[DeTomaso] Front mounted A/C

John Donahue demongusta at me.com
Fri Jun 6 21:20:43 EDT 2014


Mike:
I just went to the "UView" home page>product>cooling that you recommended.  There I found "Airlift" products for cooling systems that appear to do what Chris's unit does. Just curious which Airlift product you would recommend.
Jack
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On Jun 5, 2014, at 8:35 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com> wrote:

>   It was on May 22nd. Here it is again...
> 
>   Mike
> 
>   --------
> 
>   Hi guys,
>   Years ago Chris Difani was kind enough to let me borrow his
>   vacuum-powered cooling system filling tool, and was even kinder to let
>   me keep it here more or less indefinitely, since I'm always working on
>   either my car or somebody else's.
>   My car has been in the air for months undergoing the world's slowest
>   brake system upgrade, part of which required draining the cooling
>   system.  The brakes are all plumbed now so today I chose to reinstall
>   the hose I had to remove, and fill it up.
>   With my Iphone lying handy I decided to show how this tool works. It's
>   brilliant!
>   [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPG2B_qlwqQ
>   Unfortunately, this particular model is no longer available from Harbor
>   Freight Tools where he got it.  A different company offers several
>   competing designs however.
>   [2]http://www.uview.com/index.cfm?DSP=ProductList&pagepath=Products/Coo
>   ling&id=45700
>   This tool is one of the best investments I ever would have made, had I
>   actually made it!  Having a friend like Chris who just lets me keep it
>   is even better!
>   Mike
>   Sent from my iPhone
> 
>   On Jun 5, 2014, at 20:09, "Stephen Nelson" <[3]steve at snclocks.com>
>   wrote:
> 
>   I don't remember seeing a reference to your vacuum method.  Searched
>   youtube
>   but didn't spot it.  Can you provide a link?
>   Stephen Nelson
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
>   [5]MikeLDrew at aol.com
>   Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 8:01 PM
>   To: [6]demongusta at me.com; [7]adin at frontier.net
>   Cc: [8]detomaso at poca.com
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Front mounted A/C
>   In a message dated 6/5/14 15 34 8, [9]demongusta at me.com writes:
> 
>     Can someone define "overheating"?
> 
>     Other than the obvious - seizing the motor
> 
>     Well, there is an optimal temperature range for an engine.   Ford
>     says
> 
>   it's 192 degrees, but just to be on the safe side I try to run mine
>   around
>   180 degrees.
>   Water boils at 212F at sea level with no pressure.   But the boiling
>   point
>   goes down as the elevation goes up due to lower pressure.   A radiator
>   cap
>   adds positive pressure (13-16 lbs is optimal) which raises the boiling
>   point,
>   so that water will stay in liquid solution up to about 260F.
>   Once you pass the boiling point, very bad things happen.   The water
>   turns
>   to steam, the engine cools unevenly, heat is unable to escape, pressure
>   skyrockets as water turns to steam (a water droplet expands to 2500
>   times
>   its
>   size when turned to steam), the radiator cap vents and dumps water on
>   the
>   ground, the heads can warp, head gaskets blow, water sprays everywhere,
>   your
>   day
>   is done and your engine is cooked.
>   Note that modern cars are designed to run at hotter temps and it's
>   apparently quite common to see 230-240 degrees.   I don't own anything
>   modern so
>   I'll stick with 180-200 thank you!
>   There is absolutely no reason for a Pantera to overheat.   Most
>   Panteras
>   that I've seen that were running hot, were doing so not because of any
>   fault
>   with the system, but rather due to poor maintenance--the owner had not
>   properly bled the air out of the cooling system.   Air is a terrible
>   thing
>   to have
>   in your cooling system and will lead to all sorts of problems.
>   While it is possible to get perhaps 95% of the air out using
>   conventional
>   bleeding techniques, a vacuum-based bleeder such as the one I
>   demonstrated
>   on
>   Youtube a couple of weeks ago gets you close to 100% effective and is
>   much
>   mo' bettah.
>   Mike
> 
> References
> 
>   1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPG2B_qlwqQ
>   2. http://www.uview.com/index.cfm?DSP=ProductList&pagepath=Products/Cooling&id=45700
>   3. mailto:steve at snclocks.com
>   4. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
>   5. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
>   6. mailto:demongusta at me.com
>   7. mailto:adin at frontier.net
>   8. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>   9. mailto:demongusta at me.com
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