[DeTomaso] Fw: Re: Need Help gerbox

Freddy Henningsen fredhen at online.no
Sun May 4 12:21:30 EDT 2014


yeah thought about it. has removed the bell housing cover. same sound: (but 
it is such, that it must be some washers between the bellhousing and the 
starter? today it is no and I do not remember if it was going to be there 
orgnalt?

Freddy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay at asajay.com>
To: <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Re: Need Help gerbox


> The other thing to consider is the STARTER, and any shield that is in
> place at the bellhousing.  If the shield is bent or the starter is
> hanging up, it will make the noise too.
>
> Check the starter and the bellhousing shield.
>
> Asa  Jay
>
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> On 5/4/2014 8:52 AM, Asa Jay Laughton wrote:
>> >From the photo, it is not the bob-weight problem that some people talk
>> about.  This appears to be a centerforce style clutch.  If you hear the
>> scratching at idle with the clutch pedal both out, and in, then
>> presumably it's -not- something inside the gearbox.  When you press the
>> clutch pedal and shift into a gear at a stop, it stops all the gears in
>> the transmission from moving.  So if the sound is still there, then it's
>> most likely something in the bellhousing, clutch area.
>>
>> If the throw-out bearing is riding on the clutch fingers it may make a
>> noise.  If it fails to turn when the pedal is pushed in, it will make a
>> much larger noise.
>>
>> The only other movable item is the pilot bearing inside the end of the
>> crankshaft.  However, when the clutch pedal is released, the input shaft
>> of the transmission is locked to the flywheel and crankshaft so you
>> shouldn't hear a noise, even if the bearing were bad.
>>
>> My -guess- would be the throwout bearing is the problem as it's the only
>> possible item that can turn both with the clutch pedal out and in.
>>
>> One other possibility though I'm not sure how it would make sound with
>> the pedal out.  If the clutch disk itself has been mounted backwards, it
>> will cause a big problem.  The clutch disk can only be mounted one way.
>> Some folks manage to get them on backwards but usually they can't get
>> the transmission to stop because the disk will be jammed and won't 
>> release.
>>
>> With the engine running, at idle, transmission out of gear and the
>> wheels chocked, disconnect the slave cylinder from the clutch arm.  Move
>> the clutch arm so the throwout bearing should be totally clear of the
>> fingers on the clutch and see if the noise goes away.
>>
>> Asa  Jay
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> & Shelley Marie
>> Spokane, WA
>> ******************************
>> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
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>>
>> On 5/4/2014 8:05 AM, Freddy Henningsen wrote:
>>> Thanks Asa  Jay:)
>>>  is exactly the same set as the Old clutch. it worked fine before I
>>> took out the gearbox. also tried with several clutch bering. same
>>> problem all the time.
>>>
>>> Freddy
>>>
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