[DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Mon Mar 24 13:42:56 EDT 2014


I'm with the BJ endorsed program, it is underwritten by AIG now that TDS got acquired by AIG. It is by far the cheapest option I have found and I have 5 cars with them, before that I was with American Collectors and halved my insurance bill with the switch.
 
Julian
 
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:14:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
From: arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com
To: boyd411 at gmail.com
CC: julian_kift at hotmail.com; detomaso at poca.com

BJ Insurance is a re-seller of American Modern Home Insurance (Heacock Classic is one of their re-sellers too).
When it comes to insuring classic cars, there aren't not too many options for fixed value insurance coverage. Most regular insurance companies (StateFarm, Nationwide, GEICO etc.) will do fixed value coverage up to $150K, but when you go above that it's slim pickings - the only choices I have found are American Modern, Chubb (if you bundle with a >$1M home insurance policy), and Hagerty. I have 4 cars insured through American Modern and luckily haven't had the need to actually use the coverage.


On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:

   Thanks for the feed back guys. I already had the Haggerty guide ( it is

   a handy tool for research on which cars are going up in value and which

   are declining) My insurance company (American Modern Home) is a

   subsideary of GEICO and they have been a pain in the ass since day one.

   I have never had a claim (except one for road service) and that whole

   expierience was a fiasco. I am seriously considering changing my

   insurance company. BJ sounds good (it has a nice ring to it!) LOL.

   Boyd



   On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Julian Kift

   <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:



   Hagerty actually has an online valuation tool; condition 1 1973 Pantera

   L valued at $73,300 as of Dec 2013. There is also a trade guide for

   classic car valuation, I think it is a Glass's guide.



   Julian



   To: [2]boyd411 at gmail.com; [3]detomaso at poca.com

   From: [4]tmshinro at aol.com

   Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 12:05:20 -0400

   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value



 I have Barrett-Jackson insurance and when it came time to renew I decided to up

 my agreed upon value.  When I told my agent what I wanted to increase value to

$60K she looked it up in some kind of classic car price guide and said it showed

 the value to be $72K.  I can't remember what the name of the price guide was (m

aybe Hemmings).   So one of your sources would be such a guide.  I suspect the g

uide would not reflect the cost of upgrades you made though.





Tom

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From: Boyd Casey <[5]boyd411 at gmail.com>

To: detomaso <[6]detomaso at poca.com>



Sent: Mon, Mar 24, 2014 10:54 am

Subject: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value





   Greetings,

   I am in the process of renewing my Pantera's insurance and I want to

   increase the insured value.  Besides the thousands I have spent on new



   suspension , brembo brakes, cv loints updated ac etc. I told the

   insurance company that the market value of Panteras has increased over

   the years I have owned my car  ( since 2008). Does anyone have anything



   that would support the current values of Panteras in the market place

   or any suggestions as to a source for this info.  They suggested recent

   sales records.I know some of you follow this and I have seen allot of



   the Panteras sold on E-bay for higher prices but once they are sold I

   believe the ebay info is no longer accessible.So any help with this

   would be greatly appreciated.

   Boyd





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   I'm with the BJ endorsed program, it is underwritten by AIG now that
   TDS got acquired by AIG. It is by far the cheapest option I have found
   and I have 5 cars with them, before that I was with American Collectors
   and halved my insurance bill with the switch.

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:14:21 -0400
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
   From: arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com
   To: boyd411 at gmail.com
   CC: julian_kift at hotmail.com; detomaso at poca.com
   BJ Insurance is a re-seller of American Modern Home Insurance (Heacock
   Classic is one of their re-sellers too).
   When it comes to insuring classic cars, there aren't not too many
   options for fixed value insurance coverage. Most regular insurance
   companies (StateFarm, Nationwide, GEICO etc.) will do fixed value
   coverage up to $150K, but when you go above that it's slim pickings -
   the only choices I have found are American Modern, Chubb (if you bundle
   with a >$1M home insurance policy), and Hagerty. I have 4 cars insured
   through American Modern and luckily haven't had the need to actually
   use the coverage.
   On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
   wrote:

        Thanks for the feed back guys. I already had the Haggerty guide (
     it is
        a handy tool for research on which cars are going up in value and
     which
        are declining) My insurance company (American Modern Home) is a
        subsideary of GEICO and they have been a pain in the ass since
     day one.
        I have never had a claim (except one for road service) and that
     whole
        expierience was a fiasco. I am seriously considering changing my
        insurance company. BJ sounds good (it has a nice ring to it!)
     LOL.
        Boyd
        On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Julian Kift
        <[1][2]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
        Hagerty actually has an online valuation tool; condition 1 1973
     Pantera
        L valued at $73,300 as of Dec 2013. There is also a trade guide
     for
        classic car valuation, I think it is a Glass's guide.
        Julian
        To: [2][3]boyd411 at gmail.com; [3][4]detomaso at poca.com
        From: [4][5]tmshinro at aol.com
        Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 12:05:20 -0400
        Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
      I have Barrett-Jackson insurance and when it came time to renew I
     decided to up
      my agreed upon value.  When I told my agent what I wanted to
     increase value to
     $60K she looked it up in some kind of classic car price guide and
     said it showed
      the value to be $72K.  I can't remember what the name of the price
     guide was (m
     aybe Hemmings).   So one of your sources would be such a guide.  I
     suspect the g
     uide would not reflect the cost of upgrades you made though.
     Tom
     5186
     -----Original Message-----
     From: Boyd Casey <[5][6]boyd411 at gmail.com>
     To: detomaso <[6][7]detomaso at poca.com>
     Sent: Mon, Mar 24, 2014 10:54 am
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Documentation of Panteras increased value
        Greetings,
        I am in the process of renewing my Pantera's insurance and I want
     to
        increase the insured value.  Besides the thousands I have spent
     on new
        suspension , brembo brakes, cv loints updated ac etc. I told the
        insurance company that the market value of Panteras has increased
     over
        the years I have owned my car  ( since 2008). Does anyone have
     anything
        that would support the current values of Panteras in the market
     place
        or any suggestions as to a source for this info.  They suggested
     recent
        sales records.I know some of you follow this and I have seen
     allot of
        the Panteras sold on E-bay for higher prices but once they are
     sold I
        believe the ebay info is no longer accessible.So any help with
     this
        would be greatly appreciated.
        Boyd
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