[DeTomaso] DeTomaso] Help required with deck lid lock

Mike Drew MikeLDrew at aol.com
Tue Jun 3 22:49:40 EDT 2014


You don't have to. That's the locksmith's job. :)

Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 1, 2014, at 14:35, R M Services <coatesr8 at aol.com> wrote:

> I have the lock in my hand but don't know how to get the barrel out
> 
> Mike Drew wrote:
> Roger,
> 
> It's simple to get the lock unit into your hands. Once that's done it's the work of a moment for any good auto locksmith to get it fully sorted.  
> 
> Mike
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 1, 2014, at 6:28, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>  No I don't, Roger, but mine has been getting harder and harder to turn,
>>  so I stopped locking it a few years ago for fear or breaking the key
>>  off, or ending up not being able to open the decklid.
>> 
>>  On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Roger <[1]coatesr8 at aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>>    Does any of you guys out there know how to dismantle the deck lid
>>    lock barrel, mine will not lock as the key will not turn to expand
>>    the two little tags at the end.
>>    Thanks
>>    Roger C . UK.
>>    Sent from A Roger's iPhone
>>    On 1 Jun 2014, at 08:31, Christopher Kimball
>>    <[2]chrisvkimball at msn.com> wrote:
>>> A  Day Nine, March 31st: It cant be over yetit just started!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Its almost impossible to believe the Fun Rally is over. A The
>>    time
>>> A  passed so quickly; I guess thats what happens when you pack a
>>    ton of
>>> A  fun into just 4 1/2 days. A Of course, for me there are another
>>    five
>>> A  days to go before I reach home, and thats assuming all goes as
>>    planned
>>> A  (plans which have already been altered, as Ill describe later).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  This morning I had to get up at 7:30. A Its almost as if I were
>>    going
>>> A  into the office! A I rose that early because of a meeting, but
>>    it was
>>> A  the POCA Presidents meeting. A These meetings are top-secret.
>>    A Before
>>> A  the meeting starts, each attendee pricks his or her finger, and
>>    the
>>> A  blood from each is combined in a silver chalice. A We then
>>> A  simultaneously chant the POCA vow of confidentiality, engage in
>>    the
>>> A  secret Pantera Handshake, and confirm that if anyone divulges
>>    any of
>>> A  the information about to be discussed he or she must
>>    subsequently pour
>>> A  the contents of the chalice into his or her Panteras cooling
>>    system,
>>> A  and be banned from all future car-related activities for
>>    eternity.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  No wait; due to the early hour of our Presidents breakfast
>>    meeting I
>>> A  must have drifted off to sleep at the table and dreamed all
>>    that
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Seriously, Im not sure how much of what was discussed at the
>>    meeting Im
>>> A  free to divulge, so Ill just mention a few items which aren't
>>    secret.
>>> A  If you would like a full transcript of the meeting, simply log
>>    on to
>>> A  [1][3]www.NSA.gov and you should find everything recorded
>>    there. A Im just
>>> A  kidding. A Dont really go to that website, it may lead you to
>>    an
>>> A  unseemly cat-juggling forum.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  One of the issues we discussed, which should be of concern to
>>    all POCA
>>> A  members, is that of our aging membership. A I suggested we
>>    simply
>>> A  discover a youth serum so we could live forever at whatever age
>>    we
>>> A  wanted.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  I couldn't get a second on that motion, so we discussed other
>>    options,
>>> A  such as talking to everyone we meet about the excitement of
>>    owning a
>>> A  Pantera and the fun of interacting with such a great group of
>>    people as
>>> A  POCA club members.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  If you have ideas on how to inspire young people to keep the
>>    POCA fire
>>> A  alive (and I dont mean the one which occurred in my engine
>>    compartment
>>> A  a few years ago--twice), please let those of us on the board
>>    know about
>>> A  it. A Take any opportunities you can to talk about our favorite
>>    cars to
>>> A  members of the media, or people you meet at car shows. A Its in
>>    all our
>>> A  best interest to support each other, the Pantera vendors, and
>>    POCA.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  During the meeting, the POCA leadership talked about additional
>>    items,
>>> A  all top-secret, except for the other motion I made which
>>> A  also wasn't seconded. A I thought it was a great idea to raise
>>    the
>>> A  annual dues to $400 per year and give the extra $325 from each
>>    member
>>> A  to me so I can make my car look as cool as some of the ones
>>    I've seen
>>> A  this year. A Unfortunately, no one else could see the
>>    brilliance of that
>>> A  plan.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Speaking of cool cars (and why wouldn't we?), after the
>>    Presidents
>>> A  meeting, we drove about 6 miles from the hotel to join the rest
>>    of the
>>> A  members and their cars at San Diegos Embarcadero Marina Park
>>    for an
>>> A  exclusive Pantera car show. A We were treated as royalty; we
>>    even got to
>>> A  drive our cars along the winding sidewalk to the grassy knoll
>>> A  overlooking the water. A Fortunately, there wasn't any sinister
>>    plot
>>> A  concerning the grassy knoll, in fact, the Park is located on
>>    the East
>>> A  side of San Diego Bay and is adjacent to Seaport Villagea
>>    decidedly
>>> A  non-sinister place. A It is truly a postcard come to life.
>>    A The water
>>> A  was as blue as grabber (Ford people get that joke), there were
>>    boats
>>> A  and ships passing by, the stores and shops along the water were
>>> A  picturesque, and there were probably close to 70 Panteras lined
>>    up on
>>> A  the grass.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  The weather was perfect (again), and if one began to feel a
>>    little too
>>> A  warm, shelter was offered courtesy of some covered areas. A The
>>    pictures
>>> A  simply cant do the experience justice. A Walking among the
>>    gorgeous
>>> A  DeTomasos was almost ethereal. A If only I didn't have these
>>    pesky
>>> A  financial obligations, such as food, clothing, shelter, and
>>    private
>>> A  college for my sons, maybe my car could look as spectacular as
>>    some of
>>> A  the examples at the show this afternoon.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Not only were there over-the-top, rolling works of art, but
>>    also a few
>>> A  Panteras in virtually stock condition. A As we all know, these
>>    are
>>> A  getting harder to find.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  The same drone I saw yesterday was again hovering around the
>>    cars. A I
>>> A  think it may be following us.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  While at the village I felt something calling mewhat could it
>>    be? A I
>>> A  followed the inner voice which led me tosurprise! A A Ben and
>>    Jerrys ice
>>> A  cream stand. A I enjoyed a coffee-ice-cream malt. A It cost the
>>    same as
>>> A  the one room service brought me last night. A This doesn't
>>    necessarily
>>> A  mean I overpaid this afternoon. A What it might mean is the
>>> A  room-service-provided malt wasn't such a bad deal after all.
>>    A Thank you
>>> A  sir, may I have another? A You bet!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  As I drove back to the hotel, I noticed my car groaning.
>>    A Since
>>> A  I hadn't told it a joke, I didn't know why that would be
>>    happening. A It
>>> A  was most evident as I turned corners, and seemed to have
>>    something to
>>> A  do with the steering rack. A Im no mechanic, but I think its
>>    generally
>>> A  not a good idea to have a steering rack fall off while
>>    traveling at 70
>>> A  miles per hour. A Since safety is any Pantera owners first
>>    concern
>>> A  (well, OK, maybe second, after speed), I wanted to have someone
>>    smarter
>>> A  than I check it out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  I asked a couple of members what they thought, and within
>>    minutes
>>> A  several had gathered around Pandora, we had her up on a jack;
>>    the front
>>> A  wheels being wiggled. A It turns out not only is it a good idea
>>    to
>>> A  wiggle wires when diagnosing a problem, but wiggling anything
>>    can be
>>> A  helpful.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  One of the people suggested I talk with Don Byars. A Don has a
>>    business
>>> A  card with a Picture of a Pantera on it, and his company is
>>    called
>>> A  Full-Throttle Panteras. A This indicated to me he just might be
>>    a good
>>> A  person to know, especially with a 1460-mile journey ahead of
>>    me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Not only did he come out to the parking garage to check things
>>    out, he
>>> A  is actually going to take a look at the steering mechanism
>>    tomorrow in
>>> A  his shop. A Mike Drew and Don both agreed about what they think
>>    might be
>>> A  the problem, and a visit to Dons shop may rectify things for
>>    me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Two things struck mefirst, Dons shop isn't open on Sundays, so
>>    this
>>> A  again reflects the generosity of those who make up the Pantera
>>> A  community.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Secondly, Sunday is supposed to be a day of rest. A Basically I
>>    would be
>>> A  causing Don to work on the Sabbath. A This is a perfect example
>>    of why
>>> A  its really good to study the Bible; I remembered the story of
>>    Jesus
>>> A  being accused by the Pharisees of working on the Sabbath, and
>>    how the
>>> A  question was resolved.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  What Jesus had done on the Sabbath that was supposedly so bad
>>    was heal
>>> A  a man. A His response to the accusers was to ask them if they
>>    thought it
>>> A  was right to do good on the Sabbath. A Of course that was
>>    rhetorical;
>>> A  its always a good thing to heal someone whos sick.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  I think you know where Im going with this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Clearly Pandora needs to be restored to health. A Therefore,
>>    Don is
>>> A  demonstrating a Biblical example. A By fixing my Pantera, Don
>>    is simply
>>> A  doing the Lords work
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  I really do appreciate Dons generosity, and look forward to
>>    seeing his
>>> A  shop tomorrowits only 10 minutes from the hotel.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Later, I took a quick shower and put on slacks (something I
>>    havent had
>>> A  to think about for a while), and went downstairs to the
>>    ballroom for
>>> A  the capstone of the weekend; the banquet and raffle.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  The big disappointment was I didn't win the M&M-guessing
>>    contest. A I
>>> A  guessed there were 2600 in the container which had been sitting
>>    in the
>>> A  hospitality suite during the Fun Rally. A Someone named Renee
>>    guessed
>>> A  about 40 more than I did, and she won. A Im sure shell enjoy
>>    them, but I
>>> A  hope she remembers to floss.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  That wasn't really the biggest disappointment. A That happened
>>    when they
>>> A  announced the raffle numbers for the new taillight lenses. A I
>>    put every
>>> A  raffle ticket I had in that one, single box. A But alas, even
>>    though two
>>> A  sets were awarded, I was not one of the lucky winners. A Doh!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Never mind, I was in for a nice surprise anyway, which Ill get
>>    to in a
>>> A  moment.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  The room was set up beautifully, and the picture I took shows
>>    one of
>>> A  the two buffet lines, just before it was devastated by a bunch
>>    of
>>> A  hungry Pantera owners. A The room was full of peopleattendance
>>    was
>>> A  good.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  I was busy selling all the raffle tickets I was given at the
>>    Presidents
>>> A  breakfast, so I was late getting a seat. A It turned out fine,
>>    though,
>>> A  since I was fortunate to be seated at a table full of nice
>>    folks.
>>> A  Seated from left to right: A Matt Lipski, owner of a 1971
>>    push-button;
>>> A  David Briggs, owner of a 65 Mustang R-code clone and a 1966
>>    GT40; Dave
>>> A  and Susan McCartney, who own a Group 4 replica; and John and
>>    Beth
>>> A  Drago, owners of a 1973 L.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  We had a good time during the evening, although despite his
>>    intense
>>> A  desire to do so, Matt didn't end up winning any raffle prizes
>>    (but he
>>> A  did win an award for his car).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Ill give you a short version of the evenings events (I know;
>>    youre
>>> A  thinking, Short version? A From Chris? A This will be a first).
>>    A Forgive
>>> A  me if I leave a few things outthings moved along at a pretty
>>    fast clip.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  John Buckman, our fearless President, addressed the
>>    enthusiastic
>>> A  crowd. A I hope he could feel the admiration and appreciation
>>    we all
>>> A  have for him and his efforts. A Indeed, applause spontaneously
>>    erupted
>>> A  about every 3 minutes during the entire evening!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  He introduced the keynote speakerTim Forakerwho had worked for
>>    Ford
>>> A  during the early years of Pantera development and production.
>>    A His talk
>>> A  was titled Pantera Growing Pains 1970-72.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  His delivery was energetic and humorous. A He told of how he
>>    worked for
>>> A  Shelby American in the late 60s, then moved to Michigan even
>>    though his
>>> A  opinion of Michigan wasn't particularly high. A  A He explained
>>    how Ford
>>> A  got involved with the whole Pantera thing mainly because they
>>    wanted to
>>> A  buy Ghia. A The fact the Pantera project was part of the deal
>>    was
>>> A  secondary.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Of the first six Panteras brought into the Country, each of the
>>    five,
>>> A  high-level executives and Mr. Foraker got to take one home for
>>    the
>>> A  weekend to try out. A Although he returned his to Ford
>>    unscathed, one of
>>> A  the executives was not so lucky. A While braking to avoid a dog
>>    in the
>>> A  road, he slid his Pantera into a ditch, but then blamed his
>>> A  16-year-old-son for the mishap! A Executiveswhat can you say?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  After one of Fords test drivers gave a Pantera a spin, and used
>>    some
>>> A  colorful expletives to describe the experience to some of Fords
>>    top
>>> A  brass, Fords legal department started asking questions. A Who
>>    owns the
>>> A  Pantera? A Who designed the Pantera?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  When it was revealed the Italians were responsible for the
>>    design of
>>> A  the car, the lawyers went nuts, and demanded the car be
>>    reviewed by
>>> A  Fords engineering department. A That turned out to be a wise
>>    decision
>>> A  (seesome attorneys do make wise decisions). A There were
>>    literally
>>> A  hundreds of changes needed to make the car viable. A The first
>>    500 or so
>>> A  Panteras were already produced by then, so three companies in
>>    the US
>>> A  had to retrofit them to get them up to spec. A The next
>>    thousand needed
>>> A  only minor adjustments, and cars produced after those were fine
>>    from
>>> A  the factory.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Sometimes keynote speakers can drag on and on. A This is
>>    annoying for
>>> A  people who want to hurry up and get to the good part of the
>>> A  eveningfinding out if they've won anything. A In this case,
>>    though, the
>>> A  talk was the perfect length. A In fact, I found myself wishing
>>    he would
>>> A  have shared even more stories. A All in all, it was a great
>>> A  presentation.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Did I mention the food was delicious? A I had a little of
>>    everything,
>>> A  and two desserts. A Before I took two desserts I checked with
>>    the maitre
>>> A  d to be sure they had more in the kitchen. A I would never want
>>    to deny
>>> A  anyone dessert. A He assured me there was plenty.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Mike Becker announced a slew of awards sponsored by vendors.
>>    A Winners
>>> A  included Bob Richards, Phil Camp, Ed Nagel, Matt Lipski, Teri
>>    Lambert,
>>> A  Marcus and Irene Smith, Ron and Bobbie Demaderios, George
>>    Walker, and
>>> A  Clarke and Wilma Hamm.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  The Don Peak Memorial Award went to the Late Gary and Bev Hall.
>>    A Since
>>> A  Bev was unable to attend tonight, her granddaughter, Tara,
>>    accepted the
>>> A  award while expressing her appreciation to the club.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  The Gary Powley Presidential award went to Tony and Carmen
>>    Ortiz, and
>>> A  the Stanley Cooper award for most original Pantera went to
>>    Clarke and
>>> A  Wilma Hamm. A For those of you counting at home, that means the
>>    Hamms
>>> A  got two awards! A They deserve them both.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  The Peoples Choice award went to Ed Mendez for his incredibly
>>    beautiful
>>> A  (and fast) red rocket ship. A Don Byars helped create that
>>    masterpiece.
>>> A  Im hoping that after I leave his shop tomorrow my car will look
>>    just
>>> A  like EdsJ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Mike Drew announced the winners of the Farthest Traveled Award.
>>    A Reid
>>> A  and Tanya Vaught traveled over 1700 miles from Arkansas in
>>    their
>>> A  Pantera to be here, so they were the clear winners. A But wait!
>>    A There
>>> A  were two awardsand yours truly received the other, for my
>>    1460-mile
>>> A  drive from Washington State. A Its really cool to have received
>>    the
>>> A  award, and I appreciate it very much.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Kevin and Ann Smith traveled the farthest distance using
>>    non-Pantera
>>> A  transportation. A They came from New Jersey.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Finally, there were people who received special recognition for
>>    their
>>> A  contributions to the event. A They were Bret Gann, Cathy
>>    Buckman, and
>>> A  Sharon (whose last name I didn't hearsorry!)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Im pretty sure I misspelled a name or two, and may have even
>>    entirely
>>> A  missed a few winners and/or presenters. A Remember, however, I
>>    was
>>> A  trying to keep track of all this after some pretty heavy
>>    drinking: A two
>>> A  cups of tea with cream, and 7 sugar packs per cup.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  Tomorrow everyone heads home. A As I mentioned earlier, its
>>    hard to
>>> A  believe the 2014 Fun Rally is already over. A Soon I hope well
>>    know
>>> A  where next years event will be held. A The Town and Country is
>>    changing
>>> A  ownership next week, so it remains to be seen if it will still
>>    be a
>>> A  viable location.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A  I still have at least five more days to go before my trip is
>>    over, so
>>> A  dont expect these daily journals to stop just yet! A With any
>>    luck, Ill
>>> A  be writing to you tomorrow night from Santa Barbara. A Keep
>>    your fingers
>>> A  crossed.
>>> 
>>> References
>>> 
>>> A  1. [4]http://www.nsa.gov/
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>>  2. mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com
>>  3. http://www.NSA.gov/
>>  4. http://www.nsa.gov/
>>  5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>>  6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>>  7. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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