your car to
>> provide the maximum in safety . Aside from the safety issues I happen to like
>> (in fact prefer the look of a recaro style seat).  If I wanted a Pantera
>> solely for a car collection I would have kept it stock. Now I want seats that
>> not only provide a more stable driving position (like a Recaro style seat)
>> but one that is also FIA approved ( like an authentic Recaro, Corbeau or
>> Sparco) and is built to a higher quality standard.
>> Boyd
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
>>> You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would take
>>> place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest seat in a
>>> pantera  just looks wrong. Just an opinion
>>>  
>>>> > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
>>>> > From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
>>>> > To: boyd411 at gmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
>>> 
>>>> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>>>> > 
>>>> > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats.  They fit my body, and they
>>>> > look proper in the Pantera.
>>>> > 
>>>> > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
>>>> > 
>>>> > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or through a
>>>> > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out, and order
>>>> > local.
>>>> > 
>>>> > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
>>>> > 
>>>> > I am bolting mine to the floor.  They are almost low enough rails and a
>>>> > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
>>>> > 
>>>> > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
>>>> > 
>>>> > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>>> > >   I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was wondering
if
>>>>> > >   anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau seats that
>>>>> > >   they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and a fixed
>>>>> > >   back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like the
>>>>> Recaro
>>>>> > >   pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may add some
>>>>> much
>>>>> > >   needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style" seats
>>>>> > >   (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then the
>>>>> "Fixed
>>>>> > >   back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a helmet.I
>>>>> know
>>>>> > >   Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many high end
>>>>> cars
>>>>> > >   , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in their
>>>>> > >   Panteras or other cars?
>>>>> > >   Thanks,
>>>>> > >   Boyd
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>>>>> > >
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>>>> > 
>>>> > 
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>> 
> 



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   The deletion of the logo was not extra as I recall.
   The holes were extra, but not much.
   I can't remember if they are partial leather or all vinyl.  I'm not at
   home right now, so I can't look.  I remember that full leather was much
   more expensive.  They might even send them out to be recovered in
   leather.
   The biggest recommendation I can make to anyone is to try lots of
   seats.  Sit in as many as possible.  We are all built differently, and
   we have different preferences.  I love the LG1 seats.  There were many
   other seats that I didn't like.
   --
   Will

   From: Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
   Date: Monday, May 5, 2014 12:52 PM
   To: Will Kooiman <[2]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   Cc: Mark Tumbarello <[3]ollerabmut at msn.com>, "[4]detomaso at poca.com"
   <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats

   Will,
   They look very nice. Very similar to the seats I have now (except mine
   are nock offs sold as "Real Leather" that were in fact vinyl ! What are
   your seats upholstered in? Was the deletion of the Corbeau logo an
   extra cost option? Did you get the submarine hole added? I have noticed
   that Corbeau also offer an option the have the seat cushion height
   shaved an inch for $45. I think that would help with the height issue.
   I am looking at the Corbeau CR1 in black Leather )another nice thing
   about the corbeau leather option is that the entire seat (front and
   back) is upholstered in leather . Most people don't realize that even
   when you get leather upholstery from the factory in most makes only the
   seat faces are actually leather with the remainder of the seat in
   Vinyl.
           On a side note it always struck me as amusing that for years
   Mercedes Benz has been selling there expensive cars with upholstery
   called "MB Tex"  which is a trade marked name for the Vinyl that
   Mercedes uses. I wonder how many of the deep pocketed MB buyers would
   have made the same choices if the knew that their new Mercedes had
   Vinyl interior  ( Mercedes does offer leather  as an option on the less
   expensive models but it is standard on their flagship s-class and even
   has two levels of napa leather upgrades) I must admit that MB MB Tex is
   the best vinyl interior I have ever experienced .
   Boyd

   On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Will Kooiman
   <[6]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:

   Boyd - the stock seats were comfortable, but they are too flat.  I
   always had a tough time in corners with my butt sliding all over the
   place.
   My Corbeau LG1s are a major upgrade to the stock seats.  They do not
   look like 90% of the online photos of Corbeau seats.  They look like
   they belong in the car.  You can order Corbeau seats with a lot of
   options - materials, with or without harness holes, colors, etc.  These
   options either make the seat look like they were done by the factory or
   like they were done by a clown.
   There's a pic on this forum:
   [7]http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71547
   Except that my seats do not have the Corbeau logo, and they are all
   black.
   The LG1 seats feel very similar to my wife's 2013 Boxster.  I don't
   know how comfortable they will be on a long trip, but comfortable or
   not, the side support will be worth it.
   From: Boyd Casey <[8]boyd411 at gmail.com>
   Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014 12:25 AM
   To: Mark Tumbarello <[9]ollerabmut at msn.com>
   Cc: Will Kooiman <[10]will.kooiman at gmail.com>, "[11]detomaso at poca.com"
   <[12]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
   Will,
   Did you think the stock Pantera seats were more comfortable? I find the
   add support of the bolsters to make a huge difference in hard
   cornering. There is a reason all modern performance cars use seats of
   similar design.I think your seats look great in your car.  Thanks for
   sharing your experience with me.
   Boyd
   On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Boyd Casey <[13]boyd411 at gmail.com>
   wrote:

   Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those different
   fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have Recaro
   style seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or FIA sanctioned.
   I have six point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat isn't effective at
   maintaining the six point harness in the proper position . In the event
   of an accident it is extremely important (IMHO) to have a properly
   positioned submarine belt and in order for it to be placed in the
   correct position you must have have an anchor point that goes through
   the seat ( not wrapped forward around the front of the seat. Improper
   positioning of multi point harnesses (5 or 6) can result in serious
   injury or death. So despite your preference for the aesthetic appeal of
   the stock seat if you plan on doing more with your Pantera then car
   shows then it is essential that you optimize your car to provide the
   maximum in safety . Aside from the safety issues I happen to like (in
   fact prefer the look of a recaro style seat).  If I wanted a Pantera
   solely for a car collection I would have kept it stock. Now I want
   seats that not only provide a more stable driving position (like a
   Recaro style seat) but one that is also FIA approved ( like an
   authentic Recaro, Corbeau or Sparco) and is built to a higher quality
   standard.
   Boyd

   On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello
   <[14]ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:

   You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would take
   place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest seat in a
   pantera  just looks wrong. Just an opinion

   > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
   > From: [15]will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > To: [16]boyd411 at gmail.com; [17]detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
   >
   > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body, and they
   > look proper in the Pantera.
   >
   > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
   >
   > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or
   through a
   > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out, and
   order
   > local.
   >
   > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
   >
   > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough rails and
   a
   > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
   >
   > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
   >
   > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[18]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
   >
   > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was
   wondering if
   > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau seats that
   > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and a fixed
   > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like the
   Recaro
   > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may add some
   much
   > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style" seats
   > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then the
   "Fixed
   > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a helmet.I
   know
   > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many high end
   cars
   > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in their
   > > Panteras or other cars?
   > > Thanks,
   > > Boyd
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   > >
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   3. mailto:ollerabmut at msn.com
   4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   6. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
   7. http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71547
   8. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
   9. mailto:ollerabmut at msn.com
  10. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
  11. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
  12. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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  14. mailto:ollerabmut at msn.com
  15. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
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