[DeTomaso] Waterless Engine Coolant

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 27 16:52:12 EDT 2014


It's all black magic.  Actually, there are good and bad things.  It is flammable, but I'm not sure how volatile.  I suspect not nearly as bad as gas.

They worked with a guy racing a Pantera so have experience.  

It has a little lower heat capacity than a 50/50 mix, but not a lot, probably results in a little higher steady state temperature.  I think there are three versions, so you need to know which your are talking about.

You can run it at near zero pressure, which is nice with all the connections in the water lines.  They claim the higher boiling temp prevents or reduces boiling in the heads adjacent to the combustion chambers, which helps reduce hot spots in the chambers and resulting detonation.  But even if you can live with higher coolant temp, it could be an issue with an oil to water heat exchanger if you are thinking about that as an option.

It seems like most gearheads extrapolate from limited experience and will swear that a product is terrible or wonderful.  There are so many variable that it's hard to know what really made an engine overheat or run cooler, unless there is a clear issue, like fans running backwards.


web site:  http://www.evanscooling.com/products/coolants/

Ken
 

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Flammable worries a lot of people. I think I read something about  banned from SCCA but not sure.

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Is anybody using Evans Waterless Coolant or any other brand?
Aside from the cost ( in a Pantera, about $150.00 ), any noticed advantages?
How much higher does it raise the operating temp?
Can it be used on track ( rules generally prohibit antifreeze)?


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   It's all black magic.  Actually, there are good and bad things.  It is
   flammable, but I'm not sure how volatile.  I suspect not nearly as bad
   as gas.
   They worked with a guy racing a Pantera so have experience.
   It has a little lower heat capacity than a 50/50 mix, but not a lot,
   probably results in a little higher steady state temperature.  I think
   there are three versions, so you need to know which your are talking
   about.
   You can run it at near zero pressure, which is nice with all the
   connections in the water lines.  They claim the higher boiling temp
   prevents or reduces boiling in the heads adjacent to the combustion
   chambers, which helps reduce hot spots in the chambers and resulting
   detonation.  But even if you can live with higher coolant temp, it
   could be an issue with an oil to water heat exchanger if you are
   thinking about that as an option.
   It seems like most gearheads extrapolate from limited experience and
   will swear that a product is terrible or wonderful.  There are so many
   variable that it's hard to know what really made an engine overheat or
   run cooler, unless there is a clear issue, like fans running backwards.
   web site:  [1]http://www.evanscooling.com/products/coolants/
   Ken
   From: Dave <dave at damardirect.com>
   To: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>;
   "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:26 PM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Waterless Engine Coolant
   Flammable worries a lot of people. I think I read something about
   banned from SCCA but not sure.
   -----Original Message-----
   From: [2]michael at michaelshortt.com
   [mailto:[3]michael at michaelshortt.com]
   Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:53 PM
   To: [4]detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Waterless Engine Coolant
   Is anybody using Evans Waterless Coolant or any other brand?
   Aside from the cost ( in a Pantera, about $150.00 ), any noticed
   advantages?
   How much higher does it raise the operating temp?
   Can it be used on track ( rules generally prohibit antifreeze)?
   Michael Shortt
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   Michael L. Shortt
   Savannah, Georgia
   www.michaelshortt.com
   [5]michael at michaelshortt.com
   912-232-9390
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References

   1. http://www.evanscooling.com/products/coolants/
   2. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
   3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
   4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   5. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
   6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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