[DeTomaso] Amazing find!
Jim Gray
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Tue Mar 25 12:14:45 EDT 2014
Yours look good and I'm sure are more comfortable.
Jim
From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
To: Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Amazing find!
My understanding is that they were aluminum shells with glued on
pads that were 100% for looks, very uncomfortable. Only one set in the prototype.
If you look at other show cars back then, the styling was popular, very "2001".
Michael
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net> wrote:
Has anyone ever actually "seen" a set of those seats?
> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Amazing find!
>
> Now you all know where my inspiration came from.
> Michael
>
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:00 AM, [1][1]michael at michaelshortt.com
> <[2][2]michael at michaelshortt.com> wrote:
> Now you all know where my inspiration came from.
> Michael
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
>
> <[3][3]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Mike, where can I get those seats!
> Terry W. Himes
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
> Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
> Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
> Phone: [4](818) 393-6261
> Cell: [5](818) 653-8213
> Fax: [6](818) 393-3147
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>
> Date: Monday, March 24, 2014 9:34 PM
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>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Amazing find!
> Hi guys,
> Ron Southern tipped me off to this treasure trove of photos by
> Karl
> Ludvigsen, taken at a press day for the launch of the new
> Pantera,
> in
> 1970. These
> photos are housed as part of the Revs collection at Stanford
> University:
>
> [6][10]https://revslib.stanford.edu/?per_page=50&q=Pantera&utf8='?
>
> Look at all the hundreds of detail differences between this
> initial
> prototype, and the production Panteras. Different bumpers
> (notice
> the
> rear
> one-piece bumper?), side markers, dashboard, three-slot
> Campagnolo
> wheels,
> different taillights (not "Group 4" lights, but instead hand-made
> one-offs I
> think), decklid hinged at the rear instead of the front, tiny
> badges
> on
> the
> decklid instead of the rear panel, and on and on and on.
> I don't know if this car was a pushmobile or actually capable of
> being
> driven. There are no photos indicating that the car actually
> ran....
> Page 2 also shows a bunch of photos of So-Cal Pantera owners
> enjoying a
> Bob
> Bondurant racing school...good times!
> Mike
> References
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> 2. mailto:[12][10]MikeLDrew at aol.com
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Yours look good and I'm sure are more comfortable.
Jim
From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
To: Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net>
Cc: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>;
"MikeLDrew at aol.com" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; "detomaso at POCA.com"
<detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Amazing find!
My understanding is that they were aluminum shells with glued on
pads that were 100% for looks, very uncomfortable. Only one set in the
prototype.
If you look at other show cars back then, the styling was popular,
very "2001".
Michael
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Jim Gray <[1]grayjim at att.net> wrote:
Has anyone ever actually "seen" a set of those seats?
From: "[2]michael at michaelshortt.com"
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To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[4]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: "[5]MikeLDrew at aol.com" <[6]MikeLDrew at aol.com>;
"detomaso at POCA.com"
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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Amazing find!
Now you all know where my inspiration came from.
Michael
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:00 AM,
[1][1][8]michael at michaelshortt.com
<[2][2][9]michael at michaelshortt.com> wrote:
Now you all know where my inspiration came from.
Michael
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
<[3][3][10]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
Mike, where can I get those seats!
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: [4][11](818) 393-6261
Cell: [5][12](818) 653-8213
Fax: [6][13](818) 393-3147
[1][7][4][14]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
From: "[2][8][5][15]MikeLDrew at aol.com"
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Date: Monday, March 24, 2014 9:34 PM
To: "[4][7]detomaso at POCA.com" <[5][8]detomaso at POCA.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Amazing find!
Hi guys,
Ron Southern tipped me off to this treasure trove of photos by
Karl
Ludvigsen, taken at a press day for the launch of the new
Pantera,
in
1970. These
photos are housed as part of the Revs collection at Stanford
University:
[6][10][17]https://revslib.stanford.edu/?per_page=50&q=Pantera&utf8=
'?
Look at all the hundreds of detail differences between this
initial
prototype, and the production Panteras. Different bumpers
(notice
the
rear
one-piece bumper?), side markers, dashboard, three-slot
Campagnolo
wheels,
different taillights (not "Group 4" lights, but instead
hand-made
one-offs I
think), decklid hinged at the rear instead of the front, tiny
badges
on
the
decklid instead of the rear panel, and on and on and on.
I don't know if this car was a pushmobile or actually capable
of
being
driven. There are no photos indicating that the car actually
ran....
Page 2 also shows a bunch of photos of So-Cal Pantera owners
enjoying a
Bob
Bondurant racing school...good times!
Mike
References
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