[DeTomaso] Amazing find!

Jim Gray grayjim at att.net
Tue Mar 25 12:14:45 EDT 2014


Yours look good and I'm sure are more comfortable.
Jim

From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
To: Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net> 
Cc: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>; "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; "detomaso at POCA.com" <detomaso at poca.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Amazing find!



My understanding is that they were aluminum shells with glued on  
pads that were 100% for looks, very uncomfortable. Only one set in the prototype.
 If you look at other show cars back then, the styling was popular, very "2001".

Michael



On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net> wrote:

   Has anyone ever actually "seen" a set of those seats?
>   From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
>   To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>   Cc: "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; "detomaso at POCA.com"
>   <detomaso at poca.com>
>   Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:03 AM
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Amazing find!
>
>     Now you all know where my inspiration came from.
>     Michael
>
>     On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:00 AM, [1][1]michael at michaelshortt.com
>     <[2][2]michael at michaelshortt.com> wrote:
>     Now you all know where my inspiration came from.
>     Michael
>     On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)
>
>     <[3][3]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>         Mike, where can I get those seats!
>         Terry W. Himes
>         JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>         Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
>         Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
>         Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
>         Phone: [4](818) 393-6261
>         Cell:    [5](818) 653-8213
>         Fax:    [6](818) 393-3147
>         [1][7][4]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>         From: "[2][8][5]MikeLDrew at aol.com" <[3][9][6]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>
>         Date: Monday, March 24, 2014 9:34 PM
>         To: "[4][7]detomaso at POCA.com" <[5][8]detomaso at POCA.com>
>
>         Subject: [DeTomaso] Amazing find!
>         Hi guys,
>         Ron Southern tipped me off to this treasure trove of photos by
>   Karl
>         Ludvigsen, taken at a press day for the launch of the new
>   Pantera,
>     in
>         1970.  These
>         photos are housed as part of the Revs collection at Stanford
>         University:
>
>   [6][10]https://revslib.stanford.edu/?per_page=50&q=Pantera&utf8='?
>
>         Look at all the hundreds of detail differences between this
>   initial
>         prototype, and the production Panteras.  Different bumpers
>   (notice
>     the
>         rear
>         one-piece bumper?), side markers, dashboard, three-slot
>   Campagnolo
>         wheels,
>         different taillights (not "Group 4" lights, but instead hand-made
>         one-offs I
>         think), decklid hinged at the rear instead of the front, tiny
>   badges
>     on
>         the
>         decklid instead of the rear panel, and on and on and on.
>         I don't know if this car was a pushmobile or actually capable of
>     being
>         driven.  There are no photos indicating that the car actually
>     ran....
>         Page 2 also shows a bunch of photos of So-Cal Pantera owners
>     enjoying a
>         Bob
>         Bondurant racing school...good times!
>         Mike
>     References
>         1. mailto:[11][9]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>         2. mailto:[12][10]MikeLDrew at aol.com
>         3. mailto:[13][11]MikeLDrew at aol.com
>         4. mailto:[14][12]detomaso at POCA.com
>         5. mailto:[15][13]detomaso at POCA.com
>         6.
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>     4. tel:%28818%29%20393-6261
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>     6. tel:%28818%29%20393-3147
>     7. mailto:[22]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>     8. mailto:[23]MikeLDrew at aol.com
>     9. mailto:[24]MikeLDrew at aol.com
>     10. [25]https://revslib.stanford.edu/?per_page=50&q=Pantera&utf8=
>     11. mailto:[26]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>     12. mailto:[27]MikeLDrew at aol.com
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>     14. mailto:[29]detomaso at POCA.com
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>     16. [31]https://revslib.stanford.edu/?per_page=50&q=Pantera&utf8=
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>   3. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
>   4. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>   5. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
>   6. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
>   7. mailto:detomaso at POCA.com
>   8. mailto:detomaso at POCA.com
>   9. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>  10. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
>  11. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
>  12. mailto:detomaso at POCA.com
>  13. mailto:detomaso at POCA.com
>  14. https://revslib.stanford.edu/?per_page=50&q=Pantera&utf8=
>  15. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>  16. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>  17. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
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>  21. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
>  22. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>  23. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
>  24. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
>  25. https://revslib.stanford.edu/?per_page=50&q=Pantera&utf8=
>  26. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>  27. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
>  28. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
>  29. mailto:detomaso at POCA.com
>  30. mailto:detomaso at POCA.com
>  31. https://revslib.stanford.edu/?per_page=50&q=Pantera&utf8=
>  32. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>  33. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>  34. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
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   Yours look good and I'm sure are more comfortable.
   Jim
   From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
   To: Jim Gray <grayjim at att.net>
   Cc: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>;
   "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <MikeLDrew at aol.com>; "detomaso at POCA.com"
   <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:01 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Amazing find!
   My understanding is that they were aluminum shells with glued on
   pads that were 100% for looks, very uncomfortable. Only one set in the
   prototype.
    If you look at other show cars back then, the styling was popular,
   very "2001".
   Michael
   On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Jim Gray <[1]grayjim at att.net> wrote:

        Has anyone ever actually "seen" a set of those seats?
        From: "[2]michael at michaelshortt.com"
     <[3]michael at michaelshortt.com>
        To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[4]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
        Cc: "[5]MikeLDrew at aol.com" <[6]MikeLDrew at aol.com>;
     "detomaso at POCA.com"
        <[7]detomaso at poca.com>
        Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:03 AM
        Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Amazing find!

        Now you all know where my inspiration came from.
        Michael

        On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:00 AM,
   [1][1][8]michael at michaelshortt.com
        <[2][2][9]michael at michaelshortt.com> wrote:
        Now you all know where my inspiration came from.
        Michael
        On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Himes, Terry (397C)

        <[3][3][10]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
            Mike, where can I get those seats!
            Terry W. Himes
            JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
            Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
            Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
            Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead

              Phone: [4][11](818) 393-6261
              Cell:    [5][12](818) 653-8213
              Fax:    [6][13](818) 393-3147
              [1][7][4][14]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
              From: "[2][8][5][15]MikeLDrew at aol.com"
     <[3][9][6][16]MikeLDrew at aol.com>

            Date: Monday, March 24, 2014 9:34 PM

              To: "[4][7]detomaso at POCA.com" <[5][8]detomaso at POCA.com>

            Subject: [DeTomaso] Amazing find!
            Hi guys,
            Ron Southern tipped me off to this treasure trove of photos by
      Karl
            Ludvigsen, taken at a press day for the launch of the new
      Pantera,
        in
            1970.  These
            photos are housed as part of the Revs collection at Stanford
            University:


     [6][10][17]https://revslib.stanford.edu/?per_page=50&q=Pantera&utf8=
     '?

            Look at all the hundreds of detail differences between this
      initial
            prototype, and the production Panteras.  Different bumpers
      (notice
        the
            rear
            one-piece bumper?), side markers, dashboard, three-slot
      Campagnolo
            wheels,
            different taillights (not "Group 4" lights, but instead
   hand-made
            one-offs I
            think), decklid hinged at the rear instead of the front, tiny
      badges
        on
            the
            decklid instead of the rear panel, and on and on and on.
            I don't know if this car was a pushmobile or actually capable
   of
        being
            driven.  There are no photos indicating that the car actually
        ran....
            Page 2 also shows a bunch of photos of So-Cal Pantera owners
        enjoying a
            Bob
            Bondurant racing school...good times!
            Mike
        References

              1. mailto:[11][9][18]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
              2. mailto:[12][10][19]MikeLDrew at aol.com
              3. mailto:[13][11][20]MikeLDrew at aol.com
              4. mailto:[14][12]detomaso at POCA.com
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          7. mailto:[22][32]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
          8. mailto:[23][33]MikeLDrew at aol.com
          9. mailto:[24][34]MikeLDrew at aol.com
          10.
     [25][35]https://revslib.stanford.edu/?per_page=50&q=Pantera&utf8=
          11. mailto:[26][36]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
          12. mailto:[27][37]MikeLDrew at aol.com
          13. mailto:[28][38]MikeLDrew at aol.com
          14. mailto:[29]detomaso at POCA.com
          15. mailto:[30]detomaso at POCA.com
          16.
     [31][39]https://revslib.stanford.edu/?per_page=50&q=Pantera&utf8=
          17. mailto:[32][40]DeTomaso at poca.com
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       23. mailto:[71]MikeLDrew at aol.com
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       27. mailto:[75]MikeLDrew at aol.com
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       29. mailto:[77]detomaso at POCA.com
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  77. mailto:detomaso at POCA.com
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  82. http://www.michaelshortt.com/
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