[DeTomaso] NPC: email replies

michael at michaelshortt.com michael at michaelshortt.com
Thu Mar 20 22:39:48 EDT 2014


Ditto.  Love the emails.

Michael
On Mar 20, 2014 10:32 PM, "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:

> Which appears to be the overwhelming majority response, since the on
> line forum was one of the first things rebuilt on the compromised POCA
> web site, yet it still gets very little traffic.  :)
>
> Asa  Jay
> (personally I prefer this method to the on line forum anyway)
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>
>
> On 3/20/2014 4:12 PM, B Hower wrote:
> > Quoting Asa, "I would venture the appropriate solution in this case is
> > to move the
> > conversation on-line to the forum POCA has there."
> >
> > I say thanks, but no thanks.
> >
> > Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be !
> )
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
> > *To:* detomaso at poca.com
> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:39 AM
> > *Subject:* [DeTomaso] NPC: email replies
> >
> > As Chuck pointed out, most email packages allow you to reply either with
> > or without the text of the message you are replying to.  That's an
> > all-or-nothing deal though.  And as Will pointed out, if you don't
> > include at least -some- of what you are replying to, then it can
> > sometimes become confusing to the person reading the email.
> >
> > When replying and including the text of the email you are replying to,
> > some mailers allow you to begin your reply either before or after the
> > quoted text.  Most folks put their -new- text before the older text,
> > like I'm doing here.
> >
> > Others, like Mike Drew, will add their comments directly beneath the
> > text they are replying to.  This makes it easier and more
> > conversational; especially with Mike as he will typically divide an
> > email and answer pieces individually.  I sometimes do the same thing but
> > it becomes a manual process.
> >
> > I believe the original question/complaint centered more around replying
> > only to the "latest" reply and not having several pages of prior
> > conversation.  Unfortunately, this is not the all-or-nothing approach
> > most email software has.  And the Mailman list software archives the
> > -entire- message, without tying to figure out exactly what text of each
> > email is the very latest and deleting all prior replies.  It might be a
> > "cool" feature, but as Will points out, it could make it rather
> > frustrating when trying to follow a conversation when looking in the
> > archives without having to open every email going backwards to try and
> > figure out what was being discussed.
> >
> > I would venture the appropriate solution in this case is to move the
> > conversation on-line to the forum POCA has there.  You can quickly see
> > each prior response and your reply is stand-alone unless you select
> > specific prior text to "quote."
> >
> > Asa  Jay
> >
> > Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> > & Shelley Marie
> > Spokane, WA
> > ******************************
> > http://www.racingagainstautism.com <http://www.racingagainstautism.com/>
> > http://www.teampanteraracing.com <http://www.teampanteraracing.com/>
> > http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
> >
> >
> > On 3/20/2014 4:07 AM, Will Kooiman wrote:
> > > That's funny, I never thought about that.
> > >
> > > I prefer having everything in the most recent reply.  I normally
> > skip over
> > > everything except for the most recent reply, so it irritates me when
> > > people delete the previous content.
> > >
> > > As I read e-mail, I delete it.  Sometimes people reply from a 3-4
> > day old
> > > thread, and I have to dig through my trash to figure out what was said
> > > previously.
> > >
> > > I never thought about how it would make the digest harder to read.
> > >
> > > Plus business e-mail doesn't use a digest, and most people I've worked
> > > with prefer to keep everything in the most recent reply.  It makes it
> > > easier to follow the thought process, if you keep it intact.  That's
> > why I
> > > never delete the previous content.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/19/14 11:46 PM, "Asa Jay Laughton" <asajay at asajay.com
> > <mailto:asajay at asajay.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >>  No such animal in the Mailman mailing list software.  Feel free to
> > code
> > >>  one up though. :)
> > >>  Asa  Jay
> > >> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> > >> & Shelley Marie
> > >> Spokane, WA
> > >> ******************************
> > >> [1]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> > <http://www.racingagainstautism.com/>
> > >> [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com <
> http://www.teampanteraracing.com/>
> > >> [3]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
> > >>
> > >>  On 3/19/2014 8:37 AM, Jeff Detrich wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Asa Jay Laughton
> > >>  <[4]asajay at asajay.com <mailto:asajay at asajay.com>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  Just do like I do, hit reply then highlight the majority of the email
> > >>  and just delete it.
> > >>
> > >>  Yep, that's usually what I do, too. But I'm trying to reduce the
> > volume
> > >>  from other people who don't do that. It would be nice if there was an
> > >>  option not to show all the previous emails you are responding to,
> > >>  especially for people who use the daily summary.
> > >>  Jeff
> > >>  6559
> > >>      _______________________________________________________________
> > >>
> > >>    No virus found in this message.
> > >>    Checked by AVG - [5]www.avg.com
> > >>    Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3722/6716 - Release Date:
> > >>    03/19/14
> > >>
> > >> References
> > >>
> > >>  1. http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
> > >>  2. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
> > >>  3. http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
> > >>  4. mailto:asajay at asajay.com <mailto:asajay at asajay.com>
> > >>  5. http://www.avg.com/
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >>
> > >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> > >>
> > >> DeTomaso mailing list
> > >> DeTomaso at poca.com <mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>
> > >> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > No virus found in this message.
> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >
> > > Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3722/6716 - Release Date: 03/19/14
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >
> > DeTomaso mailing list
> > DeTomaso at poca.com <mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>
> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > No virus found in this message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
> > Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3722/6723 - Release Date: 03/20/14
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
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   Ditto.  Love the emails.

   Michael

   On Mar 20, 2014 10:32 PM, "Asa Jay Laughton" <[1]asajay at asajay.com>
   wrote:

     Which appears to be the overwhelming majority response, since the on
     line forum was one of the first things rebuilt on the compromised
     POCA
     web site, yet it still gets very little traffic.  :)
     Asa  Jay
     (personally I prefer this method to the on line forum anyway)
     Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
     & Shelley Marie
     Spokane, WA
     ******************************
     [2]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
     [3]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
     [4]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
     On 3/20/2014 4:12 PM, B Hower wrote:
     > Quoting Asa, "I would venture the appropriate solution in this
     case is
     > to move the
     > conversation on-line to the forum POCA has there."
     >
     > I say thanks, but no thanks.
     >
     > Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may
     not be ! )
     >
     >
     --------------------------------------------------------------------
     ----
     > *From:* Asa Jay Laughton <[5]asajay at asajay.com>
     > *To:* [6]detomaso at poca.com
     > *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:39 AM
     > *Subject:* [DeTomaso] NPC: email replies
     >
     > As Chuck pointed out, most email packages allow you to reply
     either with
     > or without the text of the message you are replying to.  That's an
     > all-or-nothing deal though.  And as Will pointed out, if you don't
     > include at least -some- of what you are replying to, then it can
     > sometimes become confusing to the person reading the email.
     >
     > When replying and including the text of the email you are replying
     to,
     > some mailers allow you to begin your reply either before or after
     the
     > quoted text.  Most folks put their -new- text before the older
     text,
     > like I'm doing here.
     >
     > Others, like Mike Drew, will add their comments directly beneath
     the
     > text they are replying to.  This makes it easier and more
     > conversational; especially with Mike as he will typically divide
     an
     > email and answer pieces individually.  I sometimes do the same
     thing but
     > it becomes a manual process.
     >
     > I believe the original question/complaint centered more around
     replying
     > only to the "latest" reply and not having several pages of prior
     > conversation.  Unfortunately, this is not the all-or-nothing
     approach
     > most email software has.  And the Mailman list software archives
     the
     > -entire- message, without tying to figure out exactly what text of
     each
     > email is the very latest and deleting all prior replies.  It might
     be a
     > "cool" feature, but as Will points out, it could make it rather
     > frustrating when trying to follow a conversation when looking in
     the
     > archives without having to open every email going backwards to try
     and
     > figure out what was being discussed.
     >
     > I would venture the appropriate solution in this case is to move
     the
     > conversation on-line to the forum POCA has there.  You can quickly
     see
     > each prior response and your reply is stand-alone unless you
     select
     > specific prior text to "quote."
     >
     > Asa  Jay
     >
     > Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
     > & Shelley Marie
     > Spokane, WA
     > ******************************
     > [7]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
     <[8]http://www.racingagainstautism.com/>
     > [9]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
     <[10]http://www.teampanteraracing.com/>
     > [11]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
     >
     >
     > On 3/20/2014 4:07 AM, Will Kooiman wrote:
     > > That's funny, I never thought about that.
     > >
     > > I prefer having everything in the most recent reply.  I normally
     > skip over
     > > everything except for the most recent reply, so it irritates me
     when
     > > people delete the previous content.
     > >
     > > As I read e-mail, I delete it.  Sometimes people reply from a
     3-4
     > day old
     > > thread, and I have to dig through my trash to figure out what
     was said
     > > previously.
     > >
     > > I never thought about how it would make the digest harder to
     read.
     > >
     > > Plus business e-mail doesn't use a digest, and most people I've
     worked
     > > with prefer to keep everything in the most recent reply.  It
     makes it
     > > easier to follow the thought process, if you keep it intact.
     That's
     > why I
     > > never delete the previous content.
     > >
     > >
     > > On 3/19/14 11:46 PM, "Asa Jay Laughton" <[12]asajay at asajay.com
     > <mailto:[13]asajay at asajay.com>> wrote:
     > >
     > >>  No such animal in the Mailman mailing list software.  Feel
     free to
     > code
     > >>  one up though. :)
     > >>  Asa  Jay
     > >> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
     > >> & Shelley Marie
     > >> Spokane, WA
     > >> ******************************
     > >> [1][14]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
     > <[15]http://www.racingagainstautism.com/>
     > >> [2][16]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
     <[17]http://www.teampanteraracing.com/>
     > >> [3][18]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
     > >>
     > >>  On 3/19/2014 8:37 AM, Jeff Detrich wrote:
     > >>
     > >>  On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Asa Jay Laughton
     > >>  <[4][19]asajay at asajay.com <mailto:[20]asajay at asajay.com>>
     wrote:
     > >>
     > >>  Just do like I do, hit reply then highlight the majority of
     the email
     > >>  and just delete it.
     > >>
     > >>  Yep, that's usually what I do, too. But I'm trying to reduce
     the
     > volume
     > >>  from other people who don't do that. It would be nice if there
     was an
     > >>  option not to show all the previous emails you are responding
     to,
     > >>  especially for people who use the daily summary.
     > >>  Jeff
     > >>  6559
     > >>
     _______________________________________________________________
     > >>
     > >>    No virus found in this message.
     > >>    Checked by AVG - [5][21]www.avg.com
     > >>    Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3722/6716 - Release
     Date:
     > >>    03/19/14
     > >>
     > >> References
     > >>
     > >>  1. [22]http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
     > >>  2. [23]http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
     > >>  3. [24]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
     > >>  4. mailto:[25]asajay at asajay.com <mailto:[26]asajay at asajay.com>
     > >>  5. [27]http://www.avg.com/
     > >> _______________________________________________
     > >>
     > >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     > >>
     > >> DeTomaso mailing list
     > >> [28]DeTomaso at poca.com <mailto:[29]DeTomaso at poca.com>
     > >> [30]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     > >
     > >
     > >
     > > -----
     > > No virus found in this message.
     > > Checked by AVG - [31]www.avg.com
     >
     > > Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3722/6716 - Release Date:
     03/19/14
     > >
     > >
     >
     > _______________________________________________
     >
     > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     >
     > DeTomaso mailing list
     > [32]DeTomaso at poca.com <mailto:[33]DeTomaso at poca.com>
     > [34]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >
     >
     >
     --------------------------------------------------------------------
     ----
     >
     > No virus found in this message.
     > Checked by AVG - [35]www.avg.com <[36]http://www.avg.com>
     > Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3722/6723 - Release Date:
     03/20/14
     >
     _______________________________________________
     Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
     DeTomaso mailing list
     [37]DeTomaso at poca.com
     [38]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com

References

   1. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
   2. http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
   3. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
   4. http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
   5. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
   6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   7. http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
   8. http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
   9. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
  10. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
  11. http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
  12. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
  13. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
  14. http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
  15. http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
  16. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
  17. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
  18. http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
  19. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
  20. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
  21. http://www.avg.com/
  22. http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
  23. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
  24. http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
  25. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
  26. mailto:asajay at asajay.com
  27. http://www.avg.com/
  28. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  29. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  30. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  31. http://www.avg.com/
  32. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  33. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  34. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  35. http://www.avg.com/
  36. http://www.avg.com/
  37. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  38. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com


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