[DeTomaso] Stack injection units

[David Nunn]

Kirby,

 

I believe most of the ECU’s on the market have had USB connectivity for some time. I hear you re: serial port adapters. I’ve been there too  : - ( 

 

I’m pretty sure the performance of the short TB’s + injector blocks is about the same as tall TB’s because the critical distance, from throttle plate to intake valve, is about the same. 

 

Even USB ports are old school. New ECU’s will likely connect wirelessly via Bluetooth and you’ll download an App to your iPad for tuning! Autotrend EFI has wireless modems they send to their clients who are having trouble with tuning. That way, Autotrend can play with the calibration remotely, while the customer’s driving the car around. 

 

Dave

 

 

From: Kirby Schrader [mailto:kirby.schrader at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 10:48 AM
To: David Nunn
Cc: Panteras
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stack injection units

 

David,

 

Now THAT is very purty!

 

It'd be really nice to be able to try all the different ECU's and see which one is 'best'...

Trouble is, not only do you have the cost of purchase, but you have to re-wire each time, too.

 

Technology marches on. Electromotive now has, believe it or not, USB connectivity!

Mine are all DB9 serial plugs which require an adapter and not all adapters are equal.

Ask me how I know...

 

Thanks for the picture. That's definitely cool.

Question: How's performance compared to the taller throttle bodies?

Just curious....

 

Kirby

 

 

 

 

 

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 12:15 PM, David Nunn <dnunn at telus.net <mailto:dnunn at telus.net> > wrote:

   Dan,


   I have one of Kelly's intake manifolds on a 9.5" Fontana block with
   C302B heads. I'm also using IPSCO's 54mm low profile throttle bodies;
   however, in an effort to mount the injectors in a better position, we
   filled the injector bosses in the manifold and installed a set of
   IPSCO's injector blocks, with the injectors and fuel rails now mounted
   in the middle of the manifold. With low profile stacks and low profile
   air cleaners, it all fits below the deck lid ... barely.


   I had an Accel DFI, 4bbl EFI system, tuned and set-up by Dennis
   Quella's Accel guru, Dave Ehrlich at Autotrend EFI in Northern
   California. It ran great but I couldn't resist the temptation to go IR.
   In fact, it's my old 4bbl manifold that Kelly's been using to de-bug
   his EFI. Dave recently convinced me to switch to Holley's new Dominator
   ECU as it's loaded with the newest technology and tons of features that
   are perfect for a Pantera EFI system. It has dual O2 sensor inputs and
   drivers for individual coil-on-plug setups, all built-in. In fact,
   Autotrend EFI was so impressed by the Holley ECU's, they are now
   officially a Holley EFI dealer.


   The feature of Electromotive's TEC ECU's that makes them ideal for IR
   systems, is the ability to blend Speed Density and Alpha-N fueling
   strategies. The new Holley Dominator has this feature as well.

   Dave

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   Kirby,


   I believe most of the ECU's on the market have had USB connectivity for
   some time. I hear you re: serial port adapters. I've been there too  :
   - (


   I'm pretty sure the performance of the short TB's + injector blocks is
   about the same as tall TB's because the critical distance, from
   throttle plate to intake valve, is about the same.


   Even USB ports are old school. New ECU's will likely connect wirelessly
   via Bluetooth and you'll download an App to your iPad for tuning!
   Autotrend EFI has wireless modems they send to their clients who are
   having trouble with tuning. That way, Autotrend can play with the
   calibration remotely, while the customer's driving the car around.


   Dave



   From: Kirby Schrader [mailto:kirby.schrader at gmail.com]
   Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 10:48 AM
   To: David Nunn
   Cc: Panteras
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Stack injection units


   David,


   Now THAT is very purty!


   It'd be really nice to be able to try all the different ECU's and see
   which one is 'best'...

   Trouble is, not only do you have the cost of purchase, but you have to
   re-wire each time, too.


   Technology marches on. Electromotive now has, believe it or not, USB
   connectivity!

   Mine are all DB9 serial plugs which require an adapter and not all
   adapters are equal.

   Ask me how I know...


   Thanks for the picture. That's definitely cool.

   Question: How's performance compared to the taller throttle bodies?

   Just curious....


   Kirby






   On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 12:15 PM, David Nunn <[1]dnunn at telus.net> wrote:

        Dan,
        I have one of Kelly's intake manifolds on a 9.5" Fontana block
     with
        C302B heads. I'm also using IPSCO's 54mm low profile throttle
     bodies;
        however, in an effort to mount the injectors in a better
     position, we
        filled the injector bosses in the manifold and installed a set of
        IPSCO's injector blocks, with the injectors and fuel rails now
     mounted
        in the middle of the manifold. With low profile stacks and low
     profile
        air cleaners, it all fits below the deck lid ... barely.
        I had an Accel DFI, 4bbl EFI system, tuned and set-up by Dennis
        Quella's Accel guru, Dave Ehrlich at Autotrend EFI in Northern
        California. It ran great but I couldn't resist the temptation to
     go IR.
        In fact, it's my old 4bbl manifold that Kelly's been using to
     de-bug
        his EFI. Dave recently convinced me to switch to Holley's new
     Dominator
        ECU as it's loaded with the newest technology and tons of
     features that
        are perfect for a Pantera EFI system. It has dual O2 sensor
     inputs and
        drivers for individual coil-on-plug setups, all built-in. In
     fact,
        Autotrend EFI was so impressed by the Holley ECU's, they are now
        officially a Holley EFI dealer.
        The feature of Electromotive's TEC ECU's that makes them ideal
     for IR
        systems, is the ability to blend Speed Density and Alpha-N
     fueling
        strategies. The new Holley Dominator has this feature as well.
        Dave
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