[DeTomaso] Stack injection units
Kirby Schrader
kirby.schrader at gmail.com
Tue Jul 1 08:23:38 EDT 2014
Yep. TWM was bought out by Borla some time ago. Three years? Maybe more.
Gary is still there though and very helpful.
I like the TWM throttle bodies. I have them on my Pantera and my GT40.
The Pantera has older style throttle bodies which were supplied in the
mid-90's by Quella with an old F9 Haltech EFI system.
http://www.spacecitypanteras.com/kirbyschrader/tws/tws2/kirbyefi.jpg
The fuel rails are on the outside, as you can see.
I honestly don't know if Quella still does the EFI systems. Last time I
talked to him he sorta' indicated he no longer does.
You'd have to check.
When the ancient F9 in the Pantera let all the smoke out, I replaced it
with an Electromotive TEC GT.
The GT40 has an Electromotive TEC3r.
http://www.spacecitypanteras.com/kirbyschrader/GT40/files/p5260043.jpg.jpg
The fuel rails are on the inside with this setup and it looks 'cleaner', I
think.
I like both TEC units. They work.
The TEC3r is more expensive, but has more control and inputs/outputs and
can do fully sequential injection on a V8.
The TEC GT can only do what I call 'batch fire' on a V8.
That old saying... you get what you pay for.
Lots of people like the FAST system. I have no experience with it.
Steve Hawkins uses the Accel system and seems to like it.
FWIW,
Kirby
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> The throttle bodies I like the most are made by
> http://www.borlainduction.com. They are obviously throttle bodies, but
> they look like they belong in the 60's/70's.
>
> This used to be twminduction.com. That¹s news to me though. I went to
> their old site, http://www.twminduction.com, and it was redirected to the
> borla induction website.
>
> I have seen some based on real Weber bodies with small injectors hidden
> inside. It's an interesting idea, but I'd probably stick with the TWM
> bodies.
>
> Superior depends on what is important to you. In my opinion, the biggest
> considerations are cost, looks, and the electronics. Some may outperform
> others, but I doubt that it comes without setup headaches.
>
> And finally, unless you plan on designing a lot of it yourself, I'd stick
> with a complete system. I normally recommend Dennis Q., but don't forget
> that Jim Inglese is still in business. He knows Webers like nobody else,
> and now he's doing EFI too.
> --
> Will
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/1/14 12:56 AM, "shawkins777 at comcast.net" <shawkins777 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Are you looking for an EFI setup? If you are I would recommend The
> > ACCEl electronics. I went thru Dennes Quella for the manifold and
> > throttle bodies.
> >
> >
> > Steve
> > __________________________________________________________________
> >
> > From: "Boyd Casey" <boyd411 at gmail.com>
> > To: detomaso at poca.com
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 11:40:27 PM
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Stack injection units
> > Is there a consensus as far as which stack injection unit is :
> > 1.the best?
> > 2. Best deal ?
> > 3. are the units that use actual webers and weber manifolds considered
> > Superior?
> > 4. one to avoid?
> > Any other considerations one should be aware of?
> > Thanks.
> > Boyd
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Yep. TWM was bought out by Borla some time ago. Three years? Maybe
more.
Gary is still there though and very helpful.
I like the TWM throttle bodies. I have them on my Pantera and my GT40.
The Pantera has older style throttle bodies which were supplied in the
mid-90's by Quella with an old F9 Haltech EFI system.
[1]http://www.spacecitypanteras.com/kirbyschrader/tws/tws2/kirbyefi.jpg
The fuel rails are on the outside, as you can see.
I honestly don't know if Quella still does the EFI systems. Last time I
talked to him he sorta' indicated he no longer does.
You'd have to check.
When the ancient F9 in the Pantera let all the smoke out, I replaced it
with an Electromotive TEC GT.
The GT40 has an Electromotive TEC3r.
[2]http://www.spacecitypanteras.com/kirbyschrader/GT40/files/p5260043.j
pg.jpg
The fuel rails are on the inside with this setup and it looks
'cleaner', I think.
I like both TEC units. They work.
The TEC3r is more expensive, but has more control and inputs/outputs
and can do fully sequential injection on a V8.
The TEC GT can only do what I call 'batch fire' on a V8.
That old saying... you get what you pay for.
Lots of people like the FAST system. I have no experience with it.
Steve Hawkins uses the Accel system and seems to like it.
FWIW,
Kirby
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Will Kooiman
<[3]will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
The throttle bodies I like the most are made by
[4]http://www.borlainduction.com. A They are obviously throttle
bodies, but
they look like they belong in the 60's/70's.
This used to be [5]twminduction.com. A ThatA^1s news to me though.
A I went to
their old site, [6]http://www.twminduction.com, and it was
redirected to the
borla induction website.
I have seen some based on real Weber bodies with small injectors
hidden
inside. A It's an interesting idea, but I'd probably stick with the
TWM
bodies.
Superior depends on what is important to you. A In my opinion, the
biggest
considerations are cost, looks, and the electronics. A Some may
outperform
others, but I doubt that it comes without setup headaches.
And finally, unless you plan on designing a lot of it yourself, I'd
stick
with a complete system. A I normally recommend Dennis Q., but don't
forget
that Jim Inglese is still in business. A He knows Webers like nobody
else,
and now he's doing EFI too.
--
Will
On 7/1/14 12:56 AM, "[7]shawkins777 at comcast.net"
<[8]shawkins777 at comcast.net>
wrote:
>
> A Are you looking for an EFI setup? A If you are I would recommend
The
> A ACCEl electronics. A I went thru Dennes Quella for the manifold
and
> A throttle bodies.
>
>
> A Steve
> A A
__________________________________________________________________
>
> A From: "Boyd Casey" <[9]boyd411 at gmail.com>
> A To: [10]detomaso at poca.com
> A Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 11:40:27 PM
> A Subject: [DeTomaso] Stack injection units
> A Is there a consensus as far as which stack injection unit is :
> A 1.the best?
> A 2. Best deal ?
> A 3. are the units that use actual webers and weber manifolds
considered
> A Superior?
> A 4. one to avoid?
> A Any other considerations one should be aware of?
> A Thanks.
> A Boyd
> A _______________________________________________
> A Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
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> A [11]DeTomaso at poca.com
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References
1. http://www.spacecitypanteras.com/kirbyschrader/tws/tws2/kirbyefi.jpg
2. http://www.spacecitypanteras.com/kirbyschrader/GT40/files/p5260043.jpg.jpg
3. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
4. http://www.borlainduction.com/
5. http://twminduction.com/
6. http://www.twminduction.com/
7. mailto:shawkins777 at comcast.net
8. mailto:shawkins777 at comcast.net
9. mailto:boyd411 at gmail.com
10. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
11. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
12. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
13. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
14. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
15. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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