[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 120, Issue 25

Paul A Rimov rimovp at gmail.com
Wed Jun 25 20:11:27 EDT 2014


Oh I forgot about the completely disassembled quad headlight goose I could have bought, again here in Medford, for 20k. Dang should have grown a pair and bought it, but being I did not take it apart I was a little unsure if I could put it back together, and it had just been horribly painted that would have required a strip and reshoot. The Paul

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>   1. Car that got away (rcbsons1 at aol.com)
>   2. Re: Car that got away (michael at michaelshortt.com)
>   3. Leno's car (rcbsons1 at aol.com)
>   4. Re: Car that got away (rcbsons1 at aol.com)
>   5. Re: Car that got away (rcbsons1 at aol.com)
>   6. Re: Mike Drew on Jay Leno's Garage????? (Mikael)
>   7. Re: Car that got away (rcbsons1 at aol.com)
>   8. Re: Mike Drew on Jay Leno's Garage????? (Bjoern Flesland)
>   9. Re: Car that got away (Bill Lewis)
>  10. Car that got away (Garth Rodericks)
>  11. Re: Car that got away (Jeff Detrich)
>  12. Re: Car that got away (LS)
>  13. Re: Car that got away (bill gaino)
>  14. Wheel load rating (mark skwarek)
>  15. Re: Wheel load rating (michael at michaelshortt.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:13:02 -0400 (EDT)
> From: rcbsons1 at aol.com
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
> Message-ID: <8D15DFFD640C5DB-B70-AD9D at webmail-va032.sysops.aol.com>
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> When I was 17 I had a 69 Z28 Camero
> I received a number of citations, exhibition
> of speed, wreckless driving, engaged in a 
> speed contest, speeding-seems to be the
> common denominator... this all happened
> in 1 1/2 years and 80,000 miles.. Ole Dad
> said I think it is about time you sold that car
> son... went for $1800 dollars... I would have
> never sold that car but might not be alive today
> 
> Bob Benson Panteracer
> -------------- next part --------------
>   When I was 17 I had a 69 Z28 Camero
>   I received a number of citations, exhibition
>   of speed, wreckless driving, engaged in a
>   speed contest, speeding-seems to be the
>   common denominator... this all happened
>   in 1 1/2 years and 80,000 miles.. Ole Dad
>   said I think it is about time you sold that car
>   son... went for $1800 dollars... I would have
>   never sold that car but might not be alive today
>   Bob Benson Panteracer
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:23:24 -0400
> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> To: "RCBSONS1 at aol.com" <rcbsons1 at aol.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
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> So, you going to go there are you.
> 
> Sold cars
> 
> 1964 XKE Roadster   5,000
> 1973 XKE V12 Roasdster 6,000
> 1973 TR6 3,000
> 1972 Trans Am HD 455  3,200
> 1970 Fiat Dino 10,000
> 1980 911SC Targa 10,000
> 1970 Marcos GT 3,000
> 1960 Corvette 283   2,500
> 
> I can taste a little bit of vomit in my mouth.
> 
> 
> Michael Shortt
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, bens1 via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
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>>   When I was 17 I had a 69 Z28 Camero
>>   I received a number of citations, exhibition
>>   of speed, wreckless driving, engaged in a
>>   speed contest, speeding-seems to be the
>>   common denominator... this all happened
>>   in 1 1/2 years and 80,000 miles.. Ole Dad
>>   said I think it is about time you sold that car
>>   son... went for $1800 dollars... I would have
>>   never sold that car but might not be alive today
>>   Bob Benson Panteracer
>> 
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>   So, you going to go there are you.
>   Sold cars
>   1964 XKE Roadster A  5,000
>   1973 XKE V12 Roasdster 6,000
>   1973 TR6 3,000
>   1972 Trans Am HD 455 A 3,200
>   1970 Fiat Dino 10,000
>   1980 911SC Targa 10,000
>   1970 Marcos GT 3,000
>   1960 Corvette 283 A  2,500
>   I can taste a little bit of vomit in my mouth.
>   Michael Shortt
> 
>   On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, bens1 via DeTomaso
>   <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
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>     A  A When I was 17 I had a 69 Z28 Camero
>     A  A I received a number of citations, exhibition
>     A  A of speed, wreckless driving, engaged in a
>     A  A speed contest, speeding-seems to be the
>     A  A common denominator... this all happened
>     A  A in 1 1/2 years and 80,000 miles.. Ole Dad
>     A  A said I think it is about time you sold that car
>     A  A son... went for $1800 dollars... I would have
>     A  A never sold that car but might not be alive today
>     A  A Bob Benson Panteracer
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:30:34 -0400 (EDT)
> From: rcbsons1 at aol.com
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Leno's car
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> Mike great job as always you are our
> true ambassador for the mark
> 
> Jay is a really down to earth guy,
> approachable and knows his cars
> My son has several of his autographs
> and I have talked to him briefly several
> times in Monterey...a true gentlemen
> and car nut
> 
> Favorite story he told on stage one day
> He was at a gathering and afterward talked
> to the crowd and took pictures with some of them 
> when a little boy came up to him and asked...
> Mr. Leno will you give me a ride to school
> in your Countach?  Several weeks later Jay
> picked the boy up at his house and drove him
> to school.. when they approached the school
> everyone came running out to greet them
> 
> He went on to say he remembers getting a 
> ride from a neighbor in an old Jag when he
> was a young lad and that cemented his love
> for old cars... cool stuff
> 
> Bob Benson-Panteracer 
> -------------- next part --------------
>   Mike great job as always you are our
>   true ambassador for the mark
>   Jay is a really down to earth guy,
>   approachable and knows his cars
>   My son has several of his autographs
>   and I have talked to him briefly several
>   times in Monterey...a true gentlemen
>   and car nut
>   Favorite story he told on stage one day
>   He was at a gathering and afterward talked
>   to the crowd and took pictures with some of them
>   when a little boy came up to him and asked...
>   Mr. Leno will you give me a ride to school
>   in your Countach?  Several weeks later Jay
>   picked the boy up at his house and drove him
>   to school.. when they approached the school
>   everyone came running out to greet them
>   He went on to say he remembers getting a
>   ride from a neighbor in an old Jag when he
>   was a young lad and that cemented his love
>   for old cars... cool stuff
>   Bob Benson-Panteracer
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:32:31 -0400 (EDT)
> From: rcbsons1 at aol.com
> To: michael at michaelshortt.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
> Message-ID: <8D15E028E7B8305-B70-B073 at webmail-va032.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> Had to ...but did not have the collection you did...
> cool cars... but good to know you now have a true
> classic in the Pantera:)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> To: RCBSONS1 at aol.com <rcbsons1 at aol.com>
> Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 1:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
> 
> 
> So, you going to go there are you.
> 
> 
> Sold cars
> 
> 
> 1964 XKE Roadster   5,000
> 1973 XKE V12 Roasdster 6,000
> 1973 TR6 3,000
> 1972 Trans Am HD 455  3,200
> 1970 Fiat Dino 10,000
> 1980 911SC Targa 10,000
> 1970 Marcos GT 3,000
> 1960 Corvette 283   2,500
> 
> 
> I can taste a little bit of vomit in my mouth.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Michael Shortt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, bens1 via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> 
>   When I was 17 I had a 69 Z28 Camero
>   I received a number of citations, exhibition
>   of speed, wreckless driving, engaged in a
>   speed contest, speeding-seems to be the
>   common denominator... this all happened
>   in 1 1/2 years and 80,000 miles.. Ole Dad
>   said I think it is about time you sold that car
>   son... went for $1800 dollars... I would have
>   never sold that car but might not be alive today
>   Bob Benson Panteracer
> 
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> Michael L. Shortt
> Savannah, Georgia
> www.michaelshortt.com
> michael at michaelshortt.com
> 912-232-9390
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>   Had to ...but did not have the collection you did...
>   cool cars... but good to know you now have a true
>   classic in the Pantera:)
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: michael <michael at michaelshortt.com>
>   To: RCBSONS1 at aol.com <rcbsons1 at aol.com>
>   Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>   Sent: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 1:23 pm
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
>   So, you going to go there are you.
>   Sold cars
>   1964 XKE Roadster   5,000
>   1973 XKE V12 Roasdster 6,000
>   1973 TR6 3,000
>   1972 Trans Am HD 455  3,200
>   1970 Fiat Dino 10,000
>   1980 911SC Targa 10,000
>   1970 Marcos GT 3,000
>   1960 Corvette 283   2,500
>   I can taste a little bit of vomit in my mouth.
>   Michael Shortt
>   On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, bens1 via DeTomaso
>   <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> 
>        When I was 17 I had a 69 Z28 Camero
>        I received a number of citations, exhibition
>        of speed, wreckless driving, engaged in a
>        speed contest, speeding-seems to be the
>        common denominator... this all happened
>        in 1 1/2 years and 80,000 miles.. Ole Dad
>        said I think it is about time you sold that car
>        son... went for $1800 dollars... I would have
>        never sold that car but might not be alive today
>        Bob Benson Panteracer
>     _______________________________________________
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>   Michael L. Shortt
>   Savannah, Georgia
>   [4]www.michaelshortt.com
>   [5]michael at michaelshortt.com
>   912-232-9390
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:36:18 -0400 (EDT)
> From: rcbsons1 at aol.com
> To: michael at michaelshortt.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
> Message-ID: <8D15E0316408175-B70-B0D9 at webmail-va032.sysops.aol.com>
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> Yes some people think of the girl that got away
> ... I still have mine-37 years now... so I think about that red
> Camero that got me in so much trouble many 
> years back
> 
> I am blessed to have my Pantera and my 
> Firebird-1970 trans am clone with 700hp plus
> but I still often think of the Camero..  thought
> of getting another but it would not be the same
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> To: RCBSONS1 at aol.com <rcbsons1 at aol.com>
> Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 1:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
> 
> 
> So, you going to go there are you.
> 
> 
> Sold cars
> 
> 
> 1964 XKE Roadster   5,000
> 1973 XKE V12 Roasdster 6,000
> 1973 TR6 3,000
> 1972 Trans Am HD 455  3,200
> 1970 Fiat Dino 10,000
> 1980 911SC Targa 10,000
> 1970 Marcos GT 3,000
> 1960 Corvette 283   2,500
> 
> 
> I can taste a little bit of vomit in my mouth.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Michael Shortt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, bens1 via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> 
>   When I was 17 I had a 69 Z28 Camero
>   I received a number of citations, exhibition
>   of speed, wreckless driving, engaged in a
>   speed contest, speeding-seems to be the
>   common denominator... this all happened
>   in 1 1/2 years and 80,000 miles.. Ole Dad
>   said I think it is about time you sold that car
>   son... went for $1800 dollars... I would have
>   never sold that car but might not be alive today
>   Bob Benson Panteracer
> 
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> -- 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Michael L. Shortt
> Savannah, Georgia
> www.michaelshortt.com
> michael at michaelshortt.com
> 912-232-9390
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> -------------- next part --------------
>   Yes some people think of the girl that got away
>   ... I still have mine-37 years now... so I think about that red
>   Camero that got me in so much trouble many
>   years back
>   I am blessed to have my Pantera and my
>   Firebird-1970 trans am clone with 700hp plus
>   but I still often think of the Camero..  thought
>   of getting another but it would not be the same
>   Bob
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: michael <michael at michaelshortt.com>
>   To: RCBSONS1 at aol.com <rcbsons1 at aol.com>
>   Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>   Sent: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 1:23 pm
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
>   So, you going to go there are you.
>   Sold cars
>   1964 XKE Roadster   5,000
>   1973 XKE V12 Roasdster 6,000
>   1973 TR6 3,000
>   1972 Trans Am HD 455  3,200
>   1970 Fiat Dino 10,000
>   1980 911SC Targa 10,000
>   1970 Marcos GT 3,000
>   1960 Corvette 283   2,500
>   I can taste a little bit of vomit in my mouth.
>   Michael Shortt
>   On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, bens1 via DeTomaso
>   <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> 
>        When I was 17 I had a 69 Z28 Camero
>        I received a number of citations, exhibition
>        of speed, wreckless driving, engaged in a
>        speed contest, speeding-seems to be the
>        common denominator... this all happened
>        in 1 1/2 years and 80,000 miles.. Ole Dad
>        said I think it is about time you sold that car
>        son... went for $1800 dollars... I would have
>        never sold that car but might not be alive today
>        Bob Benson Panteracer
>     _______________________________________________
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>   --
>   Michael L. Shortt
>   Savannah, Georgia
>   [4]www.michaelshortt.com
>   [5]michael at michaelshortt.com
>   912-232-9390
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:39:42 +0200
> From: Mikael <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>
> To: Jerry Knotts <knottsj at galstar.com>, detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mike Drew on Jay Leno's Garage?????
> Message-ID: <20140624203942.5927058.46594.7517 at mail.tele.dk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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> Amazing, Jay Leno on the Mike Drew show ;-)
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerry Q10
> ? Original Message ?
> From: Jerry Knotts
> Sent: mandag den 23. juni 2014 21.57
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mike Drew on Jay Leno's Garage?????
> 
> Mike.
> 
> That's neat - great adventure personally and superior stage presence and 
> presentation for the Pantera community and POCA.
> 
> jerry
> 
>> On 6/23/2014 2:06 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
>> In a message dated 6/23/14 7 48 13, michael at michaelshortt.com writes:
>> Great job Mike, so now tell us all what happens next, did you get a
>> private tour of the place, did Jay let you sit in any of his toys?
>>>>> It was a fantastic day. I'd been there before; he gave Lori and me
>> a private 2.5 hour tour of his collection back in December.
>> On the day of the shoot (last month, on the way to the Fun Rally) I got
>> there early and he was a bit late, so I got to spend another hour or so
>> wandering around the shop by myself. The shoot took about two hours,
>> but then he invited me to stay and play cars some more. He did two
>> more shoots with other people, so I just sort of wandered around and
>> watched the process. After they left, the crew, mechanics, Jay and I
>> had lunch in the shop, and then he took me for a ride in his 1925 Doble
>> steam car.
>> That turned into an adventure and a half over the space of the next
>> several hours. I had already Drewsastered his Pantera during the shoot
>> (A/C system let go), and then when we were many miles from the shop in
>> the Doble, it conked out due to a mega water leak. We were able to
>> fill the tank at a convenient fire station (!) and then limped slowly
>> back towards the shop, stopping again in the barrio at a used tire
>> store for more water. Once back in the shop I helped them get it up on
>> the lift to evaluate the problem.
>> A water transfer pump that sends water from the storage tank to the
>> boiler had let go, and water was cascading out of it. While they were
>> under the car checking it out, I backed away to take in the whole
>> scene. My next words were, "Fire fire no shit this car is on fire!"
>> It was completely ablaze under the hood! After a mad scramble, Jay got
>> an air hose, a mechanic got a blow gun for it, the car was lowered
>> (still burning), I popped the hood and they got after it with the air
>> hose, literally blowing the fire out (a process that took longer than
>> you'd expect).
>> Surprisingly it did no damage; it was apparently caused by gasoline
>> fumes spontaneously combusting due to contact with the hot boiler.
>> With steam cars, things like this happen apparently (he told me he has
>> several videos on Youtube of him blowing himself up with steam cars).
>> Eventually we got cleaned up and called it a day--I was there at the
>> shop for about ten hours.
>> One of the best days of my life, and even though he set a record for
>> the first-ever TRIPLE Drewsaster, Jay invited me to come back sometime,
>> as I had mentioned to him that my late father loved Duesenbergs, so he
>> wants to take me for a ride in his SJ as a tribute to him.
>> What a terrific guy! He loves his Pantera, too. If you're in So Cal
>> at a car show, you may well see him with it. He told me yesterday that
>> he bumped into Leon Rower this weekend (whose immaculate, bone-stock
>> blue Pantera wowed the crowd at the Fun Rally at the Saturday car show)
>> and really was impressed with his Pantera too!
>> Oh, and the Doble problem was caused by the water pump failing and
>> hydro-locking. Doble water pumps don't grow on trees (they only made
>> 46 cars and no two were the same) but fortunately he has so much
>> machining capability within his shop that he was able to have a new one
>> made from scratch, and the car is back on the road alreadya|.
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:49:54 -0400 (EDT)
> From: rcbsons1 at aol.com
> To: michael at michaelshortt.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
> Message-ID: <8D15E04FC53037B-B70-B23A at webmail-va032.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> At one time I was considering buying Candy
> and later the Pizza car.. both went to good 
> homes.. I had trouble that they were not street
> legal vehicles
> 
> Bob Benson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> To: RCBSONS1 at aol.com <rcbsons1 at aol.com>
> Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 1:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
> 
> 
> So, you going to go there are you.
> 
> 
> Sold cars
> 
> 
> 1964 XKE Roadster   5,000
> 1973 XKE V12 Roasdster 6,000
> 1973 TR6 3,000
> 1972 Trans Am HD 455  3,200
> 1970 Fiat Dino 10,000
> 1980 911SC Targa 10,000
> 1970 Marcos GT 3,000
> 1960 Corvette 283   2,500
> 
> 
> I can taste a little bit of vomit in my mouth.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Michael Shortt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, bens1 via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> 
>   When I was 17 I had a 69 Z28 Camero
>   I received a number of citations, exhibition
>   of speed, wreckless driving, engaged in a
>   speed contest, speeding-seems to be the
>   common denominator... this all happened
>   in 1 1/2 years and 80,000 miles.. Ole Dad
>   said I think it is about time you sold that car
>   son... went for $1800 dollars... I would have
>   never sold that car but might not be alive today
>   Bob Benson Panteracer
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> 
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> 
> 
> Michael L. Shortt
> Savannah, Georgia
> www.michaelshortt.com
> michael at michaelshortt.com
> 912-232-9390
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>   At one time I was considering buying Candy
>   and later the Pizza car.. both went to good
>   homes.. I had trouble that they were not street
>   legal vehicles
>   Bob Benson
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: michael <michael at michaelshortt.com>
>   To: RCBSONS1 at aol.com <rcbsons1 at aol.com>
>   Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>   Sent: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 1:23 pm
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
>   So, you going to go there are you.
>   Sold cars
>   1964 XKE Roadster   5,000
>   1973 XKE V12 Roasdster 6,000
>   1973 TR6 3,000
>   1972 Trans Am HD 455  3,200
>   1970 Fiat Dino 10,000
>   1980 911SC Targa 10,000
>   1970 Marcos GT 3,000
>   1960 Corvette 283   2,500
>   I can taste a little bit of vomit in my mouth.
>   Michael Shortt
>   On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, bens1 via DeTomaso
>   <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> 
>        When I was 17 I had a 69 Z28 Camero
>        I received a number of citations, exhibition
>        of speed, wreckless driving, engaged in a
>        speed contest, speeding-seems to be the
>        common denominator... this all happened
>        in 1 1/2 years and 80,000 miles.. Ole Dad
>        said I think it is about time you sold that car
>        son... went for $1800 dollars... I would have
>        never sold that car but might not be alive today
>        Bob Benson Panteracer
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>   Savannah, Georgia
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>   [5]michael at michaelshortt.com
>   912-232-9390
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:50:01 +0200
> From: Bjoern Flesland <bflesland at gmail.com>
> To: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, Perry Lindsey <nckzck at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mike Drew on Jay Leno's Garage?????
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> 
> Great job there Mike.
> I really liked it when you mentioned that it took 3 hrs to replace the
> clutch in the parking lot.
> And thanks Perry for giving us the youtube link.
> Cheers Bjoern
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Mikael <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk> wrote:
>> 
>> Amazing, Jay Leno on the Mike Drew show ;-)
>> 
>> Sent from my BlackBerry Q10
>>  Original Message
>> From: Jerry Knotts
>> Sent: mandag den 23. juni 2014 21.57
>> To: detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mike Drew on Jay Leno's Garage?????
>> 
>> Mike.
>> 
>> That's neat - great adventure personally and superior stage presence and
>> presentation for the Pantera community and POCA.
>> 
>> jerry
>> 
>>> On 6/23/2014 2:06 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
>>> In a message dated 6/23/14 7 48 13, michael at michaelshortt.com writes:
>>> Great job Mike, so now tell us all what happens next, did you get a
>>> private tour of the place, did Jay let you sit in any of his toys?
>>>>>> It was a fantastic day. I'd been there before; he gave Lori and me
>>> a private 2.5 hour tour of his collection back in December.
>>> On the day of the shoot (last month, on the way to the Fun Rally) I got
>>> there early and he was a bit late, so I got to spend another hour or so
>>> wandering around the shop by myself. The shoot took about two hours,
>>> but then he invited me to stay and play cars some more. He did two
>>> more shoots with other people, so I just sort of wandered around and
>>> watched the process. After they left, the crew, mechanics, Jay and I
>>> had lunch in the shop, and then he took me for a ride in his 1925 Doble
>>> steam car.
>>> That turned into an adventure and a half over the space of the next
>>> several hours. I had already Drewsastered his Pantera during the shoot
>>> (A/C system let go), and then when we were many miles from the shop in
>>> the Doble, it conked out due to a mega water leak. We were able to
>>> fill the tank at a convenient fire station (!) and then limped slowly
>>> back towards the shop, stopping again in the barrio at a used tire
>>> store for more water. Once back in the shop I helped them get it up on
>>> the lift to evaluate the problem.
>>> A water transfer pump that sends water from the storage tank to the
>>> boiler had let go, and water was cascading out of it. While they were
>>> under the car checking it out, I backed away to take in the whole
>>> scene. My next words were, "Fire fire no shit this car is on fire!"
>>> It was completely ablaze under the hood! After a mad scramble, Jay got
>>> an air hose, a mechanic got a blow gun for it, the car was lowered
>>> (still burning), I popped the hood and they got after it with the air
>>> hose, literally blowing the fire out (a process that took longer than
>>> you'd expect).
>>> Surprisingly it did no damage; it was apparently caused by gasoline
>>> fumes spontaneously combusting due to contact with the hot boiler.
>>> With steam cars, things like this happen apparently (he told me he has
>>> several videos on Youtube of him blowing himself up with steam cars).
>>> Eventually we got cleaned up and called it a day--I was there at the
>>> shop for about ten hours.
>>> One of the best days of my life, and even though he set a record for
>>> the first-ever TRIPLE Drewsaster, Jay invited me to come back sometime,
>>> as I had mentioned to him that my late father loved Duesenbergs, so he
>>> wants to take me for a ride in his SJ as a tribute to him.
>>> What a terrific guy! He loves his Pantera, too. If you're in So Cal
>>> at a car show, you may well see him with it. He told me yesterday that
>>> he bumped into Leon Rower this weekend (whose immaculate, bone-stock
>>> blue Pantera wowed the crowd at the Fun Rally at the Saturday car show)
>>> and really was impressed with his Pantera too!
>>> Oh, and the Doble problem was caused by the water pump failing and
>>> hydro-locking. Doble water pumps don't grow on trees (they only made
>>> 46 cars and no two were the same) but fortunately he has so much
>>> machining capability within his shop that he was able to have a new one
>>> made from scratch, and the car is back on the road alreadya|.
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>   Great job there Mike.A
>   I really liked it when you mentioned that it took 3 hrs to replace the
>   clutch in the parking lot.
>   And thanks Perry for giving us the youtube link.
>   Cheers Bjoern
> 
>   On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Mikael <[1]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>
>   wrote:
> 
>     Amazing, Jay Leno on the Mike Drew show ;-)
>     Sent from my BlackBerry Q10
>     A  Original Message A
>     From: Jerry Knotts
>     Sent: mandag den 23. juni 2014 21.57
>     To: [2]detomaso at poca.com
> 
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mike Drew on Jay Leno's Garage?????
> 
>     Mike.
>     That's neat - great adventure personally and superior stage presence
>     and
>     presentation for the Pantera community and POCA.
>     jerry
> 
>>   On 6/23/2014 2:06 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
>> In a message dated 6/23/14 7 48 13, [3]michael at michaelshortt.com
>   writes:
>> Great job Mike, so now tell us all what happens next, did you get a
>> private tour of the place, did Jay let you sit in any of his toys?
>>>>> It was a fantastic day. I'd been there before; he gave Lori and me
>> a private 2.5 hour tour of his collection back in December.
>> On the day of the shoot (last month, on the way to the Fun Rally) I
>   got
>> there early and he was a bit late, so I got to spend another hour or
>   so
>> wandering around the shop by myself. The shoot took about two hours,
>> but then he invited me to stay and play cars some more. He did two
>> more shoots with other people, so I just sort of wandered around and
>> watched the process. After they left, the crew, mechanics, Jay and I
>> had lunch in the shop, and then he took me for a ride in his 1925
>   Doble
>> steam car.
>> That turned into an adventure and a half over the space of the next
>> several hours. I had already Drewsastered his Pantera during the
>   shoot
>> (A/C system let go), and then when we were many miles from the shop
>   in
>> the Doble, it conked out due to a mega water leak. We were able to
>> fill the tank at a convenient fire station (!) and then limped slowly
>> back towards the shop, stopping again in the barrio at a used tire
>> store for more water. Once back in the shop I helped them get it up
>   on
>> the lift to evaluate the problem.
>> A water transfer pump that sends water from the storage tank to the
>> boiler had let go, and water was cascading out of it. While they were
>> under the car checking it out, I backed away to take in the whole
>> scene. My next words were, "Fire fire no shit this car is on fire!"
>> It was completely ablaze under the hood! After a mad scramble, Jay
>   got
>> an air hose, a mechanic got a blow gun for it, the car was lowered
>> (still burning), I popped the hood and they got after it with the air
>> hose, literally blowing the fire out (a process that took longer than
>> you'd expect).
>> Surprisingly it did no damage; it was apparently caused by gasoline
>> fumes spontaneously combusting due to contact with the hot boiler.
>> With steam cars, things like this happen apparently (he told me he
>   has
>> several videos on Youtube of him blowing himself up with steam cars).
>> Eventually we got cleaned up and called it a day--I was there at the
>> shop for about ten hours.
>> One of the best days of my life, and even though he set a record for
>> the first-ever TRIPLE Drewsaster, Jay invited me to come back
>   sometime,
>> as I had mentioned to him that my late father loved Duesenbergs, so
>   he
>> wants to take me for a ride in his SJ as a tribute to him.
>> What a terrific guy! He loves his Pantera, too. If you're in So Cal
>> at a car show, you may well see him with it. He told me yesterday
>   that
>> he bumped into Leon Rower this weekend (whose immaculate, bone-stock
>> blue Pantera wowed the crowd at the Fun Rally at the Saturday car
>   show)
>> and really was impressed with his Pantera too!
>> Oh, and the Doble problem was caused by the water pump failing and
>> hydro-locking. Doble water pumps don't grow on trees (they only made
>> 46 cars and no two were the same) but fortunately he has so much
>> machining capability within his shop that he was able to have a new
>   one
>> made from scratch, and the car is back on the road alreadya|.
> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>   2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>   3. mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com
>   4. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   5. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 00:22:44 +0000
> From: Bill Lewis <lotus0005 at hotmail.com>
> To: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
> Message-ID: <BAY173-W475C78C8914AD37F80C42DBB190 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> We can all sit and cry in our beer about cars missed, cars sold, etc.  My biggest story is back in my senior year in college, I bought two 1953 Corvettes, and knew where a third was about 5 miles from me.  Sold both of them for $1500.00 - but used the money to start our first business with.  They are now worth over $200,000.00 each.  ---BILL ( stop me if you've heard this story) Lewis
> 
> To: michael at michaelshortt.com
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:49:54 -0400
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
> From: detomaso at poca.com
> 
> At one time I was considering buying Candy
> and later the Pizza car.. both went to good 
> homes.. I had trouble that they were not street
> legal vehicles
> 
> Bob Benson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> To: RCBSONS1 at aol.com <rcbsons1 at aol.com>
> Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 1:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
> 
> 
> So, you going to go there are you.
> 
> 
> Sold cars
> 
> 
> 1964 XKE Roadster   5,000
> 1973 XKE V12 Roasdster 6,000
> 1973 TR6 3,000
> 1972 Trans Am HD 455  3,200
> 1970 Fiat Dino 10,000
> 1980 911SC Targa 10,000
> 1970 Marcos GT 3,000
> 1960 Corvette 283   2,500
> 
> 
> I can taste a little bit of vomit in my mouth.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Michael Shortt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, bens1 via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> 
>   When I was 17 I had a 69 Z28 Camero
>   I received a number of citations, exhibition
>   of speed, wreckless driving, engaged in a
>   speed contest, speeding-seems to be the
>   common denominator... this all happened
>   in 1 1/2 years and 80,000 miles.. Ole Dad
>   said I think it is about time you sold that car
>   son... went for $1800 dollars... I would have
>   never sold that car but might not be alive today
>   Bob Benson Panteracer
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Michael L. Shortt
> Savannah, Georgia
> www.michaelshortt.com
> michael at michaelshortt.com
> 912-232-9390
> 
> 
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> -------------- next part --------------
>   We can all sit and cry in our beer about cars missed, cars sold, etc.
>   My biggest story is back in my senior year in college, I bought two
>   1953 Corvettes, and knew where a third was about 5 miles from me.  Sold
>   both of them for $1500.00 - but used the money to start our first
>   business with.  They are now worth over $200,000.00 each.  ---BILL (
>   stop me if you've heard this story) Lewis
>   To: michael at michaelshortt.com
>   Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:49:54 -0400
>   CC: detomaso at poca.com
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
>   From: detomaso at poca.com
> At one time I was considering buying Candy
> and later the Pizza car.. both went to good
> homes.. I had trouble that they were not street
> legal vehicles
> 
> Bob Benson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> To: RCBSONS1 at aol.com <rcbsons1 at aol.com>
> Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 1:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
> 
> 
> So, you going to go there are you.
> 
> 
> Sold cars
> 
> 
> 1964 XKE Roadster   5,000
> 1973 XKE V12 Roasdster 6,000
> 1973 TR6 3,000
> 1972 Trans Am HD 455  3,200
> 1970 Fiat Dino 10,000
> 1980 911SC Targa 10,000
> 1970 Marcos GT 3,000
> 1960 Corvette 283   2,500
> 
> 
> I can taste a little bit of vomit in my mouth.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Michael Shortt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 4:13 PM, bens1 via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> 
>   When I was 17 I had a 69 Z28 Camero
>   I received a number of citations, exhibition
>   of speed, wreckless driving, engaged in a
>   speed contest, speeding-seems to be the
>   common denominator... this all happened
>   in 1 1/2 years and 80,000 miles.. Ole Dad
>   said I think it is about time you sold that car
>   son... went for $1800 dollars... I would have
>   never sold that car but might not be alive today
>   Bob Benson Panteracer
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> 
> DeTomaso mailing list
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Michael L. Shortt
> Savannah, Georgia
> www.michaelshortt.com
> michael at michaelshortt.com
> 912-232-9390
> 
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 17:58:19 -0700
> From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Not a story of a cheap car now worth a mint, but fun none the less...
> ?
> I was in my early 20's living in Santa Barbara?and had been lusting after a maroon 73 DeTomaso Pantera at local specialty dealer's lot. I had?stopped to look at it a few times, but couldn't quite afford it - remember, I was in my early 20's (and saving to buy my first house).? It turned out that a business associate/customer of mine was a fellow gearhead, and a partner in the dealership. He told me all about the car, what they'd done to it, how long they'd had it, etc, and finally after another couple months of it languishing on their lot made me a lowball offer to sell it to me.? I almost pulled the trigger, but decided I needed to buy a house with a garage first!? 13 years later, I got my Pantera!? And I like the one I have now better than the one I passed on.
> ?
> ?
> Now, here are a few of the one's I wish didn't get away...
> ?
> 68 Vette (L88) - $5000
> T-tops, 427, 4 speed, silver, beautiful car. Shopping for my first car and didn't have quite enough money; and my dad refused to help me "buy a car that I'd kill myself in."
> ?
> 67 Austin Healey Mk.?III - $5500
> Beautifully restored and ran perfectly. Agreed to purchase terms, then seller stalled me each time I tried to arrange pickup, and sold it out from under me to another buyer for a few dollars more. Ironically, a few years later I'm going to a new GF's house for the 4th of July and as we pull in to the neighborhood where her parents lived I tell her about this a$$hole who sold this car out from under me; turns out to be her dad.
> ?
> 1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite - $1500
> Beautifully restored and correct, but just not enough driving excitement. Almost bought it because it was so cheap. Unfortunately, I bought a Porsche 924 instead. D'oh!
> ?
> 1964 Ferrari 330 GT - $12000
> Wish I had this one.? The twin headlights are a polarizing feature and it's admittedly not the best looking of the vintage, but still a cool car!
> -------------- next part --------------
>   Not a story of a cheap car now worth a mint, but fun none the less...
> 
>   I was in my early 20's living in Santa Barbara and had been lusting
>   after a maroon 73 DeTomaso Pantera at local specialty dealer's lot. I
>   had stopped to look at it a few times, but couldn't quite afford it -
>   remember, I was in my early 20's (and saving to buy my first house).
>   It turned out that a business associate/customer of mine was a fellow
>   gearhead, and a partner in the dealership. He told me all about the
>   car, what they'd done to it, how long they'd had it, etc, and finally
>   after another couple months of it languishing on their lot made me a
>   lowball offer to sell it to me.  I almost pulled the trigger, but
>   decided I needed to buy a house with a garage first!  13 years later, I
>   got my Pantera!  And I like the one I have now better than the one I
>   passed on.
> 
> 
>   Now, here are a few of the one's I wish didn't get away...
> 
>   68 Vette (L88) - $5000
>   T-tops, 427, 4 speed, silver, beautiful car. Shopping for my first car
>   and didn't have quite enough money; and my dad refused to help me "buy
>   a car that I'd kill myself in."
> 
>   67 Austin Healey Mk. III - $5500
>   Beautifully restored and ran perfectly. Agreed to purchase terms, then
>   seller stalled me each time I tried to arrange pickup, and sold it out
>   from under me to another buyer for a few dollars more. Ironically, a
>   few years later I'm going to a new GF's house for the 4th of July and
>   as we pull in to the neighborhood where her parents lived I tell her
>   about this a$$hole who sold this car out from under me; turns out to be
>   her dad.
> 
>   1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite - $1500
>   Beautifully restored and correct, but just not enough driving
>   excitement. Almost bought it because it was so cheap. Unfortunately, I
>   bought a Porsche 924 instead. D'oh!
> 
>   1964 Ferrari 330 GT - $12000
>   Wish I had this one.  The twin headlights are a polarizing feature and
>   it's admittedly not the best looking of the vintage, but still a cool
>   car!
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:31:53 -0500
> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> 
>> 1964 Ferrari 330 GT
> 
> 
> Wasn't that a Tom Tjaarda design?
> -------------- next part --------------
>   On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso
>   <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> 
>     1964 Ferrari 330 GT
> 
>   Wasn't that a Tom Tjaarda design?
> 
> References
> 
>   1. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 08:00:23 -0400
> From: LS <lashdeep at yahoo.com>
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>,    Garth Rodericks
>    <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
> Message-ID: <ADDECFB7-7A6E-4408-891E-B40DBB61D0F9 at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Yes and I love it especially with the bumpers removed...
> 
> LS
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2014, at 22:31, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso
>>  <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>> 
>>    1964 Ferrari 330 GT
>> 
>>  Wasn't that a Tom Tjaarda design?
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>  1. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 08:02:01 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: bill gaino <gaino at earthlink.net>
> To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>,    DeTomaso Mail List
>    <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
> Message-ID:
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>    
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> 
> When I was 17-17 I could not convince daddy to buy me a 70 Jag XKE for 2500$  He insisted that I save my own money and he would match what I saved. When we got to 700$ My first car was a 66 Mustang Convertable. It burned 7 quarts of oil driving across NC. Also the first motor I rebuilt!
> Bill 1362
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Sent: Jun 24, 2014 8:58 PM
>> To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Car that got away
>> 
>>  Not a story of a cheap car now worth a mint, but fun none the less...
>> 
>>  I was in my early 20's living in Santa Barbara and had been lusting
>>  after a maroon 73 DeTomaso Pantera at local specialty dealer's lot. I
>>  had stopped to look at it a few times, but couldn't quite afford it -
>>  remember, I was in my early 20's (and saving to buy my first house).
>>  It turned out that a business associate/customer of mine was a fellow
>>  gearhead, and a partner in the dealership. He told me all about the
>>  car, what they'd done to it, how long they'd had it, etc, and finally
>>  after another couple months of it languishing on their lot made me a
>>  lowball offer to sell it to me.  I almost pulled the trigger, but
>>  decided I needed to buy a house with a garage first!  13 years later, I
>>  got my Pantera!  And I like the one I have now better than the one I
>>  passed on.
>> 
>> 
>>  Now, here are a few of the one's I wish didn't get away...
>> 
>>  68 Vette (L88) - $5000
>>  T-tops, 427, 4 speed, silver, beautiful car. Shopping for my first car
>>  and didn't have quite enough money; and my dad refused to help me "buy
>>  a car that I'd kill myself in."
>> 
>>  67 Austin Healey Mk. III - $5500
>>  Beautifully restored and ran perfectly. Agreed to purchase terms, then
>>  seller stalled me each time I tried to arrange pickup, and sold it out
>>  from under me to another buyer for a few dollars more. Ironically, a
>>  few years later I'm going to a new GF's house for the 4th of July and
>>  as we pull in to the neighborhood where her parents lived I tell her
>>  about this a$$hole who sold this car out from under me; turns out to be
>>  her dad.
>> 
>>  1960 Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite - $1500
>>  Beautifully restored and correct, but just not enough driving
>>  excitement. Almost bought it because it was so cheap. Unfortunately, I
>>  bought a Porsche 924 instead. D'oh!
>> 
>>  1964 Ferrari 330 GT - $12000
>>  Wish I had this one.  The twin headlights are a polarizing feature and
>>  it's admittedly not the best looking of the vintage, but still a cool
>>  car!
> 
> 
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:22:14 -0700
> From: mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com>
> To: Detomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Wheel load rating
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> What is the wheel load rating for Pantera wheels?
> Mark
> -------------- next part --------------
>   What is the wheel load rating for Pantera wheels?
>   Mark
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:36:10 -0400
> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> To: mark skwarek <ehpantera at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Detomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Wheel load rating
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Not super sure, but seems like I remember seeing, reading, etc. something
> like 780 KG, stronger that it needs to be by 100%, if true.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 1:22 PM, mark skwarek via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> 
>>   What is the wheel load rating for Pantera wheels?
>>   Mark
>> 
>> 
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> Michael L. Shortt
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> michael at michaelshortt.com
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>   Not super sure, but seems like I remember seeing, reading, etc.
>   something like 780 KG, stronger that it needs to be by 100%, if true.
>   Michael
> 
>   On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 1:22 PM, mark skwarek via DeTomaso
>   <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> 
>     A  A What is the wheel load rating for Pantera wheels?
>     A  A Mark
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