[DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value

Boyd Casey boyd411 at gmail.com
Tue Mar 25 18:58:07 EDT 2014


I think the rising value is the most important reason to keep updating the
agreed value of your insurance! That way if something (god forbid) does
happen you will get enough money to repair or replace you pantera. I don't
care how much they go up as long as i can get adequate coverage I will keep
driving mine. As far as young guys go when I managed a Honda ? BMW
franchise there were plenty of young guys into cars, the differnce is that
they were into "rice burners!" It;s actually amazing they take front wheel
drive 4 cylinder cars (like civics) put big turbos on them and some are
turning under 8 sec 1/4 miles!I think the young guys today face the same
issues we did when we were young, the really cool cars are just too much
money! So they work with what they can afford. Here is a car I found on
google
17. Rosado Racing / Alex Dieguez (USA)*
*
Car: 1982 Toyota Corolla<http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=toyota+corolla>
Chassis: 3/4 Chassis (RWD)
Engine: Toyota 3S-GTE
Best ET: 7.09 @ 194.80 mph
Video: http://www.grs-motorsports.net/noticias ... 09/123.wmv
Hard to believe! a 194mph 1983 Toyota Corolla! Who would have thunk?
Boyd
P.S. I called Hagerty and their premium was twice as much (literally) as
the quote I got from Grundy.


On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:

>    Response inline
>
>    On Mar 25, 2014 12:56 PM, "Bill Lewis" <[1]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
>    wrote:
>    >
>    >    I think about this frequently and have mentioned it on here before
>    -
>    >    about the "aging & graying" of the American auto enthusiast.  I
>    don't
>    >    know if there is anything that can be done about the (seeming)
>    lack of
>    >    interest in vehicles of contemporary male youths.  First question
>    is,
>    >    is that true?  Then, if true - why?  Then, can it be turned
>    around?
>    >      -----------------------------------------
>    >    -------------- -I think that if I were GM, instead of spending
>    $$$$ on
>    >    racing Corvettes, I would produce a 21st century version of the
>    old TV
>    >    "Route 66" series.  And, if I were Harley Davidson, I would churn
>    out a
>    >    bunch of the old motorcycle-gang B movies.  I mean, if you want
>    kids to
>    >    smoke, what do you do - you have cool characters in TV/movies
>    smoke.
>
>    I can see Senate hearings to ban sports cars because they represent
>    what is wrong with youth.
>
>    .
>    >       ---BILL Lewis
>    >    From: [2]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    >    To: [3]scscottc at gmail.com; [4]detomaso at poca.com
>    >    Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:44:38 +0000
>    >    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
>    > I agree.   But I think the people who own their Pantera's now (today)
>    will alway
>    > s drive them!
>    > I know I go through withdrawal if I go too long without firing up and
>    driving my
>    >  Pantera.
>    >
>    > Our cars will live on, but I think the next generations++ might not
>    drive them a
>    > s much.  In 2035 it
>    > would be fun to look down and see a Pantera blowing away electric
>    cars on the hi
>    > ghway. ;-)
>    > Of course availability of gas might be a problem.  <heh heh>
>    >
>    >
>    > Terry W. Himes
>    > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>    > Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
>    > Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
>    > Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
>    > Phone: (818) 393-6261
>    > Cell:     (818) 653-8213
>    > Fax:     (818) 393-3147
>    > [5]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[6]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>    >
>    >
>    > From: Scott Carpenter
>    <[7]scscottc at gmail.com<mailto:[8]scscottc at gmail.com>>
>    > Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:55 AM
>    > To: De Tomaso List
>    <[9]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:[10]detomaso at poca.com>>
>    > Subject: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
>    >
>    > I've been with Hagerty since I got my Pantera fourteen years ago.
>    > Originally I had my Pantera on an agreed upon value policy of
>    $35,000,
>    > last year I bumped it up to $60,000.  I've never had to make a claim
>    so I
>    > guess so far I am happy with them.  If values keep going up I will
>    probably
>    > look at bumping it up in the next year or two.
>    >
>    > As someone who will probably never sell I am torn about the raise in
>    > values.  While I think it is great that the Pantera is finally given
>    some
>    > recognition for being the great car we all know it is, I don't want
>    it to
>    > become worth so much that it starts to make people not want to drive
>    them.
>    > Personally even if my Pantera is worth $50-70K it is still a viable
>    risk to
>    > take for the same nice weekend drives that I usually take it on... If
>    it
>    > were to drastically go up to say $150K then I might start to question
>    the
>    > sanity of driving it amongst a sea of Pickups, SUVs and Minivans
>    where the
>    > drivers may or may not be busy texting or yelling at the kids in back
>    to
>    > see my tiny little Italian hot rod.
>    >
>    > Scott
>    > #1523
>    >
>    >
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> References
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>    1. mailto:lotus0005 at hotmail.com
>    2. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    3. mailto:scscottc at gmail.com
>    4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>    5. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    6. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    7. mailto:scscottc at gmail.com
>    8. mailto:scscottc at gmail.com
>    9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>   10. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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   I think the rising value is the most important reason to keep updating
   the agreed value of your insurance! That way if something (god forbid)
   does happen you will get enough money to repair or replace you pantera.
   I don't care how much they go up as long as i can get adequate coverage
   I will keep driving mine. As far as young guys go when I managed a
   Honda ? BMW franchise there were plenty of young guys into cars, the
   differnce is that they were into "rice burners!" It;s actually amazing
   they take front wheel drive 4 cylinder cars (like civics) put big
   turbos on them and some are turning under 8 sec 1/4 miles!I think the
   young guys today face the same issues we did when we were young, the
   really cool cars are just too much money! So they work with what they
   can afford. Here is a car I found on google

   17. Rosado Racing / Alex Dieguez (USA)*
   *
   Car: 1982 [1]Toyota Corolla
   Chassis: 3/4 Chassis (RWD)
   Engine: Toyota 3S-GTE
   Best ET: 7.09 @ 194.80 mph
   Video: [2]http://www.grs-motorsports.net/noticias ... 09/123.wmv
   Hard to believe! a 194mph 1983 Toyota Corolla! Who would have thunk?
   Boyd
   P.S. I called Hagerty and their premium was twice as much (literally)
   as the quote I got from Grundy.

   On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[3]rob at dumoulins.net>
   wrote:

        Response inline
        On Mar 25, 2014 12:56 PM, "Bill Lewis"
     <[1][4]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>

      wrote:
      >
      >    I think about this frequently and have mentioned it on here
   before
      -
      >    about the "aging & graying" of the American auto enthusiast.  I
      don't
      >    know if there is anything that can be done about the (seeming)
      lack of
      >    interest in vehicles of contemporary male youths.  First
   question
      is,
      >    is that true?  Then, if true - why?  Then, can it be turned
      around?
      >      -----------------------------------------
      >    -------------- -I think that if I were GM, instead of spending
      $$$$ on
      >    racing Corvettes, I would produce a 21st century version of the
      old TV
      >    "Route 66" series.  And, if I were Harley Davidson, I would
   churn
      out a
      >    bunch of the old motorcycle-gang B movies.  I mean, if you want
      kids to
      >    smoke, what do you do - you have cool characters in TV/movies
      smoke.

        I can see Senate hearings to ban sports cars because they
     represent
        what is wrong with youth.
        .
        >       ---BILL Lewis
        >    From: [2][5]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
        >    To: [3][6]scscottc at gmail.com; [4][7]detomaso at poca.com

      >    Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:44:38 +0000
      >    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased
   value
      > I agree.   But I think the people who own their Pantera's now
   (today)
      will alway
      > s drive them!
      > I know I go through withdrawal if I go too long without firing up
   and
      driving my
      >  Pantera.
      >
      > Our cars will live on, but I think the next generations++ might
   not
      drive them a
      > s much.  In 2035 it
      > would be fun to look down and see a Pantera blowing away electric
      cars on the hi
      > ghway. ;-)
      > Of course availability of gas might be a problem.  <heh heh>
      >
      >
      > Terry W. Himes
      > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
      > Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
      > Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
      > Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
      > Phone: [8](818) 393-6261
      > Cell:     [9](818) 653-8213
      > Fax:     [10](818) 393-3147

        > [5][11]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[6][12]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
        >
        >
        > From: Scott Carpenter
        <[7][13]scscottc at gmail.com<mailto:[8][14]scscottc at gmail.com>>

      > Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:55 AM
      > To: De Tomaso List

        <[9][15]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:[10][16]detomaso at poca.com>>

      > Subject: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
      >
      > I've been with Hagerty since I got my Pantera fourteen years ago.
      > Originally I had my Pantera on an agreed upon value policy of
      $35,000,
      > last year I bumped it up to $60,000.  I've never had to make a
   claim
      so I
      > guess so far I am happy with them.  If values keep going up I will
      probably
      > look at bumping it up in the next year or two.
      >
      > As someone who will probably never sell I am torn about the raise
   in
      > values.  While I think it is great that the Pantera is finally
   given
      some
      > recognition for being the great car we all know it is, I don't
   want
      it to
      > become worth so much that it starts to make people not want to
   drive
      them.
      > Personally even if my Pantera is worth $50-70K it is still a
   viable
      risk to
      > take for the same nice weekend drives that I usually take it on...
   If
      it
      > were to drastically go up to say $150K then I might start to
   question
      the
      > sanity of driving it amongst a sea of Pickups, SUVs and Minivans
      where the
      > drivers may or may not be busy texting or yelling at the kids in
   back
      to
      > see my tiny little Italian hot rod.
      >
      > Scott
      > #1523
      >
      >
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References

   1. http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=toyota+corolla
   2. http://www.grs-motorsports.net/noticias
   3. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
   4. mailto:lotus0005 at hotmail.com
   5. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
   6. mailto:scscottc at gmail.com
   7. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   8. tel:%28818%29%20393-6261
   9. tel:%28818%29%20653-8213
  10. tel:%28818%29%20393-3147
  11. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
  12. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
  13. mailto:scscottc at gmail.com
  14. mailto:scscottc at gmail.com
  15. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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  21. mailto:lotus0005 at hotmail.com
  22. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
  23. mailto:scscottc at gmail.com
  24. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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