[DeTomaso] Filling Cracks in Split Dash
Rob Dumoulin
rob at dumoulins.net
Wed Mar 19 09:47:13 EDT 2014
I pulled my two-pod dash and recovered it a few years back. One thing I
wish I paid more attention to was the warping around the defrost vent where
the dash sagged down. No cracks like was mentioned, but now that it is all
together I see the dip in the dash that I wish I would have filled or
formed back up prior to recover.
Food for thought while you are at it.
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
rob at dumoulins.net
www.kbsi.co
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>wrote:
> Aren't both dashes covered? I have the 2-pod dash which is covered.
> That's why I suggested JB Weld. It has been a while since I saw a later
> dash.
>
> JB Weld is sandable, it is pretty easy to use, strong, and plastic-like.
>
> But if your dash is not covered, it would be difficult to reproduce a
> grain or perfectly smooth surface with JB Weld. You need to do something
> like MS suggests. Epoxy for strength, and something softer for the
> surface.
>
>
> On 3/19/14 6:29 AM, "michael at michaelshortt.com"
> <michael at michaelshortt.com> wrote:
>
> > Why not a combination of all of these?
> > Fiberglass tape on the back to form a solid foundation and stiffen up
> > the structure.
> > Then fill the actual crack with JB Weld. After that dries, brush on a
> > little fiberglass resin and use a really thin sheet of cloth to recover
> > the whole thing to achieve a consisent surface.
> > Cut and trim the excess after it dries, then re cover.
> >
> > Michael Shortt
> >
> > On Mar 19, 2014 1:06 AM, "James coyne" <[1]tecnosound at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > You might try calling the company called "Just Dashes" and see if
> > they
> > offer viable solutions for Pantera owners.
> > From: [2]julian_kift at hotmail.com
> > To: [3]mbefthomas at comcast.net; [4]detomaso at poca.com
> > Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 21:40:21 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Filling Cracks in Split Dash
> > I had a Corvette with a cracked dash and repaired it with one of the
> > specialist
> > kits. My experience was it took some learning to reproduce anything
> > like the ori
> > ginal wrinkle pattern and even when I became proficient it was still
> > visible as
> > a fix. More importantly it didn't hold up here in NV as the sun got
> > to the dash
> > the two plastics had different thermal expansion and it cracked
> > along the filled
> > edge.
> > I would recommend you go for recovering, get it done with leather
> > (or leatherett
> > e) with French seams and it will look awesome.
> > Julian
> > > From: [5]mbefthomas at comcast.net
> > > To: [6]detomaso at poca.com
> > > Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:49:05 -0700
> > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Filling Cracks in Split Dash
> > >
> > > What is the collective experience with a substance that can be
> > used to fill
> > > the front to back cracks in my Pantera dash, then sand or
> > otherwise abrade
> > > it smooth prior to recovering? The upholstery guy I'm using has
> > some ideas,
> > > but we thought it would be a good idea to tap this vast pool of
> > knowledge
> > > before he starts "trying something". He will be covering with a
> > black
> > > vinyl, no padding. I told him the dash, even as it is, is pretty
> > much
> > > unobtainium, so want to get right the first time if we can.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for your help and suggestions.
> > > Mike Thomas
> > > VP, POCA
> > > VP, Panteras Northwest
> > > Yellow '74 #6328
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > 3. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
> > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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I pulled my two-pod dash and recovered it a few years back. One thing I
wish I paid more attention to was the warping around the defrost vent
where the dash sagged down. No cracks like was mentioned, but now that
it is all together I see the dip in the dash that I wish I would have
filled or formed back up prior to recover.
Food for thought while you are at it.
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
[1]rob at dumoulins.net
[2]www.kbsi.co
[3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Will Kooiman
<[4]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
Aren't both dashes covered? I have the 2-pod dash which is covered.
That's why I suggested JB Weld. It has been a while since I saw a
later
dash.
JB Weld is sandable, it is pretty easy to use, strong, and
plastic-like.
But if your dash is not covered, it would be difficult to reproduce
a
grain or perfectly smooth surface with JB Weld. You need to do
something
like MS suggests. Epoxy for strength, and something softer for the
surface.
On 3/19/14 6:29 AM, "[5]michael at michaelshortt.com"
<[6]michael at michaelshortt.com> wrote:
> Why not a combination of all of these?
> Fiberglass tape on the back to form a solid foundation and
stiffen up
> the structure.
> Then fill the actual crack with JB Weld. After that dries, brush
on a
> little fiberglass resin and use a really thin sheet of cloth to
recover
> the whole thing to achieve a consisent surface.
> Cut and trim the excess after it dries, then re cover.
>
> Michael Shortt
>
> On Mar 19, 2014 1:06 AM, "James coyne"
<[1][7]tecnosound at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> You might try calling the company called "Just Dashes" and
see if
> they
> offer viable solutions for Pantera owners.
> From: [2][8]julian_kift at hotmail.com
> To: [3][9]mbefthomas at comcast.net; [4][10]detomaso at poca.com
> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 21:40:21 -0700
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Filling Cracks in Split Dash
> I had a Corvette with a cracked dash and repaired it with one
of the
> specialist
> kits. My experience was it took some learning to reproduce
anything
> like the ori
> ginal wrinkle pattern and even when I became proficient it was
still
> visible as
> a fix. More importantly it didn't hold up here in NV as the
sun got
> to the dash
> the two plastics had different thermal expansion and it
cracked
> along the filled
> edge.
> I would recommend you go for recovering, get it done with
leather
> (or leatherett
> e) with French seams and it will look awesome.
> Julian
> > From: [5][11]mbefthomas at comcast.net
> > To: [6][12]detomaso at poca.com
> > Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:49:05 -0700
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Filling Cracks in Split Dash
> >
> > What is the collective experience with a substance that can
be
> used to fill
> > the front to back cracks in my Pantera dash, then sand or
> otherwise abrade
> > it smooth prior to recovering? The upholstery guy I'm using
has
> some ideas,
> > but we thought it would be a good idea to tap this vast pool
of
> knowledge
> > before he starts "trying something". He will be covering
with a
> black
> > vinyl, no padding. I told him the dash, even as it is, is
pretty
> much
> > unobtainium, so want to get right the first time if we can.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your help and suggestions.
> > Mike Thomas
> > VP, POCA
> > VP, Panteras Northwest
> > Yellow '74 #6328
> >
> >
> >
> >
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