[DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads

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Wed Jul 9 16:29:42 EDT 2014 

X2.    The A-3s were the biggest-port SVO heads made (in 1982-'84) while all the others had smaller ports optimized for 355" NASCAR engines. If you're going for a stroker, the extra cubes will really like the big A-3 ports. The other option is to take whatever SVOs you can find and send them to a pro-porter with specific instructions as to what & how you're going to use them. They were all purposely cast with thick ports so they could be tailored to an engine. The porter I know lives in San Jose (Bob Gromm at Gromm Racing Heads) but they all do mail-order. Will NOT be a $100 job! 
 


Do the A3 heads.  You will like them.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>; Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 6:46 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads


Do the A3 heads.  You will like them.

On 7/8/14, 7:35 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:

>   I was able to get in touch with kelly and he has the parts left to
>   assemble another IR efi but his remaining manifold needs work. I have
>   also located a Pair of A3 heads and and SVO manifold with the correct
>   port size for A3 heads. So it looks like my problem will be resolved
>   one way or another. Thanks for every ones help.
>   Boyd
>
>   On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Corey Price <[1]coreyjprice at gmail.com>
>   wrote:
>
>     There's another Australian company that makes a Cleveland manifold
>     for the Weber IDA pattern but it's intended for 2V and 4V heads, not
>     raised port heads like the C302B heads. A The EFI Hardware manifold
>     is a good alternative to the Hall Pantera Weber IDA manifold for EFI
>     purposes.
>     [2]www.efihardware.com
>     Corey
>     Be prepared for sticker shock but they have good looking stuff. I
>     don't know too much more.
>
>   > On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Julian Kift <[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>   wrote:
>   >
>   > A  AussieSpeed make a Cleveland Weber IDF pattern manifold
>   (reproduction
>   > A  of the old Cain pattern) it is for 2V heads with enough material
>   to
>   > A  port to 4V, so you should be able to have it ported to match
>   C302B's if
>   > A  you are set on those heads. You can do the reverse and epoxy (or
>   weld)
>   > A  a 4V manifold to match or use port plates if you are set on an IDA
>   > A  pattern throttle body.
>   >
>   > A  As for heads I have heard really good reviews on Scott Cook's
>   heads,
>   > A  although CHI come a close second. Figure out your overall
>   investment
>   > A  for porting etc. versus just buying off the shelf bolt on
>   components
>   > A  and you might find it's better to list the C302B's on eBay.
>   >
>   > A  Julian
>   >
>   > A  From: [4]jjdetrich at gmail.com
>   > A  Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:42:32 -0500
>   > A  To: [5]will.kooiman at gmail.com
>   > A  CC: [6]detomaso at poca.com
>   > A  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
>   > There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI. I'm
>   not
>   > home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
>   >
>   > Jeff
>   >
>   >
>   > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman
>   <[7]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>   > wrote:
>   >
>   >> The only one I^1ve heard of is from Kinsler. A That^1s a stretch,
>   though. A I
>   >> believe it wasn^1t a Weber. A It was a full EFI.
>   >>
>   >> This post,
>   >>
>   [1][8]http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K3
>   51+all+C30
>   >> 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it
>   won^1t fit,
>   >> anyway.
>   >>
>   >> The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly Coffield,
>   but the
>   >> last I heard he wasn^1t doing it again.
>   >>
>   >>
>   >>> On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[9]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>   >>>
>   >>> A Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for Ford
>   C302b
>   >>> A heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these
>   heads but
>   >>> A have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3 heads
>   which
>   >>> A have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a port
>   width
>   >>> A of 1.25".
>   >>> A Thanks.
>   >>> A Boyd
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>   2. http://www.efihardware.com/
>   3. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>   4. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
>   5. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
>   6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>   7. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
>   8. 
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>   9. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
>  10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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   X2.    The A-3s were the biggest-port SVO heads made (in 1982-'84)
   while all the others had smaller ports optimized for 355" NASCAR
   engines. If you're going for a stroker, the extra cubes will really
   like the big A-3 ports. The other option is to take whatever SVOs you
   can find and send them to a pro-porter with specific instructions as to
   what & how you're going to use them. They were all purposely cast with
   thick ports so they could be tailored to an engine. The porter I know
   lives in San Jose (Bob Gromm at Gromm Racing Heads) but they all do
   mail-order. Will NOT be a $100 job!

Do the A3 heads.  You will like them.

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>; Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
   Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
   Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 6:46 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
Do the A3 heads.  You will like them.

On 7/8/14, 7:35 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:

>   I was able to get in touch with kelly and he has the parts left to
>   assemble another IR efi but his remaining manifold needs work. I have
>   also located a Pair of A3 heads and and SVO manifold with the correct
>   port size for A3 heads. So it looks like my problem will be resolved
>   one way or another. Thanks for every ones help.
>   Boyd
>
>   On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Corey Price <[1][2]coreyjprice at gmail.com>
>   wrote:
>
>     There's another Australian company that makes a Cleveland manifold
>     for the Weber IDA pattern but it's intended for 2V and 4V heads, not
>     raised port heads like the C302B heads. A The EFI Hardware manifold
>     is a good alternative to the Hall Pantera Weber IDA manifold for EFI
>     purposes.
>     [2][3]www.efihardware.com
>     Corey
>     Be prepared for sticker shock but they have good looking stuff. I
>     don't know too much more.
>
>   > On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Julian Kift <[3][4]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>   wrote:
>   >
>   > A  AussieSpeed make a Cleveland Weber IDF pattern manifold
>   (reproduction
>   > A  of the old Cain pattern) it is for 2V heads with enough material
>   to
>   > A  port to 4V, so you should be able to have it ported to match
>   C302B's if
>   > A  you are set on those heads. You can do the reverse and epoxy (or
>   weld)
>   > A  a 4V manifold to match or use port plates if you are set on an IDA
>   > A  pattern throttle body.
>   >
>   > A  As for heads I have heard really good reviews on Scott Cook's
>   heads,
>   > A  although CHI come a close second. Figure out your overall
>   investment
>   > A  for porting etc. versus just buying off the shelf bolt on
>   components
>   > A  and you might find it's better to list the C302B's on eBay.
>   >
>   > A  Julian
>   >
>   > A  From: [4][5]jjdetrich at gmail.com
>   > A  Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:42:32 -0500
>   > A  To: [5][6]will.kooiman at gmail.com
>   > A  CC: [6][7]detomaso at poca.com
>   > A  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
>   > There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI. I'm
>   not
>   > home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
>   >
>   > Jeff
>   >
>   >
>   > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman
>   <[7][8]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>   > wrote:
>   >
>   >> The only one I^1ve heard of is from Kinsler. A That^1s a stretch,
>   though. A I
>   >> believe it wasn^1t a Weber. A It was a full EFI.
>   >>
>   >> This post,
>   >>
>   [1][8][9]http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K3
>   51+all+C30
>   >> 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it
>   won^1t fit,
>   >> anyway.
>   >>
>   >> The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly Coffield,
>   but the
>   >> last I heard he wasn^1t doing it again.
>   >>
>   >>
>   >>> On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[9][10]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>   >>>
>   >>> A Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for Ford
>   C302b
>   >>> A heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these
>   heads but
>   >>> A have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3 heads
>   which
>   >>> A have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a port
>   width
>   >>> A of 1.25".
>   >>> A Thanks.
>   >>> A Boyd
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