[DeTomaso] Fwd: Check this new plane out!

Himes, Terry (397C) terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Thu Jul 31 21:12:44 EDT 2014


Useful "Defensive" operation for US borders?  Dunno


"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
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From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>
Date: Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:31 PM
To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com<mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com>>, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>
Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Check this new plane out!

Interesting.

It could have several applications beyond being a spy plane.  The altitude
and time in the air are impressive.

Remember, most inventions were supposed to be something else.

Thomas Edison invented a pen that would perforate paper to create a
stencil.  The stencil was later used to silk screen copies.  This was
before carbon paper, and copies were tedious.  Everything was basically
done 2 or 3 times.

His invention was too bulky, though.  Nobody wanted to use it.

It was later adapted to tattooing, and the design is still used today.


On 7/31/14, 6:22 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com<mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com>> wrote:

   Personally I don't"get it". This plane doesn't carry weapons. I am not
   a pacifist , but I'm also not a war monger. I thought this was a cool
   piece of technology. Powered by two 150 hp engines , runs on hydrogen,
   0 emissions and stays airborne @ 65,000 ft for 4 days. I don't A who
   "audionut" is I have never seen A a post by him before. But I feel at
   least part of his name is well chosen!
   Boyd

   On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[1]rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>
   wrote:

     A  A Not to perpetuate a flame war, but I'd rather see the alien or
     caveman
     A  A carrying the "club" before somebody I know gets hit by it.
     A  A I did like the War Pigs reference......one of Ozzy's best. A
     Let's talk
     A  A music instead :)
     A  A RobA
     A  A On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:05 PM, <[1][2]audionut at hushmail.com<mailto:audionut at hushmail.com>>
     wrote:
     A  A  A A A A Whoopee.
     A  A  A A A A More sinister toys created by and for War Pigs.
     A  A  A A A A Oh well...... world domination through fear of death
     and
     A  A  A destruction =
     A  A  A A A A peace, right?
     A  A  A A A A Modern enlightened humanity? A Or are we still cavemen
     bashing
     A  A  A each
     A  A  A A A A other's skulls, albeit with highly technologically
     advanced
     A  A  A bones.
     A  A  A A A A ...........................
     A  A  A A A A Bring on the aliens who will enslave us all under
     their
     A  A  A insectoid
     A  A  A A A A collective hive mind to further expand their
     exploitive
     A  A  A galactic
     A  A  A A A A commerce. A This may be just what we deserve.
     A  A  A A A A This planet is far too beautiful for the likes of us.
     A  A  A A A A Get in your Pantera and drive it while you still can.
     A  A  A A A A Sent using Hushmail
     A  A A A A On 30 July, 2014 at 7:32 AM, "Boyd Casey"
     <[2][3]boyd411 at gmail.com<mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com>>
     A  A wrote:
     A  A A A A A A NPC. New Boeing spy plane
     A  A A A A A A I
     A  A  A A A A A A *Boeing's New Spy Plane*
     A  A  A A A A A A *Wingspan*:
     A  A  A A A A A A 150 ft (46 m)
     A  A  A A A A A A *Takeoff gross weight*:
     A  A  A A A A A A 9,800 lbs (4,445 kg)
     A  A  A A A A A A *Cruise speed*:
     A  A  A A A A A A 150 kts
     A  A  A A A A A A *Maximum speed*:
     A  A  A A A A A A 200 kts
     A  A  A A A A A A *Altitude*:
     A  A  A A A A A A 65,000 ft
     A  A  A A A A A A *Engines*:
     A  A  A A A A A A (2) 2.3L 150 horsepower
     A  A  A A A A A A *Endurance*:
     A  A A A A A A 4 days at 65,000 ft
     A  A  A A A A A A *Let that sink in -*
     A  A  A A A A A A *Wingspan equal to the width of a good size
     building lot.*
     A  A  A A A A A A *It's relatively light (at 5 ton), slow, flies at
     twice the
     A  A  A altitude
     A  A  A A A A A A of
     A  A  A A A A A A commercial transport.*
     A  A  A A A A A A *It's powered by the equivalent of 2 compact car
     engines and
     A  A  A stays
     A  A  A A A A A A aloft
     A  A  A A A A A A for 4 days.*
     A  A  A A A A A A *Now take a look*
     A  A  A A A A A A New Spy Plane
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   Useful "Defensive" operation for US borders?  Dunno

   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life

     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried

     to contact us!"

   Terry W. Himes  [cid:E4BF7058-89CE-4E9C-9FD7-2A122CA0979C]

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead

   Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead

   Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:     (818) 653-8213

   Fax:     (818) 393-3147

   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   From: Will Kooiman <[2]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   Date: Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:31 PM
   To: Boyd Casey <[3]boyd411 at gmail.com>, Rob Dumoulin
   <[4]rob at dumoulins.net>
   Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: Check this new plane out!

   Interesting.
   It could have several applications beyond being a spy plane.  The
   altitude
   and time in the air are impressive.
   Remember, most inventions were supposed to be something else.
   Thomas Edison invented a pen that would perforate paper to create a
   stencil.  The stencil was later used to silk screen copies.  This was
   before carbon paper, and copies were tedious.  Everything was basically
   done 2 or 3 times.
   His invention was too bulky, though.  Nobody wanted to use it.
   It was later adapted to tattooing, and the design is still used today.
   On 7/31/14, 6:22 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[6]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:

      Personally I don't"get it". This plane doesn't carry weapons. I am
   not

      a pacifist , but I'm also not a war monger. I thought this was a
   cool

      piece of technology. Powered by two 150 hp engines , runs on
   hydrogen,

      0 emissions and stays airborne @ 65,000 ft for 4 days. I don't A who

      "audionut" is I have never seen A a post by him before. But I feel
   at

      least part of his name is well chosen!

      Boyd

      On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Rob Dumoulin
   <[1][7]rob at dumoulins.net>

      wrote:

        A  A Not to perpetuate a flame war, but I'd rather see the alien
   or

        caveman

        A  A carrying the "club" before somebody I know gets hit by it.

        A  A I did like the War Pigs reference......one of Ozzy's best. A

        Let's talk

        A  A music instead :)

        A  A RobA

        A  A On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:05 PM,
   <[1][2][8]audionut at hushmail.com>

        wrote:

        A  A  A A A A Whoopee.

        A  A  A A A A More sinister toys created by and for War Pigs.

        A  A  A A A A Oh well...... world domination through fear of death

        and

        A  A  A destruction =

        A  A  A A A A peace, right?

        A  A  A A A A Modern enlightened humanity? A Or are we still
   cavemen

        bashing

        A  A  A each

        A  A  A A A A other's skulls, albeit with highly technologically

        advanced

        A  A  A bones.

        A  A  A A A A ...........................

        A  A  A A A A Bring on the aliens who will enslave us all under

        their

        A  A  A insectoid

        A  A  A A A A collective hive mind to further expand their

        exploitive

        A  A  A galactic

        A  A  A A A A commerce. A This may be just what we deserve.

        A  A  A A A A This planet is far too beautiful for the likes of
   us.

        A  A  A A A A Get in your Pantera and drive it while you still
   can.

        A  A  A A A A Sent using Hushmail

        A  A A A A On 30 July, 2014 at 7:32 AM, "Boyd Casey"

        <[2][3][9]boyd411 at gmail.com>

        A  A wrote:

        A  A A A A A A NPC. New Boeing spy plane

        A  A A A A A A I

        A  A  A A A A A A *Boeing's New Spy Plane*

        A  A  A A A A A A *Wingspan*:

        A  A  A A A A A A 150 ft (46 m)

        A  A  A A A A A A *Takeoff gross weight*:

        A  A  A A A A A A 9,800 lbs (4,445 kg)

        A  A  A A A A A A *Cruise speed*:

        A  A  A A A A A A 150 kts

        A  A  A A A A A A *Maximum speed*:

        A  A  A A A A A A 200 kts

        A  A  A A A A A A *Altitude*:

        A  A  A A A A A A 65,000 ft

        A  A  A A A A A A *Engines*:

        A  A  A A A A A A (2) 2.3L 150 horsepower

        A  A  A A A A A A *Endurance*:

        A  A A A A A A 4 days at 65,000 ft

        A  A  A A A A A A *Let that sink in -*

        A  A  A A A A A A *Wingspan equal to the width of a good size

        building lot.*

        A  A  A A A A A A *It's relatively light (at 5 ton), slow, flies
   at

        twice the

        A  A  A altitude

        A  A  A A A A A A of

        A  A  A A A A A A commercial transport.*

        A  A  A A A A A A *It's powered by the equivalent of 2 compact car

        engines and

        A  A  A stays

        A  A  A A A A A A aloft

        A  A  A A A A A A for 4 days.*

        A  A  A A A A A A *Now take a look*

        A  A  A A A A A A New Spy Plane

        A  A  A A A A

        A  A  A A


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