[DeTomaso] Flare fitting question
Ken Green
kenn_green at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 11 11:47:25 EDT 2014
Is this it:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hose-Adaptor-Kit-convert-O-ring-CONDENSER-to-take-aircon-flare-hose-fittings-P53-/251139343159
Ken
From: Tom Shinrock via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
To: detomaso at poca.com
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 6:57 AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Flare fitting question
Well my A/C condenser was delivered on Wednesday (thanks again to Ken
Green) and I hooked it up that afternoon. I had the system charged up
with R-12 yesterday.
The shop said the car held vacuum for half a day. It was 84 deg and
sunny when they charged it and they said they were seeing 29 deg air at
the vents. When I made the short drive home, I was seeing 19 deg air
at the vents. I was in hog heaven thinking that I've finally cracked
the nut on my A/C.
I parked the car and proceeded to wipe off all the dust that had
accumulated on it over the last six weeks I've been waiting to get the
condenser. After I finished the outside of the car I went to wipe down
the engine bay (it's painted). I saw some very small droplets of
something on the edge of the fan shroud next to the condenser fitting
and when I went to wipe them off I could hear a faint hissing sound. I
called the shop and informed them of the sound and they said bring the
car back.
Side note.....My car had an aftermarket condenser on it when I bought
it which had the top fitting coming straight out of the condenser
(pointing to the right side of car). The prior owner had routed the
A/C hoses through the wheel wells so the hose fitting was made to mate
up with the top fitting coming straight out of the condenser.
The "OEM" condenser that Classic Condenser Specialists sells has the
top fitting of the condenser turned down. I didn't have enough hose
length to get to this down turned fitting, so when I had the original
condenser (that leaked) installed, the shop purchased a 90 degree AN
connector to get from the down turned fitting on the condenser to my
straight shot hose.
When I got back to the shop (about a ten minute drive) we opened the
deck lid and there was oil all over the AN connector where it connects
to the condenser. They quickly sucked out the remaining R-12 and
proceeded to look at the AN connector. At first they thought the
connector failed put when they unscrewed if from the condenser they saw
the the condenser fitting had a flare that was not what they expected
to see. At the end of the flare there is a shoulder at the end with an
O ring behind it. They wondered why it wasn't a straight flare. By
the way, the bottom condenser fitting was a straight flare.
I attached a picture of the flare in question. Can anybody tell me
what type of connector I need to match this fitting? I'm going to try
and get CCS to answer the phone and tell me what type of connector I
need but they haven't been answering my calls lately.
I'm still mystified why the system would hold vacuum and not show the
leak. If I can solve my leaking connector problem, I think I'm home
free.
Thanks
Tom
5186
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Is this it:
[1]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hose-Adaptor-Kit-convert-O-ring-CONDENSER
-to-take-aircon-flare-hose-fittings-P53-/251139343159
Ken
From: Tom Shinrock via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
To: detomaso at poca.com
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 6:57 AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] Flare fitting question
Well my A/C condenser was delivered on Wednesday (thanks again to Ken
Green) and I hooked it up that afternoon. I had the system charged
up
with R-12 yesterday.
The shop said the car held vacuum for half a day. It was 84 deg and
sunny when they charged it and they said they were seeing 29 deg air
at
the vents. When I made the short drive home, I was seeing 19 deg air
at the vents. I was in hog heaven thinking that I've finally cracked
the nut on my A/C.
I parked the car and proceeded to wipe off all the dust that had
accumulated on it over the last six weeks I've been waiting to get
the
condenser. After I finished the outside of the car I went to wipe
down
the engine bay (it's painted). I saw some very small droplets of
something on the edge of the fan shroud next to the condenser fitting
and when I went to wipe them off I could hear a faint hissing sound.
I
called the shop and informed them of the sound and they said bring
the
car back.
Side note.....My car had an aftermarket condenser on it when I bought
it which had the top fitting coming straight out of the condenser
(pointing to the right side of car). The prior owner had routed the
A/C hoses through the wheel wells so the hose fitting was made to
mate
up with the top fitting coming straight out of the condenser.
The "OEM" condenser that Classic Condenser Specialists sells has the
top fitting of the condenser turned down. I didn't have enough hose
length to get to this down turned fitting, so when I had the original
condenser (that leaked) installed, the shop purchased a 90 degree AN
connector to get from the down turned fitting on the condenser to my
straight shot hose.
When I got back to the shop (about a ten minute drive) we opened the
deck lid and there was oil all over the AN connector where it
connects
to the condenser. They quickly sucked out the remaining R-12 and
proceeded to look at the AN connector. At first they thought the
connector failed put when they unscrewed if from the condenser they
saw
the the condenser fitting had a flare that was not what they expected
to see. At the end of the flare there is a shoulder at the end with
an
O ring behind it. They wondered why it wasn't a straight flare. By
the way, the bottom condenser fitting was a straight flare.
I attached a picture of the flare in question. Can anybody tell me
what type of connector I need to match this fitting? I'm going to
try
and get CCS to answer the phone and tell me what type of connector I
need but they haven't been answering my calls lately.
I'm still mystified why the system would hold vacuum and not show the
leak. If I can solve my leaking connector problem, I think I'm home
free.
Thanks
Tom
5186
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