[DeTomaso] Pre Pantera Datsun Z cars was Dual Remote oil filters

Mon Jul 7 08:33:08 EDT 2014

 I bought a brand new 280Z right after I accepted a job offer a month before I graduated college.  I was pretty hot stuff driving the Z around campus for that month.  I loved that car.

It started showing some rust after four years so I traded it in to buy a Mazda RX-7, which I autocrossed.  I saw two Panteras at a big autocross in 1986 and decided then and there to get rid of the Mazda and get a Pantera.

Best car decision I ever made.

Tom
5186

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
To: 'Himes, Terry (397C)' (397C)' <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>; 'Rob Dumoulin' <rob at dumoulins.net>; 'Mikael' <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>
Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>; 'Pantera - Michael Shortt' <michael at michaelshortt.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 7, 2014 7:08 am
Subject: [DeTomaso] Pre Pantera Datsun Z cars was Dual Remote oil filters

Dear Rob and Terry,

                Interesting.  I owed a 260Z modified with headers and side draft 
Webers and suspension mods.  I then bought it a stable mate, a 280Z, for my dear 
wife.  Both were sold on the road to Panteras.  I saw a couple of Zs at 
Cars&Coffee Saturday.

                        Warmest regards, Chuck Engles

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Himes, Terry 
(397C)
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 9:16 PM
To: Rob Dumoulin; Mikael
Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Pantera - Michael Shortt
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dual Remote oil filters

Wow!   Small world. I had a 280Z and sold it for a Porsche.   No fancy toilet 
paper oil filter tho.  I got 256k
miles on mine and sold it for $500.  Then bought a Porsche 944.  When I bought 
the 280Z (1981) the guy had a beautiful  Pantera but would not budge from the 
$25,000. price tag (1981), was way to much for me.  That was in Philly.  Loved 
that Porsche, moved to Sandy Eggo and rolled it (several times) down an 
embankment in Rosarito, Mexico.  4 beer story.

Dr Elachi, Director of JPL, still drives his green 240Z to work every day.  He 
loves that car.   It's kinda beat up and looks funny
parked in the "Director"  parking spot.

"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
  exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
  to contact us!"

Terry W. Himes [cid:2CCD2A29-F833-46CD-9363-1D89E756830A]
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team 
Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell:     (818) 653-8213
Fax:     (818) 393-3147
thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>

From: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>
Date: Sunday, July 6, 2014 6:02 PM
To: Mikael <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk<mailto:mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>>
Cc: "detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>" <detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>, 
Pantera - Michael Shortt <michael at michaelshortt.com<mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dual Remote oil filters

My 240Z had a secondary filter mounted on the fender wall. The filter was a roll 
of toilet paper lengthwise with feed and drain on top. It was set up so oil 
pooled in it rather than drained when motor was off. That way your pan always 
read accurate. It did not reduce oil pressure that I could notice and slowly 
filtered all the oil better than a regular filter. Car had over 250k miles when 
I sold her for a Porsche.
On Jul 6, 2014 1:36 PM, "Mikael" <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk<mailto:mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>> 
wrote:

Forgive my ignorance, but why two? Parallel or in series? In either case, what 
does this do to the pressure in the engine? All consequences understood?

Mvh/Regards
Mikael

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[mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com]
Sendt: 3. juli 2014 01:57
Til: detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
Emne: [DeTomaso] Dual Remote oil filters

Has anyone mounted dual remote oil filters upside down over the bellhousing 
before?  I'm thinking about it. The idea of two big Orange FL-1 and some more AN 
fittings and more aeroquip hose....hmmmmm tasty looking.
  I already have an oil cooler I would have to incorporate after filtering.

Michael Shortt
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   I bought a brand new 280Z right after I accepted a job offer a month
   before I graduated college.  I was pretty hot stuff driving the Z
   around campus for that month.  I loved that car.
   It started showing some rust after four years so I traded it in to buy
   a Mazda RX-7, which I autocrossed.  I saw two Panteras at a big
   autocross in 1986 and decided then and there to get rid of the Mazda
   and get a Pantera.
   Best car decision I ever made.
   Tom
   5186

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
   To: 'Himes, Terry (397C)' (397C)' <terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>; 'Rob
   Dumoulin' <rob at dumoulins.net>; 'Mikael' <mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>
   Cc: detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>; 'Pantera - Michael Shortt'
   <michael at michaelshortt.com>
   Sent: Mon, Jul 7, 2014 7:08 am
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Pre Pantera Datsun Z cars was Dual Remote oil
   filters
Dear Rob and Terry,

                Interesting.  I owed a 260Z modified with headers and side draft

Webers and suspension mods.  I then bought it a stable mate, a 280Z, for my dear

wife.  Both were sold on the road to Panteras.  I saw a couple of Zs at
Cars&Coffee Saturday.

                        Warmest regards, Chuck Engles

-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Himes, Terry
(397C)
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 9:16 PM
To: Rob Dumoulin; Mikael
Cc: [2]detomaso at poca.com; Pantera - Michael Shortt
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dual Remote oil filters

Wow!   Small world. I had a 280Z and sold it for a Porsche.   No fancy toilet
paper oil filter tho.  I got 256k
miles on mine and sold it for $500.  Then bought a Porsche 944.  When I bought
the 280Z (1981) the guy had a beautiful  Pantera but would not budge from the
$25,000. price tag (1981), was way to much for me.  That was in Philly.  Loved
that Porsche, moved to Sandy Eggo and rolled it (several times) down an
embankment in Rosarito, Mexico.  4 beer story.

Dr Elachi, Director of JPL, still drives his green 240Z to work every day.  He
loves that car.   It's kinda beat up and looks funny
parked in the "Director"  parking spot.

"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
  exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
  to contact us!"

Terry W. Himes [cid:2CCD2A29-F833-46CD-9363-1D89E756830A]
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Deep Impact Sequence Team Lead
Deep Impact Spacecraft Engineer & Activity Lead Rosetta/MEX/VEX Sequence Team
Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell:     (818) 653-8213
Fax:     (818) 393-3147
[3]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov<[4]mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>

From: Rob Dumoulin <[5]rob at dumoulins.net<[6]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>
Date: Sunday, July 6, 2014 6:02 PM
To: Mikael <[7]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk<[8]mailto:mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk>>
Cc: "[9]detomaso at poca.com<[10]mailto:detomaso at poca.com>" <[11]detomaso at poca.com<
[12]mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>,
Pantera - Michael Shortt <[13]michael at michaelshortt.com<[14]mailto:michael at micha
elshortt.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dual Remote oil filters

My 240Z had a secondary filter mounted on the fender wall. The filter was a roll

of toilet paper lengthwise with feed and drain on top. It was set up so oil
pooled in it rather than drained when motor was off. That way your pan always
read accurate. It did not reduce oil pressure that I could notice and slowly
filtered all the oil better than a regular filter. Car had over 250k miles when
I sold her for a Porsche.
On Jul 6, 2014 1:36 PM, "Mikael" <[15]mikael_hass at mail.tele.dk<[16]mailto:mikael
_hass at mail.tele.dk>>
wrote:

Forgive my ignorance, but why two? Parallel or in series? In either case, what
does this do to the pressure in the engine? All consequences understood?

Mvh/Regards
Mikael

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Fra: [17]michael at michaelshortt.com<[18]mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>
[[19]mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com]
Sendt: 3. juli 2014 01:57
Til: [20]detomaso at poca.com<[21]mailto:detomaso at poca.com>
Emne: [DeTomaso] Dual Remote oil filters

Has anyone mounted dual remote oil filters upside down over the bellhousing
before?  I'm thinking about it. The idea of two big Orange FL-1 and some more AN

fittings and more aeroquip hose....hmmmmm tasty looking.
  I already have an oil cooler I would have to incorporate after filtering.

Michael Shortt
--

Michael L. Shortt
Savannah, Georgia
[22]www.michaelshortt.com
[23]michael at michaelshortt.com<[24]mailto:michael at michaelshortt.com>
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