[DeTomaso] NPC - listmanager update
michael at michaelshortt.com
michael at michaelshortt.com
Tue Jun 17 07:24:50 EDT 2014
Seems to have helped, first Mike Drew inclusions in over a month(s) that
didn't go directly to spam.
Michael Shortt
On Jun 17, 2014 5:04 AM, "LS via DeTomaso" <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> I hope these recent changes will fix the problems I have been noticing.
>
> Thanks for the effort.
>
> LS
>
> > On Jun 17, 2014, at 1:14, Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso <
> detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> >
> > There is one other method available for mitigating the DMARC problem,
> > but it involves wrapping the originators email -inside- another email.
> > It's like a mini-archive of one email every time an email is processed.
> > This would remove the attachment and HTML capabilities (which on their
> > own create some problems).
> >
> > So we could try that and see what happens too. I'd recommend we go with
> > the way it is right now for one day. Then, tomorrow night I make that
> > one change and we let it go a day and see if it's better or worse and
> > keep the "better" setting. I'm not against making controlled changes
> > like this and having the members evaluate and provide feedback. But in
> > the end, it's not perfect all the way around, we'll have to make due
> > with what we can, which might not be the "best" anyone would like to see.
> >
> > Asa Jay
> >
> > Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> > & Shelley Marie
> > Spokane, WA
> > ******************************
> > http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> > http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> > http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
> >
> >
> >> On 6/16/2014 10:06 PM, Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso wrote:
> >> Unfortunately, that's part of the fix. There are some things that will
> >> take getting used to.
> >>
> >> On this particular message however, when I hit reply, the email is
> >> composed to -you-. When I hit reply to List, it's composed for
> >> detomaso at poca.com. Some messages that are replies with both your email
> >> and the list email, might not deliver the copy from the listserver.
> >> There is a setting to turn off duplicates. So if the software sees you
> >> were a recipient called out -outside- the detomaso email address, it
> >> might not send you one.
> >>
> >> If you get one of those you probably only have the options to reply and
> >> reply all, which is different than reply list.
> >>
> >> The other problem might end up being in the "who wrote" part of a
> >> reply. I'm noticing sometimes it has just detomaso at poca, and other
> >> times it has the originator "via" DeTomaso, like the text below.
> >>
> >> I don't know that anything can be done to fix that.
> >> Asa Jay
> >>
> >> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> >> & Shelley Marie
> >> Spokane, WA
> >> ******************************
> >> http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> >> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> >> http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 6/16/2014 9:47 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
> >>> In a message dated 6/16/14 21 30 43, detomaso at poca.com writes:
> >>>
> >>> The whole idea is that you SHOULD begin seeing those messages from
> >>> other
> >>> AOL and Yahoo members now. If not, then the fixes put in place by
> >>> the
> >>> Mailman developers aren't working as designed.
> >>>
> >>>>>> This fix has apparently worked BUT it has introduced a new problem.
> >>> Previously, all messages from the list showed the sender's actual
> >>> e-mail address in the 'from' line, so even if they failed to sign it
> >>> properly, you knew who it was from. But now, ALL messages are
> showing
> >>> as coming from the same, single user: detomaso at poca.com.
> >>> So, if somebody is lacking in netiquette, and sends a message without
> >>> specifically identifying who he or she is, there's no way to tell.
> >>> Is there a toggle you can select to display the sender's e-mail
> address
> >>> instead of the forum e-mail address?
> >>> Mike (Drew)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>>
> >>> DeTomaso mailing list
> >>> DeTomaso at poca.com
> >>> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----
> >>> No virus found in this message.
> >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >>> Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3955/7184 - Release Date: 06/16/14
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >>
> >> DeTomaso mailing list
> >> DeTomaso at poca.com
> >> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >>
> >>
> >> -----
> >> No virus found in this message.
> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >> Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3955/7184 - Release Date: 06/16/14
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
> >
> > DeTomaso mailing list
> > DeTomaso at poca.com
> > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>
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> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
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Seems to have helped, first Mike Drew inclusions in over a month(s)
that didn't go directly to spam.
Michael Shortt
On Jun 17, 2014 5:04 AM, "LS via DeTomaso" <[1]detomaso at poca.com>
wrote:
I hope these recent changes will fix the problems I have been
noticing.
Thanks for the effort.
LS
> On Jun 17, 2014, at 1:14, Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
<[2]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>
> There is one other method available for mitigating the DMARC
problem,
> but it involves wrapping the originators email -inside- another
email.
> It's like a mini-archive of one email every time an email is
processed.
> This would remove the attachment and HTML capabilities (which on
their
> own create some problems).
>
> So we could try that and see what happens too. A I'd recommend we
go with
> the way it is right now for one day. A Then, tomorrow night I make
that
> one change and we let it go a day and see if it's better or worse
and
> keep the "better" setting. A I'm not against making controlled
changes
> like this and having the members evaluate and provide feedback.
A But in
> the end, it's not perfect all the way around, we'll have to make
due
> with what we can, which might not be the "best" anyone would like
to see.
>
> Asa A Jay
>
> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
> & Shelley Marie
> Spokane, WA
> ******************************
> [3]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
> [4]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
> [5]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>
>
>> On 6/16/2014 10:06 PM, Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso wrote:
>> Unfortunately, that's part of the fix. A There are some things
that will
>> take getting used to.
>>
>> On this particular message however, when I hit reply, the email
is
>> composed to -you-. A When I hit reply to List, it's composed for
>> [6]detomaso at poca.com. A Some messages that are replies with both
your email
>> and the list email, might not deliver the copy from the
listserver.
>> There is a setting to turn off duplicates. A So if the software
sees you
>> were a recipient called out -outside- the detomaso email address,
it
>> might not send you one.
>>
>> If you get one of those you probably only have the options to
reply and
>> reply all, which is different than reply list.
>>
>> The other problem might end up being in the "who wrote" part of a
>> reply. A I'm noticing sometimes it has just detomaso at poca, and
other
>> times it has the originator "via" DeTomaso, like the text below.
>>
>> I don't know that anything can be done to fix that.
>> Asa A Jay
>>
>> Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
>> & Shelley Marie
>> Spokane, WA
>> ******************************
>> [7]http://www.racingagainstautism.com
>> [8]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>> [9]http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
>>
>>
>>> On 6/16/2014 9:47 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso wrote:
>>> A In a message dated 6/16/14 21 30 43, [10]detomaso at poca.com
writes:
>>>
>>> A A The whole idea is that you SHOULD begin seeing those
messages from
>>> A A other
>>> A A AOL and Yahoo members now. A If not, then the fixes put in
place by
>>> A A the
>>> A A Mailman developers aren't working as designed.
>>>
>>>>>> This fix has apparently worked BUT it has introduced a new
problem.
>>> A Previously, all messages from the list showed the sender's
actual
>>> A e-mail address in the 'from' line, so even if they failed to
sign it
>>> A properly, you knew who it was from. A But now, ALL messages
are showing
>>> A as coming from the same, single user:
A [11]detomaso at poca.com.
>>> A So, if somebody is lacking in netiquette, and sends a message
without
>>> A specifically identifying who he or she is, there's no way to
tell.
>>> A Is there a toggle you can select to display the sender's
e-mail address
>>> A instead of the forum e-mail address?
>>> A Mike (Drew)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>>>
>>> DeTomaso mailing list
>>> [12]DeTomaso at poca.com
>>> [13]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> No virus found in this message.
>>> Checked by AVG - [14]www.avg.com
>>> Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3955/7184 - Release Date:
06/16/14
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>>
>> DeTomaso mailing list
>> [15]DeTomaso at poca.com
>> [16]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>
>>
>> -----
>> No virus found in this message.
>> Checked by AVG - [17]www.avg.com
>> Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3955/7184 - Release Date:
06/16/14
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>
> DeTomaso mailing list
> [18]DeTomaso at poca.com
> [19]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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References
1. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
3. http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
4. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
5. http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
7. http://www.racingagainstautism.com/
8. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
9. http://facebook.com/racingagainstautism
10. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
11. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
12. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
13. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
14. http://www.avg.com/
15. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
16. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
17. http://www.avg.com/
18. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
19. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
20. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
21. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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