[DeTomaso] FW: Moment of (sad) truth

michael at michaelshortt.com michael at michaelshortt.com
Fri Jul 18 08:05:01 EDT 2014


I had the same issue and it was the connector on the sender. Installed a
nrw end on the wire, problem solved.

Michael Shortt
On Jul 18, 2014 7:02 AM, "Charles McCall" <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:

>    I also have a mechanical gauge installed because I didn't like what my
>    stock pressure gauge was telling me. It was doing weird things that I
>    assumed couldn't be possible, such asA wildly fluctuating pressure. In
>    fact my real pressure is rock solid as indicated by the mechanical
>    gauge.
>    A
>    Another data point that the stock gauge may get flaky on you and lead
>    you to incorrect assumptions
>    A
>    A
>
>    On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Andy May <[1]andymay24 at gmail.com>
>    wrote:
>
>      A  A Robert,
>      A  A Don't make the assumption that your oil gauge indication bears
>      any
>      A  A relationship to what oil pressure you actually have at the
>      engine!
>      A  A Speaking from personal experience, the problem may very well be
>      the oil
>      A  A pressure sender. Mine was jumping around all over - especially
>      when hot
>      A  A - which I could not understand with my reasonably freshly built
>      engine.
>      A  A I replaced the electrical sender (a standard ford part) and
>      also fitted
>      A  A an additional mechanical gauge via a T-connector just as a
>      means of
>      A  A "positive checking" as I had lost confidence in the electrical
>      one.
>      A  A Result - 55psi normal running and 40-45psi hot idle on the
>      mechanical
>      A  A gauge and a much happier owner! The standard pantera gauge
>      continues to
>      A  A present an approximation of pressure, but at least now its a
>      pretty
>      A  A stable approximation!
>      A  A I suggest you hook up a mechanical gauge and check your oil
>      pressure
>      A  A with this before you tear into the motor.
>      A  A Kind regards
>      A  A Andy
>      A  A On Jul 18, 2014 9:47 AM, "Robert Stroj" <[1][2]npdrs at maui.net>
>      wrote:
>      A  A  A Hi Sean,
>      A  A  A Yes, as you pointed out it is a real problem that I don't
>      have the
>      A  A  A specs.
>      A  A  A As well, looking at the price, it seems to me that they
>      might not be
>      A  A  A Solid Rollers; that price looks like it would fit to regular
>      solid
>      A  A  A flat tappet lifters?
>      A  A  A I got all the original receipts with the car and tried to
>      call
>      A  A  A vendor of the cam to find out if he might have somewhere any
>      spec,
>      A  A  A but based on receipt it was not possible to find
>      anything...it is 10
>      A  A  A years past since they were purchased; same was the situation
>      with
>      A  A  A the head, so I do not know which SS valves are used, spring
>      rates or
>      A  A  A which roller rockers are installed.
>      A  A  A I guess, first I need to check if my bearings are OK as I
>      really
>      A  A  A have a bad feeling with oil pressure showing really low when
>      engine
>      A  A  A is hot.
>      A  A  A Is there any way to check that short of pulling the motor
>      out and
>      A  A  A opening the bottom; guess not?
>      A  A  A Thanks, Robert
>      A  A  A -----Original Message-----
>      A  A  A From: Sean Korb [mailto:[2][3]spkorb at gmail.com]
>      A  A  A Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 9:01 AM
>      A  A  A To: [3][4]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Moment of (sad) truth
>      A  A  A It's hard to tell with a custom grind Isky. A They make a
>      lot of
>      A  A  A pretty interesting flat tappet camshafts but I'm not
>      familiar with
>      A  A  A their roller line. A If you don't have a cam card you really
>      should
>      A  A  A make your own and get the specification. A A degree wheel
>      and
>      A  A  A removing the front accessories and water pump is kind of a
>      pain but
>      A  A  A it really needs to be done.
>      A  A  A That said, you can find TDC without doing all that work. A
>      Just pull
>      A  A  A a spark plug on #1 and find it. A Make sure it matches your
>      harmonic
>      A  A  A balancer. A It does sound like timing since you are having
>      trouble
>      A  A  A starting it when it is hot,
>      A  A  A My stock 1971 motor made 255HP at the wheels. A Hydraulic
>      stock
>      A  A  A grind on the camshaft and 10.5:1 compression with stock
>      heads. A The
>      A  A  A CHI heads *could* give you more power but unless you know
>      your
>      A  A  A camshaft will take advantage of it, the stock heads are
>      already
>      A  A  A pretty darn good and you won't see that much with just a
>      head swap.
>      A  A  A A If you are running something like 0.055 lift or better
>      with
>      A  A  A aggressive duration, you should really be getting more power
>      and it
>      A  A  A would be carburetor and timing to check next.
>      A  A  A Oh hey! A You're running solid rollers? A Maybe your tappet
>      A  A  A clearance should be adjusted. A If they are running really
>      loose
>      A  A  A that would rob you of a lot of power. A It would make a lot
>      of noise
>      A  A  A too.
>      A  A  A sean
>      A  A  A On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Robert Stroj
>      <[4][5]npdrs at maui.net>
>      A  A  A wrote:
>      A  A  A > A A A Hi,
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A First thanks to all for your suggestions and sorry
>      for delay
>      A  A  A on coming
>      A  A  A > A A A back; was two weeks traveling without the internet
>      A  A  A connection.
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A My engine is not the one that was in the car; it is
>      a A 4
>      A  A  A bolt 351C,
>      A  A  A > A A A here are all the engine A spec as I got them from a
>      previous
>      A  A  A owner:
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Engine
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A CUI A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A : A A A A A
>      A A A A A 351 Cleveland
>      A  A  A 4V
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Heads A : A A A A A A A A A A Australian (3) valve
>      aluminum
>      A  A  A polished heads
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
>      A A A A A A A A
>      A  A  A A ($1,995)
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A : A
>      A A A A A A A A A Polish
>      A  A  A ($175)
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Intake A : A A A A A A A A A A Polished aluminum
>      Hi-Rise ($525)
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A : A
>      A A A A A A A A A Polish
>      A  A  A ($175)
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Carb A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A : A A A A A A A
>      A A A 780 CFM Holley
>      A  A  A 4-barrel carburetor
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
>      A A A A A A A A
>      A  A  A A ($512.99 Inc Shipping)
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Cable A A : A A A A A A A A A A PI MotorSport
>      Throttle Cable ($155)
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Valves : A A A A A A A A A A Stainless Steel
>      Exhaust/Intake valves
>      A  A  A ($900)
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Cam A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A : A A A A A A A
>      A A A ISKY Solid
>      A  A  A Roller Camshaft with Lifters
>      A  A  A > A A A ($275)
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
>      A A A A A A A A A A Custom
>      A  A  A grind
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Rockers A A A A A A A A A A : A A A A A A A A A
>      A Roller Rockers ($275)
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Chain A A : A A A A A A A A A A Duel Roller Chain
>      ($57)
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Exhaust A A A A A A A A A A : A A A A A A A A A
>      A GTS Coated Headers
>      A  A  A and Mufflers ($850)
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Water Pump: A A Aluminum High Flow ($208.65)
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Radiator A A A A A A A A A : A A A A A A A A A
>      A Aluminum Radiator
>      A  A  A Assembly Pantera
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
>      A A A A A A A A
>      A  A  A A Performance ($1,108.90)
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Starter : A A A A A A A A A A High Performance
>      Starter ($165)
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Oil Pan A A A A A A A A A A A : A A A A A A A A A
>      A 10 Quart oil pan
>      A  A  A with windage tray
>      A  A  A > A A A ($400)
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Ignition A A A A A A A A A A A : A A A A A A A A A
>      A Mallory Unilite
>      A  A  A Distributor, Mallory
>      A  A  A > A A A Coil, Mallory Spark
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
>      A A A A A A A A A A Plug
>      A  A  A Wires ($280)
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A What I am the most worried about is the thing that
>      car dies
>      A  A  A on idle
>      A  A  A > A A A after being driven hard and then it is really hard
>      to start;
>      A  A  A once did
>      A  A  A > A A A not start at all.
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A When hot like this it turns really hard, as if the
>      battery
>      A  A  A would be
>      A  A  A > A A A low, but when cold it turns really well; my worry is
>      that
>      A  A  A bearings
>      A  A  A > A A A could be really worn and once the oil gets thin it
>      increases
>      A  A  A the
>      A  A  A > A A A friction inside the engine.
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A The oil pressure gauge drops really low; when hot
>      idling it
>      A  A  A just jumps
>      A  A  A > A A A between 0 and 1/4 of the gauge.
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A It all looks like I will need to do a complete
>      rebuild and
>      A  A  A will be
>      A  A  A > A A A looking to see which are good parts that I could
>      successfully
>      A  A  A reuse;
>      A  A  A > A A A this is why Brent's motor configuration is really
>      interesting
>      A  A  A as it
>      A  A  A > A A A uses same heads and intake manifold.
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A I just got a lead to person that had a racing team
>      using
>      A  A  A Mustang in
>      A  A  A > A A A German Turing championship and is willing to help;
>      hope to
>      A  A  A meet him
>      A  A  A > A A A next week.
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A All the best, Robert
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A From: Pantdino [mailto:[5][6]pantdino at aol.com]
>      A  A  A > A A A Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 5:28 PM
>      A  A  A > A A A To: [6][7]boyd411 at gmail.com
>      A  A  A > A A A Cc: [7][8]npdrs at maui.net;
>      [8][9]bjbstewart at yahoo.com;
>      A  A  A [9][10]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Moment of (sad) truth
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A "Torque really means a lot more but the way the
>      engine runs
>      A  A  A and how the
>      A  A  A > A A A car drives is a lot more important then any dyne
>      numbers. "
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A HP is actually calculated from torque, and the HP
>      number the
>      A  A  A dyno guy
>      A  A  A > A A A gives you is so full of "correction factors" it has
>      to be
>      A  A  A taken with a
>      A  A  A > A A A grain of salt I think in terms of comparing it to
>      what
>      A  A  A someone else
>      A  A  A > A A A gets on different dyno in a different city on a
>      different day
>      A  A  A on a
>      A  A  A > A A A chassis vs engine dyno etc
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A -----Original Message-----
>      A  A  A > A A A From: Boyd Casey <[1][10][11]boyd411 at gmail.com>
>      A  A  A > A A A To: Pantdino <[2][11][12]pantdino at aol.com>
>      A  A  A > A A A Cc: npdrs <[3][12][13]npdrs at maui.net>; Brent Stewart
>      A  A  A <[4][13][14]bjbstewart at yahoo.com>;
>      A  A  A > A A A detomaso <[5][14][15]detomaso at poca.com>
>      A  A  A > A A A Sent: Tue, Jul 1, 2014 5:05 pm
>      A  A  A > A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Moment of (sad) truth
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Robert,
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Do you know if your 71 engine was the original
>      engine that
>      A  A  A came with
>      A  A  A > A A A your Pantera? (a numbers matching engine). Around
>      90% of the
>      A  A  A Cleveland
>      A  A  A > A A A engines made were not "high performance" engines.
>      This link
>      A  A  A explains
>      A  A  A > A A A how to help determine what type of engine yours was
>      A  A  A > A A A originally. [6]Cleveland guide A even though your
>      engine has
>      A  A  A good heads
>      A  A  A > A A A it may have low compression pistons. You will only
>      know what
>      A  A  A you
>      A  A  A > A A A actually have when you get inside your engine. In
>      the
>      A  A  A meantime you can
>      A  A  A > A A A do a compression check to make sure all your 8
>      cylinders have
>      A  A  A close to
>      A  A  A > A A A the same compression. You should also start with a
>      good tune
>      A  A  A up. make
>      A  A  A > A A A sure you have the right plugs, make sure your timing
>      is set
>      A  A  A correctly.
>      A  A  A > A A A Depending on your cam a 7550 CFM carb may be to big
>      for your
>      A  A  A engine (
>      A  A  A > A A A with a stock 351 ci displacement A and depending on
>      your
>      A  A  A pistons
>      A  A  A > A A A compression ratio and your cam 750 cfm may be to
>      big. Lots of
>      A  A  A people
>      A  A  A > A A A thing bigger is better. To big a carb will do much
>      more harm
>      A  A  A then good
>      A  A  A > A A A when it comes to losing power. A You also want to be
>      sure
>      A  A  A your carb is
>      A  A  A > A A A jetted and set properly. Getting the most out of an
>      engine is
>      A  A  A like
>      A  A  A > A A A navigating. You have to know where you are , before
>      you can
>      A  A  A figure out
>      A  A  A > A A A how to get where you want to go. So you have to know
>      what you
>      A  A  A have
>      A  A  A > A A A before you can figure out how to get the most out of
>      it! HP
>      A  A  A numbers are
>      A  A  A > A A A just numbers. Torque really means a lot more but the
>      way the
>      A  A  A engine
>      A  A  A > A A A runs and how the car drives is a lot more important
>      then any
>      A  A  A dyne
>      A  A  A > A A A numbers. You want a car wit good throttle response,
>      a car
>      A  A  A that revs up
>      A  A  A > A A A quickly when you hit the gas. Find a local mechanic
>      that
>      A  A  A knows
>      A  A  A > A A A Cleveland engines and preferably Panteras as well.
>      Figure out
>      A  A  A what you
>      A  A  A > A A A actually have and how to maximize it before you
>      start
>      A  A  A throwing money at
>      A  A  A > A A A it. There are lots of good books on how to build
>      Cleveland
>      A  A  A engines as
>      A  A  A > A A A well as some great web sites dedicated to Cleveland
>      engines.
>      A  A  A A Check out
>      A  A  A > A A A Clevelands forever (google it) or 351C.net. there
>      are also
>      A  A  A numerous
>      A  A  A > A A A books available at Amazon.com. You can also find
>      loads of
>      A  A  A free info on
>      A  A  A > A A A various forums on he web for free!
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Good Luck!
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A Boyd
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Pantdino via
>      DeTomaso
>      A  A  A > A A A <[7][15][16]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A It is a Holley vacuum secondary unit fitted by
>      Steve
>      A  A  A Wilkinson-- he
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A said jetted for a Pantera.
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A -----Original Message-----
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A From: Robert Stroj <[8][16][17]npdrs at maui.net>
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A To: 'Brent Stewart'
>      <[9][17][18]bjbstewart at yahoo.com>;
>      A  A  A detomaso
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A <[10][18][19]detomaso at poca.com>
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Sent: Tue, Jul 1, 2014 11:58 am
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Moment of (sad)
>      truth
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Hi Brent,
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Thanks a lot, this is really good info!
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A What carburetor are you using?
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Cheers,
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Robert
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A From: Brent Stewart
>      A  A  A [[1]mailto:[11][19][20]bjbstewart at yahoo.com]
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 5:32 AM
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A To: Robert Stroj;
>      [2][12][20][21]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Moment of (sad)
>      truth
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Hi Robert,
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A I have the same CHI heads and intake. A Here
>      are my build
>      A  A  A specs
>      A  A  A > A A A incase
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A you want to utilize those in an engine update:
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A ENGINE SPECS:
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Bennett Racing Dyno'd the engine and provided
>      the spec
>      A  A  A sheet. A The
>      A  A  A > A A A 351C
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A based 392 CID engine made 571 HP and 517 TQ @
>      5800 RPM.
>      A  A  A A Here are
>      A  A  A > A A A the
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A details of the build:
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Parts list
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A SCAT 3.85 Crankshaft,
>      internally balanced
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A SCAT 6.00 H Beam Rods
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Custom Ross Pistons
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Custom Bennett Racing
>      Hydraulic Roller Cam
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Superformance Balancer
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Crane Link Bar Hydraulic
>      Roller Lifters
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Comp Cams Pushrods
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Harland Sharp 4005 Roller
>      Rockers
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A CHI 228 3V aluminum Heads
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A CHI high-rise intake
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Build specs
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Bore: 4.030
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Crank: 3.850 9000 series
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Cam: 3018F-3039B 112
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A o A A Intake Lobe: 242 @ .050 .366 LL
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A o A A Exhaust Lobe: 250 @ .050 .363 LL
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A o A A Lobe Separation: 112
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Pushrods: 7.850 Comp Cams HD
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:06 AM, Robert Stroj
>      A  A  A > A A A <[1][3][13][21][22]npdrs at maui.net>
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A wrote:
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A So, finally, my '71 Pantera got through all
>      the import
>      A  A  A procedures
>      A  A  A > A A A and
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A is now
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A street legal in Europe/Germany!
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Car is in very good shape, zero rust anywhere,
>      suspension
>      A  A  A feels very
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A good to
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A drive (height adjustable koni set), brakes
>      work well
>      A  A  A (wilwood
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A conversion),
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A but there is something not right with the
>      motor.
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Engine is a older 351C rebuild using original
>      crankshaft
>      A  A  A and
>      A  A  A > A A A pistons.
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Some
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A years later it was fitted with CHI 3V heads
>      and intake
>      A  A  A system, SS
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A valves,
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A 780 Holley and GTS exhaust system.
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A When driving the cart was pulling well, but
>      definitely
>      A  A  A was not
>      A  A  A > A A A feeling
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A as
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A 400-500HP car; this is what I was sort of
>      expecting after
>      A  A  A talking to
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A person
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A who rebuild the engine as well as previous
>      owner...it did
>      A  A  A not really
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A feel as
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A 300HP car...
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A I had a chance to put it on the dyno at the
>      friend's
>      A  A  A garage and got
>      A  A  A > A A A the
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A following graph (please see the attached
>      image); this are
>      A  A  A graphs for
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A adjusted power on the flywheel after
>      recalculating looses
>      A  A  A between
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A engine and
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A wheels.
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A What was really interesting is that he had a
>      chance to
>      A  A  A test 2 other
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A panteras
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A recently; one was a client that had rebuilt
>      engine using
>      A  A  A some
>      A  A  A > A A A "special
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A parts", bt I am not sure of the actual spec
>      while the
>      A  A  A other one was
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A black
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A GR4 replica that is currently listed for sale
>      in Germany
>      A  A  A and was
>      A  A  A > A A A built
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A by
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Braun Motorsport:
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A
>      A  A  A A
>      [2][4][14][22][23]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pant
>      er
>      A  A  A a-gruppe-
>      A  A  A > A A A 4-m-his
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A t-strass
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A
>      A  A  A A
>      enzul-neuaufbau-neuried-bei-m%C3%BCnche/159513949.html?lang=de&pag
>      A  A  A eNumb
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A er=1&
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A
>      A  A  A A
>      __lp=1&scopeId=C&sortOption.sortBy=creationTime&sortOption.sortOrd
>      A  A  A er=DE
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A SCEND
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A
>      A  A  A A
>      ING&makeModelVariant1.makeId=7400&makeModelVariant1.searchInFreete
>      A  A  A xt=fa
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A lse&m
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A
>      A  A  A A
>      akeModelVariant2.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant3.searchIn
>      A  A  A Freet
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A ext=f
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A alse&ambitCountry=DE&negativeFeatures=EXPORT
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A So, finally, my engine did not even reach
>      250HP, another
>      A  A  A rebuild
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A pantera
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A motor did just over 300HP while Braun pantera
>      did very
>      A  A  A nice 389HP;
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A there is
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A also Ford GT40 with racing motor in there; it
>      did 410hp
>      A  A  A but at much
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A higher
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A RPM.
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A The most impressive about the Braun car is how
>      smooth the
>      A  A  A power
>      A  A  A > A A A curve
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A is.
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A So, now I am wondering where to go from here;
>      could it be
>      A  A  A that it is
>      A  A  A > A A A as
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A simple as wrong cam choice?
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A If going to do a rebuild is there a good
>      configuration
>      A  A  A someone could
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A suggest
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A that would use CHI3V heads and intake, as I
>      already got
>      A  A  A those?
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A As well, I had something strange happen twice
>      with the
>      A  A  A gearbox; it
>      A  A  A > A A A got
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A out
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A of the 3rd gear by itself; would someone know
>      if this
>      A  A  A could be due
>      A  A  A > A A A to
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A any
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A wrong linkage adjustment?
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Thanks, Robert
>      A  A  A > A A A A A
>      A _______________________________________________
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A DeTomaso mailing list
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A [3][5][15][23][24]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A A A A
>      A  A
>      A [4][6][16][24][25]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.c
>      om
>      A  A  A > A A A References
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A 1. [7]mailto:[17][25][26]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A 2.
>      A  A  A > A
>      A  A  A A
>      [8][18][26][27]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pantera
>      -g
>      A  A  A ruppe-4-m
>      A  A  A > A A A -hist-s
>      A  A  A > A A A trass
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A 3. [9]mailto:[19][27][28]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A 4.
>      A  A
>      A [10][20][28][29]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A _______________________________________________
>      A  A  A > A A A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>      A  A  A > A A A DeTomaso mailing list
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A [11][21][29][30]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A
>      A  A  A A
>      [12][22][30][31]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A A References
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A 1. mailto:[23][31][32]bjbstewart at yahoo.com?
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A 2. mailto:[24][32][33]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A 3. mailto:[25][33][34]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A 4.
>      A  A  A > A
>      A  A  A A
>      [26][34][35]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pantera-gr
>      up
>      A  A  A pe-4-m-hi
>      A  A  A > A A A s
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A 5. mailto:[27][35][36]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A 6.
>      A  A
>      A [28][36][37]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A 7. mailto:[29][37][38]npdrs at maui.net?
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A 8.
>      A  A  A > A
>      A  A  A A
>      [30][38][39]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pantera-gr
>      up
>      A  A  A pe-4-m-hi
>      A  A  A > A A A st-strass
>      A  A  A > A A A A A A 9. mailto:[31][39][40]DeTomaso at poca.com?
>      A  A  A > A A A A A 10.
>      A  A
>      A [32][40][41]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A A A A 11. mailto:[33][41][42]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A A A A 12.
>      A  A
>      A [34][42][43]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A A _______________________________________________
>      A  A  A > A A A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>      A  A  A > A A A DeTomaso mailing list
>      A  A  A > A A A [35][43][44]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A A
>      [36][44][45]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > References
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > A A A 1. mailto:[45][46]boyd411 at gmail.com
>      A  A  A > A A A 2. mailto:[46][47]pantdino at aol.com
>      A  A  A > A A A 3. mailto:[47][48]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  A  A > A A A 4. mailto:[48][49]bjbstewart at yahoo.com
>      A  A  A > A A A 5. mailto:[49][50]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A A 6.
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A
>      A [50][51]http://www.ebay.com/gds/Ford-351-Cleveland-Engines-Key-Fac
>      ts-Inf
>      A  A  A ormation-/10000000001410755/g.html
>      A  A  A > A A A 7. mailto:[51][52]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A A 8. mailto:[52][53]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  A  A > A A A 9. mailto:[53][54]bjbstewart at yahoo.com
>      A  A  A > A A 10. mailto:[54][55]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A 11. mailto:[55][56]bjbstewart at yahoo.com
>      A  A  A > A A 12. mailto:[56][57]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A 13. mailto:[57][58]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  A  A > A A 14.
>      A  A
>      A [58][59]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pantera-grup
>      pe-4-m
>      A  A  A -his
>      A  A  A > A A 15. mailto:[59][60]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A 16.
>      [60][61]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A 17. mailto:[61][62]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  A  A > A A 18.
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A
>      A [62][63]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pantera-grup
>      pe-4-m
>      A  A  A -hist-s
>      A  A  A > A A 19. mailto:[63][64]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A 20.
>      [64][65]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A 21. mailto:[65][66]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A 22.
>      [66][67]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A 23. mailto:[67][68]bjbstewart at yahoo.com
>      A  A  A > A A 24. mailto:[68][69]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A 25. mailto:[69][70]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  A  A > A A 26.
>      A  A
>      A [70][71]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pantera-grup
>      pe-4-m
>      A  A  A -his
>      A  A  A > A A 27. mailto:[71][72]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A 28.
>      [72][73]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A 29. mailto:[73][74]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  A  A > A A 30.
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A
>      A [74][75]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pantera-grup
>      pe-4-m
>      A  A  A -hist-strass
>      A  A  A > A A 31. mailto:[75][76]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A 32.
>      [76][77]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A 33. mailto:[77][78]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A 34.
>      [78][79]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A 35. mailto:[79][80]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > A A 36.
>      [80][81]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > _______________________________________________
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A > DeTomaso mailing list
>      A  A  A > [81][82]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A > [82][83]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A >
>      A  A  A --
>      A  A  A Sean Korb [83][84]spkorb at spkorb.org
>      [84][85]http://www.spkorb.org
>      A  A  A '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71
>      Pantera
>      A  A  A #1382 "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get"
>      --Miller
>      A  A  A "Computers are useless. A They can only give you answers."
>      -P.
>      A  A  A Picasso
>      A  A  A _______________________________________________
>      A  A  A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>      A  A  A DeTomaso mailing list
>      A  A  A [85][86]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A  A [86][87]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      References
>      A  A 1. mailto:[88]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  A 2. mailto:[89]spkorb at gmail.com
>      A  A 3. mailto:[90]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  A 4. mailto:[91]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  A 5. mailto:[92]pantdino at aol.com
>      A  A 6. mailto:[93]boyd411 at gmail.com
>      A  A 7. mailto:[94]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  A 8. mailto:[95]bjbstewart at yahoo.com
>      A  A 9. mailto:[96]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  10. mailto:[97]boyd411 at gmail.com
>      A  11. mailto:[98]pantdino at aol.com
>      A  12. mailto:[99]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  13. mailto:[100]bjbstewart at yahoo.com
>      A  14. mailto:[101]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  15. mailto:[102]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  16. mailto:[103]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  17. mailto:[104]bjbstewart at yahoo.com
>      A  18. mailto:[105]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  19. mailto:[106]bjbstewart at yahoo.com
>      A  20. mailto:[107]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  21. mailto:[108]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  22.
>      [109]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pantera-gruppe-
>      A  23. mailto:[110]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  24. [111]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  25. mailto:[112]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  26.
>      [113]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pantera-gruppe-4-
>      m
>      A  27. mailto:[114]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  28. [115]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  29. mailto:[116]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  30. [117]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  31. mailto:[118]bjbstewart at yahoo.com
>      A  32. mailto:[119]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  33. mailto:[120]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  34.
>      [121]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pantera-gruppe-4-
>      m-hi
>      A  35. mailto:[122]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  36. [123]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  37. mailto:[124]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  38.
>      [125]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pantera-gruppe-4-
>      m-hi
>      A  39. mailto:[126]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  40. [127]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  41. mailto:[128]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  42. [129]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  43. mailto:[130]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  44. [131]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  45. mailto:[132]boyd411 at gmail.com
>      A  46. mailto:[133]pantdino at aol.com
>      A  47. mailto:[134]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  48. mailto:[135]bjbstewart at yahoo.com
>      A  49. mailto:[136]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  50.
>      [137]http://www.ebay.com/gds/Ford-351-Cleveland-Engines-Key-Facts-In
>      formation-/10000000001410755/g.html
>      A  51. mailto:[138]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  52. mailto:[139]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  53. mailto:[140]bjbstewart at yahoo.com
>      A  54. mailto:[141]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  55. mailto:[142]bjbstewart at yahoo.com
>      A  56. mailto:[143]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  57. mailto:[144]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  58.
>      [145]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pantera-gruppe-4-
>      m-his
>      A  59. mailto:[146]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  60. [147]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  61. mailto:[148]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  62.
>      [149]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pantera-gruppe-4-
>      m-hist-s
>      A  63. mailto:[150]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  64. [151]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  65. mailto:[152]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  66. [153]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  67. mailto:[154]bjbstewart at yahoo.com
>      A  68. mailto:[155]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  69. mailto:[156]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  70.
>      [157]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pantera-gruppe-4-
>      m-his
>      A  71. mailto:[158]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  72. [159]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  73. mailto:[160]npdrs at maui.net
>      A  74.
>      [161]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pantera-gruppe-4-
>      m-hist-strass
>      A  75. mailto:[162]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  76. [163]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  77. mailto:[164]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  78. [165]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  79. mailto:[166]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  80. [167]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  81. mailto:[168]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  82. [169]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  83. mailto:[170]spkorb at spkorb.org
>      A  84. [171]http://www.spkorb.org/
>      A  85. mailto:[172]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  86. [173]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      _______________________________________________
>      Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
>      DeTomaso mailing list
>      [174]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      [175]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> References
>
>    1. mailto:andymay24 at gmail.com
>    2. mailto:npdrs at maui.net
>    3. mailto:spkorb at gmail.com
>    4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>    5. mailto:npdrs at maui.net
>    6. mailto:pantdino at aol.com
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   I had the same issue and it was the connector on the sender. Installed
   a nrw end on the wire, problem solved.

   Michael Shortt

   On Jul 18, 2014 7:02 AM, "Charles McCall" <[1]charlesmccall at gmail.com>
   wrote:

     A  A I also have a mechanical gauge installed because I didn't like
     what my
     A  A stock pressure gauge was telling me. It was doing weird things
     that I
     A  A assumed couldn't be possible, such asA wildly fluctuating
     pressure. In
     A  A fact my real pressure is rock solid as indicated by the
     mechanical
     A  A gauge.
     A  A A
     A  A Another data point that the stock gauge may get flaky on you
     and lead
     A  A you to incorrect assumptions
     A  A A
     A  A A
     A  A On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Andy May
     <[1][2]andymay24 at gmail.com>
     A  A wrote:
     A  A  A A A A Robert,
     A  A  A A A A Don't make the assumption that your oil gauge
     indication bears
     A  A  A any
     A  A  A A A A relationship to what oil pressure you actually have at
     the
     A  A  A engine!
     A  A  A A A A Speaking from personal experience, the problem may
     very well be
     A  A  A the oil
     A  A  A A A A pressure sender. Mine was jumping around all over -
     especially
     A  A  A when hot
     A  A  A A A A - which I could not understand with my reasonably
     freshly built
     A  A  A engine.
     A  A  A A A A I replaced the electrical sender (a standard ford
     part) and
     A  A  A also fitted
     A  A  A A A A an additional mechanical gauge via a T-connector just
     as a
     A  A  A means of
     A  A  A A A A "positive checking" as I had lost confidence in the
     electrical
     A  A  A one.
     A  A  A A A A Result - 55psi normal running and 40-45psi hot idle on
     the
     A  A  A mechanical
     A  A  A A A A gauge and a much happier owner! The standard pantera
     gauge
     A  A  A continues to
     A  A  A A A A present an approximation of pressure, but at least now
     its a
     A  A  A pretty
     A  A  A A A A stable approximation!
     A  A  A A A A I suggest you hook up a mechanical gauge and check
     your oil
     A  A  A pressure
     A  A  A A A A with this before you tear into the motor.
     A  A  A A A A Kind regards
     A  A  A A A A Andy
     A  A  A A A A On Jul 18, 2014 9:47 AM, "Robert Stroj"
     <[1][2][3]npdrs at maui.net>
     A  A  A wrote:
     A  A  A A A A A A Hi Sean,
     A  A  A A A A A A Yes, as you pointed out it is a real problem that
     I don't
     A  A  A have the
     A  A  A A A A A A specs.
     A  A  A A A A A A As well, looking at the price, it seems to me that
     they
     A  A  A might not be
     A  A  A A A A A A Solid Rollers; that price looks like it would fit
     to regular
     A  A  A solid
     A  A  A A A A A A flat tappet lifters?
     A  A  A A A A A A I got all the original receipts with the car and
     tried to
     A  A  A call
     A  A  A A A A A A vendor of the cam to find out if he might have
     somewhere any
     A  A  A spec,
     A  A  A A A A A A but based on receipt it was not possible to find
     A  A  A anything...it is 10
     A  A  A A A A A A years past since they were purchased; same was the
     situation
     A  A  A with
     A  A  A A A A A A the head, so I do not know which SS valves are
     used, spring
     A  A  A rates or
     A  A  A A A A A A which roller rockers are installed.
     A  A  A A A A A A I guess, first I need to check if my bearings are
     OK as I
     A  A  A really
     A  A  A A A A A A have a bad feeling with oil pressure showing
     really low when
     A  A  A engine
     A  A  A A A A A A is hot.
     A  A  A A A A A A Is there any way to check that short of pulling
     the motor
     A  A  A out and
     A  A  A A A A A A opening the bottom; guess not?
     A  A  A A A A A A Thanks, Robert
     A  A  A A A A A A -----Original Message-----
     A  A  A A A A A A From: Sean Korb [mailto:[2][3][4]spkorb at gmail.com]
     A  A  A A A A A A Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 9:01 AM
     A  A  A A A A A A To: [3][4][5]detomaso at poca.com
     A  A  A A A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Moment of (sad) truth
     A  A  A A A A A A It's hard to tell with a custom grind Isky. A They
     make a
     A  A  A lot of
     A  A  A A A A A A pretty interesting flat tappet camshafts but I'm
     not
     A  A  A familiar with
     A  A  A A A A A A their roller line. A If you don't have a cam card
     you really
     A  A  A should
     A  A  A A A A A A make your own and get the specification. A A
     degree wheel
     A  A  A and
     A  A  A A A A A A removing the front accessories and water pump is
     kind of a
     A  A  A pain but
     A  A  A A A A A A it really needs to be done.
     A  A  A A A A A A That said, you can find TDC without doing all that
     work. A
     A  A  A Just pull
     A  A  A A A A A A a spark plug on #1 and find it. A Make sure it
     matches your
     A  A  A harmonic
     A  A  A A A A A A balancer. A It does sound like timing since you
     are having
     A  A  A trouble
     A  A  A A A A A A starting it when it is hot,
     A  A  A A A A A A My stock 1971 motor made 255HP at the wheels. A
     Hydraulic
     A  A  A stock
     A  A  A A A A A A grind on the camshaft and 10.5:1 compression with
     stock
     A  A  A heads. A The
     A  A  A A A A A A CHI heads *could* give you more power but unless
     you know
     A  A  A your
     A  A  A A A A A A camshaft will take advantage of it, the stock
     heads are
     A  A  A already
     A  A  A A A A A A pretty darn good and you won't see that much with
     just a
     A  A  A head swap.
     A  A  A A A A A A A If you are running something like 0.055 lift or
     better
     A  A  A with
     A  A  A A A A A A aggressive duration, you should really be getting
     more power
     A  A  A and it
     A  A  A A A A A A would be carburetor and timing to check next.
     A  A  A A A A A A Oh hey! A You're running solid rollers? A Maybe
     your tappet
     A  A  A A A A A A clearance should be adjusted. A If they are
     running really
     A  A  A loose
     A  A  A A A A A A that would rob you of a lot of power. A It would
     make a lot
     A  A  A of noise
     A  A  A A A A A A too.
     A  A  A A A A A A sean
     A  A  A A A A A A On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Robert Stroj
     A  A  A <[4][5][6]npdrs at maui.net>
     A  A  A A A A A A wrote:
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Hi,
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A First thanks to all for your suggestions
     and sorry
     A  A  A for delay
     A  A  A A A A A A on coming
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A back; was two weeks traveling without the
     internet
     A  A  A A A A A A connection.
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A My engine is not the one that was in the
     car; it is
     A  A  A a A 4
     A  A  A A A A A A bolt 351C,
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A here are all the engine A spec as I got
     them from a
     A  A  A previous
     A  A  A A A A A A owner:
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Engine
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A CUI A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A : A
     A A A A
     A  A  A A A A A A 351 Cleveland
     A  A  A A A A A A 4V
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Heads A : A A A A A A A A A A Australian
     (3) valve
     A  A  A aluminum
     A  A  A A A A A A polished heads
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
     A A A A A
     A  A  A A A A A A A A A
     A  A  A A A A A A A ($1,995)
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
     A A A : A
     A  A  A A A A A A A A A A Polish
     A  A  A A A A A A ($175)
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Intake A : A A A A A A A A A A Polished
     aluminum
     A  A  A Hi-Rise ($525)
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
     A A A : A
     A  A  A A A A A A A A A A Polish
     A  A  A A A A A A ($175)
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Carb A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A : A A
     A A A A A
     A  A  A A A A 780 CFM Holley
     A  A  A A A A A A 4-barrel carburetor
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
     A A A A A
     A  A  A A A A A A A A A
     A  A  A A A A A A A ($512.99 Inc Shipping)
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Cable A A : A A A A A A A A A A PI
     MotorSport
     A  A  A Throttle Cable ($155)
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Valves : A A A A A A A A A A Stainless
     Steel
     A  A  A Exhaust/Intake valves
     A  A  A A A A A A ($900)
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Cam A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A : A A
     A A A A A
     A  A  A A A A ISKY Solid
     A  A  A A A A A A Roller Camshaft with Lifters
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A ($275)
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
     A A A A A
     A  A  A A A A A A A A A A A Custom
     A  A  A A A A A A grind
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Rockers A A A A A A A A A A : A A A A A A
     A A A
     A  A  A A Roller Rockers ($275)
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Chain A A : A A A A A A A A A A Duel
     Roller Chain
     A  A  A ($57)
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Exhaust A A A A A A A A A A : A A A A A A
     A A A
     A  A  A A GTS Coated Headers
     A  A  A A A A A A and Mufflers ($850)
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Water Pump: A A Aluminum High Flow
     ($208.65)
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Radiator A A A A A A A A A : A A A A A A A
     A A
     A  A  A A Aluminum Radiator
     A  A  A A A A A A Assembly Pantera
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
     A A A A A
     A  A  A A A A A A A A A
     A  A  A A A A A A A Performance ($1,108.90)
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     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Starter : A A A A A A A A A A High
     Performance
     A  A  A Starter ($165)
     A  A  A A A A A A >
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     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Oil Pan A A A A A A A A A A A : A A A A A
     A A A A
     A  A  A A 10 Quart oil pan
     A  A  A A A A A A with windage tray
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     A A A A
     A  A  A A Mallory Unilite
     A  A  A A A A A A Distributor, Mallory
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     A A A A A
     A  A  A A A A A A A A A A A Plug
     A  A  A A A A A A Wires ($280)
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A What I am the most worried about is the
     thing that
     A  A  A car dies
     A  A  A A A A A A on idle
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A after being driven hard and then it is
     really hard
     A  A  A to start;
     A  A  A A A A A A once did
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A not start at all.
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A When hot like this it turns really hard,
     as if the
     A  A  A battery
     A  A  A A A A A A would be
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A low, but when cold it turns really well;
     my worry is
     A  A  A that
     A  A  A A A A A A bearings
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A could be really worn and once the oil gets
     thin it
     A  A  A increases
     A  A  A A A A A A the
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A friction inside the engine.
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A The oil pressure gauge drops really low;
     when hot
     A  A  A idling it
     A  A  A A A A A A just jumps
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A between 0 and 1/4 of the gauge.
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A It all looks like I will need to do a
     complete
     A  A  A rebuild and
     A  A  A A A A A A will be
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A looking to see which are good parts that I
     could
     A  A  A successfully
     A  A  A A A A A A reuse;
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A this is why Brent's motor configuration is
     really
     A  A  A interesting
     A  A  A A A A A A as it
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A uses same heads and intake manifold.
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A I just got a lead to person that had a
     racing team
     A  A  A using
     A  A  A A A A A A Mustang in
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A German Turing championship and is willing
     to help;
     A  A  A hope to
     A  A  A A A A A A meet him
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A next week.
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A All the best, Robert
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A From: Pantdino
     [mailto:[5][6][7]pantdino at aol.com]
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 5:28 PM
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A To: [6][7][8]boyd411 at gmail.com
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Cc: [7][8][9]npdrs at maui.net;
     A  A  A [8][9][10]bjbstewart at yahoo.com;
     A  A  A A A A A A [9][10][11]detomaso at poca.com
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Moment of
     (sad) truth
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A "Torque really means a lot more but the
     way the
     A  A  A engine runs
     A  A  A A A A A A and how the
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A car drives is a lot more important then
     any dyne
     A  A  A numbers. "
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A HP is actually calculated from torque, and
     the HP
     A  A  A number the
     A  A  A A A A A A dyno guy
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A gives you is so full of "correction
     factors" it has
     A  A  A to be
     A  A  A A A A A A taken with a
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A grain of salt I think in terms of
     comparing it to
     A  A  A what
     A  A  A A A A A A someone else
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A gets on different dyno in a different city
     on a
     A  A  A different day
     A  A  A A A A A A on a
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A chassis vs engine dyno etc
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A -----Original Message-----
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A From: Boyd Casey
     <[1][10][11][12]boyd411 at gmail.com>
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A To: Pantdino
     <[2][11][12][13]pantdino at aol.com>
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Cc: npdrs <[3][12][13][14]npdrs at maui.net>;
     Brent Stewart
     A  A  A A A A A A <[4][13][14][15]bjbstewart at yahoo.com>;
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A detomaso
     <[5][14][15][16]detomaso at poca.com>
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Sent: Tue, Jul 1, 2014 5:05 pm
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Moment of
     (sad) truth
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Robert,
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Do you know if your 71 engine was the
     original
     A  A  A engine that
     A  A  A A A A A A came with
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A your Pantera? (a numbers matching engine).
     Around
     A  A  A 90% of the
     A  A  A A A A A A Cleveland
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A engines made were not "high performance"
     engines.
     A  A  A This link
     A  A  A A A A A A explains
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A how to help determine what type of engine
     yours was
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A originally. [6]Cleveland guide A even
     though your
     A  A  A engine has
     A  A  A A A A A A good heads
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A it may have low compression pistons. You
     will only
     A  A  A know what
     A  A  A A A A A A you
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A actually have when you get inside your
     engine. In
     A  A  A the
     A  A  A A A A A A meantime you can
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A do a compression check to make sure all
     your 8
     A  A  A cylinders have
     A  A  A A A A A A close to
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A the same compression. You should also
     start with a
     A  A  A good tune
     A  A  A A A A A A up. make
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A sure you have the right plugs, make sure
     your timing
     A  A  A is set
     A  A  A A A A A A correctly.
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Depending on your cam a 7550 CFM carb may
     be to big
     A  A  A for your
     A  A  A A A A A A engine (
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A with a stock 351 ci displacement A and
     depending on
     A  A  A your
     A  A  A A A A A A pistons
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A compression ratio and your cam 750 cfm may
     be to
     A  A  A big. Lots of
     A  A  A A A A A A people
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A thing bigger is better. To big a carb will
     do much
     A  A  A more harm
     A  A  A A A A A A then good
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A when it comes to losing power. A You also
     want to be
     A  A  A sure
     A  A  A A A A A A your carb is
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A jetted and set properly. Getting the most
     out of an
     A  A  A engine is
     A  A  A A A A A A like
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A navigating. You have to know where you are
     , before
     A  A  A you can
     A  A  A A A A A A figure out
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A how to get where you want to go. So you
     have to know
     A  A  A what you
     A  A  A A A A A A have
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A before you can figure out how to get the
     most out of
     A  A  A it! HP
     A  A  A A A A A A numbers are
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A just numbers. Torque really means a lot
     more but the
     A  A  A way the
     A  A  A A A A A A engine
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A runs and how the car drives is a lot more
     important
     A  A  A then any
     A  A  A A A A A A dyne
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A numbers. You want a car wit good throttle
     response,
     A  A  A a car
     A  A  A A A A A A that revs up
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A quickly when you hit the gas. Find a local
     mechanic
     A  A  A that
     A  A  A A A A A A knows
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Cleveland engines and preferably Panteras
     as well.
     A  A  A Figure out
     A  A  A A A A A A what you
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A actually have and how to maximize it
     before you
     A  A  A start
     A  A  A A A A A A throwing money at
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A it. There are lots of good books on how to
     build
     A  A  A Cleveland
     A  A  A A A A A A engines as
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A well as some great web sites dedicated to
     Cleveland
     A  A  A engines.
     A  A  A A A A A A A Check out
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Clevelands forever (google it) or
     351C.net. there
     A  A  A are also
     A  A  A A A A A A numerous
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A books available at Amazon.com. You can
     also find
     A  A  A loads of
     A  A  A A A A A A free info on
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A various forums on he web for free!
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Good Luck!
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A Boyd
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Pantdino
     via
     A  A  A DeTomaso
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A <[7][15][16][17]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A It is a Holley vacuum secondary unit
     fitted by
     A  A  A Steve
     A  A  A A A A A A Wilkinson-- he
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A said jetted for a Pantera.
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A -----Original Message-----
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A From: Robert Stroj
     <[8][16][17][18]npdrs at maui.net>
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A To: 'Brent Stewart'
     A  A  A <[9][17][18][19]bjbstewart at yahoo.com>;
     A  A  A A A A A A detomaso
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A <[10][18][19][20]detomaso at poca.com>
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Sent: Tue, Jul 1, 2014 11:58 am
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Moment
     of (sad)
     A  A  A truth
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Hi Brent,
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Thanks a lot, this is really good
     info!
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A What carburetor are you using?
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Cheers,
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Robert
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A From: Brent Stewart
     A  A  A A A A A A [[1]mailto:[11][19][20][21]bjbstewart at yahoo.com]
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 5:32 AM
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A To: Robert Stroj;
     A  A  A [2][12][20][21][22]detomaso at poca.com
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Moment
     of (sad)
     A  A  A truth
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Hi Robert,
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A I have the same CHI heads and
     intake. A Here
     A  A  A are my build
     A  A  A A A A A A specs
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A incase
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A you want to utilize those in an
     engine update:
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A ENGINE SPECS:
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Bennett Racing Dyno'd the engine and
     provided
     A  A  A the spec
     A  A  A A A A A A sheet. A The
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A 351C
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A based 392 CID engine made 571 HP and
     517 TQ @
     A  A  A 5800 RPM.
     A  A  A A A A A A A Here are
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A the
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A details of the build:
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Parts list
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A SCAT 3.85
     Crankshaft,
     A  A  A internally balanced
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A SCAT 6.00 H Beam
     Rods
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Custom Ross Pistons
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Custom Bennett
     Racing
     A  A  A Hydraulic Roller Cam
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Superformance
     Balancer
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Crane Link Bar
     Hydraulic
     A  A  A Roller Lifters
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Comp Cams Pushrods
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Harland Sharp 4005
     Roller
     A  A  A Rockers
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A CHI 228 3V aluminum
     Heads
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A CHI high-rise intake
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Build specs
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Bore: 4.030
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Crank: 3.850 9000
     series
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Cam: 3018F-3039B 112
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A o A A Intake Lobe: 242 @ .050 .366
     LL
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A o A A Exhaust Lobe: 250 @ .050 .363
     LL
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A o A A Lobe Separation: 112
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A . A A A A A A A Pushrods: 7.850 Comp
     Cams HD
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:06 AM,
     Robert Stroj
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A <[1][3][13][21][22][23]npdrs at maui.net>
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A wrote:
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A So, finally, my '71 Pantera got
     through all
     A  A  A the import
     A  A  A A A A A A procedures
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A and
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A is now
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A street legal in Europe/Germany!
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Car is in very good shape, zero rust
     anywhere,
     A  A  A suspension
     A  A  A A A A A A feels very
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A good to
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A drive (height adjustable koni set),
     brakes
     A  A  A work well
     A  A  A A A A A A (wilwood
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A conversion),
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A but there is something not right
     with the
     A  A  A motor.
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Engine is a older 351C rebuild using
     original
     A  A  A crankshaft
     A  A  A A A A A A and
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A pistons.
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Some
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A years later it was fitted with CHI
     3V heads
     A  A  A and intake
     A  A  A A A A A A system, SS
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A valves,
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A 780 Holley and GTS exhaust system.
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A When driving the cart was pulling
     well, but
     A  A  A definitely
     A  A  A A A A A A was not
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A feeling
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A as
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A 400-500HP car; this is what I was
     sort of
     A  A  A expecting after
     A  A  A A A A A A talking to
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A person
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A who rebuild the engine as well as
     previous
     A  A  A owner...it did
     A  A  A A A A A A not really
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A feel as
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A 300HP car...
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A I had a chance to put it on the dyno
     at the
     A  A  A friend's
     A  A  A A A A A A garage and got
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A the
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A following graph (please see the
     attached
     A  A  A image); this are
     A  A  A A A A A A graphs for
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A adjusted power on the flywheel after
     A  A  A recalculating looses
     A  A  A A A A A A between
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A engine and
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A wheels.
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A What was really interesting is that
     he had a
     A  A  A chance to
     A  A  A A A A A A test 2 other
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A panteras
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A recently; one was a client that had
     rebuilt
     A  A  A engine using
     A  A  A A A A A A some
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A "special
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A parts", bt I am not sure of the
     actual spec
     A  A  A while the
     A  A  A A A A A A other one was
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A black
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A GR4 replica that is currently listed
     for sale
     A  A  A in Germany
     A  A  A A A A A A and was
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A built
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A by
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Braun Motorsport:
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A > A
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     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A So, finally, my engine did not even
     reach
     A  A  A 250HP, another
     A  A  A A A A A A rebuild
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A pantera
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A motor did just over 300HP while
     Braun pantera
     A  A  A did very
     A  A  A A A A A A nice 389HP;
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A there is
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A also Ford GT40 with racing motor in
     there; it
     A  A  A did 410hp
     A  A  A A A A A A but at much
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A higher
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A RPM.
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A The most impressive about the Braun
     car is how
     A  A  A smooth the
     A  A  A A A A A A power
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A curve
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A is.
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A So, now I am wondering where to go
     from here;
     A  A  A could it be
     A  A  A A A A A A that it is
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A as
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A simple as wrong cam choice?
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A If going to do a rebuild is there a
     good
     A  A  A configuration
     A  A  A A A A A A someone could
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A suggest
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A that would use CHI3V heads and
     intake, as I
     A  A  A already got
     A  A  A A A A A A those?
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A As well, I had something strange
     happen twice
     A  A  A with the
     A  A  A A A A A A gearbox; it
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A got
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A out
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A of the 3rd gear by itself; would
     someone know
     A  A  A if this
     A  A  A A A A A A could be due
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A to
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A any
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A wrong linkage adjustment?
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A Thanks, Robert
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     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A 2.
     A  A  A A A A A A > A
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     A [8][18][26][27][28]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-p
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     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A 4.
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     om
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     .com
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     mailto:[23][31][32][33]bjbstewart at yahoo.com?
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     mailto:[24][32][33][34]detomaso at poca.com
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     A [26][34][35][36]http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/detomaso-pant
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     [28][36][37][38]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A A A A A 7.
     mailto:[29][37][38][39]npdrs at maui.net?
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     [50][51][52]http://www.ebay.com/gds/Ford-351-Cleveland-Engines-Key-F
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     A  A  A A A A A A > A A 18.
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     A  A  A A A A A A > A A 20.
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     A  A  A A A A A A > A A 26.
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     A  A  A A A A A A > A A 28.
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     A  A  A A A A A A > A A 29. mailto:[73][74][75]npdrs at maui.net
     A  A  A A A A A A > A A 30.
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     A  A  A A A A A A > A A 32.
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     A  A  A A A A A A > A A 34.
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     A  A  A A A A A A > A A 36.
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     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A >
     A  A  A A A A A A --
     A  A  A A A A A A Sean Korb [83][84][85]spkorb at spkorb.org
     A  A  A [84][85][86]http://www.spkorb.org
     A  A  A A A A A A '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60
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     answers."
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     A  A  A A A A A A Picasso
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     A  A  A A A A 2. mailto:[89][90]spkorb at gmail.com
     A  A  A A A A 3. mailto:[90][91]detomaso at poca.com
     A  A  A A A A 4. mailto:[91][92]npdrs at maui.net
     A  A  A A A A 5. mailto:[92][93]pantdino at aol.com
     A  A  A A A A 6. mailto:[93][94]boyd411 at gmail.com
     A  A  A A A A 7. mailto:[94][95]npdrs at maui.net
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     A  A  A A A A 9. mailto:[96][97]detomaso at poca.com
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     A  A  A A A 22.
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     A  A  A A A 86.
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