[DeTomaso] Moving ac condenser to front of car., no, don't.

Robert Pink robpink2012 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 4 12:54:27 EDT 2014


Well I have a front mounted AC condenser. I live in Houston Texas. Perhaps
one of the hotest places in the world where Pantreras roam.

I have great AC and have no issues with cooling.

One big pro it can work with no problems.

Another it cleans all that junk out of the rear of the car and looks great.

Assuming you need and new condensor and plan to replace those AC hoses
there isn't much difference in the price

And last it means I can have AC and 180 degree headers (coming soon )

On Wednesday, June 4, 2014, Mikael <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk> wrote:

> Boyd, allow me to paste in my earlier input on this. Nobody disagreed back
> then, that could of course be because they think I'm beyond repair... :-)
> Please read below...
>
> --
> It pops up once in a while: the idea of front mounted A/C. Before you
> spend the time and money (unless you’re rich and retired and needs to get
> through the day), consider this:
> It would have been easier and cheaper for DeTomaso to have the A/C in the
> front, so why did they go to rear mounted? Very simply because having two
> hot things close to one another doesn’t help.
>
> A/C:
> 1.      If going slow or standing still in stop and go traffic, which
> would you rather have? A rear mounted no restrictions system is for sure
> better than a front mounted where it would be sitting next to a hot
> radiator and airflow would be restricted by having to pass through both of
> them
> 2.      If cruising or going fast, the extra air flow from the car moving
> MIGHT give better A/C cooling. I’ve never seen figures to document that,
> and my own rear mounted A/C deals with German/French highways and stop and
> go in summer, without me having to turn the knob to full cool, it’s just
> working as designed
>
> Engine cooling:
> 3.      Who would dispute that the risk of overheating the engine is
> bigger when a hot restrictive A/C system is placed in front of the radiator?
>
> So what are the pros and cons? There are two definite “cons”, 1. and 3.,
> and one maybe “pro”, 2. Do the math, and save the time and money, and spend
> it on getting the original system to work as designed. Be cool
> Mikael
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: Boyd Casey [mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com <javascript:;>]
> Sendt: 3. juni 2014 01:15
> Til: detomaso at poca.com <javascript:;>
> Emne: [DeTomaso] Moving ac condenser to front of car.
>
> As some of you may recall I blew up my engine and was considering
> installing a Coyote engine. As much as I think the Coyote is a great engine
> I have decided to stick with a Cleveland. I have always wanted 180 degree
> headers and having just installed a super deluxe new AC stem last year the
> prospect of moving the condenser and hoses to the front of the car is the
> only thing that is standing in m way. When I upgraded I installed a very
> thin parallel flow condenser . I was wondering how much air flow
> restriction mooing the condenser to behind the radiator will cause. I have
> a "True" lay down radiator and sucker fans. Is there anything else I should
> worry about or take into consideration. I went 5 years with out having
> working AC and the new set up was blowing cold air at 42F so I don't want
> to go back to the "Sauna".
> Boyd
>
>
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   Well I have a frontA mounted AC condenser. I live in Houston Texas.
   Perhaps one of the hotest places in the world where Pantreras roam.

   I have great AC and have no issues with cooling.A

   One big pro it canA work with no problems.

   Another it cleans all that junk out of the rear of the car and looks
   great.

   Assuming you need and new condensor and plan to replace those AC hoses
   there isn't much difference in the price

   And last it means I can have AC and 180 degree headers (coming soon )

   On Wednesday, June 4, 2014, Mikael <[1]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk> wrote:

     Boyd, allow me to paste in my earlier input on this. Nobody
     disagreed back then, that could of course be because they think I'm
     beyond repair... :-) Please read below...
     --
     It pops up once in a while: the idea of front mounted A/C. Before
     you spend the time and money (unless youare rich and retired and
     needs to get through the day), consider this:
     It would have been easier and cheaper for DeTomaso to have the A/C
     in the front, so why did they go to rear mounted? Very simply
     because having two hot things close to one another doesnat help.
     A/C:
     1. A  A  A If going slow or standing still in stop and go traffic,
     which would you rather have? A rear mounted no restrictions system
     is for sure better than a front mounted where it would be sitting
     next to a hot radiator and airflow would be restricted by having to
     pass through both of them
     2. A  A  A If cruising or going fast, the extra air flow from the
     car moving MIGHT give better A/C cooling. Iave never seen figures to
     document that, and my own rear mounted A/C deals with German/French
     highways and stop and go in summer, without me having to turn the
     knob to full cool, itas just working as designed
     Engine cooling:
     3. A  A  A Who would dispute that the risk of overheating the engine
     is bigger when a hot restrictive A/C system is placed in front of
     the radiator?
     So what are the pros and cons? There are two definite aconsa, 1. and
     3., and one maybe aproa, 2. Do the math, and save the time and
     money, and spend it on getting the original system to work as
     designed. Be cool
     Mikael
     -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
     Fra: Boyd Casey [mailto:[2]boyd411 at gmail.com]
     Sendt: 3. juni 2014 01:15
     Til: [3]detomaso at poca.com
     Emne: [DeTomaso] Moving ac condenser to front of car.
     As some of you may recall I blew up my engine and was considering
     installing a Coyote engine. As much as I think the Coyote is a great
     engine I have decided to stick with a Cleveland. I have always
     wanted 180 degree headers and having just installed a super deluxe
     new AC stem last year the prospect of moving the condenser and hoses
     to the front of the car is the only thing that is standing in m way.
     When I upgraded I installed a very thin parallel flow condenser . I
     was wondering how much air flow restriction mooing the condenser to
     behind the radiator will cause. I have a "True" lay down radiator
     and sucker fans. Is there anything else I should worry about or take
     into consideration. I went 5 years with out having working AC and
     the new set up was blowing cold air at 42F so I don't want to go
     back to the "Sauna".
     Boyd
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