[DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value

Thu Mar 27 05:08:11 EDT 2014

In our country the pre-war cars are already declining. We have a small 
local market, and there just isn't enough guys who are interested in 
them anymore.

-Janne

27.3.2014 5.33, Will Kooiman kirjoitti:
> Gray,
>
> I think that sums it up pretty well.
>
> I want a Pantera because I lusted after it as a teenager.  If I had been
> born 10 years later, I would probably be lusting after a ZR1, and Panteras
> would be in the same category as Deloreans - cool cars, but probably not
> cool enough for me to buy it.
>
>
> On 3/26/14 6:24 PM, "Gray Gregory" <rgg at gregorycook.com> wrote:
>
>> I've been expecting a decline in the prewar car market for the last few
>> years. It hasn't really happened yet, but the collector car market
>> overall has been so strong I think it's just a case of a rising tide
>> lifting all boats. While there will always be a market for the really
>> desirable stuff (Bugatti's, Bentley's, Duisenberg's etc.) I think the
>> more run of the mill prewar cars are going to struggle to find interest
>> with the next generation of collectors. Time will tell....
>>
>> Gray
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Dave
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 2:45 PM
>> To: Rob Dumoulin; Bill Lewis
>> Cc: De Tomaso List
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
>>
>> How about the cars like a '32 Cadillac16 cyl? Cars that fall in that
>> caliber, I would think are worrying about who will become the future
>> caretakers.
>> IndyDave
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rob Dumoulin [mailto:rob at dumoulins.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:42 PM
>> To: Bill Lewis
>> Cc: De Tomaso List
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
>>
>> Response inline
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2014 12:56 PM, "Bill Lewis" <lotus0005 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>     I think about this frequently and have mentioned it on here before -
>>>     about the "aging & graying" of the American auto enthusiast.  I don't
>>>     know if there is anything that can be done about the (seeming) lack
>>> of
>>>     interest in vehicles of contemporary male youths.  First question is,
>>>     is that true?  Then, if true - why?  Then, can it be turned around?
>>>       -----------------------------------------
>>>     -------------- -I think that if I were GM, instead of spending $$$$
>>> on
>>>     racing Corvettes, I would produce a 21st century version of the old
>>> TV
>>>     "Route 66" series.  And, if I were Harley Davidson, I would churn
>>> out a
>>>     bunch of the old motorcycle-gang B movies.  I mean, if you want kids
>>> to
>>>     smoke, what do you do - you have cool characters in TV/movies smoke.
>> I can see Senate hearings to ban sports cars because they represent what
>> is wrong with youth.
>>
>> .
>>>        ---BILL Lewis
>>>     From: terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
>>>     To: scscottc at gmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
>>>     Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:44:38 +0000
>>>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
>>> I agree.   But I think the people who own their Pantera's now (today)
>> will alway
>>> s drive them!
>>> I know I go through withdrawal if I go too long without firing up and
>> driving my
>>>   Pantera.
>>>
>>> Our cars will live on, but I think the next generations++ might not
>>> drive
>> them a
>>> s much.  In 2035 it
>>> would be fun to look down and see a Pantera blowing away electric cars
>>> on
>> the hi
>>> ghway. ;-)
>>> Of course availability of gas might be a problem.  <heh heh>
>>>
>>>
>>> Terry W. Himes
>>> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>>> Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
>>> Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead Rosetta/MEX/VEX
>>> Sequence Team Lead
>>> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>>> Cell:     (818) 653-8213
>>> Fax:     (818) 393-3147
>>> thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Scott Carpenter <scscottc at gmail.com<mailto:scscottc at gmail.com>>
>>> Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:55 AM
>>> To: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
>>>
>>> I've been with Hagerty since I got my Pantera fourteen years ago.
>>> Originally I had my Pantera on an agreed upon value policy of $35,000,
>>> last year I bumped it up to $60,000.  I've never had to make a claim
>>> so I guess so far I am happy with them.  If values keep going up I
>>> will
>> probably
>>> look at bumping it up in the next year or two.
>>>
>>> As someone who will probably never sell I am torn about the raise in
>>> values.  While I think it is great that the Pantera is finally given
>>> some recognition for being the great car we all know it is, I don't
>>> want it to become worth so much that it starts to make people not want
>>> to drive them.
>>> Personally even if my Pantera is worth $50-70K it is still a viable
>>> risk
>> to
>>> take for the same nice weekend drives that I usually take it on... If
>>> it were to drastically go up to say $150K then I might start to
>>> question the sanity of driving it amongst a sea of Pickups, SUVs and
>>> Minivans where the drivers may or may not be busy texting or yelling
>>> at the kids in back to see my tiny little Italian hot rod.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>> #1523
>>>
>>>
>>>     _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum
>>> Managed
>>>     by POCA DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at poca.com
>>>     http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>>>
>>> DeTomaso mailing list
>>> DeTomaso at poca.com
>>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>>
>> DeTomaso mailing list
>> DeTomaso at poca.com
>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>>
>> DeTomaso mailing list
>> DeTomaso at poca.com
>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>
> DeTomaso mailing list
> DeTomaso at poca.com
> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>