[DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value

Himes, Terry (397C) terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Tue Mar 25 13:21:23 EDT 2014


Good points Bill.  My dad was a Ford mechanic (then a machinist, tool & die) so I always was under the hood with him.
We built our own Go-Kart (knocked off Dart Kart plans) with twin West-Bend 580's and raced every Saturday.
But today, that is less and less.  Very few people work in their own cars.
I was also building and launching bigger & bigger rockets out of my back yard and my dad encouraged that.  But Gemini
and Apollo were all over the news.  (today NASA discovery's cannot even displace Lindsey (eck) Lohan)

I think in the future hot cars like Pantera's it will be a cool fad thing, and go in cycles.   My grandkids will inherit my Pantera.
But what they will do with it after I'm gone is anybody's guess.



Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell:     (818) 653-8213
Fax:     (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>


From: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com<mailto:lotus0005 at hotmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:55 AM
To: Terry Himes <Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>, Scott Carpenter <scscottc at gmail.com<mailto:scscottc at gmail.com>>, De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value

I think about this frequently and have mentioned it on here before - about the "aging & graying" of the American auto enthusiast.  I don't know if there is anything that can be done about the (seeming) lack of interest in vehicles of contemporary male youths.  First question is, is that true?  Then, if true - why?  Then, can it be turned around?       -----------------------------------------                  -------------- -I think that if I were GM, instead of spending $$$$ on racing Corvettes, I would produce a 21st century version of the old TV "Route 66" series.  And, if I were Harley Davidson, I would churn out a bunch of the old motorcycle-gang B movies.  I mean, if you want kids to smoke, what do you do - you have cool characters in TV/movies smoke.      ---BILL Lewis

From: terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
To: scscottc at gmail.com<mailto:scscottc at gmail.com>; detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:44:38 +0000
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value


I agree.   But I think the people who own their Pantera's now (today) will always drive them!
I know I go through withdrawal if I go too long without firing up and driving my Pantera.

Our cars will live on, but I think the next generations++ might not drive them as much.  In 2035 it
would be fun to look down and see a Pantera blowing away electric cars on the highway. ;-)
Of course availability of gas might be a problem.  <heh heh>


Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell:     (818) 653-8213
Fax:     (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov><mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>


From: Scott Carpenter <scscottc at gmail.com<mailto:scscottc at gmail.com><mailto:scscottc at gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:55 AM
To: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com><mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value

I've been with Hagerty since I got my Pantera fourteen years ago.
Originally I had my Pantera on an agreed upon value policy of $35,000,
last year I bumped it up to $60,000.  I've never had to make a claim so I
guess so far I am happy with them.  If values keep going up I will probably
look at bumping it up in the next year or two.

As someone who will probably never sell I am torn about the raise in
values.  While I think it is great that the Pantera is finally given some
recognition for being the great car we all know it is, I don't want it to
become worth so much that it starts to make people not want to drive them.
Personally even if my Pantera is worth $50-70K it is still a viable risk to
take for the same nice weekend drives that I usually take it on... If it
were to drastically go up to say $150K then I might start to question the
sanity of driving it amongst a sea of Pickups, SUVs and Minivans where the
drivers may or may not be busy texting or yelling at the kids in back to
see my tiny little Italian hot rod.

Scott
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   Good points Bill.  My dad was a Ford mechanic (then a machinist, tool &
   die) so I always was under the hood with him.
   We built our own Go-Kart (knocked off Dart Kart plans) with twin
   West-Bend 580's and raced every Saturday.
   But today, that is less and less.  Very few people work in their own
   cars.
   I was also building and launching bigger & bigger rockets out of my
   back yard and my dad encouraged that.  But Gemini
   and Apollo were all over the news.  (today NASA discovery's cannot even
   displace Lindsey (eck) Lohan)
   I think in the future hot cars like Pantera's it will be a cool fad
   thing, and go in cycles.   My grandkids will inherit my Pantera.
   But what they will do with it after I'm gone is anybody's guess.

   Terry W. Himes

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead

   Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead

   Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:     (818) 653-8213

   Fax:     (818) 393-3147

   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   From: Bill Lewis <[2]lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
   Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:55 AM
   To: Terry Himes <[3]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, Scott Carpenter
   <[4]scscottc at gmail.com>, De Tomaso List <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value

   I think about this frequently and have mentioned it on here before -
   about the "aging & graying" of the American auto enthusiast.  I don't
   know if there is anything that can be done about the (seeming) lack of
   interest in vehicles of contemporary male youths.  First question is,
   is that true?  Then, if true - why?  Then, can it be turned around?
     -----------------------------------------
   -------------- -I think that if I were GM, instead of spending $$$$ on
   racing Corvettes, I would produce a 21st century version of the old TV
   "Route 66" series.  And, if I were Harley Davidson, I would churn out a
   bunch of the old motorcycle-gang B movies.  I mean, if you want kids to
   smoke, what do you do - you have cool characters in TV/movies smoke.
      ---BILL Lewis
   From: [6]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
   To: [7]scscottc at gmail.com; [8]detomaso at poca.com
   Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:44:38 +0000
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
I agree.   But I think the people who own their Pantera's now (today) will alway
s drive them!
I know I go through withdrawal if I go too long without firing up and driving my
 Pantera.

Our cars will live on, but I think the next generations++ might not drive them a
s much.  In 2035 it
would be fun to look down and see a Pantera blowing away electric cars on the hi
ghway. ;-)
Of course availability of gas might be a problem.  <heh heh>


Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell:     (818) 653-8213
Fax:     (818) 393-3147
[9]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[10]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>


From: Scott Carpenter <[11]scscottc at gmail.com<[12]mailto:scscottc at gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:55 AM
To: De Tomaso List <[13]detomaso at poca.com<[14]mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value

I've been with Hagerty since I got my Pantera fourteen years ago.
Originally I had my Pantera on an agreed upon value policy of $35,000,
last year I bumped it up to $60,000.  I've never had to make a claim so I
guess so far I am happy with them.  If values keep going up I will probably
look at bumping it up in the next year or two.

As someone who will probably never sell I am torn about the raise in
values.  While I think it is great that the Pantera is finally given some
recognition for being the great car we all know it is, I don't want it to
become worth so much that it starts to make people not want to drive them.
Personally even if my Pantera is worth $50-70K it is still a viable risk to
take for the same nice weekend drives that I usually take it on... If it
were to drastically go up to say $150K then I might start to question the
sanity of driving it amongst a sea of Pickups, SUVs and Minivans where the
drivers may or may not be busy texting or yelling at the kids in back to
see my tiny little Italian hot rod.

Scott
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