[DeTomaso] replacement seats
Boyd Casey
boyd411 at gmail.com
Sat May 3 00:23:56 EDT 2014
Mark,
If you are using a 5 point or 6 point harness in your pantera with stock
seats the only reason you have not had a problem is because you luckily
have not had an accident. Check out this link that explains the importance
of using proper geometry in the installation and positioning of harnesses
and submarine belts.
Harness geometry
safety<http://www.schroth.com/installation-instructions/en/03_anchorage_locations_and_geometries.htm>
And if you ever enter any open road events on a serious level I don't
believe you will pass tech without a hans device and someone correct me if
I'm wrong but I don't think you can use a Hans device with a stock pantera
seat.
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:50 PM, Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
> I've done many track days and it works just fine. I've done many upgrade
> to make it safe. Big brakes, Koni shocks , road racings tires and a
> harness make it a blast to drive, but I know I'm driving a 40 year
> old sports car.
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 23:25:46 -0400
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> From: boyd411 at gmail.com
> To: ollerabmut at msn.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
>
> No with good seats and multi point harnesses, Brembo brakes, koni shocks,
> Modified a-arms, cv joints and numerous other upgrades designed to make a
> 40 year old + car safer and handle better with out altering the essence of
> what makes it a Pantera I don't need air bags. If you prefer your 1970's
> seats and you plan on doing any track or performance driving just make
> sure your life insurance is paid up to date other wise bring it to your car
> shows on your trailer.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com>wrote:
>
> you going to put in air bags as well
>
> Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 23:07:46 -0400
> From: boyd411 at gmail.com
> To: ollerabmut at msn.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those different
>
> fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have
> Recarostyle seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or
>
> FIA sanctioned. I have six point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat isn't
>
> effective at maintaining the six point harness in the proper position . In
> the event of an accident it is extremely important (IMHO) to have a
> properly positioned submarine belt and in order for it to be placed in the
>
> correct position you must have have an anchor point that goes through the
> seat ( not wrapped forward around the front of the seat. Improper
> positioning of multi point harnesses (5 or 6) can result in serious injury
>
> or death. So despite your preference for the aesthetic appeal of the stock
> seat if you plan on doing more with your Pantera then car shows then it is
> essential that you optimize your car to provide the maximum in safety .
>
> Aside from the safety issues I happen to like (in fact prefer the look of a
> recaro style seat). If I wanted a Pantera solely for a car collection I
> would have kept it stock. Now I want seats that not only provide a more
>
> stable driving position (like a Recaro style seat) but one that is
> also FIAapproved ( like an authentic
>
> Recaro, Corbeau or Sparco) and is built to a higher quality standard.
> Boyd
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would take
>
> > place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest seat in a
> > pantera just looks wrong. Just an opinion
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
> > > From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
>
> > > To: boyd411 at gmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> > >
> > > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body, and they
> > > look proper in the Pantera.
> > >
> > > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
>
> > >
> > > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or through a
> > > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out, and order
> > > local.
> > >
> > > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
>
> > >
> > > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough rails and a
> > > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
> > >
> > > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
>
> > >
> > > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was wondering if
>
> > > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau seats that
> > > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and a fixed
> > > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like the Recaro
>
> > > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may add some much
> > > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style" seats
> > > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then the "Fixed
>
> > > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a helmet.I know
> > > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many high end cars
> > > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in their
>
> > > > Panteras or other cars?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Boyd
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Mark,
If you are using a 5 point or 6 point harness in your pantera with
stock seats the only reason you have not had a problem is because you
luckily have not had an accident. Check out this link that explains the
importance of using proper geometry in A the installation and
positioning of harnesses and submarine belts. A
[1]Harness geometry safety
And if you ever enter any open road events on a serious level I don't
believe you will pass tech without a hans device and someone correct me
if I'm wrong but I don't think you can A use a Hans device with a stock
pantera seat.
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:50 PM, Mark Tumbarello
<[2]ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
I've done many track days and it works just fine. I've done many
upgrade to make it safe. Big brakes, Koni shocksA , road racings tires
andA a harnessA make it a blast to drive, but IA know I'm driving a 40
year oldA sports car.
__________________________________________________________________
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 23:25:46 -0400
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
From: [3]boyd411 at gmail.com
To: [4]ollerabmut at msn.com
CC: [5]detomaso at poca.com
No with good seats and multi point harnesses, Brembo brakes, koni
shocks, Modified a-arms, cv joints and numerous other upgrades designed
to make a 40 year old + car safer and handle better with out altering
the essence of what makes it a Pantera I don't need air bags. If you
prefer your 1970's seats and you plan on doing any track A or
performance driving just make sure your life insurance is paid up to
date other wise bring it to your car shows on your trailer.
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Mark Tumbarello
<[6]ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
you going to put in air bags as well
A
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 23:07:46 -0400
From: [7]boyd411 at gmail.com
To: [8]ollerabmut at msn.com
CC: [9]detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those different
fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have
Recarostyle seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or
FIA sanctioned. I have six point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat
isn't
effective at maintaining the six point harness in the proper position .
In
the event of an accident it is extremely important (IMHO) to have a
properly positioned submarine belt and in order for it to be placed in
the
correct position you must have have an anchor point that goes through
the
seat ( not wrapped forward around the front of the seat. Improper
positioning of multi point harnesses (5 or 6) can result in serious
injury
or death. So despite your preference for the aesthetic appeal of the
stock
seat if you plan on doing more with your Pantera then car shows then it
is
essential that you optimize your car to provide the maximum in safety .
Aside from the safety issues I happen to like (in fact prefer the look
of a
recaro style seat). If I wanted a Pantera solely for a car collection I
would have kept it stock. Now I want seats that not only provide a more
stable driving position (like a Recaro style seat) but one that is
also FIAapproved ( like an authentic
Recaro, Corbeau or Sparco) and is built to a higher quality standard.
Boyd
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello
<[10]ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
> You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would
take
> place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest seat in
a
> pantera just looks wrong. Just an opinion
>
> > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
> > From: [11]will.kooiman at gmail.com
> > To: [12]boyd411 at gmail.com; [13]detomaso at poca.com
>
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> >
> > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body, and
they
> > look proper in the Pantera.
> >
> > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
> >
> > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or
through a
> > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out, and
order
> > local.
> >
> > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
> >
> > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough rails
and a
> > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
> >
> > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
> >
> > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[14]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was
wondering if
> > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau seats
that
> > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and a
fixed
> > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like the
Recaro
> > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may add some
much
> > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style" seats
> > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then the
"Fixed
> > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a helmet.I
know
> > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many high
end cars
> > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in their
> > > Panteras or other cars?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Boyd
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >
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5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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