[DeTomaso] Thermostat restrictor plate 351 C

[Kirby Schrader]

I was just typing up my reply when yours arrived, Larry.
:-)

I agree. I ran my Cleveland with a non-Cleveland ('Chevy' style) thermostat
for years with a block off plate that had a really small hole just to get
rid of the air.
I drove my car as a daily driver for 6 years to work and back in Houston
'winters' and summers.
The only cooling problem I ever had was the radiator/surge tank cap burping
coolant when I backed off the throttle at 7000rpm at the track.
Even with a 24psi cap, it burped.
This is all to do with the (in my opinion and others) poor design of the
system.
The surge tank should *not *be on the 'high pressure' side of the water
pump.
I have had Mike Trusty pound that into my head enough that I be a true
believer!

However, lots of people get along fine with the stock setup.

Now then, since I have a 'Clevor' in the car, there is no place to put a
thermostat in/on the engine, so I have a remote thermostat.
Started cold, the engine circulates water out of each head to the front of
the car and back until the thermostat mounted up front (ala Mike
Trusty/John Taphorn mod found at www.spacecitypanteras.com) opens up and
then it goes to the radiator.

The 'surge tank' is now on the suction side of the water pump. No more
burping.

My GT40 has the same setup. Works just fine, thank you very much.
Oh.... and both cars have the condenser for the A/C mounted up front.

FWIW,
Kirby



On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com> wrote:

>    All,
>    Yes, if you have a stock-style water pump and stock restrictor plate,
>    you need the Cleveland thermostat with the "hat".
>    The rest of this thread, with the dire warnings of engine block hot
>    spots, and surging cold water, certainly sound like sound advice.
>    But, now for a different outlook and experience.
>    2511 was built by Quella in the mid ninety's.
>    It has a solid, no pin hole, restrictor plate.
>    It has the no-bypass Weiand water pump.
>    Ron Davis/Quella triple-pass radiator.
>    Meriah pusher fans.
>    I've put over 50,000 miles on her since purchase in late 2002.
>    Cracked block? No.
>    Tragic cooling issues? No.
>    Any issues noted in the past 12 years? No.
>    Fellow PCNC member Garth also runs the Weiand pump with no problems
>    noted.
>    Sometimes logic seems to indicate a problem that in the real world
>    doesn't actually occur.
>    YMMV.
>    Larry
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   I was just typing up my reply when yours arrived, Larry.
   :-)
   I agree. I ran my Cleveland with a non-Cleveland ('Chevy' style)
   thermostat for years with a block off plate that had a really small
   hole just to get rid of the air.
   I drove my car as a daily driver for 6 years to work and back in
   Houston 'winters' and summers.A
   The only cooling problem I ever had was the radiator/surge tank cap
   burping coolant when I backed off the throttle at 7000rpm at the track.
   Even with a 24psi cap, it burped.
   This is all to do with the (in my opinion and others) poor design of
   the system.
   The surge tank should not be on the 'high pressure' side of the water
   pump.A
   I have had Mike Trusty pound that into my head enough that I be a true
   believer!
   However, lots of people get along fine with the stock setup.
   Now then, since I have a 'Clevor' in the car, there is no place to put
   a thermostat in/on the engine, so I have a remote thermostat.
   Started cold, the engine circulates water out of each head to the front
   of the car and back until the thermostat mounted up front (ala Mike
   Trusty/John Taphorn mod found at [1]www.spacecitypanteras.com) opens up
   and then it goes to the radiator.
   The 'surge tank' is now on the suction side of the water pump. No more
   burping.
   My GT40 has the same setup. Works just fine, thank you very much.
   Oh.... and both cars have the condenser for the A/C mounted up front.
   FWIW,
   Kirby

   On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Larry Finch
   <[2]fresnofinches at aol.com> wrote:

     A  A All,
     A  A Yes, if you have a stock-style water pump and stock restrictor
     plate,
     A  A you need the Cleveland thermostat with the "hat".
     A  A The rest of this thread, with the dire warnings of engine block
     hot
     A  A spots, and surging cold water, certainly sound like sound
     advice.
     A  A But, now for a different outlook and experience.
     A  A 2511 was built by Quella in the mid ninety's.
     A  A It has a solid, no pin hole, restrictor plate.
     A  A It has the no-bypass Weiand water pump.
     A  A Ron Davis/Quella triple-pass radiator.
     A  A Meriah pusher fans.
     A  A I've put over 50,000 miles on her since purchase in late 2002.
     A  A Cracked block? No.
     A  A Tragic cooling issues? No.
     A  A Any issues noted in the past 12 years? No.
     A  A Fellow PCNC member Garth also runs the Weiand pump with no
     problems
     A  A noted.
     A  A Sometimes logic seems to indicate a problem that in the real
     world
     A  A doesn't actually occur.
     A  A YMMV.
     A  A Larry
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References

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