[DeTomaso] Si hub carrier - retrofit?

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Mon Feb 24 14:05:51 EST 2014


The name Olaf Roks rings a bell, didn't he come over to teh US and view some Pantera's for himself?
 
Simon sent me a photo yesterday of his Lamborghinin Dianblo SV loaded on a trailer and headed off for sale!
 
Julian
 
> CC: julian_kift at hotmail.com; mbefthomas at comcast.net; detomaso at poca.com
> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Si hub carrier - retrofit?
> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:51:47 -0800
> To: charlesmccall at gmail.com
> 
> Charlie,
> 
> Simon has a whole pile of Panteras. :)
> 
> He has two of the 12 GT5-S Pavesi Targas. You saw the white one at Spa. His red one was modified by a prior owner with Si-look front and rear bodywork, so he is continuing the conversion by fitting Si suspension, brakes and wheels. 
> 
> I was wrong--the parts didn't come off the wrecked car, they were just De Tomaso spares. 
> 
> Simon also has a black Si that was also at Spa. 
> 
> He used to own the gold Si targa that we saw at Le Mans. He sold that to his friend Alexander Oet. Alexander actually owned it when we saw it. Simon was driving his Iso Grifo, the orange one that was parked in the De Tomaso enclosure. 
> 
> Simon bought a yellow Pantera L in Arizona while attending the fun rally, but he has already sold that to a guy named Olaf Roks. Simon also recently completed the ground up restoration of a yellow Mangusta. He just bought an ERA GT40 last week and is looking for a Longchamp. 
> 
> Yeah, his life sucks! :)
> 
> Mike
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 10:23, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Simon has a white (86?) GT5-S Pavesi, and a gold SI Pavesi, right? The Gold
> > Si is a conversion and isn't one of the 4 Pavesi Sis? Or has the white car
> > been converted "under the skin"? 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift
> > Sent: lunes, 24 de febrero de 2014 18:52
> > To: Mike Thomas; MikeLDrew at aol.com; De Tomaso List
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Si hub carrier - retrofit?
> > 
> > I think that answer is yes, as long as you have an earlier wide body car.
> > Simon Vels has a GT5S Pavesi Targa converted to Si specs, he said the a-arms
> > fit, but shocks and sway bar need to be the earlier GT5S (same as std
> > Panetra) varaints, not Si.
> > 
> > The a-arms wouldn't be hard to fabricate (and potentially cheaper) if you
> > could get ahold of the hubs. the question is were they unique to the Si or
> > borrowed from some other vehicle?
> > 
> > Julian
> > 
> >> From: mbefthomas at comcast.net
> >> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com; detomaso at poca.com
> >> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:35:08 -0800
> >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Si hub carrier - retrofit?
> >> 
> >> So, if you were to go to a wheel with the appropriate offset, could these
> > A
> >> arms/rear hub carrier be used on an earlier car?  Not cheap, granted, but
> > I
> >> would suspect a significant improvement in handling with the longer
> > radius.
> >> 
> >> Mike Thomas
> >> VP, POCA
> >> VP, Panteras Northwest
> >> Yellow '74 #6328
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Mike Drew
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 8:59 PM
> >> To: detomaso at poca.com
> >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Si hub carrier
> >> 
> >> Here is the hub carrier with the driveshaft and wheel. You can see how the
> >> wheel comprehensively wraps around the hub carrier. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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   The name Olaf Roks rings a bell, didn't he come over to teh US and view
   some Pantera's for himself?

   Simon sent me a photo yesterday of his Lamborghinin Dianblo SV loaded
   on a trailer and headed off for sale!

   Julian

   > CC: julian_kift at hotmail.com; mbefthomas at comcast.net;
   detomaso at poca.com
   > From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Si hub carrier - retrofit?
   > Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:51:47 -0800
   > To: charlesmccall at gmail.com
   >
   > Charlie,
   >
   > Simon has a whole pile of Panteras. :)
   >
   > He has two of the 12 GT5-S Pavesi Targas. You saw the white one at
   Spa. His red one was modified by a prior owner with Si-look front and
   rear bodywork, so he is continuing the conversion by fitting Si
   suspension, brakes and wheels.
   >
   > I was wrong--the parts didn't come off the wrecked car, they were
   just De Tomaso spares.
   >
   > Simon also has a black Si that was also at Spa.
   >
   > He used to own the gold Si targa that we saw at Le Mans. He sold that
   to his friend Alexander Oet. Alexander actually owned it when we saw
   it. Simon was driving his Iso Grifo, the orange one that was parked in
   the De Tomaso enclosure.
   >
   > Simon bought a yellow Pantera L in Arizona while attending the fun
   rally, but he has already sold that to a guy named Olaf Roks. Simon
   also recently completed the ground up restoration of a yellow Mangusta.
   He just bought an ERA GT40 last week and is looking for a Longchamp.
   >
   > Yeah, his life sucks! :)
   >
   > Mike
   >
   > Sent from my iPhone
   >
   > On Feb 24, 2014, at 10:23, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > > Simon has a white (86?) GT5-S Pavesi, and a gold SI Pavesi, right?
   The Gold
   > > Si is a conversion and isn't one of the 4 Pavesi Sis? Or has the
   white car
   > > been converted "under the skin"?
   > >
   > > -----Original Message-----
   > > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
   Julian Kift
   > > Sent: lunes, 24 de febrero de 2014 18:52
   > > To: Mike Thomas; MikeLDrew at aol.com; De Tomaso List
   > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Si hub carrier - retrofit?
   > >
   > > I think that answer is yes, as long as you have an earlier wide
   body car.
   > > Simon Vels has a GT5S Pavesi Targa converted to Si specs, he said
   the a-arms
   > > fit, but shocks and sway bar need to be the earlier GT5S (same as
   std
   > > Panetra) varaints, not Si.
   > >
   > > The a-arms wouldn't be hard to fabricate (and potentially cheaper)
   if you
   > > could get ahold of the hubs. the question is were they unique to
   the Si or
   > > borrowed from some other vehicle?
   > >
   > > Julian
   > >
   > >> From: mbefthomas at comcast.net
   > >> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com; detomaso at poca.com
   > >> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:35:08 -0800
   > >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Si hub carrier - retrofit?
   > >>
   > >> So, if you were to go to a wheel with the appropriate offset,
   could these
   > > A
   > >> arms/rear hub carrier be used on an earlier car? Not cheap,
   granted, but
   > > I
   > >> would suspect a significant improvement in handling with the
   longer
   > > radius.
   > >>
   > >> Mike Thomas
   > >> VP, POCA
   > >> VP, Panteras Northwest
   > >> Yellow '74 #6328
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> -----Original Message-----
   > >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
   Mike Drew
   > >> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 8:59 PM
   > >> To: detomaso at poca.com
   > >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Si hub carrier
   > >>
   > >> Here is the hub carrier with the driveshaft and wheel. You can see
   how the
   > >> wheel comprehensively wraps around the hub carrier.
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> _______________________________________________
   > >>
   > >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA
   > >>
   > >> DeTomaso mailing list
   > >> DeTomaso at poca.com
   > >> http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
   > >
   > >


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