[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 121, Issue 10

Jeffrey phillips jeffie8696 at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 9 15:12:28 EDT 2014


Looks like a Fiero
 
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>    1. Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Ken Green)
>    2. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (thomas)
>    3. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (bill gaino)
>    4. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Himes, Terry (397C))
>    5. Re: Pre Pantera Datsun Z cars was Dual Remote oil filters
>       (dave londry)
>    6. Re: Weber manifold for C302b heads (Jeff Detrich)
>    7. Any Pantera People/Activities in the Reston, VA area?
>       (Garth Rodericks)
>    8. Re: Weber manifold for C302b heads (Julian Kift)
>    9. Re: Weber manifold for C302b heads (Corey Price)
>   10. Re: Weber manifold for C302b heads (Boyd Casey)
>   11. Re: Any Pantera People/Activities in the Reston, VA area?
>       (Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar)
>   12. Re: Weber manifold for C302b heads (Will Kooiman)
>   13. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Will Kooiman)
>   14. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Sean Korb)
>   15. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Bill Moore)
>   16. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Boyd Casey)
>   17. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Will Kooiman)
>   18. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Pantdino)
>   19. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Boyd Casey)
>   20. Re: Inglese Versus Hilborn IR 8 Stack EFI or? (Ed Mendez)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 13:35:26 -0700
> From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
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>    291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
>    S_Cars_Trucks
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> References
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>    1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 22:45:58 +0200
> From: thomas <thomas at hax.se>
> To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
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> Like Mike should have said: "Kill it with fire!"
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> > 8 jul 2014 kl. 22:35 skrev Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>:
> > 
> >   [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
> >   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
> >   S_Cars_Trucks
> > 
> > References
> > 
> >   1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 17:02:14 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: bill gaino <gaino at earthlink.net>
> To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
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> Talk about a pig in a poke!  He should blast it .. then take pics. Jeez. Bill 1362
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> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> >Sent: Jul 8, 2014 4:35 PM
> >To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> >Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> >
> >   [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
> >   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
> >   S_Cars_Trucks
> >
> >References
> >
> >   1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 21:06:45 +0000
> From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> Message-ID: <CFE1AB60.59F59%thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
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> Butt-face ugly.  IHMO
> 
> 
> "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>   exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
>   to contact us!"
> 
> Terry W. Himes [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
> JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
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> ??
> 
> From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
> Reply-To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>>
> Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
> To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
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>    Butt-face ugly.  IHMO
> 
>    "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
> 
>      exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
> 
>      to contact us!"
> 
>    Terry W. Himes  [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
> 
>    JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> 
>    Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
> 
>    Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
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>    Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
> 
>    Phone: (818) 393-6261
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>    Cell:     (818) 653-8213
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>    Fax:     (818) 393-3147
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>    [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
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>    From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
>    Reply-To: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>    Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
>    To: detomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
>    Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> 
>    [5]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
>    291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
>    S_Cars_Trucks
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>    3. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
>    4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>    5. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 14:24:14 -0700
> From: dave londry <davel at emspace.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pre Pantera Datsun Z cars was Dual Remote oil
> 	filters
> Message-ID: <53BC617E.2030000 at emspace.com>
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> We run a 300zx (165hp) in a production class where it's mandated at 3230 
> lbs.
> It's sad there, but to get 2 of us some butt time we also run it in GT,
>   where it's sadly classed as GT1 and runs with the retired Cup cars.
> Stupid speed differential!
> 
> On 07/07/2014 7:07 AM, Robert Pink wrote:
> >     Well I had a 240Z back in high school but recently acquired a 240Z race
> >     car and second one in a shed. A Here is a picture of the car. A ( I am
> >     the one in front)A I hope to race vintage at CVAR. A Now i just need to
> >     find a way to stay out of the way of Tom Upton and Kirby's race
> >     Panteras that I hear often run in the same event due to a shortage of
> >     cars. A  Hem about 500hp difference and 50 MPH on the main straight at
> >     TWS - I will probably be staying low.
> >
> >     At least for now I have put too much work into the Pantera to put it on
> >     the track in any serious way.A
> >     On Monday, July 7, 2014, bill gaino <[1]gaino at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >       My 71 240 was orange with black louvers clear headlamp covers and a
> >       rear spoiler. Rebuilt engine with sythetic oil. I sold it for 4000
> >       cash, the buyer had 200 20 dollar bill. I bought my first piece of
> >       land with the proceeds and built my first home later.
> >       Bill 1362
> >       -----Original Message-----
> >       >From: Charles Engles <[2]cengles at cox.net>
> >       >Sent: Jul 7, 2014 8:07 AM
> >       >To: "'Himes, Terry (397C)'" <[3]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, 'Rob
> >       Dumoulin' <[4]rob at dumoulins.net>, 'Mikael'
> >       <[5]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>
> >       >Cc: [6]detomaso at poca.com, 'Pantera - Michael Shortt'
> >       <[7]michael at michaelshortt.com>
> >       >Subject: [DeTomaso] Pre Pantera Datsun Z cars was Dual Remote oil
> >       filters
> >       >
> >       >Dear Rob and Terry,
> >       >
> >       >
> >       > A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Interesting. A I owed a 260Z modified with
> >       headers and side draft Webers and suspension mods. A I then bought
> >       it a stable mate, a 280Z, for my dear wife. A Both were sold on the
> >       road to Panteras. A I saw a couple of Zs at Cars&Coffee Saturday.
> >       >
> >       >
> >       > A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> >       >
> >       >
> >       >
> >       >
> >       >-----Original Message-----
> >       >From: DeTomaso [mailto:[8]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> >       Himes, Terry (397C)
> >       >Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 9:16 PM
> >       >To: Rob Dumoulin; Mikael
> >       >Cc: [9]detomaso at poca.com; Pantera - Michael Shortt
> >       >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dual Remote oil filters
> >       >
> >       >Wow! A  Small world. I had a 280Z and sold it for a Porsche. A  No
> >       fancy toilet paper oil filter tho. A I got 256k
> >       >miles on mine and sold it for $500. A Then bought a Porsche 944.
> >       A When I bought the 280Z (1981) the guy had a beautiful A Pantera
> >       but would not budge from the $25,000. price tag (1981), was way to
> >       much for me. A That was in Philly. A Loved that Porsche, moved to
> >       Sandy Eggo and rolled it (several times) down an embankment in
> >       Rosarito, Mexico. A 4 beer story.
> >       >
> >       >Dr Elachi, Director of JPL, still drives his green 240Z to work
> >       every day. A He loves that car. A  It's kinda beat up and looks
> >       funny
> >       >parked in the "Director" A parking spot.
> >       >
> >       >
> >       >
> >       >"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
> >       > A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
> >       > A to contact us!"
> >       >
> >       >Terry W. Himes [cid:2CCD2A29-F833-46CD-9363-1D89E756830A]
> >       >JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> >       >Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
> >       >Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead Rosetta/MEX/VEX
> >       Sequence Team Lead
> >       >Phone: (818) 393-6261
> >       >Cell: A  A  (818) 653-8213
> >       >Fax: A  A  (818) 393-3147
> >       >[10]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[11]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> >       >d--od-,
> >       >
> >       >From: Rob Dumoulin
> >       <[12]rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:[13]rob at dumoulins.net>>
> >       >Date: Sunday, July 6, 2014 6:02 PM
> >       >To: Mikael
> >       <[14]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk<mailto:[15]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>>
> >       >Cc: "[16]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:[17]detomaso at poca.com>"
> >       <[18]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:[19]detomaso at poca.com>>, Pantera -
> >       Michael Shortt
> >       <[20]michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:[21]michael at michaelshortt.com>
> >       >
> >       >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dual Remote oil filters
> >       >
> >       >My 240Z had a secondary filter mounted on the fender wall. The
> >       filter was a roll of toilet paper lengthwise with feed and drain on
> >       top. It was set up so oil pooled in it rather than drained when
> >       motor was off. That way your pan always read accurate. It did not
> >       reduce oil pressure that I could notice and slowly filtered all the
> >       oil better than a regular filter. Car had over 250k miles when I
> >       sold her for a Porsche.
> >       >On Jul 6, 2014 1:36 PM, "Mikael"
> >       <[22]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk<mailto:[23]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>>
> >       wrote:
> >       >
> >       >Forgive my ignorance, but why two? Parallel or in series? In either
> >       case, what does this do to the pressure in the engine? All
> >       consequences understood?
> >       >
> >       >Mvh/Regards
> >       >Mikael
> >       >
> >       >-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> >       >Fra:
> >       [24]michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:[25]michael at michaelshortt.com>
> >       [mailto:[26]michael at michaelshortt.com]
> >       >Sendt: 3. juli 2014 01:57
> >       >Til: [27]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:[28]detomaso at poca.com>
> >       >Emne: [DeTomaso] Dual Remote oil filters
> >       >
> >       >Has anyone mounted dual remote oil filters upside down over the
> >       bellhousing before? A I'm thinking about it. The idea of two big
> >       Orange FL-1 and some more AN fittings and more aeroquip
> >       hose....hmmmmm tasty looking.
> >       > A I already have an oil cooler I would have to incorporate after
> >       filtering.
> >       >
> >       >Michael Shortt
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> >       >
> >       >
> >       >
> >       >Michael L. Shortt
> >       >Savannah, Georgia
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:42:32 -0500
> From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
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> There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI. I'm not
> home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > The only one I?ve heard of is from Kinsler.  That?s a stretch, though.  I
> > believe it wasn?t a Weber.  It was a full EFI.
> >
> > This post,
> > http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all+C30
> > 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it won?t fit,
> > anyway.
> >
> > The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly Coffield, but the
> > last I heard he wasn?t doing it again.
> >
> >
> > On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >   Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for Ford C302b
> > >   heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these heads but
> > >   have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3 heads which
> > >   have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a port width
> > >   of 1.25".
> > >   Thanks.
> > >   Boyd
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>    There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI. I'm
>    not home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
>    Jeff
> 
>    On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman
>    <[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>      The only one IA^1ve heard of is from Kinsler. A ThatA^1s a stretch,
>      though. A I
>      believe it wasnA^1t a Weber. A It was a full EFI.
>      This post,
>      [2]http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K3
>      51+all+C30
>      2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it
>      wonA^1t fit,
>      anyway.
>      The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly Coffield,
>      but the
>      last I heard he wasnA^1t doing it again.
> 
>    On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[3]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>    > A  Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for Ford
>    C302b
>    > A  heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these
>    heads but
>    > A  have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3 heads
>    which
>    > A  have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a port
>    width
>    > A  of 1.25".
>    > A  Thanks.
>    > A  Boyd
> 
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> 
>    1. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
>    2. http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all+C30
>    3. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
>    4. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>    5. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>    6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 15:29:47 -0700
> From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Any Pantera People/Activities in the Reston, VA
> 	area?
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> 
> I'm in town for a few days and would love to get together.? Email me off list.
> 
> Cheers!
> Garth
> #4033 - The Banzai Runner Pantera
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>    I'm in town for a few days and would love to get together.  Email me
>    off list.
>    Cheers!
>    Garth
>    #4033 - The Banzai Runner Pantera
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 15:36:01 -0700
> From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>, Will Kooiman
> 	<will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
> Message-ID: <BAY173-W2997C0DED71715777F691D950C0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> AussieSpeed make a Cleveland Weber IDF pattern manifold (reproduction of the old Cain pattern) it is for 2V heads with enough material to port to 4V, so you should be able to have it ported to match C302B's if you are set on those heads. You can do the reverse and epoxy (or weld) a 4V manifold to match or use port plates if you are set on an IDA pattern throttle body.
>  
> As for heads I have heard really good reviews on Scott Cook's heads, although CHI come a close second. Figure out your overall investment for porting etc. versus just buying off the shelf bolt on components and you might find it's better to list the C302B's on eBay.
>  
> Julian
>  
> From: jjdetrich at gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:42:32 -0500
> To: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
> 
> There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI. I'm not
> home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
>  
> Jeff
>  
>  
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>  
> > The only one I?ve heard of is from Kinsler.  That?s a stretch, though.  I
> > believe it wasn?t a Weber.  It was a full EFI.
> >
> > This post,
> > http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all+C30
> > 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it won?t fit,
> > anyway.
> >
> > The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly Coffield, but the
> > last I heard he wasn?t doing it again.
> >
> >
> > On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >   Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for Ford C302b
> > >   heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these heads but
> > >   have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3 heads which
> > >   have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a port width
> > >   of 1.25".
> > >   Thanks.
> > >   Boyd
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>    AussieSpeed make a Cleveland Weber IDF pattern manifold (reproduction
>    of the old Cain pattern) it is for 2V heads with enough material to
>    port to 4V, so you should be able to have it ported to match C302B's if
>    you are set on those heads. You can do the reverse and epoxy (or weld)
>    a 4V manifold to match or use port plates if you are set on an IDA
>    pattern throttle body.
> 
>    As for heads I have heard really good reviews on Scott Cook's heads,
>    although CHI come a close second. Figure out your overall investment
>    for porting etc. versus just buying off the shelf bolt on components
>    and you might find it's better to list the C302B's on eBay.
> 
>    Julian
> 
>    From: jjdetrich at gmail.com
>    Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:42:32 -0500
>    To: will.kooiman at gmail.com
>    CC: detomaso at poca.com
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
> There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI. I'm not
> home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > The only one I^1ve heard of is from Kinsler.  That^1s a stretch, though.  I
> > believe it wasn^1t a Weber.  It was a full EFI.
> >
> > This post,
> > [1]http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all+C30
> > 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it won^1t fit,
> > anyway.
> >
> > The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly Coffield, but the
> > last I heard he wasn^1t doing it again.
> >
> >
> > On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >   Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for Ford C302b
> > >   heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these heads but
> > >   have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3 heads which
> > >   have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a port width
> > >   of 1.25".
> > >   Thanks.
> > >   Boyd
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> 
>    1. http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all+C30
>    2. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:48:43 -0600
> From: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
> To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
> Message-ID: <05B262D7-C4E9-4E4F-A949-55EA30E50646 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
> 
> There's another Australian company that makes a Cleveland manifold for the Weber IDA pattern but it's intended for 2V and 4V heads, not raised port heads like the C302B heads.  The EFI Hardware manifold is a good alternative to the Hall Pantera Weber IDA manifold for EFI purposes. 
> 
> www.efihardware.com
> 
> Corey
> 
> Be prepared for sticker shock but they have good looking stuff. I don't know too much more. 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >   AussieSpeed make a Cleveland Weber IDF pattern manifold (reproduction
> >   of the old Cain pattern) it is for 2V heads with enough material to
> >   port to 4V, so you should be able to have it ported to match C302B's if
> >   you are set on those heads. You can do the reverse and epoxy (or weld)
> >   a 4V manifold to match or use port plates if you are set on an IDA
> >   pattern throttle body.
> > 
> >   As for heads I have heard really good reviews on Scott Cook's heads,
> >   although CHI come a close second. Figure out your overall investment
> >   for porting etc. versus just buying off the shelf bolt on components
> >   and you might find it's better to list the C302B's on eBay.
> > 
> >   Julian
> > 
> >   From: jjdetrich at gmail.com
> >   Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:42:32 -0500
> >   To: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> >   CC: detomaso at poca.com
> >   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
> > There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI. I'm not
> > home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> The only one I^1ve heard of is from Kinsler.  That^1s a stretch, though.  I
> >> believe it wasn^1t a Weber.  It was a full EFI.
> >> 
> >> This post,
> >> [1]http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all+C30
> >> 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it won^1t fit,
> >> anyway.
> >> 
> >> The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly Coffield, but the
> >> last I heard he wasn^1t doing it again.
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>  Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for Ford C302b
> >>>  heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these heads but
> >>>  have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3 heads which
> >>>  have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a port width
> >>>  of 1.25".
> >>>  Thanks.
> >>>  Boyd
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> 
> >>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> >   1. http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all+C30
> >   2. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >   3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 19:35:40 -0400
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
> Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> I was able to get in touch with kelly and he has the parts left to assemble
> another IR efi but his remaining manifold needs work. I have also located a
> Pair of A3 heads and and SVO manifold with the correct port size for A3
> heads. So it looks like my problem will be resolved one way or another.
> Thanks for every ones help.
> Boyd
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > There's another Australian company that makes a Cleveland manifold for the
> > Weber IDA pattern but it's intended for 2V and 4V heads, not raised port
> > heads like the C302B heads.  The EFI Hardware manifold is a good
> > alternative to the Hall Pantera Weber IDA manifold for EFI purposes.
> >
> > www.efihardware.com
> >
> > Corey
> >
> > Be prepared for sticker shock but they have good looking stuff. I don't
> > know too much more.
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >   AussieSpeed make a Cleveland Weber IDF pattern manifold (reproduction
> > >   of the old Cain pattern) it is for 2V heads with enough material to
> > >   port to 4V, so you should be able to have it ported to match C302B's if
> > >   you are set on those heads. You can do the reverse and epoxy (or weld)
> > >   a 4V manifold to match or use port plates if you are set on an IDA
> > >   pattern throttle body.
> > >
> > >   As for heads I have heard really good reviews on Scott Cook's heads,
> > >   although CHI come a close second. Figure out your overall investment
> > >   for porting etc. versus just buying off the shelf bolt on components
> > >   and you might find it's better to list the C302B's on eBay.
> > >
> > >   Julian
> > >
> > >   From: jjdetrich at gmail.com
> > >   Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:42:32 -0500
> > >   To: will.kooiman at gmail.com
> > >   CC: detomaso at poca.com
> > >   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
> > > There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI. I'm not
> > > home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> The only one I^1ve heard of is from Kinsler.  That^1s a stretch,
> > though.  I
> > >> believe it wasn^1t a Weber.  It was a full EFI.
> > >>
> > >> This post,
> > >> [1]
> > http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all+C30
> > >> 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it won^1t
> > fit,
> > >> anyway.
> > >>
> > >> The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly Coffield, but
> > the
> > >> last I heard he wasn^1t doing it again.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>  Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for Ford
> > C302b
> > >>>  heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these heads
> > but
> > >>>  have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3 heads which
> > >>>  have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a port
> > width
> > >>>  of 1.25".
> > >>>  Thanks.
> > >>>  Boyd
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>
> > >>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> > >   1.
> > http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all+C30
> > >   2. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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>    I was able to get in touch with kelly and he has the parts left to
>    assemble another IR efi but his remaining manifold needs work. I have
>    also located a Pair of A3 heads and and SVO manifold with the correct
>    port size for A3 heads. So it looks like my problem will be resolved
>    one way or another. Thanks for every ones help.
>    Boyd
> 
>    On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Corey Price <[1]coreyjprice at gmail.com>
>    wrote:
> 
>      There's another Australian company that makes a Cleveland manifold
>      for the Weber IDA pattern but it's intended for 2V and 4V heads, not
>      raised port heads like the C302B heads. A The EFI Hardware manifold
>      is a good alternative to the Hall Pantera Weber IDA manifold for EFI
>      purposes.
>      [2]www.efihardware.com
>      Corey
>      Be prepared for sticker shock but they have good looking stuff. I
>      don't know too much more.
> 
>    > On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Julian Kift <[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>    wrote:
>    >
>    > A  AussieSpeed make a Cleveland Weber IDF pattern manifold
>    (reproduction
>    > A  of the old Cain pattern) it is for 2V heads with enough material
>    to
>    > A  port to 4V, so you should be able to have it ported to match
>    C302B's if
>    > A  you are set on those heads. You can do the reverse and epoxy (or
>    weld)
>    > A  a 4V manifold to match or use port plates if you are set on an IDA
>    > A  pattern throttle body.
>    >
>    > A  As for heads I have heard really good reviews on Scott Cook's
>    heads,
>    > A  although CHI come a close second. Figure out your overall
>    investment
>    > A  for porting etc. versus just buying off the shelf bolt on
>    components
>    > A  and you might find it's better to list the C302B's on eBay.
>    >
>    > A  Julian
>    >
>    > A  From: [4]jjdetrich at gmail.com
>    > A  Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:42:32 -0500
>    > A  To: [5]will.kooiman at gmail.com
>    > A  CC: [6]detomaso at poca.com
>    > A  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
>    > There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI. I'm
>    not
>    > home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
>    >
>    > Jeff
>    >
>    >
>    > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman
>    <[7]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>    > wrote:
>    >
>    >> The only one I^1ve heard of is from Kinsler. A That^1s a stretch,
>    though. A I
>    >> believe it wasn^1t a Weber. A It was a full EFI.
>    >>
>    >> This post,
>    >>
>    [1][8]http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K3
>    51+all+C30
>    >> 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it
>    won^1t fit,
>    >> anyway.
>    >>
>    >> The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly Coffield,
>    but the
>    >> last I heard he wasn^1t doing it again.
>    >>
>    >>
>    >>> On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[9]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
>    >>>
>    >>> A Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for Ford
>    C302b
>    >>> A heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these
>    heads but
>    >>> A have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3 heads
>    which
>    >>> A have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a port
>    width
>    >>> A of 1.25".
>    >>> A Thanks.
>    >>> A Boyd
>    >>> _______________________________________________
>    >>>
>    >>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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>    >>> [2][11]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>    >>
>    >>
>    >>
>    >> _______________________________________________
>    >>
>    >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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>    >> DeTomaso mailing list
>    >> [12]DeTomaso at poca.com
>    >> [3][13]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>    >
>    > A  _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum
>    Managed
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>    > A  [15]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>    >
>    > References
>    >
>    > A  1.
>    [16]http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351
>    +all+C30
>    > A  2. [17]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>    > A  3. [18]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>    > _______________________________________________
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> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:coreyjprice at gmail.com
>    2. http://www.efihardware.com/
>    3. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>    4. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
>    5. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
>    6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>    7. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
>    8. http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all+C30
>    9. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
>   10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   12. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   13. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   16. http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all+C30
>   17. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   19. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   20. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 19:57:38 -0400
> From: Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar <arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com>
> To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Any Pantera People/Activities in the Reston,
> 	VA area?
> Message-ID:
> 	<CAJQq=2w+hCrOGU+FKygR6DhRfA6E69XW3hYHYz3cWajMcHpoUw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Are you around through the weekend? If you are, come to Katies C&C on
> Saturday morning. There's always a few Panteras in attendance.
> On Jul 8, 2014 6:35 PM, "Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso" <detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >    I'm in town for a few days and would love to get together.  Email me
> >    off list.
> >    Cheers!
> >    Garth
> >    #4033 - The Banzai Runner Pantera
> >
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>    Are you around through the weekend? If you are, come to Katies C&C on
>    Saturday morning. There's always a few Panteras in attendance.
> 
>    On Jul 8, 2014 6:35 PM, "Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso"
>    <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> 
>      A  A I'm in town for a few days and would love to get together.
>      A Email me
>      A  A off list.
>      A  A Cheers!
>      A  A Garth
>      A  A #4033 - The Banzai Runner Pantera
>      _______________________________________________
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>      DeTomaso mailing list
>      [2]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      [3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>    2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>    3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 21:43:59 -0400
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>,	Corey Price
> 	<coreyjprice at gmail.com>
> Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
> Message-ID: <CFE21685.CC76%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"
> 
> Do the A3 heads.  You will like them.
> 
> On 7/8/14, 7:35 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >   I was able to get in touch with kelly and he has the parts left to
> >   assemble another IR efi but his remaining manifold needs work. I have
> >   also located a Pair of A3 heads and and SVO manifold with the correct
> >   port size for A3 heads. So it looks like my problem will be resolved
> >   one way or another. Thanks for every ones help.
> >   Boyd
> >
> >   On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Corey Price <[1]coreyjprice at gmail.com>
> >   wrote:
> >
> >     There's another Australian company that makes a Cleveland manifold
> >     for the Weber IDA pattern but it's intended for 2V and 4V heads, not
> >     raised port heads like the C302B heads. A The EFI Hardware manifold
> >     is a good alternative to the Hall Pantera Weber IDA manifold for EFI
> >     purposes.
> >     [2]www.efihardware.com
> >     Corey
> >     Be prepared for sticker shock but they have good looking stuff. I
> >     don't know too much more.
> >
> >   > On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Julian Kift <[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> >   wrote:
> >   >
> >   > A  AussieSpeed make a Cleveland Weber IDF pattern manifold
> >   (reproduction
> >   > A  of the old Cain pattern) it is for 2V heads with enough material
> >   to
> >   > A  port to 4V, so you should be able to have it ported to match
> >   C302B's if
> >   > A  you are set on those heads. You can do the reverse and epoxy (or
> >   weld)
> >   > A  a 4V manifold to match or use port plates if you are set on an IDA
> >   > A  pattern throttle body.
> >   >
> >   > A  As for heads I have heard really good reviews on Scott Cook's
> >   heads,
> >   > A  although CHI come a close second. Figure out your overall
> >   investment
> >   > A  for porting etc. versus just buying off the shelf bolt on
> >   components
> >   > A  and you might find it's better to list the C302B's on eBay.
> >   >
> >   > A  Julian
> >   >
> >   > A  From: [4]jjdetrich at gmail.com
> >   > A  Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:42:32 -0500
> >   > A  To: [5]will.kooiman at gmail.com
> >   > A  CC: [6]detomaso at poca.com
> >   > A  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
> >   > There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI. I'm
> >   not
> >   > home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
> >   >
> >   > Jeff
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman
> >   <[7]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> >   > wrote:
> >   >
> >   >> The only one I^1ve heard of is from Kinsler. A That^1s a stretch,
> >   though. A I
> >   >> believe it wasn^1t a Weber. A It was a full EFI.
> >   >>
> >   >> This post,
> >   >>
> >   [1][8]http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K3
> >   51+all+C30
> >   >> 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it
> >   won^1t fit,
> >   >> anyway.
> >   >>
> >   >> The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly Coffield,
> >   but the
> >   >> last I heard he wasn^1t doing it again.
> >   >>
> >   >>
> >   >>> On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[9]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >   >>>
> >   >>> A Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for Ford
> >   C302b
> >   >>> A heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these
> >   heads but
> >   >>> A have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3 heads
> >   which
> >   >>> A have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a port
> >   width
> >   >>> A of 1.25".
> >   >>> A Thanks.
> >   >>> A Boyd
> >   >>> _______________________________________________
> >   >>>
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> >   >> _______________________________________________
> >   >>
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> >   > A  _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum
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> >   > A  [15]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >   >
> >   > References
> >   >
> >   > A  1.
> >   [16]http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351
> >   +all+C30
> >   > A  2. [17]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >   > A  3. [18]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >   > _______________________________________________
> >   >
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> >   > [19]DeTomaso at poca.com
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> >   [21]DeTomaso at poca.com
> >   [22]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >
> >References
> >
> >   1. mailto:coreyjprice at gmail.com
> >   2. http://www.efihardware.com/
> >   3. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
> >   4. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
> >   5. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> >   6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >   7. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> >   8. 
> >http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all+C3
> >0
> >   9. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
> >  10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >  11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >  12. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >  13. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >  14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >  15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >  16. 
> >http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all+C3
> >0
> >  17. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >  18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >  19. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >  20. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >  21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >  22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> >_______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 21:47:22 -0400
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>,	Ken Green
> 	<kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> Message-ID: <CFE2174E.CC78%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"
> 
> Hideous comes to mind.
> 
> On 7/8/14, 5:06 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> 
> >   Butt-face ugly.  IHMO
> >
> >   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
> >
> >     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
> >
> >     to contact us!"
> >
> >   Terry W. Himes  [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
> >
> >   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> >
> >   Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
> >
> >   Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
> >
> >   Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
> >
> >   Phone: (818) 393-6261
> >
> >   Cell:     (818) 653-8213
> >
> >   Fax:     (818) 393-3147
> >
> >   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> >
> >   From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
> >   Reply-To: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> >   Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
> >   To: detomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
> >   Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> >
> >   [5]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
> >   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
> >   S_Cars_Trucks
> >
> >References
> >
> >   1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> >   2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >   3. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
> >   4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >   5. 
> >http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185
> >276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Tr
> >ucks
> >_______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 22:00:51 -0400
> From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
> To: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> Message-ID:
> 	<CABpzvs8rk1j4_M=LejoWCGiM_AJR7bfzGmHPiFe2Wxr_6i8qug at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> I'm more freaked out by the old instamatic fixed lens camera photos scanned
> in.  Can you even get instamatic film these days?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hideous comes to mind.
> >
> > On 7/8/14, 5:06 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >   Butt-face ugly.  IHMO
> > >
> > >   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
> > >
> > >     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
> > >
> > >     to contact us!"
> > >
> > >   Terry W. Himes  [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
> > >
> > >   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> > >
> > >   Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
> > >
> > >   Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
> > >
> > >   Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
> > >
> > >   Phone: (818) 393-6261
> > >
> > >   Cell:     (818) 653-8213
> > >
> > >   Fax:     (818) 393-3147
> > >
> > >   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> > >
> > >   From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
> > >   Reply-To: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> > >   Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
> > >   To: detomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
> > >   Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> > >
> > >   [5]
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
> > >   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
> > >   S_Cars_Trucks
> > >
> > >References
> > >
> > >   1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> > >   2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> > >   3. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
> > >   4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> > >   5.
> > >
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185
> > >276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Tr
> > >ucks
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >
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> >
> >
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
> '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera #1382
> "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
> "Computers are useless.  They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
> -------------- next part --------------
>    I'm more freaked out by the old instamatic fixed lens camera photos
>    scanned in.A  Can you even get instamatic film these days?
> 
>    On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Will Kooiman
>    <[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>      Hideous comes to mind.
> 
>    On 7/8/14, 5:06 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[2]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>    wrote:
>    > A  Butt-face ugly. A IHMO
>    >
>    > A  "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>    >
>    > A  A  exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
>    >
>    > A  A  to contact us!"
>    >
>    > A  Terry W. Himes A [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
>    >
>    > A  JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>    >
>    > A  Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
>    >
>    > A  Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
>    >
>    > A  Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
>    >
>    > A  Phone: [3](818) 393-6261
>    >
>    > A  Cell: A  A  [4](818) 653-8213
>    >
>    > A  Fax: A  A  [5](818) 393-3147
>    >
>    > A  [1][6]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    >
>    > A  From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2][7]detomaso at poca.com>
>    > A  Reply-To: Ken Green <[3][8]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>    > A  Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
>    > A  To: detomaso <[4][9]detomaso at poca.com>
>    > A  Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
>    >
>    > A
>    [5][10]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pante
>    ra-/
>    > A
>    291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
>    > A  S_Cars_Trucks
>    >
>    >References
>    >
>    > A  1. mailto:[11]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    > A  2. mailto:[12]detomaso at poca.com
>    > A  3. mailto:[13]kenn_green at yahoo.com
>    > A  4. mailto:[14]detomaso at poca.com
>    > A  5.
>    >[15]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera
>    -/291185
>    >276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Car
>    s_Tr
>    >ucks
> 
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>    Sean Korb [20]spkorb at spkorb.org [21]http://www.spkorb.org
>    '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
>    #1382
>    "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
>    "Computers are useless.A  They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
>    2. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    3. tel:%28818%29%20393-6261
>    4. tel:%28818%29%20653-8213
>    5. tel:%28818%29%20393-3147
>    6. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    7. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>    8. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
>    9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>   10. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
>   11. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>   12. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>   13. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
>   14. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>   15. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185
>   16. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   17. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   18. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   19. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   20. mailto:spkorb at spkorb.org
>   21. http://www.spkorb.org/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 02:03:56 +0000
> From: "Bill Moore" <bill at incendium.com>
> To: "Will Kooiman" <will.kooiman at gmail.com>,	"DeTomaso"
> 	<detomaso-bounces at poca.com>,	"Himes, Terry (397C)"
> 	<terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>,	"Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>,
> 	"DeTomaso List" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> Message-ID:
> 	<1469372778-1404871438-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860305277- at b15.c6.bise6.blackberry>
> 	
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> Crush it. 
> Bill Moore
> Incendium Supply
> Calgary
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Sender: "DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at poca.com>Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 21:47:22 
> To: Himes, Terry (397C)<terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>; Ken Green<kenn_green at yahoo.com>; detomaso<detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> 
> Hideous comes to mind.
> 
> On 7/8/14, 5:06 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> 
> >   Butt-face ugly.  IHMO
> >
> >   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
> >
> >     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
> >
> >     to contact us!"
> >
> >   Terry W. Himes  [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
> >
> >   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> >
> >   Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
> >
> >   Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
> >
> >   Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
> >
> >   Phone: (818) 393-6261
> >
> >   Cell:     (818) 653-8213
> >
> >   Fax:     (818) 393-3147
> >
> >   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> >
> >   From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
> >   Reply-To: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> >   Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
> >   To: detomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
> >   Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> >
> >   [5]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
> >   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
> >   S_Cars_Trucks
> >
> >References
> >
> >   1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> >   2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >   3. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
> >   4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >   5. 
> >http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185
> >276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Tr
> >ucks
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> 
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 22:09:10 -0400
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> Message-ID:
> 	<CALsQ=ctJexiwVZbtoO_quwcXBVv7AavF_CZ4QLpFzucNHbkgXw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Aside from the "looks"  who really knows what lies behind the "foam and
> Bondo", the mystery box in chicago, and the ZF in Biloxi? The current bids
> in the $2000 range are an indication that the veritable "sucker born every
> minute"" is even too smart to bite on this one!
> Boyd
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hideous comes to mind.
> >
> > On 7/8/14, 5:06 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >   Butt-face ugly.  IHMO
> > >
> > >   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
> > >
> > >     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
> > >
> > >     to contact us!"
> > >
> > >   Terry W. Himes  [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
> > >
> > >   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> > >
> > >   Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
> > >
> > >   Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
> > >
> > >   Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
> > >
> > >   Phone: (818) 393-6261
> > >
> > >   Cell:     (818) 653-8213
> > >
> > >   Fax:     (818) 393-3147
> > >
> > >   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> > >
> > >   From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
> > >   Reply-To: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> > >   Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
> > >   To: detomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
> > >   Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> > >
> > >   [5]
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
> > >   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
> > >   S_Cars_Trucks
> > >
> > >References
> > >
> > >   1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> > >   2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> > >   3. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
> > >   4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> > >   5.
> > >
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185
> > >276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Tr
> > >ucks
> > >_______________________________________________
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> >
> >
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> >
> -------------- next part --------------
>    Aside from the "looks" A who really knows what lies behind the "foam
>    and Bondo", the mystery box in chicago, and the ZF in Biloxi? The
>    current bids in the $2000 range are an indication that the veritable
>    "sucker born every minute"" is even too smart to bite on this one!
>    Boyd
> 
>    On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Will Kooiman
>    <[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>      Hideous comes to mind.
> 
>    On 7/8/14, 5:06 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[2]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>    wrote:
>    > A  Butt-face ugly. A IHMO
>    >
>    > A  "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>    >
>    > A  A  exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
>    >
>    > A  A  to contact us!"
>    >
>    > A  Terry W. Himes A [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
>    >
>    > A  JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>    >
>    > A  Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
>    >
>    > A  Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
>    >
>    > A  Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
>    >
>    > A  Phone: [3](818) 393-6261
>    >
>    > A  Cell: A  A  [4](818) 653-8213
>    >
>    > A  Fax: A  A  [5](818) 393-3147
>    >
>    > A  [1][6]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    >
>    > A  From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2][7]detomaso at poca.com>
>    > A  Reply-To: Ken Green <[3][8]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>    > A  Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
>    > A  To: detomaso <[4][9]detomaso at poca.com>
>    > A  Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
>    >
>    > A
>    [5][10]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pante
>    ra-/
>    > A
>    291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
>    > A  S_Cars_Trucks
>    >
>    >References
>    >
>    > A  1. mailto:[11]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    > A  2. mailto:[12]detomaso at poca.com
>    > A  3. mailto:[13]kenn_green at yahoo.com
>    > A  4. mailto:[14]detomaso at poca.com
>    > A  5.
>    >[15]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera
>    -/291185
>    >276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Car
>    s_Tr
>    >ucks
> 
>    >_______________________________________________
>    >
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>    >[16]DeTomaso at poca.com
>    >[17]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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>    [18]DeTomaso at poca.com
>    [19]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
>    2. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    3. tel:%28818%29%20393-6261
>    4. tel:%28818%29%20653-8213
>    5. tel:%28818%29%20393-3147
>    6. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    7. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>    8. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
>    9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>   10. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
>   11. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>   12. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>   13. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
>   14. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>   15. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185
>   16. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   17. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   18. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   19. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 22:58:37 -0400
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> Message-ID: <CFE227E1.CC98%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Well darn.  I entered a bid of $3,005, but someone has a higher max bid
> (instantly outbid).
> 
> I guess it?s going to go for more than $3,000.  I figured it?s worth that
> much in recycled foam.
> 
> From:  Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> Date:  Tuesday, July 8, 2014 at 10:09 PM
> To:  Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Cc:  "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, Ken Green
> <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject:  Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> 
> Aside from the "looks"  who really knows what lies behind the "foam and
> Bondo", the mystery box in chicago, and the ZF in Biloxi? The current bids
> in the $2000 range are an indication that the veritable "sucker born every
> minute"" is even too smart to bite on this one!
> Boyd
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hideous comes to mind.
> > 
> > On 7/8/14, 5:06 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> > 
> >> >   Butt-face ugly.  IHMO
> >> >
> >> >   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
> >> >
> >> >     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
> >> >
> >> >     to contact us!"
> >> >
> >> >   Terry W. Himes  [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
> >> >
> >> >   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
> >> >
> >> >   Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
> >> >
> >> >   Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
> >> >
> >> >   Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
> >> >
> >> >   Phone: (818) 393-6261 <tel:%28818%29%20393-6261>
> >> >
> >> >   Cell:     (818) 653-8213 <tel:%28818%29%20653-8213>
> >> >
> >> >   Fax:     (818) 393-3147 <tel:%28818%29%20393-3147>
> >> >
> >> >   [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> >> >
> >> >   From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
> >> >   Reply-To: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> >> >   Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
> >> >   To: detomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
> >> >   Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> >> >
> >> >   [5]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
> >> >   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
> >> >   S_Cars_Trucks
> >> >
> >> >References
> >> >
> >> >   1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
> >> >   2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >> >   3. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
> >> >   4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >> >   5.
> >> >http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185
> >> >276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Tr
> >> >ucks
> >> >_______________________________________________
> >> >
> >> >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> >> >DeTomaso mailing list
> >> >DeTomaso at poca.com
> >> >http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
> 
> -------------- next part --------------
>    Well darn.  I entered a bid of $3,005, but someone has a higher max bid
>    (instantly outbid).
> 
>    I guess it's going to go for more than $3,000.  I figured it's worth
>    that much in recycled foam.
> 
>    From: Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
>    Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 at 10:09 PM
>    To: Will Kooiman <[2]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>    Cc: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[3]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, Ken Green
>    <[4]kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> 
>    Aside from the "looks"  who really knows what lies behind the "foam and
>    Bondo", the mystery box in chicago, and the ZF in Biloxi? The current
>    bids in the $2000 range are an indication that the veritable "sucker
>    born every minute"" is even too smart to bite on this one!
>    Boyd
> 
>    On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Will Kooiman
>    <[6]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>      Hideous comes to mind.
> 
>    On 7/8/14, 5:06 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[7]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
>    wrote:
>    >   Butt-face ugly.  IHMO
>    >
>    >   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
>    >
>    >     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
>    >
>    >     to contact us!"
>    >
>    >   Terry W. Himes  [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
>    >
>    >   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>    >
>    >   Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
>    >
>    >   Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
>    >
>    >   Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
>    >
>    >   Phone: [8](818) 393-6261
>    >
>    >   Cell:     [9](818) 653-8213
>    >
>    >   Fax:     [10](818) 393-3147
>    >
>    >   [1][11]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    >
>    >   From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2][12]detomaso at poca.com>
>    >   Reply-To: Ken Green <[3][13]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>    >   Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
>    >   To: detomaso <[4][14]detomaso at poca.com>
>    >   Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
>    >
>    >
>    [5][15]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pante
>    ra-/
>    >
>    291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
>    >   S_Cars_Trucks
>    >
>    >References
>    >
>    >   1. mailto:[16]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    >   2. mailto:[17]detomaso at poca.com
>    >   3. mailto:[18]kenn_green at yahoo.com
>    >   4. mailto:[19]detomaso at poca.com
>    >   5.
>    >[20]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera
>    -/291185
>    >276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Car
>    s_Tr
>    >ucks
> 
>    >_______________________________________________
>    >
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>    >[21]DeTomaso at poca.com
>    >[22]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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>    DeTomaso mailing list
>    [23]DeTomaso at poca.com
>    [24]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
>    2. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
>    3. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    4. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
>    5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>    6. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
>    7. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
>    8. tel:%28818%29%20393-6261
>    9. tel:%28818%29%20653-8213
>   10. tel:%28818%29%20393-3147
>   11. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>   12. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>   13. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
>   14. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>   15. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
>   16. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>   17. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>   18. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
>   19. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>   20. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185
>   21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   23. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   24. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 23:04:59 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> To: thomas at hax.se, kenn_green at yahoo.com
> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
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> 
> I'm seeing Ferrari 355 styling cues and an F40 rear spoiler.
>  
> I also wonder if its a photoshop creation and there is no such car.
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
> >   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
> >   S_Cars_Trucks
> 
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thomas <thomas at hax.se>
> To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:49 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> 
> 
> Like Mike should have said: "Kill it with fire!"
> 
> > 8 jul 2014 kl. 22:35 skrev Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>:
> > 
> >   [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
> >   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
> >   S_Cars_Trucks
> > 
> > References
> > 
> >   1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
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>    I'm seeing Ferrari 355 styling cues and an F40 rear spoiler.
> 
> 
> 
>    I also wonder if its a photoshop creation and there is no such car.
> 
> [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
> >   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
> >   S_Cars_Trucks
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: thomas <thomas at hax.se>
>    To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>    Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
>    Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:49 pm
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> Like Mike should have said: "Kill it with fire!"
> 
> > 8 jul 2014 kl. 22:35 skrev Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>:
> >
> >   [1][3]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
> >   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
> >   S_Cars_Trucks
> >
> > References
> >
> >   1. [4]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/29
> 1185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Truc
> ks
> >
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> References
> 
>    1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
>    2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>    3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
>    4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
>    5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>    6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>    7. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>    8. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 23:22:29 -0400
> From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> 	<detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
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> 
> Pantdino,
> Well that's the one good thing about ebay and Paypal you are protected and
> especially for a car , your bid is not binding until you take a look at the
> car and agree to take physical delivery. . If the body isn't a wrecked rust
> bucket underneath the "foam and bondo" and the ZF has been stored properly
> (granted two big ifs) there is potential for it to be a deal if the bidding
> doesn't get crazy!. I'd like to know how they are going to work out
> satisfaction of proof of delivery when you have parts coming from all over
> the country? This may be some new kind of scam.
> Boyd
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Pantdino via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >    I'm seeing Ferrari 355 styling cues and an F40 rear spoiler.
> >
> >
> >
> >    I also wonder if its a photoshop creation and there is no such car.
> >
> > [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
> > >   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
> > >   S_Cars_Trucks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >    -----Original Message-----
> >    From: thomas <thomas at hax.se>
> >    To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> >    Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> >    Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:49 pm
> >    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> > Like Mike should have said: "Kill it with fire!"
> >
> > > 8 jul 2014 kl. 22:35 skrev Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com
> > >:
> > >
> > >   [1][3]
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
> > >   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
> > >   S_Cars_Trucks
> > >
> > > References
> > >
> > >   1. [4]
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/29
> >
> > 1185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Truc
> > ks
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> >    1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
> >    2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> >    3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
> >    4.
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
> >    5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> >    6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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>    Pantdino,
>    Well that's the one good thing about ebay and Paypal you are protected
>    and especially for a car , your bid is not binding until you take a
>    look at the car and agree to take physical delivery. . If the body
>    isn't a wrecked rust bucket underneath the "foam and bondo" and the ZF
>    has been stored properly (granted two big ifs) there is potential for
>    it to be a deal if the bidding doesn't get crazy!. I'd like to know how
>    they are going to work out satisfaction of proof of delivery when you
>    have parts coming from all over the country? This may be some new kind
>    of scam.
>    Boyd
> 
>    On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Pantdino via DeTomaso
>    <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> 
>      A  A I'm seeing Ferrari 355 styling cues and an F40 rear spoiler.
>      A  A I also wonder if its a photoshop creation and there is no such
>      car.
> 
>    [1][2]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-panter
>    a-/
>    > A
>    291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
>    > A  S_Cars_Trucks
> 
>    A  A -----Original Message-----
>    A  A From: thomas <[3]thomas at hax.se>
>    A  A To: Ken Green <[4]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>    A  A Cc: detomaso <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
>    A  A Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:49 pm
>    A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
> 
>    Like Mike should have said: "Kill it with fire!"
> 
>      > 8 jul 2014 kl. 22:35 skrev Ken Green via DeTomaso
>      <[2][6]detomaso at poca.com>:
>      >
>      > A
>      [1][3][7]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-
>      pantera-/
>      > A
>      291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&p
>      t=U
>      > A  S_Cars_Trucks
>      >
>      > References
>      >
>      > A  1.
>      [4][8]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pan
>      tera-/29
>      1185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=
>      US_Cars_Truc
> 
>    ks
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>      References
>      A  A 1.
>      [13]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pante
>      ra-/
>      A  A 2. mailto:[14]detomaso at poca.com
>      A  A 3.
>      [15]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pante
>      ra-/
>      A  A 4.
>      [16]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pante
>      ra-/291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=2911852768
>      46&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
>      A  A 5. mailto:[17]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A 6. [18]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>      A  A 7. mailto:[19]DeTomaso at poca.com
>      A  A 8. [20]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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> References
> 
>    1. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>    2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
>    3. mailto:thomas at hax.se
>    4. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
>    5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>    6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>    7. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
>    8. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Truc
>    9. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   10. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   11. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   12. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   13. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
>   14. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>   15. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
>   16. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
>   17. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   19. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   20. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>   21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>   22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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> 
> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 00:33:51 -0700
> From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
> To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Inglese Versus Hilborn IR 8 Stack EFI or?
> Message-ID: <277F0B10-A412-4134-BE3A-88962833CFDA at mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Thank you Julian.
> 
> Does anyone have a 351C 2V Weber IDA or IDF or Inglese 8 stack manifold for sale? Any specific for EFI with vacuum capabilities? Anyone have an 8 stack EFI system used maybe? I have a 351C with CHI 3V heads so need the 2V manifold and then I can port match. As I said I am running the FAST EFI and they make a harness to plug right into my existing harness.
> 
> Thanks, Ed Mendez?
> 
> On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:56, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > When you say Inglese it is worth distinguishing that there are essentially two Inglese companies; Jim Inglese sold out to Comp Cams which is now operated as Inglese Induction www.inglese.com with no input from Jim who has since restarted his own business under Jim Inglese www.jiminglese.com  Jim focuses on Weber Carb based systems and will custom design a bolt on solution given your engine specs. He is an extremely knowledgeable and helpful guy in my experience.
> >  
> > For a low profile manifold (assuming you have a Cleveland that is) the best one to use is the AussieSpeed 48IDF manifold, it allows the use of 48IDF 8 stack carbs with air filters all to fit under the engine screen with no decklid cutting. It is a reproduction of the Cain 48IDF manifold. You can of course use it for EFI with IDF pattern throttle bodies.
> >  
> > Recent threads have discussed the TWM/Borla options I believe and you should probably also consider Kinsler.
> >  
> > Julian
> >  
> > > From: edducati at mac.com
> > > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 22:06:02 -0700
> > > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Inglese Versus Hilborn IR 8 Stack EFI or?
> > > 
> > > Anyone have any opinions about these two units?
> > > 
> > > Any others you would recommend? low profile if possible to put my engine cover back on?.
> > > 
> > > Will be using the FAST XFI or EZ EFI since I already have a EZ-EFI 2.0.
> > > 
> > > By the way, my FAST EZ 2.0 runs perfect no issues, I just want an 8 stack...
> > > 
> > > Thanks, Ed
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>    Thank you Julian.
> 
>    Does anyone have a 351C 2V Weber IDA or IDF or Inglese 8 stack manifold
>    for sale? Any specific for EFI with vacuum capabilities... Anyone have
>    an 8 stack EFI system used maybe? I have a 351C with CHI 3V heads so
>    need the 2V manifold and then I can port match. As I said I am running
>    the FAST EFI and they make a harness to plug right into my existing
>    harness.
> 
>    Thanks, Ed Mendez
> 
>    On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:56, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>    wrote:
> 
>    When you say Inglese it is worth distinguishing that there are
>    essentially two Inglese companies; Jim Inglese sold out to Comp Cams
>    which is now operated as Inglese Induction [2]www.inglese.com with no
>    input from Jim who has since restarted his own business under Jim
>    Inglese [3]www.jiminglese.com  Jim focuses on Weber Carb based
>    systems and will custom design a bolt on solution given your engine
>    specs. He is an extremely knowledgeable and helpful guy in my
>    experience.
> 
>    For a low profile manifold (assuming you have a Cleveland that is) the
>    best one to use is the AussieSpeed 48IDF manifold, it allows the use
>    of 48IDF 8 stack carbs with air filters all to fit under the engine
>    screen with no decklid cutting. It is a reproduction of the Cain 48IDF
>    manifold. You can of course use it for EFI with IDF pattern throttle
>    bodies.
> 
>    Recent threads have discussed the TWM/Borla options I believe and you
>    should probably also consider Kinsler.
> 
>    Julian
> 
>    > From: [4]edducati at mac.com
>    > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 22:06:02 -0700
>    > To: [5]detomaso at poca.com
>    > Subject: [DeTomaso] Inglese Versus Hilborn IR 8 Stack EFI or?
>    >
>    > Anyone have any opinions about these two units?
>    >
>    > Any others you would recommend? low profile if possible to put my
>    engine cover back on....
>    >
>    > Will be using the FAST XFI or EZ EFI since I already have a EZ-EFI
>    2.0.
>    >
>    > By the way, my FAST EZ 2.0 runs perfect no issues, I just want an 8
>    stack...
>    >
>    > Thanks, Ed
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> References
> 
>    1. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
>    2. http://www.inglese.com/
>    3. http://www.jiminglese.com/
>    4. mailto:edducati at mac.com
>    5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
>    6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
>    7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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   > 1. Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Ken Green)
   > 2. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (thomas)
   > 3. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (bill gaino)
   > 4. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Himes, Terry (397C))
   > 5. Re: Pre Pantera Datsun Z cars was Dual Remote oil filters
   > (dave londry)
   > 6. Re: Weber manifold for C302b heads (Jeff Detrich)
   > 7. Any Pantera People/Activities in the Reston, VA area?
   > (Garth Rodericks)
   > 8. Re: Weber manifold for C302b heads (Julian Kift)
   > 9. Re: Weber manifold for C302b heads (Corey Price)
   > 10. Re: Weber manifold for C302b heads (Boyd Casey)
   > 11. Re: Any Pantera People/Activities in the Reston, VA area?
   > (Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar)
   > 12. Re: Weber manifold for C302b heads (Will Kooiman)
   > 13. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Will Kooiman)
   > 14. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Sean Korb)
   > 15. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Bill Moore)
   > 16. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Boyd Casey)
   > 17. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Will Kooiman)
   > 18. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Pantdino)
   > 19. Re: Pantera with a nossssse job??? (Boyd Casey)
   > 20. Re: Inglese Versus Hilborn IR 8 Stack EFI or? (Ed Mendez)
   >
   >
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   >
   > Message: 1
   > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 13:35:26 -0700
   > From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   > To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > Message-ID:
   > <1404851726.48555.YahooMailNeo at web162504.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
   >
   >
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   >
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   >
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   > S_Cars_Trucks
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291
   185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_C
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   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 2
   > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 22:45:58 +0200
   > From: thomas <thomas at hax.se>
   > To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   > Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > Message-ID: <D17E60B6-EA6B-45DB-B6BB-B96EC68AD499 at hax.se>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
   >
   > Like Mike should have said: "Kill it with fire!"
   >
   > > 8 jul 2014 kl. 22:35 skrev Ken Green via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at poca.com>:
   > >
   > >
   [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > > S_Cars_Trucks
   > >
   > > References
   > >
   > > 1.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291
   185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_C
   ars_Trucks
   > >
   > >
   > > !DSPAM:53bc564727607307228636!
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   > >
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   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 3
   > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 17:02:14 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
   > From: bill gaino <gaino at earthlink.net>
   > To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > Message-ID:
   >
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   t>
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   >
   > Talk about a pig in a poke! He should blast it .. then take pics.
   Jeez. Bill 1362
   >
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > >From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   > >Sent: Jul 8, 2014 4:35 PM
   > >To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   > >Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > >
   > >
   [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > > S_Cars_Trucks
   > >
   > >References
   > >
   > > 1.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291
   185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_C
   ars_Trucks
   >
   >
   >
   https://www.facebook.com/pages/slickpaintcom/129049637149634?ref=ts&fre
   f=ts
   > If you want it slick. www.slickpaint.com like us on facebook
   >
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   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 4
   > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 21:06:45 +0000
   > From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   > To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > Message-ID: <CFE1AB60.59F59%thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > Butt-face ugly. IHMO
   >
   >
   > "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
   > exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
   > to contact us!"
   >
   > Terry W. Himes [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
   > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   > Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
   > Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
   > Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
   > Phone: (818) 393-6261
   > Cell: (818) 653-8213
   > Fax: (818) 393-3147
   > thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   > ??
   >
   > From: Ken Green via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
   > Reply-To: Ken Green
   <kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>>
   > Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
   > To: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   >
   >
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291
   185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_C
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   > Butt-face ugly. IHMO
   >
   > "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
   >
   > exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
   >
   > to contact us!"
   >
   > Terry W. Himes [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
   >
   > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   >
   > Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
   >
   > Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
   >
   > Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
   >
   > Phone: (818) 393-6261
   >
   > Cell: (818) 653-8213
   >
   > Fax: (818) 393-3147
   >
   > [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   >
   > From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
   > Reply-To: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   > Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
   > To: detomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   >
   >
   [5]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > S_Cars_Trucks
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > 2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 3. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 5.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291
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   > Message: 5
   > Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 14:24:14 -0700
   > From: dave londry <davel at emspace.com>
   > To: detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pre Pantera Datsun Z cars was Dual Remote oil
   > filters
   > Message-ID: <53BC617E.2030000 at emspace.com>
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   >
   > We run a 300zx (165hp) in a production class where it's mandated at
   3230
   > lbs.
   > It's sad there, but to get 2 of us some butt time we also run it in
   GT,
   > where it's sadly classed as GT1 and runs with the retired Cup cars.
   > Stupid speed differential!
   >
   > On 07/07/2014 7:07 AM, Robert Pink wrote:
   > > Well I had a 240Z back in high school but recently acquired a 240Z
   race
   > > car and second one in a shed. A Here is a picture of the car. A ( I
   am
   > > the one in front)A I hope to race vintage at CVAR. A Now i just
   need to
   > > find a way to stay out of the way of Tom Upton and Kirby's race
   > > Panteras that I hear often run in the same event due to a shortage
   of
   > > cars. A Hem about 500hp difference and 50 MPH on the main straight
   at
   > > TWS - I will probably be staying low.
   > >
   > > At least for now I have put too much work into the Pantera to put
   it on
   > > the track in any serious way.A
   > > On Monday, July 7, 2014, bill gaino <[1]gaino at earthlink.net> wrote:
   > >
   > > My 71 240 was orange with black louvers clear headlamp covers and a
   > > rear spoiler. Rebuilt engine with sythetic oil. I sold it for 4000
   > > cash, the buyer had 200 20 dollar bill. I bought my first piece of
   > > land with the proceeds and built my first home later.
   > > Bill 1362
   > > -----Original Message-----
   > > >From: Charles Engles <[2]cengles at cox.net>
   > > >Sent: Jul 7, 2014 8:07 AM
   > > >To: "'Himes, Terry (397C)'" <[3]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, 'Rob
   > > Dumoulin' <[4]rob at dumoulins.net>, 'Mikael'
   > > <[5]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>
   > > >Cc: [6]detomaso at poca.com, 'Pantera - Michael Shortt'
   > > <[7]michael at michaelshortt.com>
   > > >Subject: [DeTomaso] Pre Pantera Datsun Z cars was Dual Remote oil
   > > filters
   > > >
   > > >Dear Rob and Terry,
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > A A A A A A A A Interesting. A I owed a 260Z modified with
   > > headers and side draft Webers and suspension mods. A I then bought
   > > it a stable mate, a 280Z, for my dear wife. A Both were sold on the
   > > road to Panteras. A I saw a couple of Zs at Cars&Coffee Saturday.
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >-----Original Message-----
   > > >From: DeTomaso [mailto:[8]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
   > > Himes, Terry (397C)
   > > >Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 9:16 PM
   > > >To: Rob Dumoulin; Mikael
   > > >Cc: [9]detomaso at poca.com; Pantera - Michael Shortt
   > > >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dual Remote oil filters
   > > >
   > > >Wow! A Small world. I had a 280Z and sold it for a Porsche. A No
   > > fancy toilet paper oil filter tho. A I got 256k
   > > >miles on mine and sold it for $500. A Then bought a Porsche 944.
   > > A When I bought the 280Z (1981) the guy had a beautiful A Pantera
   > > but would not budge from the $25,000. price tag (1981), was way to
   > > much for me. A That was in Philly. A Loved that Porsche, moved to
   > > Sandy Eggo and rolled it (several times) down an embankment in
   > > Rosarito, Mexico. A 4 beer story.
   > > >
   > > >Dr Elachi, Director of JPL, still drives his green 240Z to work
   > > every day. A He loves that car. A It's kinda beat up and looks
   > > funny
   > > >parked in the "Director" A parking spot.
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
   > > > A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
   > > > A to contact us!"
   > > >
   > > >Terry W. Himes [cid:2CCD2A29-F833-46CD-9363-1D89E756830A]
   > > >JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   > > >Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
   > > >Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead Rosetta/MEX/VEX
   > > Sequence Team Lead
   > > >Phone: (818) 393-6261
   > > >Cell: A A (818) 653-8213
   > > >Fax: A A (818) 393-3147
   > > >[10]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[11]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   > > >d--od-,
   > > >
   > > >From: Rob Dumoulin
   > > <[12]rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:[13]rob at dumoulins.net>>
   > > >Date: Sunday, July 6, 2014 6:02 PM
   > > >To: Mikael
   > > <[14]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk<mailto:[15]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>>
   > > >Cc: "[16]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:[17]detomaso at poca.com>"
   > > <[18]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:[19]detomaso at poca.com>>, Pantera -
   > > Michael Shortt
   > >
   <[20]michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:[21]michael at michaelshortt.com>
   > > >
   > > >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dual Remote oil filters
   > > >
   > > >My 240Z had a secondary filter mounted on the fender wall. The
   > > filter was a roll of toilet paper lengthwise with feed and drain on
   > > top. It was set up so oil pooled in it rather than drained when
   > > motor was off. That way your pan always read accurate. It did not
   > > reduce oil pressure that I could notice and slowly filtered all the
   > > oil better than a regular filter. Car had over 250k miles when I
   > > sold her for a Porsche.
   > > >On Jul 6, 2014 1:36 PM, "Mikael"
   > > <[22]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk<mailto:[23]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>>
   > > wrote:
   > > >
   > > >Forgive my ignorance, but why two? Parallel or in series? In
   either
   > > case, what does this do to the pressure in the engine? All
   > > consequences understood?
   > > >
   > > >Mvh/Regards
   > > >Mikael
   > > >
   > > >-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
   > > >Fra:
   > > [24]michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:[25]michael at michaelshortt.com>
   > > [mailto:[26]michael at michaelshortt.com]
   > > >Sendt: 3. juli 2014 01:57
   > > >Til: [27]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:[28]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > >Emne: [DeTomaso] Dual Remote oil filters
   > > >
   > > >Has anyone mounted dual remote oil filters upside down over the
   > > bellhousing before? A I'm thinking about it. The idea of two big
   > > Orange FL-1 and some more AN fittings and more aeroquip
   > > hose....hmmmmm tasty looking.
   > > > A I already have an oil cooler I would have to incorporate after
   > > filtering.
   > > >
   > > >Michael Shortt
   > > >--
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >Michael L. Shortt
   > > >Savannah, Georgia
   > > >[29]www.michaelshortt.com
   > >
   >[30]michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:[31]michael at michaelshortt.com>
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   >
   > Message: 6
   > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:42:32 -0500
   > From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   > To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
   > Message-ID:
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   >
   > There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI. I'm
   not
   > home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
   >
   > Jeff
   >
   >
   > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman
   <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > wrote:
   >
   > > The only one I?ve heard of is from Kinsler. That?s a stretch,
   though. I
   > > believe it wasn?t a Weber. It was a full EFI.
   > >
   > > This post,
   > >
   http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all
   +C30
   > > 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it
   won?t fit,
   > > anyway.
   > >
   > > The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly Coffield,
   but the
   > > last I heard he wasn?t doing it again.
   > >
   > >
   > > On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
   > >
   > > > Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for Ford
   C302b
   > > > heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these
   heads but
   > > > have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3 heads
   which
   > > > have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a port
   width
   > > > of 1.25".
   > > > Thanks.
   > > > Boyd
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   > There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI. I'm
   > not home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
   > Jeff
   >
   > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman
   > <[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
   >
   > The only one IA^1ve heard of is from Kinsler. A ThatA^1s a stretch,
   > though. A I
   > believe it wasnA^1t a Weber. A It was a full EFI.
   > This post,
   > [2]http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K3
   > 51+all+C30
   > 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it
   > wonA^1t fit,
   > anyway.
   > The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly Coffield,
   > but the
   > last I heard he wasnA^1t doing it again.
   >
   > On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[3]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
   > > A Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for Ford
   > C302b
   > > A heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these
   > heads but
   > > A have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3 heads
   > which
   > > A have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a port
   > width
   > > A of 1.25".
   > > A Thanks.
   > > A Boyd
   >
   > >_______________________________________________
   > >
   > >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > >
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   > >[4]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > >[5]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > [6]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [7]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > 2.
   http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all
   +C30
   > 3. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
   > 4. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 5. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 7
   > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 15:29:47 -0700
   > From: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
   > To: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: [DeTomaso] Any Pantera People/Activities in the Reston, VA
   > area?
   > Message-ID:
   > <1404858587.30122.YahooMailNeo at web163205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
   >
   > I'm in town for a few days and would love to get together.? Email me
   off list.
   >
   > Cheers!
   > Garth
   > #4033 - The Banzai Runner Pantera
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > I'm in town for a few days and would love to get together. Email me
   > off list.
   > Cheers!
   > Garth
   > #4033 - The Banzai Runner Pantera
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 8
   > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 15:36:01 -0700
   > From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   > To: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>, Will Kooiman
   > <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
   > Message-ID: <BAY173-W2997C0DED71715777F691D950C0 at phx.gbl>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
   >
   > AussieSpeed make a Cleveland Weber IDF pattern manifold (reproduction
   of the old Cain pattern) it is for 2V heads with enough material to
   port to 4V, so you should be able to have it ported to match C302B's if
   you are set on those heads. You can do the reverse and epoxy (or weld)
   a 4V manifold to match or use port plates if you are set on an IDA
   pattern throttle body.
   >
   > As for heads I have heard really good reviews on Scott Cook's heads,
   although CHI come a close second. Figure out your overall investment
   for porting etc. versus just buying off the shelf bolt on components
   and you might find it's better to list the C302B's on eBay.
   >
   > Julian
   >
   > From: jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:42:32 -0500
   > To: will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > CC: detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
   >
   > There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI. I'm
   not
   > home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
   >
   > Jeff
   >
   >
   > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman
   <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > wrote:
   >
   > > The only one I?ve heard of is from Kinsler. That?s a stretch,
   though. I
   > > believe it wasn?t a Weber. It was a full EFI.
   > >
   > > This post,
   > >
   http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all
   +C30
   > > 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it
   won?t fit,
   > > anyway.
   > >
   > > The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly Coffield,
   but the
   > > last I heard he wasn?t doing it again.
   > >
   > >
   > > On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
   > >
   > > > Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for Ford
   C302b
   > > > heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these
   heads but
   > > > have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3 heads
   which
   > > > have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a port
   width
   > > > of 1.25".
   > > > Thanks.
   > > > Boyd
   > > >_______________________________________________
   > > >
   > > >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > > >
   > > >DeTomaso mailing list
   > > >DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > >http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > _______________________________________________
   > >
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   > >
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   > > DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   >
   > _______________________________________________
   >
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   >
   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > DeTomaso at poca.com
   > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > AussieSpeed make a Cleveland Weber IDF pattern manifold (reproduction
   > of the old Cain pattern) it is for 2V heads with enough material to
   > port to 4V, so you should be able to have it ported to match C302B's
   if
   > you are set on those heads. You can do the reverse and epoxy (or
   weld)
   > a 4V manifold to match or use port plates if you are set on an IDA
   > pattern throttle body.
   >
   > As for heads I have heard really good reviews on Scott Cook's heads,
   > although CHI come a close second. Figure out your overall investment
   > for porting etc. versus just buying off the shelf bolt on components
   > and you might find it's better to list the C302B's on eBay.
   >
   > Julian
   >
   > From: jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:42:32 -0500
   > To: will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > CC: detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
   > There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI. I'm
   not
   > home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
   >
   > Jeff
   >
   >
   > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman
   <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > wrote:
   >
   > > The only one I^1ve heard of is from Kinsler. That^1s a stretch,
   though. I
   > > believe it wasn^1t a Weber. It was a full EFI.
   > >
   > > This post,
   > >
   [1]http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+
   all+C30
   > > 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it
   won^1t fit,
   > > anyway.
   > >
   > > The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly Coffield,
   but the
   > > last I heard he wasn^1t doing it again.
   > >
   > >
   > > On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
   > >
   > > > Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for Ford
   C302b
   > > > heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these
   heads but
   > > > have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3 heads
   which
   > > > have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a port
   width
   > > > of 1.25".
   > > > Thanks.
   > > > Boyd
   > > >_______________________________________________
   > > >
   > > >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > > >
   > > >DeTomaso mailing list
   > > >DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > >[2]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > _______________________________________________
   > >
   > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > >
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   > > DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > [3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   >
   > _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum
   Managed
   > by POCA DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at poca.com
   > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1.
   http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all
   +C30
   > 2. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 9
   > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:48:43 -0600
   > From: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
   > To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   > Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
   > Message-ID: <05B262D7-C4E9-4E4F-A949-55EA30E50646 at gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
   >
   > There's another Australian company that makes a Cleveland manifold
   for the Weber IDA pattern but it's intended for 2V and 4V heads, not
   raised port heads like the C302B heads. The EFI Hardware manifold is a
   good alternative to the Hall Pantera Weber IDA manifold for EFI
   purposes.
   >
   > www.efihardware.com
   >
   > Corey
   >
   > Be prepared for sticker shock but they have good looking stuff. I
   don't know too much more.
   >
   >
   >
   > > On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   wrote:
   > >
   > > AussieSpeed make a Cleveland Weber IDF pattern manifold
   (reproduction
   > > of the old Cain pattern) it is for 2V heads with enough material to
   > > port to 4V, so you should be able to have it ported to match
   C302B's if
   > > you are set on those heads. You can do the reverse and epoxy (or
   weld)
   > > a 4V manifold to match or use port plates if you are set on an IDA
   > > pattern throttle body.
   > >
   > > As for heads I have heard really good reviews on Scott Cook's
   heads,
   > > although CHI come a close second. Figure out your overall
   investment
   > > for porting etc. versus just buying off the shelf bolt on
   components
   > > and you might find it's better to list the C302B's on eBay.
   > >
   > > Julian
   > >
   > > From: jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:42:32 -0500
   > > To: will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > > CC: detomaso at poca.com
   > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
   > > There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI.
   I'm not
   > > home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
   > >
   > > Jeff
   > >
   > >
   > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman
   <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > > wrote:
   > >
   > >> The only one I^1ve heard of is from Kinsler. That^1s a stretch,
   though. I
   > >> believe it wasn^1t a Weber. It was a full EFI.
   > >>
   > >> This post,
   > >>
   [1]http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+
   all+C30
   > >> 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it
   won^1t fit,
   > >> anyway.
   > >>
   > >> The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly Coffield,
   but the
   > >> last I heard he wasn^1t doing it again.
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>> On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
   > >>>
   > >>> Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for Ford
   C302b
   > >>> heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these
   heads but
   > >>> have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3 heads
   which
   > >>> have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a port
   width
   > >>> of 1.25".
   > >>> Thanks.
   > >>> Boyd
   > >>> _______________________________________________
   > >>>
   > >>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > >>>
   > >>> DeTomaso mailing list
   > >>> DeTomaso at poca.com
   > >>> [2]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> _______________________________________________
   > >>
   > >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > >>
   > >> DeTomaso mailing list
   > >> DeTomaso at poca.com
   > >> [3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > > _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum
   Managed
   > > by POCA DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > > References
   > >
   > > 1.
   http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all
   +C30
   > > 2. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > 3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > _______________________________________________
   > >
   > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > >
   > > DeTomaso mailing list
   > > DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   >
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 10
   > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 19:35:40 -0400
   > From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
   > To: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
   > Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
   > Message-ID:
   > <CALsQ=cvLsXsAaCxGfOCsP62dAPqW16irTnyKP4tVKaYt4mGxTA at mail.gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > I was able to get in touch with kelly and he has the parts left to
   assemble
   > another IR efi but his remaining manifold needs work. I have also
   located a
   > Pair of A3 heads and and SVO manifold with the correct port size for
   A3
   > heads. So it looks like my problem will be resolved one way or
   another.
   > Thanks for every ones help.
   > Boyd
   >
   >
   > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > > There's another Australian company that makes a Cleveland manifold
   for the
   > > Weber IDA pattern but it's intended for 2V and 4V heads, not raised
   port
   > > heads like the C302B heads. The EFI Hardware manifold is a good
   > > alternative to the Hall Pantera Weber IDA manifold for EFI
   purposes.
   > >
   > > www.efihardware.com
   > >
   > > Corey
   > >
   > > Be prepared for sticker shock but they have good looking stuff. I
   don't
   > > know too much more.
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > > On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   wrote:
   > > >
   > > > AussieSpeed make a Cleveland Weber IDF pattern manifold
   (reproduction
   > > > of the old Cain pattern) it is for 2V heads with enough material
   to
   > > > port to 4V, so you should be able to have it ported to match
   C302B's if
   > > > you are set on those heads. You can do the reverse and epoxy (or
   weld)
   > > > a 4V manifold to match or use port plates if you are set on an
   IDA
   > > > pattern throttle body.
   > > >
   > > > As for heads I have heard really good reviews on Scott Cook's
   heads,
   > > > although CHI come a close second. Figure out your overall
   investment
   > > > for porting etc. versus just buying off the shelf bolt on
   components
   > > > and you might find it's better to list the C302B's on eBay.
   > > >
   > > > Julian
   > > >
   > > > From: jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > > > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:42:32 -0500
   > > > To: will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > > > CC: detomaso at poca.com
   > > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
   > > > There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI.
   I'm not
   > > > home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
   > > >
   > > > Jeff
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman
   <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > > > wrote:
   > > >
   > > >> The only one I^1ve heard of is from Kinsler. That^1s a stretch,
   > > though. I
   > > >> believe it wasn^1t a Weber. It was a full EFI.
   > > >>
   > > >> This post,
   > > >> [1]
   > >
   http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all
   +C30
   > > >> 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it
   won^1t
   > > fit,
   > > >> anyway.
   > > >>
   > > >> The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly
   Coffield, but
   > > the
   > > >> last I heard he wasn^1t doing it again.
   > > >>
   > > >>
   > > >>> On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
   > > >>>
   > > >>> Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for
   Ford
   > > C302b
   > > >>> heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these
   heads
   > > but
   > > >>> have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3
   heads which
   > > >>> have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a
   port
   > > width
   > > >>> of 1.25".
   > > >>> Thanks.
   > > >>> Boyd
   > > >>> _______________________________________________
   > > >>>
   > > >>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > > >>>
   > > >>> DeTomaso mailing list
   > > >>> DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > >>> [2]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > >>
   > > >>
   > > >>
   > > >> _______________________________________________
   > > >>
   > > >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > > >>
   > > >> DeTomaso mailing list
   > > >> DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > >> [3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > >
   > > > _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum
   Managed
   > > > by POCA DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > >
   > > > References
   > > >
   > > > 1.
   > >
   http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all
   +C30
   > > > 2. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > > 3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > > _______________________________________________
   > > >
   > > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > > >
   > > > DeTomaso mailing list
   > > > DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > > _______________________________________________
   > >
   > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > >
   > > DeTomaso mailing list
   > > DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > I was able to get in touch with kelly and he has the parts left to
   > assemble another IR efi but his remaining manifold needs work. I have
   > also located a Pair of A3 heads and and SVO manifold with the correct
   > port size for A3 heads. So it looks like my problem will be resolved
   > one way or another. Thanks for every ones help.
   > Boyd
   >
   > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Corey Price
   <[1]coreyjprice at gmail.com>
   > wrote:
   >
   > There's another Australian company that makes a Cleveland manifold
   > for the Weber IDA pattern but it's intended for 2V and 4V heads, not
   > raised port heads like the C302B heads. A The EFI Hardware manifold
   > is a good alternative to the Hall Pantera Weber IDA manifold for EFI
   > purposes.
   > [2]www.efihardware.com
   > Corey
   > Be prepared for sticker shock but they have good looking stuff. I
   > don't know too much more.
   >
   > > On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Julian Kift
   <[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   > wrote:
   > >
   > > A AussieSpeed make a Cleveland Weber IDF pattern manifold
   > (reproduction
   > > A of the old Cain pattern) it is for 2V heads with enough material
   > to
   > > A port to 4V, so you should be able to have it ported to match
   > C302B's if
   > > A you are set on those heads. You can do the reverse and epoxy (or
   > weld)
   > > A a 4V manifold to match or use port plates if you are set on an
   IDA
   > > A pattern throttle body.
   > >
   > > A As for heads I have heard really good reviews on Scott Cook's
   > heads,
   > > A although CHI come a close second. Figure out your overall
   > investment
   > > A for porting etc. versus just buying off the shelf bolt on
   > components
   > > A and you might find it's better to list the C302B's on eBay.
   > >
   > > A Julian
   > >
   > > A From: [4]jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > > A Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:42:32 -0500
   > > A To: [5]will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > > A CC: [6]detomaso at poca.com
   > > A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
   > > There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI.
   I'm
   > not
   > > home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
   > >
   > > Jeff
   > >
   > >
   > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman
   > <[7]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > > wrote:
   > >
   > >> The only one I^1ve heard of is from Kinsler. A That^1s a stretch,
   > though. A I
   > >> believe it wasn^1t a Weber. A It was a full EFI.
   > >>
   > >> This post,
   > >>
   >
   [1][8]http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K3
   > 51+all+C30
   > >> 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it
   > won^1t fit,
   > >> anyway.
   > >>
   > >> The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly Coffield,
   > but the
   > >> last I heard he wasn^1t doing it again.
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>> On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[9]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
   > >>>
   > >>> A Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for
   Ford
   > C302b
   > >>> A heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these
   > heads but
   > >>> A have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3
   heads
   > which
   > >>> A have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a
   port
   > width
   > >>> A of 1.25".
   > >>> A Thanks.
   > >>> A Boyd
   > >>> _______________________________________________
   > >>>
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   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> _______________________________________________
   > >>
   > >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > >>
   > >> DeTomaso mailing list
   > >> [12]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > >> [3][13]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > > A _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum
   > Managed
   > > A by POCA DeTomaso mailing list [14]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > A [15]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > > References
   > >
   > > A 1.
   >
   [16]http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351
   > +all+C30
   > > A 2. [17]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > A 3. [18]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > _______________________________________________
   > >
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   > > [19]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > [20]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > [21]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [22]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:coreyjprice at gmail.com
   > 2. http://www.efihardware.com/
   > 3. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
   > 4. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > 5. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > 6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 7. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > 8.
   http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all
   +C30
   > 9. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
   > 10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 12. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 13. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 16.
   http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+all
   +C30
   > 17. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 19. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 20. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 11
   > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 19:57:38 -0400
   > From: Arjun Ghosh-Dastidar <arjun.ghoshdastidar at gmail.com>
   > To: Garth Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
   > Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Any Pantera People/Activities in the Reston,
   > VA area?
   > Message-ID:
   > <CAJQq=2w+hCrOGU+FKygR6DhRfA6E69XW3hYHYz3cWajMcHpoUw at mail.gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > Are you around through the weekend? If you are, come to Katies C&C on
   > Saturday morning. There's always a few Panteras in attendance.
   > On Jul 8, 2014 6:35 PM, "Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso"
   <detomaso at poca.com>
   > wrote:
   >
   > > I'm in town for a few days and would love to get together. Email me
   > > off list.
   > > Cheers!
   > > Garth
   > > #4033 - The Banzai Runner Pantera
   > >
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   > >
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   > >
   > >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > Are you around through the weekend? If you are, come to Katies C&C on
   > Saturday morning. There's always a few Panteras in attendance.
   >
   > On Jul 8, 2014 6:35 PM, "Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso"
   > <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
   >
   > A A I'm in town for a few days and would love to get together.
   > A Email me
   > A A off list.
   > A A Cheers!
   > A A Garth
   > A A #4033 - The Banzai Runner Pantera
   > _______________________________________________
   > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > [2]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [3]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 2. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 3. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 12
   > Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 21:43:59 -0400
   > From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>, Corey Price
   > <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
   > Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
   > Message-ID: <CFE21685.CC76%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
   >
   > Do the A3 heads. You will like them.
   >
   > On 7/8/14, 7:35 PM, "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
   >
   > > I was able to get in touch with kelly and he has the parts left to
   > > assemble another IR efi but his remaining manifold needs work. I
   have
   > > also located a Pair of A3 heads and and SVO manifold with the
   correct
   > > port size for A3 heads. So it looks like my problem will be
   resolved
   > > one way or another. Thanks for every ones help.
   > > Boyd
   > >
   > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Corey Price
   <[1]coreyjprice at gmail.com>
   > > wrote:
   > >
   > > There's another Australian company that makes a Cleveland manifold
   > > for the Weber IDA pattern but it's intended for 2V and 4V heads,
   not
   > > raised port heads like the C302B heads. A The EFI Hardware manifold
   > > is a good alternative to the Hall Pantera Weber IDA manifold for
   EFI
   > > purposes.
   > > [2]www.efihardware.com
   > > Corey
   > > Be prepared for sticker shock but they have good looking stuff. I
   > > don't know too much more.
   > >
   > > > On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Julian Kift
   <[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   > > wrote:
   > > >
   > > > A AussieSpeed make a Cleveland Weber IDF pattern manifold
   > > (reproduction
   > > > A of the old Cain pattern) it is for 2V heads with enough
   material
   > > to
   > > > A port to 4V, so you should be able to have it ported to match
   > > C302B's if
   > > > A you are set on those heads. You can do the reverse and epoxy
   (or
   > > weld)
   > > > A a 4V manifold to match or use port plates if you are set on an
   IDA
   > > > A pattern throttle body.
   > > >
   > > > A As for heads I have heard really good reviews on Scott Cook's
   > > heads,
   > > > A although CHI come a close second. Figure out your overall
   > > investment
   > > > A for porting etc. versus just buying off the shelf bolt on
   > > components
   > > > A and you might find it's better to list the C302B's on eBay.
   > > >
   > > > A Julian
   > > >
   > > > A From: [4]jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > > > A Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:42:32 -0500
   > > > A To: [5]will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > > > A CC: [6]detomaso at poca.com
   > > > A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Weber manifold for C302b heads
   > > > There is an Australian vendor of 2V 8 port heads suitable for FI.
   I'm
   > > not
   > > > home right now and don't remember the name. Julian?
   > > >
   > > > Jeff
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Will Kooiman
   > > <[7]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > > > wrote:
   > > >
   > > >> The only one I^1ve heard of is from Kinsler. A That^1s a
   stretch,
   > > though. A I
   > > >> believe it wasn^1t a Weber. A It was a full EFI.
   > > >>
   > > >> This post,
   > > >>
   > >
   [1][8]http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K3
   > > 51+all+C30
   > > >> 2+-------+Kinsler+Fuel+Injection+Doesn't+Fit!, suggests that it
   > > won^1t fit,
   > > >> anyway.
   > > >>
   > > >> The only other one is the batch of intakes made by Kelly
   Coffield,
   > > but the
   > > >> last I heard he wasn^1t doing it again.
   > > >>
   > > >>
   > > >>> On 7/3/14, 8:27 PM, "Boyd Casey" <[9]boyd411 at gmail.com> wrote:
   > > >>>
   > > >>> A Hi. Does anyone know where I might find a weber manifold for
   Ford
   > > C302b
   > > >>> A heads? I am trying to have a stack efi setup made using these
   > > heads but
   > > >>> A have only been able to find A Weber manifolds for 4v or A3
   heads
   > > which
   > > >>> A have a port width of 1.75" (at hall Pantera) The C302B has a
   port
   > > width
   > > >>> A of 1.25".
   > > >>> A Thanks.
   > > >>> A Boyd
   > > >>> _______________________________________________
   > > >>>
   > > >>> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > > >>>
   > > >>> DeTomaso mailing list
   > > >>> [10]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > >>> [2][11]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > >>
   > > >>
   > > >>
   > > >> _______________________________________________
   > > >>
   > > >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > > >>
   > > >> DeTomaso mailing list
   > > >> [12]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > >> [3][13]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > >
   > > > A _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum
   > > Managed
   > > > A by POCA DeTomaso mailing list [14]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > > A [15]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > >
   > > > References
   > > >
   > > > A 1.
   > >
   [16]http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351
   > > +all+C30
   > > > A 2. [17]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > > A 3. [18]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > > _______________________________________________
   > > >
   > > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > > >
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   > > > [19]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > > [20]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > _______________________________________________
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   > > [21]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > [22]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > >References
   > >
   > > 1. mailto:coreyjprice at gmail.com
   > > 2. http://www.efihardware.com/
   > > 3. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
   > > 4. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
   > > 5. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > > 6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > > 7. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > > 8.
   >
   >http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+al
   l+C3
   > >0
   > > 9. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
   > > 10. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > 11. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > 12. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > 13. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > 14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > 15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > 16.
   >
   >http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419/thread/1102880543/M-9424-K351+al
   l+C3
   > >0
   > > 17. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > 18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > 19. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > 20. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > 21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > 22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >_______________________________________________
   > >
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   >
   >
   >
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 13
   > Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 21:47:22 -0400
   > From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > To: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, Ken Green
   > <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > Message-ID: <CFE2174E.CC78%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
   >
   > Hideous comes to mind.
   >
   > On 7/8/14, 5:06 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   wrote:
   >
   > > Butt-face ugly. IHMO
   > >
   > > "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
   > >
   > > exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
   > >
   > > to contact us!"
   > >
   > > Terry W. Himes [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
   > >
   > > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   > >
   > > Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
   > >
   > > Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
   > >
   > > Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
   > >
   > > Phone: (818) 393-6261
   > >
   > > Cell: (818) 653-8213
   > >
   > > Fax: (818) 393-3147
   > >
   > > [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > >
   > > From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > Reply-To: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   > > Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
   > > To: detomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > >
   > >
   [5]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > > S_Cars_Trucks
   > >
   > >References
   > >
   > > 1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > > 2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > > 3. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > > 5.
   >
   >http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/29
   1185
   >
   >276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Car
   s_Tr
   > >ucks
   > >_______________________________________________
   > >
   > >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > >
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   > >DeTomaso at poca.com
   > >http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 14
   > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 22:00:51 -0400
   > From: Sean Korb <spkorb at gmail.com>
   > To: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > Message-ID:
   > <CABpzvs8rk1j4_M=LejoWCGiM_AJR7bfzGmHPiFe2Wxr_6i8qug at mail.gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > I'm more freaked out by the old instamatic fixed lens camera photos
   scanned
   > in. Can you even get instamatic film these days?
   >
   >
   > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > > Hideous comes to mind.
   > >
   > > On 7/8/14, 5:06 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)"
   <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   > > wrote:
   > >
   > > > Butt-face ugly. IHMO
   > > >
   > > > "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
   > > >
   > > > exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
   > > >
   > > > to contact us!"
   > > >
   > > > Terry W. Himes [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
   > > >
   > > > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   > > >
   > > > Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
   > > >
   > > > Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
   > > >
   > > > Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
   > > >
   > > > Phone: (818) 393-6261
   > > >
   > > > Cell: (818) 653-8213
   > > >
   > > > Fax: (818) 393-3147
   > > >
   > > > [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > > >
   > > > From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > > Reply-To: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   > > > Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
   > > > To: detomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > > >
   > > > [5]
   > >
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > > >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > > > S_Cars_Trucks
   > > >
   > > >References
   > > >
   > > > 1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > > > 2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > > > 3. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > > > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > > > 5.
   > > >
   > >
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291
   185
   > >
   >276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Car
   s_Tr
   > > >ucks
   > > >_______________________________________________
   > > >
   > > >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > > >
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   > > >DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > >http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > _______________________________________________
   > >
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   > >
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   > > DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   >
   >
   >
   > --
   > Sean Korb spkorb at spkorb.org http://www.spkorb.org
   > '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
   #1382
   > "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
   > "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > I'm more freaked out by the old instamatic fixed lens camera photos
   > scanned in.A Can you even get instamatic film these days?
   >
   > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Will Kooiman
   > <[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
   >
   > Hideous comes to mind.
   >
   > On 7/8/14, 5:06 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)"
   <[2]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   > wrote:
   > > A Butt-face ugly. A IHMO
   > >
   > > A "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
   > >
   > > A A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
   > >
   > > A A to contact us!"
   > >
   > > A Terry W. Himes A [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
   > >
   > > A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   > >
   > > A Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
   > >
   > > A Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
   > >
   > > A Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
   > >
   > > A Phone: [3](818) 393-6261
   > >
   > > A Cell: A A [4](818) 653-8213
   > >
   > > A Fax: A A [5](818) 393-3147
   > >
   > > A [1][6]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > >
   > > A From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2][7]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > A Reply-To: Ken Green <[3][8]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   > > A Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
   > > A To: detomaso <[4][9]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > A Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > >
   > > A
   >
   [5][10]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pante
   > ra-/
   > > A
   >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > > A S_Cars_Trucks
   > >
   > >References
   > >
   > > A 1. mailto:[11]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > > A 2. mailto:[12]detomaso at poca.com
   > > A 3. mailto:[13]kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > > A 4. mailto:[14]detomaso at poca.com
   > > A 5.
   >
   >[15]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera
   > -/291185
   >
   >276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Car
   > s_Tr
   > >ucks
   >
   > >_______________________________________________
   > >
   > >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > >
   > >DeTomaso mailing list
   > >[16]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > >[17]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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   > DeTomaso mailing list
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   >
   > --
   > Sean Korb [20]spkorb at spkorb.org [21]http://www.spkorb.org
   > '65,'68 Mustangs,'68 Cougar,'78 R100/7,'60 Metro,'59 A35,'71 Pantera
   > #1382
   > "The more you drive, the less intelligent you get" --Miller
   > "Computers are useless.A They can only give you answers." -P. Picasso
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > 2. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > 3. tel:%28818%29%20393-6261
   > 4. tel:%28818%29%20653-8213
   > 5. tel:%28818%29%20393-3147
   > 6. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > 7. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 8. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > 9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 10.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > 11. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > 12. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 13. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > 14. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 15.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291
   185
   > 16. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 17. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 18. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 19. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 20. mailto:spkorb at spkorb.org
   > 21. http://www.spkorb.org/
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 15
   > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 02:03:56 +0000
   > From: "Bill Moore" <bill at incendium.com>
   > To: "Will Kooiman" <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, "DeTomaso"
   > <detomaso-bounces at poca.com>, "Himes, Terry (397C)"
   > <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, "Ken Green" <kenn_green at yahoo.com>,
   > "DeTomaso List" <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > Message-ID:
   >
   <1469372778-1404871438-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1860305
   277- at b15.c6.bise6.blackberry>
   >
   > Content-Type: text/plain
   >
   > Crush it.
   > Bill Moore
   > Incendium Supply
   > Calgary
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > Sender: "DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at poca.com>Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014
   21:47:22
   > To: Himes, Terry (397C)<terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>; Ken
   Green<kenn_green at yahoo.com>; detomaso<detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   >
   > Hideous comes to mind.
   >
   > On 7/8/14, 5:06 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   wrote:
   >
   > > Butt-face ugly. IHMO
   > >
   > > "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
   > >
   > > exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
   > >
   > > to contact us!"
   > >
   > > Terry W. Himes [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
   > >
   > > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   > >
   > > Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
   > >
   > > Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
   > >
   > > Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
   > >
   > > Phone: (818) 393-6261
   > >
   > > Cell: (818) 653-8213
   > >
   > > Fax: (818) 393-3147
   > >
   > > [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > >
   > > From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > Reply-To: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   > > Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
   > > To: detomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > >
   > >
   [5]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > > S_Cars_Trucks
   > >
   > >References
   > >
   > > 1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > > 2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > > 3. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > > 5.
   >
   >http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/29
   1185
   >
   >276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Car
   s_Tr
   > >ucks
   > >_______________________________________________
   > >
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   > >
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   > >DeTomaso at poca.com
   > >http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   >
   >
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   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 16
   > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 22:09:10 -0400
   > From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
   > To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > Message-ID:
   > <CALsQ=ctJexiwVZbtoO_quwcXBVv7AavF_CZ4QLpFzucNHbkgXw at mail.gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > Aside from the "looks" who really knows what lies behind the "foam
   and
   > Bondo", the mystery box in chicago, and the ZF in Biloxi? The current
   bids
   > in the $2000 range are an indication that the veritable "sucker born
   every
   > minute"" is even too smart to bite on this one!
   > Boyd
   >
   >
   > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > > Hideous comes to mind.
   > >
   > > On 7/8/14, 5:06 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)"
   <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   > > wrote:
   > >
   > > > Butt-face ugly. IHMO
   > > >
   > > > "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
   > > >
   > > > exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
   > > >
   > > > to contact us!"
   > > >
   > > > Terry W. Himes [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
   > > >
   > > > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   > > >
   > > > Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
   > > >
   > > > Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
   > > >
   > > > Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
   > > >
   > > > Phone: (818) 393-6261
   > > >
   > > > Cell: (818) 653-8213
   > > >
   > > > Fax: (818) 393-3147
   > > >
   > > > [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > > >
   > > > From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > > Reply-To: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   > > > Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
   > > > To: detomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > > >
   > > > [5]
   > >
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > > >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > > > S_Cars_Trucks
   > > >
   > > >References
   > > >
   > > > 1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > > > 2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > > > 3. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > > > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > > > 5.
   > > >
   > >
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   185
   > >
   >276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Car
   s_Tr
   > > >ucks
   > > >_______________________________________________
   > > >
   > > >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > > >
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   > > >DeTomaso at poca.com
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   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > _______________________________________________
   > >
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   > >
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   > > DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > Aside from the "looks" A who really knows what lies behind the "foam
   > and Bondo", the mystery box in chicago, and the ZF in Biloxi? The
   > current bids in the $2000 range are an indication that the veritable
   > "sucker born every minute"" is even too smart to bite on this one!
   > Boyd
   >
   > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Will Kooiman
   > <[1]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
   >
   > Hideous comes to mind.
   >
   > On 7/8/14, 5:06 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)"
   <[2]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   > wrote:
   > > A Butt-face ugly. A IHMO
   > >
   > > A "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
   > >
   > > A A exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
   > >
   > > A A to contact us!"
   > >
   > > A Terry W. Himes A [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
   > >
   > > A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   > >
   > > A Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
   > >
   > > A Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
   > >
   > > A Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
   > >
   > > A Phone: [3](818) 393-6261
   > >
   > > A Cell: A A [4](818) 653-8213
   > >
   > > A Fax: A A [5](818) 393-3147
   > >
   > > A [1][6]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > >
   > > A From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2][7]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > A Reply-To: Ken Green <[3][8]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   > > A Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
   > > A To: detomaso <[4][9]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > A Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > >
   > > A
   >
   [5][10]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pante
   > ra-/
   > > A
   >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > > A S_Cars_Trucks
   > >
   > >References
   > >
   > > A 1. mailto:[11]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > > A 2. mailto:[12]detomaso at poca.com
   > > A 3. mailto:[13]kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > > A 4. mailto:[14]detomaso at poca.com
   > > A 5.
   >
   >[15]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera
   > -/291185
   >
   >276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Car
   > s_Tr
   > >ucks
   >
   > >_______________________________________________
   > >
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   > >
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   > >[16]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > >[17]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > _______________________________________________
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   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > [18]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [19]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > 2. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > 3. tel:%28818%29%20393-6261
   > 4. tel:%28818%29%20653-8213
   > 5. tel:%28818%29%20393-3147
   > 6. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > 7. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 8. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > 9. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 10.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > 11. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > 12. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 13. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > 14. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 15.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291
   185
   > 16. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 17. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 18. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 19. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 17
   > Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 22:58:37 -0400
   > From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > To: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
   > Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > Message-ID: <CFE227E1.CC98%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
   >
   > Well darn. I entered a bid of $3,005, but someone has a higher max
   bid
   > (instantly outbid).
   >
   > I guess it?s going to go for more than $3,000. I figured it?s worth
   that
   > much in recycled foam.
   >
   > From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
   > Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 at 10:09 PM
   > To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > Cc: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, Ken Green
   > <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   >
   > Aside from the "looks" who really knows what lies behind the "foam
   and
   > Bondo", the mystery box in chicago, and the ZF in Biloxi? The current
   bids
   > in the $2000 range are an indication that the veritable "sucker born
   every
   > minute"" is even too smart to bite on this one!
   > Boyd
   >
   >
   > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   > > Hideous comes to mind.
   > >
   > > On 7/8/14, 5:06 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)"
   <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
   > >
   > >> > Butt-face ugly. IHMO
   > >> >
   > >> > "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
   > >> >
   > >> > exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
   > >> >
   > >> > to contact us!"
   > >> >
   > >> > Terry W. Himes [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
   > >> >
   > >> > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   > >> >
   > >> > Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
   > >> >
   > >> > Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
   > >> >
   > >> > Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
   > >> >
   > >> > Phone: (818) 393-6261 <tel:%28818%29%20393-6261>
   > >> >
   > >> > Cell: (818) 653-8213 <tel:%28818%29%20653-8213>
   > >> >
   > >> > Fax: (818) 393-3147 <tel:%28818%29%20393-3147>
   > >> >
   > >> > [1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > >> >
   > >> > From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at poca.com>
   > >> > Reply-To: Ken Green <[3]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   > >> > Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
   > >> > To: detomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
   > >> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > >> >
   > >> >
   [5]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > >> >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > >> > S_Cars_Trucks
   > >> >
   > >> >References
   > >> >
   > >> > 1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > >> > 2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > >> > 3. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > >> > 4. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > >> > 5.
   > >>
   >http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/29
   1185
   > >>
   >276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Car
   s_Tr
   > >> >ucks
   > >> >_______________________________________________
   > >> >
   > >> >Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > >> >
   > >> >DeTomaso mailing list
   > >> >DeTomaso at poca.com
   > >> >http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > _______________________________________________
   > >
   > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > >
   > > DeTomaso mailing list
   > > DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   >
   >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > Well darn. I entered a bid of $3,005, but someone has a higher max
   bid
   > (instantly outbid).
   >
   > I guess it's going to go for more than $3,000. I figured it's worth
   > that much in recycled foam.
   >
   > From: Boyd Casey <[1]boyd411 at gmail.com>
   > Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 at 10:09 PM
   > To: Will Kooiman <[2]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
   > Cc: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[3]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>, Ken Green
   > <[4]kenn_green at yahoo.com>, detomaso <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   >
   > Aside from the "looks" who really knows what lies behind the "foam
   and
   > Bondo", the mystery box in chicago, and the ZF in Biloxi? The current
   > bids in the $2000 range are an indication that the veritable "sucker
   > born every minute"" is even too smart to bite on this one!
   > Boyd
   >
   > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Will Kooiman
   > <[6]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
   >
   > Hideous comes to mind.
   >
   > On 7/8/14, 5:06 PM, "Himes, Terry (397C)"
   <[7]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   > wrote:
   > > Butt-face ugly. IHMO
   > >
   > > "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
   > >
   > > exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
   > >
   > > to contact us!"
   > >
   > > Terry W. Himes [cid:99F3DB94-A177-4978-9D95-07116CA6C196]
   > >
   > > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   > >
   > > Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
   > >
   > > Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead
   > >
   > > Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team Lead
   > >
   > > Phone: [8](818) 393-6261
   > >
   > > Cell: [9](818) 653-8213
   > >
   > > Fax: [10](818) 393-3147
   > >
   > > [1][11]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > >
   > > From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <[2][12]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > Reply-To: Ken Green <[3][13]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   > > Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:35 PM
   > > To: detomaso <[4][14]detomaso at poca.com>
   > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > >
   > >
   >
   [5][15]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pante
   > ra-/
   > >
   >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > > S_Cars_Trucks
   > >
   > >References
   > >
   > > 1. mailto:[16]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > > 2. mailto:[17]detomaso at poca.com
   > > 3. mailto:[18]kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > > 4. mailto:[19]detomaso at poca.com
   > > 5.
   >
   >[20]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera
   > -/291185
   >
   >276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_Car
   > s_Tr
   > >ucks
   >
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   > >
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   > [23]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [24]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
   > 2. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > 3. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > 4. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > 5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 6. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
   > 7. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > 8. tel:%28818%29%20393-6261
   > 9. tel:%28818%29%20653-8213
   > 10. tel:%28818%29%20393-3147
   > 11. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > 12. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 13. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > 14. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 15.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > 16. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   > 17. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 18. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > 19. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 20.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291
   185
   > 21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 23. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 24. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 18
   > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 23:04:59 -0400 (EDT)
   > From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
   > To: thomas at hax.se, kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > Cc: detomaso at poca.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > Message-ID: <8D16939B453282C-1AA4-1255C at webmail-m288.sysops.aol.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
   >
   >
   > I'm seeing Ferrari 355 styling cues and an F40 rear spoiler.
   >
   > I also wonder if its a photoshop creation and there is no such car.
   >
   > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > > S_Cars_Trucks
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: thomas <thomas at hax.se>
   > To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   > Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:49 pm
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   >
   >
   > Like Mike should have said: "Kill it with fire!"
   >
   > > 8 jul 2014 kl. 22:35 skrev Ken Green via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at poca.com>:
   > >
   > >
   [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > > S_Cars_Trucks
   > >
   > > References
   > >
   > > 1.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291
   185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_C
   ars_Trucks
   > >
   > >
   > > !DSPAM:53bc564727607307228636!
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   > >
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   > >
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   > > DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
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   >
   > _______________________________________________
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   > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > I'm seeing Ferrari 355 styling cues and an F40 rear spoiler.
   >
   >
   >
   > I also wonder if its a photoshop creation and there is no such car.
   >
   >
   [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > > S_Cars_Trucks
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: thomas <thomas at hax.se>
   > To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   > Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:49 pm
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > Like Mike should have said: "Kill it with fire!"
   >
   > > 8 jul 2014 kl. 22:35 skrev Ken Green via DeTomaso
   <[2]detomaso at poca.com>:
   > >
   > >
   [1][3]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-panter
   a-/
   > >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > > S_Cars_Trucks
   > >
   > > References
   > >
   > > 1.
   [4]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   29
   >
   1185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_
   Cars_Truc
   > ks
   > >
   > >
   > > !DSPAM:53bc564727607307228636!
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   > >
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   > >
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   > > [5]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > [6]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
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   >
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   > [7]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [8]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > 2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 3.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > 4.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291
   185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_C
   ars_Trucks
   > 5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 7. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 8. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 19
   > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 23:22:29 -0400
   > From: Boyd Casey <boyd411 at gmail.com>
   > To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
   > Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
   > <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > Message-ID:
   > <CALsQ=ctuKZcX08Pv43KX6oZc4vybRuwttHrRkmgqq5LCHEgB=g at mail.gmail.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > Pantdino,
   > Well that's the one good thing about ebay and Paypal you are
   protected and
   > especially for a car , your bid is not binding until you take a look
   at the
   > car and agree to take physical delivery. . If the body isn't a
   wrecked rust
   > bucket underneath the "foam and bondo" and the ZF has been stored
   properly
   > (granted two big ifs) there is potential for it to be a deal if the
   bidding
   > doesn't get crazy!. I'd like to know how they are going to work out
   > satisfaction of proof of delivery when you have parts coming from all
   over
   > the country? This may be some new kind of scam.
   > Boyd
   >
   >
   > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Pantdino via DeTomaso
   <detomaso at poca.com>
   > wrote:
   >
   > > I'm seeing Ferrari 355 styling cues and an F40 rear spoiler.
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > I also wonder if its a photoshop creation and there is no such car.
   > >
   > >
   [1]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > > >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > > > S_Cars_Trucks
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > -----Original Message-----
   > > From: thomas <thomas at hax.se>
   > > To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   > > Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
   > > Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:49 pm
   > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   > > Like Mike should have said: "Kill it with fire!"
   > >
   > > > 8 jul 2014 kl. 22:35 skrev Ken Green via DeTomaso
   <[2]detomaso at poca.com
   > > >:
   > > >
   > > > [1][3]
   > >
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > > >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > > > S_Cars_Trucks
   > > >
   > > > References
   > > >
   > > > 1. [4]
   > >
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/29
   > >
   > >
   1185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_
   Cars_Truc
   > > ks
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > !DSPAM:53bc564727607307228636!
   > > > _______________________________________________
   > > >
   > > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > > >
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   > > > [5]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > > [6]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > !DSPAM:53bc564727607307228636!
   > >
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   > >
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   > >
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   > > [7]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > [8]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > > References
   > >
   > > 1.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > > 2. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > > 3.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > > 4.
   > >
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291
   185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_C
   ars_Trucks
   > > 5. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > 6. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > > 7. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > 8. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > > _______________________________________________
   > >
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   > >
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   > > DeTomaso at poca.com
   > > http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > Pantdino,
   > Well that's the one good thing about ebay and Paypal you are
   protected
   > and especially for a car , your bid is not binding until you take a
   > look at the car and agree to take physical delivery. . If the body
   > isn't a wrecked rust bucket underneath the "foam and bondo" and the
   ZF
   > has been stored properly (granted two big ifs) there is potential for
   > it to be a deal if the bidding doesn't get crazy!. I'd like to know
   how
   > they are going to work out satisfaction of proof of delivery when you
   > have parts coming from all over the country? This may be some new
   kind
   > of scam.
   > Boyd
   >
   > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Pantdino via DeTomaso
   > <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
   >
   > A A I'm seeing Ferrari 355 styling cues and an F40 rear spoiler.
   > A A I also wonder if its a photoshop creation and there is no such
   > car.
   >
   >
   [1][2]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-panter
   > a-/
   > > A
   >
   291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=U
   > > A S_Cars_Trucks
   >
   > A A -----Original Message-----
   > A A From: thomas <[3]thomas at hax.se>
   > A A To: Ken Green <[4]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
   > A A Cc: detomaso <[5]detomaso at poca.com>
   > A A Sent: Tue, Jul 8, 2014 1:49 pm
   > A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera with a nossssse job???
   >
   > Like Mike should have said: "Kill it with fire!"
   >
   > > 8 jul 2014 kl. 22:35 skrev Ken Green via DeTomaso
   > <[2][6]detomaso at poca.com>:
   > >
   > > A
   > [1][3][7]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-
   > pantera-/
   > > A
   > 291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&p
   > t=U
   > > A S_Cars_Trucks
   > >
   > > References
   > >
   > > A 1.
   > [4][8]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pan
   > tera-/29
   > 1185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=
   > US_Cars_Truc
   >
   > ks
   > >
   > >
   > > !DSPAM:53bc564727607307228636!
   > > _______________________________________________
   > >
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   >
   > > [5][9]DeTomaso at poca.com
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   >
   > >
   > >
   > > !DSPAM:53bc564727607307228636!
   > _______________________________________________
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   > DeTomaso mailing list
   >
   > [7][11]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [8][12]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > References
   > A A 1.
   > [13]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pante
   > ra-/
   > A A 2. mailto:[14]detomaso at poca.com
   > A A 3.
   > [15]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pante
   > ra-/
   > A A 4.
   > [16]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pante
   > ra-/291185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=2911852768
   > 46&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
   > A A 5. mailto:[17]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > A A 6. [18]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > A A 7. mailto:[19]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > A A 8. [20]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > _______________________________________________
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   > DeTomaso mailing list
   > [21]DeTomaso at poca.com
   > [22]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 2.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > 3. mailto:thomas at hax.se
   > 4. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
   > 5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 7.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > 8.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291
   185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_C
   ars_Truc
   > 9. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 10. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 11. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 12. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 13.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > 14. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 15.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/
   > 16.
   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-PANTERA-1972-de-tomaso-pantera-/291
   185276846?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43cbfeb7ae&item=291185276846&pt=US_C
   ars_Trucks
   > 17. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 18. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 19. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 20. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > 21. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 22. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   >
   > ------------------------------
   >
   > Message: 20
   > Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 00:33:51 -0700
   > From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
   > To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   > Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Inglese Versus Hilborn IR 8 Stack EFI or?
   > Message-ID: <277F0B10-A412-4134-BE3A-88962833CFDA at mac.com>
   > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   >
   > Thank you Julian.
   >
   > Does anyone have a 351C 2V Weber IDA or IDF or Inglese 8 stack
   manifold for sale? Any specific for EFI with vacuum capabilities?
   Anyone have an 8 stack EFI system used maybe? I have a 351C with CHI 3V
   heads so need the 2V manifold and then I can port match. As I said I am
   running the FAST EFI and they make a harness to plug right into my
   existing harness.
   >
   > Thanks, Ed Mendez?
   >
   > On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:56, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > > When you say Inglese it is worth distinguishing that there are
   essentially two Inglese companies; Jim Inglese sold out to Comp Cams
   which is now operated as Inglese Induction www.inglese.com with no
   input from Jim who has since restarted his own business under Jim
   Inglese www.jiminglese.com Jim focuses on Weber Carb based systems and
   will custom design a bolt on solution given your engine specs. He is an
   extremely knowledgeable and helpful guy in my experience.
   > >
   > > For a low profile manifold (assuming you have a Cleveland that is)
   the best one to use is the AussieSpeed 48IDF manifold, it allows the
   use of 48IDF 8 stack carbs with air filters all to fit under the engine
   screen with no decklid cutting. It is a reproduction of the Cain 48IDF
   manifold. You can of course use it for EFI with IDF pattern throttle
   bodies.
   > >
   > > Recent threads have discussed the TWM/Borla options I believe and
   you should probably also consider Kinsler.
   > >
   > > Julian
   > >
   > > > From: edducati at mac.com
   > > > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 22:06:02 -0700
   > > > To: detomaso at poca.com
   > > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Inglese Versus Hilborn IR 8 Stack EFI or?
   > > >
   > > > Anyone have any opinions about these two units?
   > > >
   > > > Any others you would recommend? low profile if possible to put my
   engine cover back on?.
   > > >
   > > > Will be using the FAST XFI or EZ EFI since I already have a
   EZ-EFI 2.0.
   > > >
   > > > By the way, my FAST EZ 2.0 runs perfect no issues, I just want an
   8 stack...
   > > >
   > > > Thanks, Ed
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   >
   > -------------- next part --------------
   > Thank you Julian.
   >
   > Does anyone have a 351C 2V Weber IDA or IDF or Inglese 8 stack
   manifold
   > for sale? Any specific for EFI with vacuum capabilities... Anyone
   have
   > an 8 stack EFI system used maybe? I have a 351C with CHI 3V heads so
   > need the 2V manifold and then I can port match. As I said I am
   running
   > the FAST EFI and they make a harness to plug right into my existing
   > harness.
   >
   > Thanks, Ed Mendez
   >
   > On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:56, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   > wrote:
   >
   > When you say Inglese it is worth distinguishing that there are
   > essentially two Inglese companies; Jim Inglese sold out to Comp Cams
   > which is now operated as Inglese Induction [2]www.inglese.com with no
   > input from Jim who has since restarted his own business under Jim
   > Inglese [3]www.jiminglese.com Jim focuses on Weber Carb based
   > systems and will custom design a bolt on solution given your engine
   > specs. He is an extremely knowledgeable and helpful guy in my
   > experience.
   >
   > For a low profile manifold (assuming you have a Cleveland that is)
   the
   > best one to use is the AussieSpeed 48IDF manifold, it allows the use
   > of 48IDF 8 stack carbs with air filters all to fit under the engine
   > screen with no decklid cutting. It is a reproduction of the Cain
   48IDF
   > manifold. You can of course use it for EFI with IDF pattern throttle
   > bodies.
   >
   > Recent threads have discussed the TWM/Borla options I believe and you
   > should probably also consider Kinsler.
   >
   > Julian
   >
   > > From: [4]edducati at mac.com
   > > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 22:06:02 -0700
   > > To: [5]detomaso at poca.com
   > > Subject: [DeTomaso] Inglese Versus Hilborn IR 8 Stack EFI or?
   > >
   > > Anyone have any opinions about these two units?
   > >
   > > Any others you would recommend? low profile if possible to put my
   > engine cover back on....
   > >
   > > Will be using the FAST XFI or EZ EFI since I already have a EZ-EFI
   > 2.0.
   > >
   > > By the way, my FAST EZ 2.0 runs perfect no issues, I just want an 8
   > stack...
   > >
   > > Thanks, Ed
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   > References
   >
   > 1. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
   > 2. http://www.inglese.com/
   > 3. http://www.jiminglese.com/
   > 4. mailto:edducati at mac.com
   > 5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
   > 6. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
   > 7. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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