[DeTomaso] Thermostat restrictor plate 351 C

Tue Jun 10 13:36:14 EDT 2014

Hey! I did put it in quotes!
:-)

It froze three times last winter at my place... My palm trees suffered....
sniff sniff

On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Bill Moore <bill at incendium.com> wrote:

> "WINTER" - Houston, really ?
>
>
> Cheers:
>
> Please use my bill at incendium.com email address in all messages.
>
> Bill Moore
> Incendium Supply Ltd.
> Suite 416, #305-4625 Varsity Drive N.W.
> Calgary, AB T3A 0Z9
> 403.202.0055
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Kirby
> Schrader
> Sent: June-10-14 11:26 AM
> To: Larry Finch
> Cc: 576103 .; Panteras
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Thermostat restrictor plate 351 C
>
> I was just typing up my reply when yours arrived, Larry.
> :-)
>
> I agree. I ran my Cleveland with a non-Cleveland ('Chevy' style)
> thermostat for years with a block off plate that had a really small hole
> just to get rid of the air.
> I drove my car as a daily driver for 6 years to work and back in Houston
> 'winters' and summers.
> The only cooling problem I ever had was the radiator/surge tank cap
> burping coolant when I backed off the throttle at 7000rpm at the track.
> Even with a 24psi cap, it burped.
> This is all to do with the (in my opinion and others) poor design of the
> system.
> The surge tank should *not *be on the 'high pressure' side of the water
> pump.
> I have had Mike Trusty pound that into my head enough that I be a true
> believer!
>
> However, lots of people get along fine with the stock setup.
>
> Now then, since I have a 'Clevor' in the car, there is no place to put a
> thermostat in/on the engine, so I have a remote thermostat.
> Started cold, the engine circulates water out of each head to the front of
> the car and back until the thermostat mounted up front (ala Mike
> Trusty/John Taphorn mod found at www.spacecitypanteras.com) opens up and
> then it goes to the radiator.
>
> The 'surge tank' is now on the suction side of the water pump. No more
> burping.
>
> My GT40 has the same setup. Works just fine, thank you very much.
> Oh.... and both cars have the condenser for the A/C mounted up front.
>
> FWIW,
> Kirby
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >    All,
> >    Yes, if you have a stock-style water pump and stock restrictor plate,
> >    you need the Cleveland thermostat with the "hat".
> >    The rest of this thread, with the dire warnings of engine block hot
> >    spots, and surging cold water, certainly sound like sound advice.
> >    But, now for a different outlook and experience.
> >    2511 was built by Quella in the mid ninety's.
> >    It has a solid, no pin hole, restrictor plate.
> >    It has the no-bypass Weiand water pump.
> >    Ron Davis/Quella triple-pass radiator.
> >    Meriah pusher fans.
> >    I've put over 50,000 miles on her since purchase in late 2002.
> >    Cracked block? No.
> >    Tragic cooling issues? No.
> >    Any issues noted in the past 12 years? No.
> >    Fellow PCNC member Garth also runs the Weiand pump with no problems
> >    noted.
> >    Sometimes logic seems to indicate a problem that in the real world
> >    doesn't actually occur.
> >    YMMV.
> >    Larry
> >
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   Hey! I did put it in quotes!
   :-)
   It froze three times last winter at my place... My palm trees
   suffered....
   sniff sniff

   On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Bill Moore <[1]bill at incendium.com>
   wrote:

     "WINTER" - Houston, really ?
     Cheers:
     Please use my [2]bill at incendium.com email address in all messages.
     Bill Moore
     Incendium Supply Ltd.
     Suite 416, #305-4625 Varsity Drive N.W.
     Calgary, AB T3A 0Z9
     403.202.0055
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso [mailto:[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
     Kirby Schrader
     Sent: June-10-14 11:26 AM
     To: Larry Finch
     Cc: 576103 .; Panteras
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Thermostat restrictor plate 351 C
     I was just typing up my reply when yours arrived, Larry.
     :-)
     I agree. I ran my Cleveland with a non-Cleveland ('Chevy' style)
     thermostat for years with a block off plate that had a really small
     hole just to get rid of the air.
     I drove my car as a daily driver for 6 years to work and back in
     Houston 'winters' and summers.
     The only cooling problem I ever had was the radiator/surge tank cap
     burping coolant when I backed off the throttle at 7000rpm at the
     track.
     Even with a 24psi cap, it burped.
     This is all to do with the (in my opinion and others) poor design of
     the system.
     The surge tank should *not *be on the 'high pressure' side of the
     water pump.
     I have had Mike Trusty pound that into my head enough that I be a
     true believer!
     However, lots of people get along fine with the stock setup.
     Now then, since I have a 'Clevor' in the car, there is no place to
     put a thermostat in/on the engine, so I have a remote thermostat.
     Started cold, the engine circulates water out of each head to the
     front of the car and back until the thermostat mounted up front (ala
     Mike Trusty/John Taphorn mod found at [4]www.spacecitypanteras.com)
     opens up and then it goes to the radiator.
     The 'surge tank' is now on the suction side of the water pump. No
     more burping.
     My GT40 has the same setup. Works just fine, thank you very much.
     Oh.... and both cars have the condenser for the A/C mounted up
     front.
     FWIW,
     Kirby
     On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Larry Finch
     <[5]fresnofinches at aol.com> wrote:
     > A  A All,
     > A  A Yes, if you have a stock-style water pump and stock
     restrictor plate,
     > A  A you need the Cleveland thermostat with the "hat".
     > A  A The rest of this thread, with the dire warnings of engine
     block hot
     > A  A spots, and surging cold water, certainly sound like sound
     advice.
     > A  A But, now for a different outlook and experience.
     > A  A 2511 was built by Quella in the mid ninety's.
     > A  A It has a solid, no pin hole, restrictor plate.
     > A  A It has the no-bypass Weiand water pump.
     > A  A Ron Davis/Quella triple-pass radiator.
     > A  A Meriah pusher fans.
     > A  A I've put over 50,000 miles on her since purchase in late
     2002.
     > A  A Cracked block? No.
     > A  A Tragic cooling issues? No.
     > A  A Any issues noted in the past 12 years? No.
     > A  A Fellow PCNC member Garth also runs the Weiand pump with no
     problems
     > A  A noted.
     > A  A Sometimes logic seems to indicate a problem that in the real
     world
     > A  A doesn't actually occur.
     > A  A YMMV.
     > A  A Larry
     >
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References

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   2. mailto:bill at incendium.com
   3. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
   4. http://www.spacecitypanteras.com/
   5. mailto:fresnofinches at aol.com
   6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com