[DeTomaso] Skyrocketing Prices

Mon Jan 6 16:54:00 EST 2014

Or...

There are younger buyers who never saw them at the dealerships and never heard the incorrect rumours about them.

These buyers see them now only as what they are. 

Incredible Italian exotics that should be worth as much as other Italian marques.

Most of my friends who have recently bought them weren't even alive when they first came out. They also don't associate them with any dealership experience or with the terrible North American press opinion of them back then.

LS

central 
wines-spirits   est 1934

625 e street nw

washington, dc 20004

centralwines.com

facebook.com/CentralLiquors 

202-737-2800

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 From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
To: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>; "algisby at hotmail.com" <algisby at hotmail.com> 
Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com> 
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2014 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Skyrocketing Prices

I have heard that demographics explain a lot.  The kids who looked at Panteras in Lincoln dealerships 40 years ago are now grown, successful, and their kids have moved out (hopefully).  So now there is time to do some things they wanted to do 40 years ago, like buy a Pantera.

Ken

From: "cengles at cox.net" <cengles at cox.net>
To: algisby at hotmail.com 
Cc: detomaso at poca.com 
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2014 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Skyrocketing Prices

 Dear Al,

                 I would suggest the general sense of animosity and disbelief may be related to:

1) decades of being the redheaded stepchild of the Italian sports cars

2) our longstanding preference of modified Panteras fulfilling the moniker of the "only Italian hot rod"

3) our preference that the modified and improved Panteras have more value than the stock original Panteras

4) a bit of sour grapes that the rising market value of Panteras is led by the stock original Panteras

                  Both of my Panteras were bone stock original when I purchased them.   Currently, they both look stock, but the only things remaining stock are the body and the interior (mostly).  The modified Panteras are so much more fun and rewarding to actually drive that I wouldn't go back.  

                             Philosophically yours,  Chuck Engles

On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Al Gisby wrote:

> ...can i venture to ask...why is there a general sense of animosity [not against the emails in this link, but I have seen it regularly] against the value of our cars increasing? Surely we should all be excited about being the owners of such desirable and clearly valuable machines. Without sounding too trite, it will put a halt to any excessive disfigurations and loose disregard of purity that has unfortunately kept the 'pantera on the chain' until now.Alp.s A happy new year to the community 
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> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 09:44:43 -0800
> From: lashdeep at yahoo.com
> To: tmshinro at aol.com; detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Skyrocketing Prices
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> Surely the auction house estimates are higher than actual sales but still.
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> Their estimates are almost double what prices were this past spring/summer.
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> 625 e street nw
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> centralwines.com
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> 202-737-2800
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>         From: Tom Shinrock <tmshinro at aol.com>
>  To: detomaso at poca.com 
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> There's been quite a discussion on the appreciating values of Panteras last year.  Taking it a step further, I'm sure listers are seeing high prices of NOS parts being sold by bk*@aol.com on eBay.  
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> Maybe I'm the one with my head in the sand but $25 for dome light bulbs, $350 for stock door mirrors (which most people replace for better looking mirrors anyway), $1000 for two never been mounted Arriva tires, $100 for mounting brackets for stock fan motors (anybody using these other than me?) seems way high.  I'm guessing these parts would have appeal to those wanting a totally stock car (which the market seems to favor).  Maybe its the Ford boxes that the parts come in that makes them worth the money.
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> Seeing these auctions made me think the the value of Mike Drew's spare bedroom (otherwise known as his Detomaso warehouse) has gone through the roof.  Better increase your insurance rider Mike.
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