[DeTomaso] Fwd: Check this new plane out!
Boyd Casey
boyd411 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 31 21:54:44 EDT 2014
At 65,000 ft I don't see this plane doing much "spying" at least not
against an "enemy" but Will makes an excellent point. Most of the
technologies we take for granted today were first developed for other uses
, a very substantial number of them were military,Like the Internet!
I can see this technology serving many useful purposes , like border
monitoring, meteorological research and the clean energy aspects are
boundless. And while in it's current form this aircraft can stay airborne
for 4 days but the goal is TEN! Ten days airborne would be really
impressive!
Boyd
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Useful "Defensive" operation for US borders? Dunno
>
>
>
> *"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life *
>
> * exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried*
>
> * to contact us!"*
>
>
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>
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> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:31 PM
> To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Check this new plane out!
>
> Interesting.
>
> It could have several applications beyond being a spy plane. The
> altitude
> and time in the air are impressive.
>
> Remember, most inventions were supposed to be something else.
>
> Thomas Edison invented a pen that would perforate paper to create a
> stencil. The stencil was later used to silk screen copies. This was
> before carbon paper, and copies were tedious. Everything was basically
> done 2 or 3 times.
>
> His invention was too bulky, though. Nobody wanted to use it.
>
> It was later adapted to tattooing, and the design is still used today.
>
>
> On 7/31/14, 6:22 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Personally I don't"get it". This plane doesn't carry weapons. I am not
> a pacifist , but I'm also not a war monger. I thought this was a cool
> piece of technology. Powered by two 150 hp engines , runs on hydrogen,
> 0 emissions and stays airborne @ 65,000 ft for 4 days. I don't A who
> "audionut" is I have never seen A a post by him before. But I feel at
> least part of his name is well chosen!
> Boyd
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[1]rob at dumoulins.net>
> wrote:
>
> A A Not to perpetuate a flame war, but I'd rather see the alien or
> caveman
> A A carrying the "club" before somebody I know gets hit by it.
> A A I did like the War Pigs reference......one of Ozzy's best. A
> Let's talk
> A A music instead :)
> A A RobA
> A A On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:05 PM, <[1][2]audionut at hushmail.com>
> wrote:
> A A A A A A Whoopee.
> A A A A A A More sinister toys created by and for War Pigs.
> A A A A A A Oh well...... world domination through fear of death
> and
> A A A destruction =
> A A A A A A peace, right?
> A A A A A A Modern enlightened humanity? A Or are we still cavemen
> bashing
> A A A each
> A A A A A A other's skulls, albeit with highly technologically
> advanced
> A A A bones.
> A A A A A A ...........................
> A A A A A A Bring on the aliens who will enslave us all under
> their
> A A A insectoid
> A A A A A A collective hive mind to further expand their
> exploitive
> A A A galactic
> A A A A A A commerce. A This may be just what we deserve.
> A A A A A A This planet is far too beautiful for the likes of us.
> A A A A A A Get in your Pantera and drive it while you still can.
> A A A A A A Sent using Hushmail
> A A A A A On 30 July, 2014 at 7:32 AM, "Boyd Casey"
> <[2][3]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> A A wrote:
> A A A A A A A NPC. New Boeing spy plane
> A A A A A A A I
> A A A A A A A A *Boeing's New Spy Plane*
> A A A A A A A A *Wingspan*:
> A A A A A A A A 150 ft (46 m)
> A A A A A A A A *Takeoff gross weight*:
> A A A A A A A A 9,800 lbs (4,445 kg)
> A A A A A A A A *Cruise speed*:
> A A A A A A A A 150 kts
> A A A A A A A A *Maximum speed*:
> A A A A A A A A 200 kts
> A A A A A A A A *Altitude*:
> A A A A A A A A 65,000 ft
> A A A A A A A A *Engines*:
> A A A A A A A A (2) 2.3L 150 horsepower
> A A A A A A A A *Endurance*:
> A A A A A A A 4 days at 65,000 ft
> A A A A A A A A *Let that sink in -*
> A A A A A A A A *Wingspan equal to the width of a good size
> building lot.*
> A A A A A A A A *It's relatively light (at 5 ton), slow, flies at
> twice the
> A A A altitude
> A A A A A A A A of
> A A A A A A A A commercial transport.*
> A A A A A A A A *It's powered by the equivalent of 2 compact car
> engines and
> A A A stays
> A A A A A A A A aloft
> A A A A A A A A for 4 days.*
> A A A A A A A A *Now take a look*
> A A A A A A A A New Spy Plane
> A A A A A A
> A A A A
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At 65,000 ft I don't see this plane doing much "spying" at least not
against an "enemy" but Will makes an excellent point. Most of the
technologies we take for granted today were first developed for other
uses , a very substantial number of them were military,Like the
Internet!
I can see this technology serving many useful purposes , like border
monitoring, meteorological research and the clean energy aspects are
boundless. And while in it's current form this aircraft can stay
airborne for 4 days but the goal is TEN! Ten days airborne would be
really impressive!
Boyd
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Himes, Terry (397C)
<[1]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
Useful "Defensive" operation for US borders? A Dunno
"SometimesA IA think the surest signs that intelligent lifeA
A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
A to contact us!"
Terry W. HimesA [cid:E4BF7058-89CE-4E9C-9FD7-2A122CA0979C]
JPLA Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: [2](818) 393-6261
Cell:A A A A [3](818) 653-8213
Fax:A A A A [4](818) 393-3147
[5]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
d--od-,
From: Will Kooiman <[6]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:31 PM
To: Boyd Casey <[7]boyd411 at gmail.com>, Rob Dumoulin
<[8]rob at dumoulins.net>
Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[9]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Check this new plane out!
Interesting.
It could have several applications beyond being a spy plane.A A The
altitude
and time in the air are impressive.
Remember, most inventions were supposed to be something else.
Thomas Edison invented a pen that would perforate paper to create a
stencil.A A The stencil was later used to silk screen copies.A A This
was
before carbon paper, and copies were tedious.A A Everything was
basically
done 2 or 3 times.
His invention was too bulky, though.A A Nobody wanted to use it.
It was later adapted to tattooing, and the design is still used today.
On 7/31/14, 6:22 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[10]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
A A Personally I don't"get it". This plane doesn't carry weapons. I am
not
A A a pacifist , but I'm also not a war monger. I thought this was a
cool
A A piece of technology. Powered by two 150 hp engines , runs on
hydrogen,
A A 0 emissions and stays airborne @ 65,000 ft for 4 days. I don't A
who
A A "audionut" is I have never seen A a post by him before. But I feel
at
A A least part of his name is well chosen!
A A Boyd
A A On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Rob Dumoulin
<[1][11]rob at dumoulins.net>
A A wrote:
A A A A AA A A Not to perpetuate a flame war, but I'd rather see the
alien or
A A A A caveman
A A A A AA A A carrying the "club" before somebody I know gets hit by
it.
A A A A AA A A I did like the War Pigs reference......one of Ozzy's
best. A
A A A A Let's talk
A A A A AA A A music instead :)
A A A A AA A A RobA
A A A A AA A A On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:05 PM,
<[1][2][12]audionut at hushmail.com>
A A A A wrote:
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A Whoopee.
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A More sinister toys created by and for War
Pigs.
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A Oh well...... world domination through fear
of death
A A A A and
A A A A AA A AA A A destruction =
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A peace, right?
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A Modern enlightened humanity? A Or are we
still cavemen
A A A A bashing
A A A A AA A AA A A each
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A other's skulls, albeit with highly
technologically
A A A A advanced
A A A A AA A AA A A bones.
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A ...........................
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A Bring on the aliens who will enslave us all
under
A A A A their
A A A A AA A AA A A insectoid
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A collective hive mind to further expand their
A A A A exploitive
A A A A AA A AA A A galactic
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A commerce. A This may be just what we
deserve.
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A This planet is far too beautiful for the
likes of us.
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A Get in your Pantera and drive it while you
still can.
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A Sent using Hushmail
A A A A AA A A A A A On 30 July, 2014 at 7:32 AM, "Boyd Casey"
A A A A <[2][3][13]boyd411 at gmail.com>
A A A A AA A A wrote:
A A A A AA A A A A A A A NPC. New Boeing spy plane
A A A A AA A A A A A A A I
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A *Boeing's New Spy Plane*
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A *Wingspan*:
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A 150 ft (46 m)
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A *Takeoff gross weight*:
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A 9,800 lbs (4,445 kg)
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A *Cruise speed*:
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A 150 kts
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A *Maximum speed*:
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A 200 kts
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A *Altitude*:
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A 65,000 ft
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A *Engines*:
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A (2) 2.3L 150 horsepower
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A *Endurance*:
A A A A AA A A A A A A A 4 days at 65,000 ft
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A *Let that sink in -*
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A *Wingspan equal to the width of a good
size
A A A A building lot.*
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A *It's relatively light (at 5 ton), slow,
flies at
A A A A twice the
A A A A AA A AA A A altitude
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A of
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A commercial transport.*
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A *It's powered by the equivalent of 2
compact car
A A A A engines and
A A A A AA A AA A A stays
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A aloft
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A for 4 days.*
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A *Now take a look*
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A A A New Spy Plane
A A A A AA A AA A A A A A
A A A A AA A AA A A A
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