[DeTomaso] NPC Re: Aerial drone Embarcadero video

Himes, Terry (397C) terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Wed Jun 4 21:33:40 EDT 2014


The newer AeroQuads have the "Keep Out" zones already programmed into the flight software.  Mine does.
If I fly too close to an airport or military "keep out' zone (no fly) the AeroQuad will automatically land and send
me it's GPS location for pickup.   Also, if I turn off the controller or fly it out of controller distance (700m) then it
will automatically fly home (where it was launched).  The built in GPS is good for within several feet.

BTW -  Wifi on a phone (iPhone or Android) is only good for 996 ft.





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From: "michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>" <michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>>
Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 6:04 PM
To: boyd casey <boyd411 at gmail.com<mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com>>
Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>>, "detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>" <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Re: Aerial drone Embarcadero video

That have jammers and can take over your drone and fly it now...try flying
near a military base...your toy will be taken over...it happened here.  You
don't get it back.

Michael
On Jun 4, 2014 8:51 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com<mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com>> wrote:

    You can't jam the autonomous ones because they are not radio controlled
    ! You could also do away with the projectile firing weapon and just
    strap on a kilo of C4 or some of the even more powerful stuff , or a
    claymore!. Imagine 2 lbs of C4 dropping into your lap or through your
    open sunroof! Remember when the mossad loaded up the PLO guys cell
    phone with plastique? They called him up and when he said hello they
    pressed #Goodbye and blew his head right off!. True story (except for
    the #goodbye part) one of the coolest special ops liquidations in
    history.
    Boyd

    On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:02 PM, dave londry <[1]davel at emspace.com<mailto:davel at emspace.com>>
    wrote:

      Nice run of ideas there guys.
      The arsenals already through RCL small-bore stuff, but it's much
      easier when you can vent gasses straight back.
      They always had to worry about the poor bugger holding onto the
      thing.
      Now that's pretty far-out, but ECM in the world of drones is not
      far-out at all.
      dave
      On 04/06/2014 3:26 PM, Ken Green wrote:

      But what about recoil? A I know a 45 ACP has a kick.
      I guess you could develop a recoil-less small bore weapon? Model it
      on a scaled down 106 recoil-less rifle?
      "It's the End of the World as We Know It" A I can see the street
      gangs taking out each other with stuff like this.
      But Dave, a new market, household RC control jammers!
      Ken
      *From:* Boyd Casey <[2]boyd411 at gmail.com<mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com>>
      *To:* dave londry <[3]davel at emspace.com<mailto:davel at emspace.com>>
      *Cc:* "[4]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>" <[5]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
      *Sent:* Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:24 PM
      *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial drone Embarcadero video
      A  Everybody knows about predator drones. I saw a video where
      someone
      A  attached a semi auto pistol to a quad copter. They were able to
      fly
      A  using an iPad as a remote control with a camera supplying a birds
      eye
      A  view of the target A and surrounding area. This device had a
      range of
      A  around a mile. So an assassin could fly a drone to a target and
      A  assassinate them with a full clip from point blank range, Talk
      about
      A  special delivery! With facial recognition software and autonomous
      A  computer control it would be possible to have a squadron of small
      A  drones programed with kill on site commands for a number of
      targets. I
      A  also saw a demonstration on the Science Channel where they had a
      group
      A  of Quad copters that had to fly through a complex maze. The
      drones
      A  where networked to a cloud based server so when one drone learned
      the
      A  maze all the copters knew it simultaneously. It was like the
      BorgA .
      A  They demonstrated 4 drones working together holding a square net
      A  between the four copters. A human threw them a small ball and the
      four
      A  copters flew in concert and caught the ball with the net, then
      they
      A  worked together to toss the ball back to the human! It was
      amazing but
      A  also very scary!. A few or a few hundred or a few thousand all
      working
      A  together and everyone of them knowing everything that each
      individual
      A  learned at the exact same moment the first one learned it!A
      Skynet is
      A  here ( practically). A The advances in technology and it's
      A  weaponization makes George Orwell's 1984 sound like a fairy tale.
      A  BoydA
      A  On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:23 PM, dave londry
      <[1][6]davel at emspace.com<mailto:davel at emspace.com> <mailto:[7]davel at emspace.com>>
      A  wrote:
      A  A  That was nice Larry, but where's my parcel?
      A  A  dave
      A  A  On 04/06/2014 12:40 PM, Larry Finch wrote:
      A  A  A A A A All,
      A  A  A A A A Don't think this video link has been posted yet.
      A  A  A A A A Enjoy!
      A  A  A A A A [1][2][8]http://youtu.be/en0E36BMmg0
      A  A  A A A A Larry
      A  A  References
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   The newer AeroQuads have the "Keep Out" zones already programmed into
   the flight software.  Mine does.
   If I fly too close to an airport or military "keep out' zone (no fly)
   the AeroQuad will automatically land and send
   me it's GPS location for pickup.   Also, if I turn off the controller
   or fly it out of controller distance (700m) then it
   will automatically fly home (where it was launched).  The built in GPS
   is good for within several feet.
   BTW -  Wifi on a phone (iPhone or Android) is only good for 996 ft.

   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life

     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried

     to contact us!"

   Terry W. Himes  [cid:29E795F6-FC79-47A2-BFA6-F6E167E27751]

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead

   Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead

   Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:     (818) 653-8213

   Fax:     (818) 393-3147

   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   From: "[2]michael at michaelshortt.com" <[3]michael at michaelshortt.com>
   Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 6:04 PM
   To: boyd casey <[4]boyd411 at gmail.com>
   Cc: Ken Green <[5]kenn_green at yahoo.com>, "[6]detomaso at poca.com"
   <[7]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC Re: Aerial drone Embarcadero video

   That have jammers and can take over your drone and fly it now...try
   flying
   near a military base...your toy will be taken over...it happened
   here.  You
   don't get it back.
   Michael
   On Jun 4, 2014 8:51 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[8]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:

       You can't jam the autonomous ones because they are not radio
   controlled

       ! You could also do away with the projectile firing weapon and just

       strap on a kilo of C4 or some of the even more powerful stuff , or
   a

       claymore!. Imagine 2 lbs of C4 dropping into your lap or through
   your

       open sunroof! Remember when the mossad loaded up the PLO guys cell

       phone with plastique? They called him up and when he said hello
   they

       pressed #Goodbye and blew his head right off!. True story (except
   for

       the #goodbye part) one of the coolest special ops liquidations in

       history.

       Boyd

       On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:02 PM, dave londry
   <[1][9]davel at emspace.com>

       wrote:

         Nice run of ideas there guys.

         The arsenals already through RCL small-bore stuff, but it's much

         easier when you can vent gasses straight back.

         They always had to worry about the poor bugger holding onto the

         thing.

         Now that's pretty far-out, but ECM in the world of drones is not

         far-out at all.

         dave

         On 04/06/2014 3:26 PM, Ken Green wrote:

         But what about recoil? A I know a 45 ACP has a kick.

         I guess you could develop a recoil-less small bore weapon? Model
   it

         on a scaled down 106 recoil-less rifle?

         "It's the End of the World as We Know It" A I can see the street

         gangs taking out each other with stuff like this.

         But Dave, a new market, household RC control jammers!

         Ken

         *From:* Boyd Casey <[2][10]boyd411 at gmail.com>

         *To:* dave londry <[3][11]davel at emspace.com>

         *Cc:* "[4][12]detomaso at poca.com" <[5][13]detomaso at poca.com>

         *Sent:* Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:24 PM

         *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Aerial drone Embarcadero video

         A  Everybody knows about predator drones. I saw a video where

         someone

         A  attached a semi auto pistol to a quad copter. They were able
   to

         fly

         A  using an iPad as a remote control with a camera supplying a
   birds

         eye

         A  view of the target A and surrounding area. This device had a

         range of

         A  around a mile. So an assassin could fly a drone to a target
   and

         A  assassinate them with a full clip from point blank range, Talk

         about

         A  special delivery! With facial recognition software and
   autonomous

         A  computer control it would be possible to have a squadron of
   small

         A  drones programed with kill on site commands for a number of

         targets. I

         A  also saw a demonstration on the Science Channel where they had
   a

         group

         A  of Quad copters that had to fly through a complex maze. The

         drones

         A  where networked to a cloud based server so when one drone
   learned

         the

         A  maze all the copters knew it simultaneously. It was like the

         BorgA .

         A  They demonstrated 4 drones working together holding a square
   net

         A  between the four copters. A human threw them a small ball and
   the

         four

         A  copters flew in concert and caught the ball with the net, then

         they

         A  worked together to toss the ball back to the human! It was

         amazing but

         A  also very scary!. A few or a few hundred or a few thousand all

         working

         A  together and everyone of them knowing everything that each

         individual

         A  learned at the exact same moment the first one learned it!A

         Skynet is

         A  here ( practically). A The advances in technology and it's

         A  weaponization makes George Orwell's 1984 sound like a fairy
   tale.

         A  BoydA

         A  On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:23 PM, dave londry

         <[1][6][14]davel at emspace.com <[15]mailto:[7]davel at emspace.com>>

         A  wrote:

         A  A  That was nice Larry, but where's my parcel?

         A  A  dave

         A  A  On 04/06/2014 12:40 PM, Larry Finch wrote:

         A  A  A A A A All,

         A  A  A A A A Don't think this video link has been posted yet.

         A  A  A A A A Enjoy!

         A  A  A A A A [1][2][8][16]http://youtu.be/en0E36BMmg0

         A  A  A A A A Larry

         A  A  References

         A  A  A A A A 1. [3][9][17]http://youtu.be/en0E36BMmg0

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         A  2. [18][26]http://youtu.be/en0E36BMmg0

         A  3. [19][27]http://youtu.be/en0E36BMmg0

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