[DeTomaso] Goodbye TWS

Will Kooiman will.kooiman at gmail.com
Wed Jul 16 23:31:52 EDT 2014


You shied away?

If you¹re going to be a bear, be a grizzly.

Or my favorite:   If you¹re going to sh!t your pants, fill Œem full.

From:  Kirby Schrader <kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
Date:  Wednesday, July 16, 2014 at 2:28 PM
To:  Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
Cc:  Robert Pink <robpink2012 at gmail.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
<detomaso at poca.com>
Subject:  Re: [DeTomaso] Goodbye TWS

It is an SVO block, but it is cast iron.
OK, I may have been too liberal with the 'old' bit...
:-)

Nevertheless, it's an all iron engine. CVAR legal.
My new engine will have a very similar block, 4V iron heads with port
plates, T&D rockers and a bunch of other $$$$ stuff.
I shied away from his 14:1 compression ratio though....

Kirby



On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I thought he ran an SVO block.
> --
> Will
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/16/14 9:47 AM, "Kirby Schrader" <kirby.schrader at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> >   I clarified with Tom last night....
>> >   His rev limiter is set to 8800rpm.A
>> >   (In case you haven't heard a good old cast iron Ford V8 turning
>> >   8800rpm, I can attest to the fact that it makes the hairs on my arms
>> >   stand up....)
>> >   He bangs on the rev limiter in 4th at the end of the straight sometimes
>> >   depending on how well he gets out of Turn 15.
>> >   Using the good old ZF speed calculator spreadsheet.... with the Avon
>> >   slicks we both run.
>> >   That means, in theory, he's hitting 182mph.
>> >   FWIW,
>> >   Kirby
>> >
>> >   On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Robert Pink <[1]robpink2012 at gmail.com>
>> >   wrote:
>> >
>> >     I know in a stock Boxster S I easily hit 135. Them Panteras are
>> >     going much much faster.
>> >     On Tuesday, July 15, 2014, Kirby Schrader
>> >     <[2]kirby.schrader at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Neither of us have speedometers, but yesa| based on tire size
>> >     (same), gear ratios (same) and rpm, over 170.
>> >     Tom never uses 5th. In fact, he has it locked out.
>> >     I do use 5th on the straight.
>> >     But Tom's engine will turn 8500rpma|
>> >
>> >   On Jul 14, 2014, at 21:21, John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
>> >   wrote:
>>> >   > I did mean era, not error. A :^) A I believe the speeds are in excess
>> >   of 170 at the end of the straight away.
>>> >   >
>>> >   > Perhaps Kirby could opine.
>>> >   >
>>> >   > JT
>>> >   > On 7/14/2014 9:02 PM, doug351c wrote:
>>>> >   >> Have we heard what top speeds they hit?
>>>> >   >>
>>>> >   >> Doug Braun
>>>> >   >> blue 73L #5505
>>>> >   >>
>>>> >   >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >   >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of John
>>>> >   >> Taphorn
>>>> >   >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 6:48 PM
>>>> >   >> To: detomaso at POCA.com
>>>> >   >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Goodbye TWS
>>>> >   >>
>>>> >   >>
>>>> >   >> We are approaching the end of an error in Texas. A Acquired recently
>> >   by a
>>>> >   >> private equity firm, Texas World Speedway will be converted to a
>> >   planned
>>>> >   >> community in the near future. A Here is a clip of Tom Upton and
>> >   Kirby
>>>> >   >> Schrader tackling it with probably two of the fastest Panteras on
>> >   the
>>>> >   >> Planet. A Th road course is 2.9 miles in length. A The banked
>> >   section held
>>>> >   >> the closed course record for decades by Andretti at 230+mph.
>>>> >   >>
>> >
>>>> >     >> [3]Pantera on Pantera action @ TWS 12 July
>> >
>>>> >   >>
>>>> >   >> Sad to see it go.
>>>> >   >>
>>>> >   >> JT
>>>> >   >>
>>>> >   >>
>>> >   >
>>> >   >
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>> >References
>> >
>> >   1. mailto:robpink2012 at gmail.com
>> >   2. mailto:kirby.schrader at gmail.com
>> >   3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAHHeCkcdts&feature=youtu.be
>> >   4. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>> >   5. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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   You shied away?

   If you're going to be a bear, be a grizzly.

   Or my favorite:   If you're going to sh!t your pants, fill `em full.

   From: Kirby Schrader <[1]kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
   Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 at 2:28 PM
   To: Will Kooiman <[2]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   Cc: Robert Pink <[3]robpink2012 at gmail.com>, "[4]detomaso at poca.com"
   <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Goodbye TWS

   It is an SVO block, but it is cast iron.
   OK, I may have been too liberal with the 'old' bit...
   :-)
   Nevertheless, it's an all iron engine. CVAR legal.
   My new engine will have a very similar block, 4V iron heads with port
   plates, T&D rockers and a bunch of other $$$$ stuff.
   I shied away from his 14:1 compression ratio though....
   Kirby
   On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Will Kooiman
   <[6]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:

     I thought he ran an SVO block.
     --
     Will

   On 7/16/14 9:47 AM, "Kirby Schrader" <[7]kirby.schrader at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >   I clarified with Tom last night....

     >   His rev limiter is set to 8800rpm.A

   >   (In case you haven't heard a good old cast iron Ford V8 turning
   >   8800rpm, I can attest to the fact that it makes the hairs on my
   arms
   >   stand up....)
   >   He bangs on the rev limiter in 4th at the end of the straight
   sometimes
   >   depending on how well he gets out of Turn 15.
   >   Using the good old ZF speed calculator spreadsheet.... with the
   Avon
   >   slicks we both run.
   >   That means, in theory, he's hitting 182mph.
   >   FWIW,
   >   Kirby
   >

     >   On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Robert Pink
     <[1][8]robpink2012 at gmail.com>

   >   wrote:
   >
   >     I know in a stock Boxster S I easily hit 135. Them Panteras are
   >     going much much faster.
   >     On Tuesday, July 15, 2014, Kirby Schrader

     >     <[2][9]kirby.schrader at gmail.com> wrote:
     >
     >     Neither of us have speedometers, but yesa| based on tire size

   >     (same), gear ratios (same) and rpm, over 170.
   >     Tom never uses 5th. In fact, he has it locked out.
   >     I do use 5th on the straight.

     >     But Tom's engine will turn 8500rpma|

   >
   >   On Jul 14, 2014, at 21:21, John Taphorn
   <[10]jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
   >   wrote:

     >   > I did mean era, not error. A :^) A I believe the speeds are in
     excess

   >   of 170 at the end of the straight away.
   >   >
   >   > Perhaps Kirby could opine.
   >   >
   >   > JT
   >   > On 7/14/2014 9:02 PM, doug351c wrote:
   >   >> Have we heard what top speeds they hit?
   >   >>
   >   >> Doug Braun
   >   >> blue 73L #5505
   >   >>
   >   >> -----Original Message-----
   >   >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[11]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf
   Of John
   >   >> Taphorn
   >   >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 6:48 PM
   >   >> To: [12]detomaso at POCA.com
   >   >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Goodbye TWS
   >   >>
   >   >>

     >   >> We are approaching the end of an error in Texas. A Acquired
     recently

   >   by a
   >   >> private equity firm, Texas World Speedway will be converted to a
   >   planned

     >   >> community in the near future. A Here is a clip of Tom Upton
     and

   >   Kirby
   >   >> Schrader tackling it with probably two of the fastest Panteras
   on
   >   the

     >   >> Planet. A Th road course is 2.9 miles in length. A The banked

   >   section held
   >   >> the closed course record for decades by Andretti at 230+mph.
   >   >>
   >

     >     >> [3]Pantera on Pantera action @ TWS 12 July

   >
   >   >>
   >   >> Sad to see it go.
   >   >>
   >   >> JT
   >   >>
   >   >>
   >   >
   >   >
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     >References
     >
     >   1. mailto:[17]robpink2012 at gmail.com
     >   2. mailto:[18]kirby.schrader at gmail.com
     >   3.
     [19]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAHHeCkcdts&feature=youtu.be
     >   4. [20]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
     >   5. [21]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com

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References

   1. mailto:kirby.schrader at gmail.com
   2. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
   3. mailto:robpink2012 at gmail.com
   4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   6. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
   7. mailto:kirby.schrader at gmail.com
   8. mailto:robpink2012 at gmail.com
   9. mailto:kirby.schrader at gmail.com
  10. mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com
  11. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
  12. mailto:detomaso at POCA.com
  13. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  14. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  15. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  16. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  17. mailto:robpink2012 at gmail.com
  18. mailto:kirby.schrader at gmail.com
  19. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAHHeCkcdts&feature=youtu.be
  20. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  21. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  22. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  23. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com


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