[DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value

Bill Lewis lotus0005 at hotmail.com
Tue Mar 25 10:32:11 EDT 2014


With the value of Panteras having gone up 50% and more in the last couple of years - have many of you increased the "fixed value" on your insurance policies?  (I'm with Heacock, also)     ---BILL Lewis

From: julian_kift at hotmail.com
To: arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com; boyd411 at gmail.com
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:42:56 -0700
CC: detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value

I'm with the BJ endorsed program, it is underwritten by AIG now that TDS got acquired by AIG. It is by far the cheapest option I have found and I have 5 cars with them, before that I was with American Collectors and halved my insurance bill with the switch.
 
Julian
 
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:14:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
From: arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com
To: boyd411 at gmail.com
CC: julian_kift at hotmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
 
BJ Insurance is a re-seller of American Modern Home Insurance (Heacock Classic is one of their re-sellers too).
When it comes to insuring classic cars, there aren't not too many options for fixed value insurance coverage. Most regular insurance companies (StateFarm, Nationwide, GEICO etc.) will do fixed value coverage up to $150K, but when you go above that it's slim pickings - the only choices I have found are American Modern, Chubb (if you bundle with a >$1M home insurance policy), and Hagerty. I have 4 cars insured through American Modern and luckily haven't had the need to actually use the coverage.
 
 
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
 
   Thanks for the feed back guys. I already had the Haggerty guide ( it is
 
   a handy tool for research on which cars are going up in value and which
 
   are declining) My insurance company (American Modern Home) is a
 
   subsideary of GEICO and they have been a pain in the ass since day one.
 
   I have never had a claim (except one for road service) and that whole
 
   expierience was a fiasco. I am seriously considering changing my
 
   insurance company. BJ sounds good (it has a nice ring to it!) LOL.
 
   Boyd
 
 
 
   On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Julian Kift
 
   <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
 
 
 
   Hagerty actually has an online valuation tool; condition 1 1973 Pantera
 
   L valued at $73,300 as of Dec 2013. There is also a trade guide for
 
   classic car valuation, I think it is a Glass's guide.
 
 
 
   Julian
 
 
 
   To: [2]boyd411 at gmail.com; [3]detomaso at poca.com
 
   From: [4]tmshinro at aol.com
 
   Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 12:05:20 -0400
 
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
 
 
 
 I have Barrett-Jackson insurance and when it came time to renew I decided to up
 
 my agreed upon value.  When I told my agent what I wanted to increase value to
 
$60K she looked it up in some kind of classic car price guide and said it showed
 
 the value to be $72K.  I can't remember what the name of the price guide was (m
 
aybe Hemmings).   So one of your sources would be such a guide.  I suspect the g
 
uide would not reflect the cost of upgrades you made though.
 
 
 
 
 
Tom
 
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From: Boyd Casey <[5]boyd411 at gmail.com>
 
To: detomaso <[6]detomaso at poca.com>
 
 
 
Sent: Mon, Mar 24, 2014 10:54 am
 
Subject: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
 
 
 
 
 
   Greetings,
 
   I am in the process of renewing my Pantera's insurance and I want to
 
   increase the insured value.  Besides the thousands I have spent on new
 
 
 
   suspension , brembo brakes, cv loints updated ac etc. I told the
 
   insurance company that the market value of Panteras has increased over
 
   the years I have owned my car  ( since 2008). Does anyone have anything
 
 
 
   that would support the current values of Panteras in the market place
 
   or any suggestions as to a source for this info.  They suggested recent
 
   sales records.I know some of you follow this and I have seen allot of
 
 
 
   the Panteras sold on E-bay for higher prices but once they are sold I
 
   believe the ebay info is no longer accessible.So any help with this
 
   would be greatly appreciated.
 
   Boyd
 
 
 
 
 
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   4. mailto:tmshinro at aol.com
 
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   With the value of Panteras having gone up 50% and more in the last
   couple of years - have many of you increased the "fixed value" on your
   insurance policies?  (I'm with Heacock, also)     ---BILL Lewis
   From: julian_kift at hotmail.com
   To: arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com; boyd411 at gmail.com
   Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:42:56 -0700
   CC: detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
I'm with the BJ endorsed program, it is underwritten by AIG now that TDS got acq
uired by AIG. It is by far the cheapest option I have found and I have 5 cars wi
th them, before that I was with American Collectors and halved my insurance bill
 with the switch.

Julian

Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:14:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
From: arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com
To: boyd411 at gmail.com
CC: julian_kift at hotmail.com; detomaso at poca.com

BJ Insurance is a re-seller of American Modern Home Insurance (Heacock Classic i
s one of their re-sellers too).
When it comes to insuring classic cars, there aren't not too many options for fi
xed value insurance coverage. Most regular insurance companies (StateFarm, Natio
nwide, GEICO etc.) will do fixed value coverage up to $150K, but when you go abo
ve that it's slim pickings - the only choices I have found are American Modern,
Chubb (if you bundle with a >$1M home insurance policy), and Hagerty. I have 4 c
ars insured through American Modern and luckily haven't had the need to actually
 use the coverage.


On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:

   Thanks for the feed back guys. I already had the Haggerty guide ( it is

   a handy tool for research on which cars are going up in value and which

   are declining) My insurance company (American Modern Home) is a

   subsideary of GEICO and they have been a pain in the ass since day one.

   I have never had a claim (except one for road service) and that whole

   expierience was a fiasco. I am seriously considering changing my

   insurance company. BJ sounds good (it has a nice ring to it!) LOL.

   Boyd



   On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Julian Kift

   <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:



   Hagerty actually has an online valuation tool; condition 1 1973 Pantera

   L valued at $73,300 as of Dec 2013. There is also a trade guide for

   classic car valuation, I think it is a Glass's guide.



   Julian



   To: [2]boyd411 at gmail.com; [3]detomaso at poca.com

   From: [4]tmshinro at aol.com

   Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 12:05:20 -0400

   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value



 I have Barrett-Jackson insurance and when it came time to renew I decided to up

 my agreed upon value.  When I told my agent what I wanted to increase value to

$60K she looked it up in some kind of classic car price guide and said it showed

 the value to be $72K.  I can't remember what the name of the price guide was (m

aybe Hemmings).   So one of your sources would be such a guide.  I suspect the g

uide would not reflect the cost of upgrades you made though.





Tom

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-----Original Message-----

From: Boyd Casey <[5]boyd411 at gmail.com>

To: detomaso <[6]detomaso at poca.com>



Sent: Mon, Mar 24, 2014 10:54 am

Subject: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value





   Greetings,

   I am in the process of renewing my Pantera's insurance and I want to

   increase the insured value.  Besides the thousands I have spent on new



   suspension , brembo brakes, cv loints updated ac etc. I told the

   insurance company that the market value of Panteras has increased over

   the years I have owned my car  ( since 2008). Does anyone have anything



   that would support the current values of Panteras in the market place

   or any suggestions as to a source for this info.  They suggested recent

   sales records.I know some of you follow this and I have seen allot of



   the Panteras sold on E-bay for higher prices but once they are sold I

   believe the ebay info is no longer accessible.So any help with this

   would be greatly appreciated.

   Boyd





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