[DeTomaso] replacement seats

Mark Tumbarello ollerabmut at msn.com
Fri May 2 23:58:27 EDT 2014 

I would do what ever the sanctioned body required me to do to track the thing if I wanted to track it, For safety. Modern seats in my XKE, probably not.
 
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 23:41:17 -0400
From: boyd411 at gmail.com
To: ollerabmut at msn.com
CC: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats

No I wouldn't do the same to a vintage Ferrari, Lamborgini, or maserati.A
Pantera isn't  in the same league as a vintage Ferrari , Lambo or Maserati
  and will never be in the same league. (excluding the crappy
maseratiswhich I wouldn't want to own modified or not)  My 73
Pantera isn't a 7 figure car. many people  modify their panteras  without
having a detrimental effect on their value.  I bought my Pantera to drive.
I value it but I value my life more. I have a simple philosophy don't risk
what I can't afford to lose. So I work to make my Pantera as safe as is
practical for a 40 year+ old car and I try not to push it beyond it's
limits or mine.
Let me ask you a question. If you had a vintage jaguar and were going to
drive it in a track event would you install seat belts? Would you wear a
modern helmet or an old fashioned leather one , or perhaps none at all?
Just how far do you feel keeping it original should go when your life is
involved?
 
 
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
 
> I don't really care how you prep your car. It's your car. But, would you
> do the same to a vintage Ferrari, Masarati, or Lamborgini. Just saying.
> Gotta stir the pot
>
> From: ollerabmut at msn.com
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 20:14:56 -0700
>
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> you going to put in air bags as well
>
> Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 23:07:46 -0400
> From: boyd411 at gmail.com
> To: ollerabmut at msn.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those different
> fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have
> Recarostyle seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or
> FIA sanctioned. I have six point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat isn't
> effective at maintaining the six point harness in the proper position . In
> the event of an accident it is extremely important (IMHO) to have a
> properly positioned submarine belt and in order for it to be placed in the
> correct position you must have have an anchor point that goes through the
> seat ( not wrapped forward around the front of the seat. Improper
> positioning of multi point harnesses (5 or 6) can result in serious injury
> or death. So despite your preference for the aesthetic appeal of the stock
> seat if you plan on doing more with your Pantera then car shows then it is
> essential that you optimize your car to provide the maximum in safety .
> Aside from the safety issues I happen to like (in fact prefer the look of a
> recaro style seat).  If I wanted a Pantera solely for a car collection I
> would have kept it stock. Now I want seats that not only provide a more
> stable driving position (like a Recaro style seat) but one that is
> also FIAapproved ( like an authentic
> Recaro, Corbeau or Sparco) and is built to a higher quality standard.
> Boyd
>
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would take
> > place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest seat in a
> > pantera  just looks wrong. Just an opinion
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
> > > From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> > > To: boyd411 at gmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> > >
> > > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body, and they
> > > look proper in the Pantera.
> > >
> > > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
> > >
> > > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or through a
> > > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out, and order
> > > local.
> > >
> > > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
> > >
> > > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough rails and a
> > > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
> > >
> > > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
> > >
> > > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was wondering if
> > > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau seats that
> > > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and a fixed
> > > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like the Recaro
> > > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may add some much
> > > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style" seats
> > > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then the "Fixed
> > > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a helmet.I know
> > > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many high end cars
> > > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in their
> > > > Panteras or other cars?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Boyd
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   I would do what ever the sanctioned body required me to do to track the
   thing if I wanted to track it, For safety. Modern seats in my XKE,
   probably not.

   Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 23:41:17 -0400
   From: boyd411 at gmail.com
   To: ollerabmut at msn.com
   CC: detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
No I wouldn't do the same to a vintage Ferrari, Lamborgini, or maserati.A
Pantera isn't  in the same league as a vintage Ferrari , Lambo or Maserati
  and will never be in the same league. (excluding the crappy
maseratiswhich I wouldn't want to own modified or not)  My 73
Pantera isn't a 7 figure car. many people  modify their panteras  without
having a detrimental effect on their value.  I bought my Pantera to drive.
I value it but I value my life more. I have a simple philosophy don't risk
what I can't afford to lose. So I work to make my Pantera as safe as is
practical for a 40 year+ old car and I try not to push it beyond it's
limits or mine.
Let me ask you a question. If you had a vintage jaguar and were going to
drive it in a track event would you install seat belts? Would you wear a
modern helmet or an old fashioned leather one , or perhaps none at all?
Just how far do you feel keeping it original should go when your life is
involved?


On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:

> I don't really care how you prep your car. It's your car. But, would you
> do the same to a vintage Ferrari, Masarati, or Lamborgini. Just saying.
> Gotta stir the pot
>
> From: ollerabmut at msn.com
> To: boyd411 at gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 20:14:56 -0700
>
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> you going to put in air bags as well
>
> Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 23:07:46 -0400
> From: boyd411 at gmail.com
> To: ollerabmut at msn.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
>
> Well mark I guess that why baskin Robbinns makes all those different
> fllavors. Different people like different things. I already have
> Recarostyle seats in my car ( they are just not brand name or
> FIA sanctioned. I have six point harnesses and a stock Pantera seat isn't
> effective at maintaining the six point harness in the proper position . In
> the event of an accident it is extremely important (IMHO) to have a
> properly positioned submarine belt and in order for it to be placed in the
> correct position you must have have an anchor point that goes through the
> seat ( not wrapped forward around the front of the seat. Improper
> positioning of multi point harnesses (5 or 6) can result in serious injury
> or death. So despite your preference for the aesthetic appeal of the stock
> seat if you plan on doing more with your Pantera then car shows then it is
> essential that you optimize your car to provide the maximum in safety .
> Aside from the safety issues I happen to like (in fact prefer the look of a
> recaro style seat).  If I wanted a Pantera solely for a car collection I
> would have kept it stock. Now I want seats that not only provide a more
> stable driving position (like a Recaro style seat) but one that is
> also FIAapproved ( like an authentic
> Recaro, Corbeau or Sparco) and is built to a higher quality standard.
> Boyd
>
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Mark Tumbarello <ollerabmut at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > You might as well put those seats in a model T, same effect would take
> > place, a comfortable seat in the wrong car. a fixed head rest seat in a
> > pantera  just looks wrong. Just an opinion
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:46:41 -0400
> > > From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> > > To: boyd411 at gmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] replacement seats
> > >
> > > I am very happy with my Corbeau LG1 seats. They fit my body, and they
> > > look proper in the Pantera.
> > >
> > > They recline, but you don't have to use the recline feature.
> > >
> > > The price is the same whether you buy them through the mail or through a
> > > reseller, so find a local shop that stocks them, try them out, and order
> > > local.
> > >
> > > They come in full leather, partial, or vinyl.
> > >
> > > I am bolting mine to the floor. They are almost low enough rails and a
> > > Porsche mounting kit, but I want another inch lower.
> > >
> > > If you were local, I would let you try mine for a week or two.
> > >
> > > On 5/2/14 8:33 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am looking at replacement seats for my Pantera and I was wondering if
> > > > anyone has had experience with Recaro, Sparco or Corbeau seats that
> > > > they could share. I am interested in leather upholstery and a fixed
> > > > back seat (non reclining) it seems that some of these (like the Recaro
> > > > pole position) are low enough to the floor that they may add some much
> > > > needed head room. I currently have some recaro "Style" seats
> > > > (reclining) that have much more seat cushion thickness then the "Fixed
> > > > back" style. I can barley fit in the car while wearing a helmet.I know
> > > > Recaro seats have a good reputation and are used inA many high end cars
> > > > , can anyone share their experiences using these seats in their
> > > > Panteras or other cars?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Boyd
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