[DeTomaso] Steering wheels

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Sat Jun 21 23:09:09 EDT 2014


Not that it matters,  but I would imagine Momo wheels cost more than Lecarra, so in that sense it could be seen as an upgrade.  And the fact that my Lecarra wheel is covered with vinyl while the Momo Prototipo wheel in my Dino is leather would support that.  (Although the fact that there are few Dinos out there with their non-Prototipo Momos still in place because the factory supplied item usually broke would argue against the quality issue. :-)

If Ford hadn't put those stupid Mercury wheels on the cars they probably would have had Momo on US cars too.
 
Jim Oddie
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave <dave at damardirect.com>
To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>; Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: MikeLDrew at aol.com <mikeldrew at aol.com>; De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 21, 2014 7:59 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Steering wheels




-----Original Message-----
From: Boyd Casey [mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 8:17 PM
To: Julian Kift
Cc: MikeLDrew at aol.com; De Tomaso List
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Steering wheels

I asked what made a "Momo" wheel an "upgrade" , Mike D. said ">>>There's nothing 
wrong with the Lecarra wheels, in terms of their quality.  I object slightly to 
the rather huge center hub.  But the Momo prototipo was the factory wheel fitted 
to the Euro GTS, and standard equipment on the GT5, GT5-S, as well as (smaller 
version) race cars like Porsche 917 etc.  So it has heritage and legacy behind 
it.

Plus, it looks much better. :>)"

It was in reference to his comment that "it looked much better" that I responded 
to with the "beauty is in the eye of the beholder " comment.
 I looked up a Baskin Robbins link on google and their web sight said "They 
started out in separate ventures at the advice of Irv’s father. In 1945, Irv 
opened Snowbird Ice Cream in Glendale, California. His store featured
21 flavors and emphasized high-quality ice cream sold in a fun, personalized 
atmosphere" So my info may be out of date but the point I was trying to make is 
the same. Because a person prefers the looks of a particular wheel it doesn't 
qualify it as an "upgrade" especially since it is standard equipment on many 
Pantera models. I was attempting to illustrate that taste is subjective. But 
especially in the case of Mike drew , who so many people hold up as the 
consummate authority on Panteras  . If Mike says a MOMO wheel is an "upgrade" it 
should be based on some factor that makes the Momo  superior to other wheels , 
not just because Col. Drew "likes the way they look" Some taller people who like 
the wheel closer to them prefer the longer hub of the lecarra because it brings 
the wheel closer to them even though  their long legs force them to drive with 
the back of the seat all the way at the bulk head. If someone is supposed to be 
an "authority on things "Pantera" or anything else for that matter , I believe 
they should differentiate between things hat they like and things they state as 
categorically factual. It's the difference between an editorial and reporting 
the news. One is opinion and one is (supposed to
be) facts. Just my "Opinion" (which coincidentally  corresponds with the
facts) ;>)

Boyd


On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Where the hell is this conversation going?
>
> Anything on these forums is a personal opinion. Yes beauty is in the 
> eye of the beer holder, but there still some chicks (and guys) that 
> are destined to go home alone every night!
>
> Baskin Robbins is a totally different subject, now you are talking 
> taste rather than visual beauty , you can put a paper bag over an ugly 
> chick
> (dude) and still experience the same taste :>)
>
> Julian
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:45:17 -0400
> From: boyd411 at gmail.com
> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Steering wheels
>
> Once more I must point out that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" 
> . So just because "you" think it is more beautiful doesn't make it so. 
> As an example this Ethiopian Honey is considered to be "hot stuff" and 
> Mike after a long deployment in Eithiopia might come home with the local 
beauty queen.
>  I can imagine the looks on his friends faces when he deplaned at  
> with his new beauty queen prize ( this is of course fiction 
> considering Mike has a beautiful american wife) but hypothetically 
> imagine their surprise when he deplaned with  Miss Addis Ababa ( 
> Hypothetically the new Mrs. Drew ) Miss Eithiopia!. Just because you 
> think something is beautiful or "better doesn't make it so!. That's why Baskin 
Robbins has 21 flavors!
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 2:20 PM, <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > In a message dated 6/19/14 18 45 8, boyd411 at gmail.com writes:
> >
> >
> > I know Momo and Nardo wheels are popular , but what exactly makes a "Momo"
> > an "upgrade" from the rare and no longer available "Lecarra"?
> >
> >
> > >>>There's nothing wrong with the Lecarra wheels, in terms of their
> > quality.  I object slightly to the rather huge center hub.  But the 
> > Momo prototipo was the factory wheel fitted to the Euro GTS, and 
> > standard equipment on the GT5, GT5-S, as well as (smaller version) 
> > race cars like Porsche 917 etc.  So it has heritage and legacy behind it.
> >
> > Plus, it looks much better. :>)
> >
> > Mike
>
>
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   Not that it matters,  but I would imagine Momo wheels cost more than
   Lecarra, so in that sense it could be seen as an upgrade.  And the fact
   that my Lecarra wheel is covered with vinyl while the Momo Prototipo
   wheel in my Dino is leather would support that.  (Although the fact
   that there are few Dinos out there with their non-Prototipo Momos still
   in place because the factory supplied item usually broke would argue
   against the quality issue. :-)



   If Ford hadn't put those stupid Mercury wheels on the cars they
   probably would have had Momo on US cars too.



   Jim Oddie









   -----Original Message-----
   From: Dave <dave at damardirect.com>
   To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>; Julian Kift
   <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   Cc: MikeLDrew at aol.com <mikeldrew at aol.com>; De Tomaso List
   <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Sat, Jun 21, 2014 7:59 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Steering wheels

-----Original Message-----
From: Boyd Casey [[1]mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 8:17 PM
To: Julian Kift
Cc: [2]MikeLDrew at aol.com; De Tomaso List
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Steering wheels

I asked what made a "Momo" wheel an "upgrade" , Mike D. said ">>>There's nothing

wrong with the Lecarra wheels, in terms of their quality.  I object slightly to
the rather huge center hub.  But the Momo prototipo was the factory wheel fitted

to the Euro GTS, and standard equipment on the GT5, GT5-S, as well as (smaller
version) race cars like Porsche 917 etc.  So it has heritage and legacy behind
it.

Plus, it looks much better. :>)"

It was in reference to his comment that "it looked much better" that I responded

to with the "beauty is in the eye of the beholder " comment.
 I looked up a Baskin Robbins link on google and their web sight said "They
started out in separate ventures at the advice of Irvas father. In 1945, Irv
opened Snowbird Ice Cream in Glendale, California. His store featured
21 flavors and emphasized high-quality ice cream sold in a fun, personalized
atmosphere" So my info may be out of date but the point I was trying to make is
the same. Because a person prefers the looks of a particular wheel it doesn't
qualify it as an "upgrade" especially since it is standard equipment on many
Pantera models. I was attempting to illustrate that taste is subjective. But
especially in the case of Mike drew , who so many people hold up as the
consummate authority on Panteras  . If Mike says a MOMO wheel is an "upgrade" it

should be based on some factor that makes the Momo  superior to other wheels ,
not just because Col. Drew "likes the way they look" Some taller people who like

the wheel closer to them prefer the longer hub of the lecarra because it brings
the wheel closer to them even though  their long legs force them to drive with
the back of the seat all the way at the bulk head. If someone is supposed to be
an "authority on things "Pantera" or anything else for that matter , I believe
they should differentiate between things hat they like and things they state as
categorically factual. It's the difference between an editorial and reporting
the news. One is opinion and one is (supposed to
be) facts. Just my "Opinion" (which coincidentally  corresponds with the
facts) ;>)

Boyd


On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Julian Kift <[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Where the hell is this conversation going?
>
> Anything on these forums is a personal opinion. Yes beauty is in the
> eye of the beer holder, but there still some chicks (and guys) that
> are destined to go home alone every night!
>
> Baskin Robbins is a totally different subject, now you are talking
> taste rather than visual beauty , you can put a paper bag over an ugly
> chick
> (dude) and still experience the same taste :>)
>
> Julian
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:45:17 -0400
> From: [4]boyd411 at gmail.com
> To: [5]MikeLDrew at aol.com
> CC: [6]detomaso at poca.com
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Steering wheels
>
> Once more I must point out that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"
> . So just because "you" think it is more beautiful doesn't make it so.
> As an example this Ethiopian Honey is considered to be "hot stuff" and
> Mike after a long deployment in Eithiopia might come home with the local
beauty queen.
>  I can imagine the looks on his friends faces when he deplaned at
> with his new beauty queen prize ( this is of course fiction
> considering Mike has a beautiful american wife) but hypothetically
> imagine their surprise when he deplaned with  Miss Addis Ababa (
> Hypothetically the new Mrs. Drew ) Miss Eithiopia!. Just because you
> think something is beautiful or "better doesn't make it so!. That's why Baskin

Robbins has 21 flavors!
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 2:20 PM, <[7]MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > In a message dated 6/19/14 18 45 8, [8]boyd411 at gmail.com writes:
> >
> >
> > I know Momo and Nardo wheels are popular , but what exactly makes a "Momo"
> > an "upgrade" from the rare and no longer available "Lecarra"?
> >
> >
> > >>>There's nothing wrong with the Lecarra wheels, in terms of their
> > quality.  I object slightly to the rather huge center hub.  But the
> > Momo prototipo was the factory wheel fitted to the Euro GTS, and
> > standard equipment on the GT5, GT5-S, as well as (smaller version)
> > race cars like Porsche 917 etc.  So it has heritage and legacy behind it.
> >
> > Plus, it looks much better. :>)
> >
> > Mike
>
>
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