[DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 116, Issue 21
Paul A Rimov
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Fri Feb 21 16:47:25 EST 2014
I would look into a clear bra. Get it look into ha ha ha ha. But really a clear bra is really the way to go for protecting the front from rock chips . Paul
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> 1. Re: Pantera Front End Bra (MikeLDrew at aol.com)
> 2. Re: Pantera Front End Bra (Charles McCall)
> 3. Re: Pantera Front End Bra (michael at michaelshortt.com)
> 4. Re: Window Trim (jderyke at aol.com)
> 5. F1 Pool (Patrick Orlando)
> 6. Re: F1 Pool (michael at michaelshortt.com)
> 7. Re: Window Trim (Will Kooiman)
> 8. Re: Front Fender construction (Michael Cox)
> 9. NPC: Cadillac Stunt Driving Show in - - - CHINA?!?!? (Mike Thomas)
> 10. Re: Tumblers (Sam)
> 11. Re: Tumblers (Corey Price)
> 12. Re: Front Fender construction (Will Kooiman)
> 13. F1 Pool (Peter Cajthaml)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:33:28 -0500 (EST)
> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> To: pantera_4220 at yahoo.com, detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Front End Bra
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> In a message dated 2/19/14 8 12 23, pantera_4220 at yahoo.com writes:
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>> Anyone have a Pantera Front End Bra that they are not using for a
>> reasonable price?
>
>>>> I would only install one on a car whose front end had been wrecked, to
> attempt to conceal the damage. If the paint isn't already ruined, a bra
> will ruin it for you, as dirt gets trapped between the bra and paint and acts
> like sandpaper.
>
> There's a reason why these things were popular for a short time in the
> 1980s and haven't been seen since....
>
> Mike
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> In a message dated 2/19/14 8 12 23, pantera_4220 at yahoo.com writes:
>
> Anyone have a Pantera Front End Bra that they are not using for a
> reasonable price?
>
>>>> I would only install one on a car whose front end had been wrecked,
> to attempt to conceal the damage. If the paint isn't already ruined, a
> bra will ruin it for you, as dirt gets trapped between the bra and
> paint and acts like sandpaper.
> There's a reason why these things were popular for a short time in the
> 1980s and haven't been seen since....
> Mike
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:40:41 +0100
> From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> To: <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, <pantera_4220 at yahoo.com>, <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Front End Bra
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>>>> I would only install one on a car whose front end had been wrecked, to
> attempt to conceal the damage. If the paint isn't already ruined, a bra
> will ruin it for you, as dirt gets trapped between the bra and paint and
> acts
> like sandpaper.
>
> There's a reason why these things were popular for a short time in the
> 1980s and haven't been seen since....
>
> ***I had one in the late 80's on my first "fun" car (Chrysler Conquest TSi)
> and it basically acted like sandpaper, trapped moisture underneath, and
> clouded the paint. I wouldn't use one again.
>
> That being said, when I stopped using it, the front of my car did suffer
> considerably from rock chips (I was living in Chicago, driving the 80/94
> every morning with very very heavy traffic)
>
> Pick your poison! But if not driving in heavy traffic on a daily basis, I
> wouldn't use one on my car..
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 14:53:14 -0500
> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
> Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, "detomaso at poca.com"
> <detomaso at poca.com>, Jim Wallace <pantera_4220 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Front End Bra
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> I don't think there were ever designed to be installed 24/7 or on dirty
> cars.
> I've used several ( mostly in the 80's, guilty ), but only installed them
> when
> going on a long trip (interstate) and only on a clean car.
>
> But if you are dumb enough to leave one on, it's going to do exactly what
> they say. Having said that, 85 mph rocks from a semi will do more, so,
> it's
> was worth the risk on trips for me
>
>
> Michael Shortt
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>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>>>> I would only install one on a car whose front end had been wrecked, to
>> attempt to conceal the damage. If the paint isn't already ruined, a bra
>> will ruin it for you, as dirt gets trapped between the bra and paint and
>> acts
>> like sandpaper.
>>
>> There's a reason why these things were popular for a short time in the
>> 1980s and haven't been seen since....
>>
>> ***I had one in the late 80's on my first "fun" car (Chrysler Conquest TSi)
>> and it basically acted like sandpaper, trapped moisture underneath, and
>> clouded the paint. I wouldn't use one again.
>>
>> That being said, when I stopped using it, the front of my car did suffer
>> considerably from rock chips (I was living in Chicago, driving the 80/94
>> every morning with very very heavy traffic)
>>
>> Pick your poison! But if not driving in heavy traffic on a daily basis, I
>> wouldn't use one on my car..
>>
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> I don't think there were ever designed to be installed 24/7 or on dirty
> cars.
> I've used several ( mostly in the 80's, guilty ), but only installed
> them when
> going on a long trip (interstate) and only on a clean car.
> But if you are dumb enough to leave one on, it's going to do exactly
> what
> they say. Having said that, 85 mph rocks from a semi will do more, so,
> it's
> was worth the risk on trips for me
> Michael Shortt
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Charles McCall
> <[1]charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> I would only install one on a car whose front end had been wrecked,
> to
> attempt to conceal the damage. If the paint isn't already ruined, a
> bra
> will ruin it for you, as dirt gets trapped between the bra and paint
> and
> acts
> like sandpaper.
> There's a reason why these things were popular for a short time in the
> 1980s and haven't been seen since....
>
> ***I had one in the late 80's on my first "fun" car (Chrysler
> Conquest TSi)
> and it basically acted like sandpaper, trapped moisture underneath,
> and
> clouded the paint. I wouldn't use one again.
> That being said, when I stopped using it, the front of my car did
> suffer
> considerably from rock chips (I was living in Chicago, driving the
> 80/94
> every morning with very very heavy traffic)
> Pick your poison! But if not driving in heavy traffic on a daily
> basis, I
> wouldn't use one on my car..
>
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> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:02:40 -0500 (EST)
> From: jderyke at aol.com
> To: will.kooiman at gmail.com, detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Window Trim
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> Will, I must confess- that's one of a very few pieces of a Pantera I've never taken off. When I painted our car 20 years ago, I did what most amateurs do- I masked that trim. I'll look into an illustrated article on removing window trim from a '72-1/2 L model (or if you took photos when you did it, we could use them). Thanks for the suggestion. Cheers-JDeryke
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: James coyne <tecnosound at hotmail.com>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 20, 2014 4:03 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Window Trim
>
>
> I think this needs an article in the POCA magazine with pics.
>
> Mine came off easily without sliding - just minor prying using very small
> screw drivers.
>
> The glass and whiskers were already out. I don't remember where the
> screws were, but I removed those first.
>
> They went back on without any drama.
>
>> On 2/20/14 12:10 AM, "James coyne" <tecnosound at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Before you can remove that trim piece, along the bottom of the door,
>> you must first remove both pieces of door glass. Then, buried in the
>> cat wiskers, you will find the tiny slotted screws that hold both the
>> cat wiskers and the trim piece. Once all the screws are removed, the
>> piece can be slid upwards and removed. Caution, there is no "prying"
>> involved.
>>
>>> From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 23:22:01 -0500
>>> To: tonydigi at optonline.net
>>> CC: detomaso at poca.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Window Trim
>>>
>>> You very carefully pry them off with 2 small screw drivers.
>>>
>>> Don't pry too hard. They bend easily.
>>>
>>> There are a few very small screws. You can't miss them.
>>>
>>> With 2 screw drivers, you walk them off - one ahead of the other.
>>>
>>>> On Feb 18, 2014, at 6:49 PM, Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How does one, correctly, remove the chrome trim piece on the door,
>> along the
>>>> bottom of the window?
>>>>
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> Will, I must confess- that's one of a very few pieces of a Pantera I've
> never taken off. When I painted our car 20 years ago, I did what most
> amateurs do- I masked that trim. I'll look into an illustrated article
> on removing window trim from a '72-1/2 L model (or if you took photos
> when you did it, we could use them). Thanks for the suggestion.
> Cheers-JDeryke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: James coyne <tecnosound at hotmail.com>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 20, 2014 4:03 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Window Trim
> I think this needs an article in the POCA magazine with pics.
>
> Mine came off easily without sliding - just minor prying using very small
> screw drivers.
>
> The glass and whiskers were already out. I don't remember where the
> screws were, but I removed those first.
>
> They went back on without any drama.
>
>> On 2/20/14 12:10 AM, "James coyne" <[1]tecnosound at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Before you can remove that trim piece, along the bottom of the door,
>> you must first remove both pieces of door glass. Then, buried in the
>> cat wiskers, you will find the tiny slotted screws that hold both the
>> cat wiskers and the trim piece. Once all the screws are removed, the
>> piece can be slid upwards and removed. Caution, there is no "prying"
>> involved.
>>
>>> From: [2]will.kooiman at gmail.com
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 23:22:01 -0500
>>> To: [3]tonydigi at optonline.net
>>> CC: [4]detomaso at poca.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Window Trim
>>>
>>> You very carefully pry them off with 2 small screw drivers.
>>>
>>> Don't pry too hard. They bend easily.
>>>
>>> There are a few very small screws. You can't miss them.
>>>
>>> With 2 screw drivers, you walk them off - one ahead of the other.
>>>
>>>> On Feb 18, 2014, at 6:49 PM, Tony DiGiovanna <[5]tonydigi at optonline.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How does one, correctly, remove the chrome trim piece on the door,
>> along the
>>>> bottom of the window?
>>>>
>>>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:10:23 -0500
> From: Patrick Orlando <patrickf.orlando at gmail.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] F1 Pool
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> Lets start a pool of how many F1 cars finish the first race. Patrick
> Orlando 1972 Yellow Pantera S/N 4011
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> Lets start a pool of how many F1 cars finish the first race. Patrick
> Orlando 1972 Yellow Pantera S/N 4011
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:14:09 -0500
> From: "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> To: Patrick Orlando <patrickf.orlando at gmail.com>
> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] F1 Pool
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> 14
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> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Patrick Orlando <
> patrickf.orlando at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Lets start a pool of how many F1 cars finish the first race. Patrick
>> Orlando 1972 Yellow Pantera S/N 4011
>>
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> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Patrick Orlando
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> Lets start a pool of how many F1 cars finish the first race.
> Patrick
> Orlando 1972 Yellow Pantera S/N 4011
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:51:25 -0500
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: <jderyke at aol.com>, <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Window Trim
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> Cool.
>
> Jack ? you do a great job researching and writing up your articles. I will
> look forward to it.
>
> I didn't remove the trim at first. I was afraid I would damage it, so I had
> it done by a shop. But they only did one section or one door. I don't
> recall. Once I saw how they did it, I removed the rest, plus I reinstalled
> it after painting. Sorry, but I didn't take any pics.
>
> From: <jderyke at aol.com>
> Date: Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:02 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>, <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Window Trim
>
> Will, I must confess- that's one of a very few pieces of a Pantera I've
> never taken off. When I painted our car 20 years ago, I did what most
> amateurs do- I masked that trim. I'll look into an illustrated article on
> removing window trim from a '72-1/2 L model (or if you took photos when you
> did it, we could use them). Thanks for the suggestion. Cheers-JDeryke
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: James coyne <tecnosound at hotmail.com>; detomaso <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 20, 2014 4:03 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Window Trim
>
> I think this needs an article in the POCA magazine with pics.
>
> Mine came off easily without sliding - just minor prying using very small
> screw drivers.
>
> The glass and whiskers were already out. I don't remember where the
> screws were, but I removed those first.
>
> They went back on without any drama.
>
>> On 2/20/14 12:10 AM, "James coyne" <tecnosound at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Before you can remove that trim piece, along the bottom of the door,
>> you must first remove both pieces of door glass. Then, buried in the
>> cat wiskers, you will find the tiny slotted screws that hold both the
>> cat wiskers and the trim piece. Once all the screws are removed, the
>> piece can be slid upwards and removed. Caution, there is no "prying"
>> involved.
>>
>>> From: will.kooiman at gmail.com
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 23:22:01 -0500
>>> To: tonydigi at optonline.net
>>> CC: detomaso at poca.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Window Trim
>>>
>>> You very carefully pry them off with 2 small screw drivers.
>>>
>>> Don't pry too hard. They bend easily.
>>>
>>> There are a few very small screws. You can't miss them.
>>>
>>> With 2 screw drivers, you walk them off - one ahead of the other.
>>>
>>>> On Feb 18, 2014, at 6:49 PM, Tony DiGiovanna <tonydigi at optonline.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How does one, correctly, remove the chrome trim piece on the door,
>> along the
>>>> bottom of the window?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>
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> Cool.
>
> Jack - you do a great job researching and writing up your articles. I
> will look forward to it.
>
> I didn't remove the trim at first. I was afraid I would damage it, so
> I had it done by a shop. But they only did one section or one door. I
> don't recall. Once I saw how they did it, I removed the rest, plus I
> reinstalled it after painting. Sorry, but I didn't take any pics.
>
> From: <[1]jderyke at aol.com>
> Date: Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:02 PM
> To: Will Kooiman <[2]will.kooiman at gmail.com>, <[3]detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Window Trim
>
> Will, I must confess- that's one of a very few pieces of a Pantera I've
> never taken off. When I painted our car 20 years ago, I did what most
> amateurs do- I masked that trim. I'll look into an illustrated article
> on removing window trim from a '72-1/2 L model (or if you took photos
> when you did it, we could use them). Thanks for the suggestion.
> Cheers-JDeryke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Kooiman <[4]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: James coyne <[5]tecnosound at hotmail.com>; detomaso
> <[6]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Thu, Feb 20, 2014 4:03 am
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Window Trim
> I think this needs an article in the POCA magazine with pics.
>
> Mine came off easily without sliding - just minor prying using very small
> screw drivers.
>
> The glass and whiskers were already out. I don't remember where the
> screws were, but I removed those first.
>
> They went back on without any drama.
>
>> On 2/20/14 12:10 AM, "James coyne" <[7]tecnosound at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Before you can remove that trim piece, along the bottom of the door,
>> you must first remove both pieces of door glass. Then, buried in the
>> cat wiskers, you will find the tiny slotted screws that hold both the
>> cat wiskers and the trim piece. Once all the screws are removed, the
>> piece can be slid upwards and removed. Caution, there is no "prying"
>> involved.
>>
>>> From: [8]will.kooiman at gmail.com
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 23:22:01 -0500
>>> To: [9]tonydigi at optonline.net
>>> CC: [10]detomaso at poca.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Window Trim
>>>
>>> You very carefully pry them off with 2 small screw drivers.
>>>
>>> Don't pry too hard. They bend easily.
>>>
>>> There are a few very small screws. You can't miss them.
>>>
>>> With 2 screw drivers, you walk them off - one ahead of the other.
>>>
>>>> On Feb 18, 2014, at 6:49 PM, Tony DiGiovanna <[11]tonydigi at optonline.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How does one, correctly, remove the chrome trim piece on the door,
>> along the
>>>> bottom of the window?
>>>>
>>>>
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> References
>
> 1. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
> 2. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 3. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 4. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 5. mailto:tecnosound at hotmail.com
> 6. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 7. mailto:tecnosound at hotmail.com
> 8. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
> 9. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> 10. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
> 11. mailto:tonydigi at optonline.net
> 12. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 13. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 15. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 16. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 17. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 18. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
> 19. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:45:38 -0800
> From: Michael Cox <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>
> To: detomaso at poca.com, doug351c at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Front Fender construction
> Message-ID:
> <CAMPkPf3qJnCx7=rkmBTKbR2J0cgboOXbTPg-+QoqbNQRaKUQkw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> My mid year '71 has that same seam, I had my car stripped and painted years
> ago.
>
> --michael cox
>
>> * We stripped the other fender yesterday and found the same weld so I tend to agree with your opinion; what's your opinion based on?
> *> >* Doug Braun
> *>* blue 73L #5505
> *>* -----Original Message-----
> *>* From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> <http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com>]On Behalf Of R.J.
> *>* Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 1:14 PM
> *>* To: detomaso at poca.com
> <http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com>
> *>* Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Front Fender construction
> *> >* Yes, they all where made that way, maybe except early prototypes.
> *> >* Am 24.01.2014 22:08, schrieb doug351c:
> *>>* Hi Guys,
> *>> >>* I'm in the middle of a restoration on my Pantera and ran
> across what appears
> *>>* to be a machine-tig-welded seam that runs the length of the front fender
> *>>* about an inch down from the top-outer crease. My question is - were all
> *>>* factory Pantera front fenders made in two pieces this way?
> *>> >>* Doug Braun
> *>>* blue 73L #5505*
> -------------- next part --------------
> My mid year '71 has that same seam, I had my car stripped and painted
> years ago.
> --michael cox
>> We stripped the other fender yesterday and found the same weld so I tend to ag
> ree with your opinion; what's your opinion based on?
>>
>> Doug Braun
>> blue 73L #5505
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of R.J.
>> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 1:14 PM
>> To: [2]detomaso at poca.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Front Fender construction
>>
>> Yes, they all where made that way, maybe except early prototypes.
>>
>> Am 24.01.2014 22:08, schrieb doug351c:
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> I'm in the middle of a restoration on my Pantera and ran across what appears
>>> to be a machine-tig-welded seam that runs the length of the front fender
>>> about an inch down from the top-outer crease. My question is - were all
>>> factory Pantera front fenders made in two pieces this way?
>>>
>>> Doug Braun
>>> blue 73L #5505
>
> References
>
> 1. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 2. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:53:41 -0800
> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> To: "'De Tomaso List'" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC: Cadillac Stunt Driving Show in - - -
> CHINA?!?!?
> Message-ID: <010001cf2ec9$468577d0$d3906770$@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Probably GM?s fastest growing luxury market. Some pretty good stunt driving.
>
>
>
> Mike T
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=SbuDRA4zNbw <http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=SbuDRA4zNbw>
>
>
>
> -------------- next part --------------
> Probably GM's fastest growing luxury market. Some pretty good stunt
> driving.
>
>
> Mike T
>
>
>
> [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=SbuDRA4zNbw
>
> References
>
> Visible links
> 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=SbuDRA4zNbw
>
> Hidden links:
> 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=SbuDRA4zNbw
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:44:15 -0500
> From: "Sam" <shbailey at att.net>
> To: <lance730 at msn.com>, "Detomaso Forum" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tumblers
> Message-ID: <313A8F6C3AB749B2A6480100D94A10BF at DadarooHP>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I think this is better, easier, and cheaper:
>
> http://www.metalrescue.com/consumer.aspx
> -------------- next part --------------
> I think this is better, easier, and cheaper:
>
> [1]http://www.metalrescue.com/consumer.aspx
>
> References
>
> 1. http://www.metalrescue.com/consumer.aspx
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 07:51:58 -0700
> From: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
> To: Sam <shbailey at att.net>
> Cc: De Tomaso List <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tumblers
> Message-ID: <698329CC-1BAE-4D14-A42D-140CF38D1867 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Is that the same as Evap-o-rust? I use Evap-o-rust all the time.
>
> Corey
>
>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 7:44 AM, "Sam" <shbailey at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> I think this is better, easier, and cheaper:
>>
>> [1]http://www.metalrescue.com/consumer.aspx
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. http://www.metalrescue.com/consumer.aspx
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>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:47:15 -0500
> From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: Michael Cox <coxmichaelt at gmail.com>, <detomaso at poca.com>,
> <doug351c at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Front Fender construction
> Message-ID: <CF2CECE7.6E2E2%will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Why would DeTomaso do that?
>
> Wouldn't it be cheaper to die stamp the entire fender?
>
> I guess, since everything is welded together anyway, it's not that much of
> a stretch to do a 2-part stamping for the fenders.
>
> --
> Will
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 2/21/14 12:45 AM, "Michael Cox" <coxmichaelt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> My mid year '71 has that same seam, I had my car stripped and painted
>> years ago.
>> --michael cox
>>> We stripped the other fender yesterday and found the same weld so I
>>> tend to ag
>> ree with your opinion; what's your opinion based on?
>>>
>>> Doug Braun
>>> blue 73L #5505
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at poca.com]On Behalf Of R.J.
>>> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 1:14 PM
>>> To: [2]detomaso at poca.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Front Fender construction
>>>
>>> Yes, they all where made that way, maybe except early prototypes.
>>>
>>> Am 24.01.2014 22:08, schrieb doug351c:
>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>
>>>> I'm in the middle of a restoration on my Pantera and ran across what
>>>> appears
>>>> to be a machine-tig-welded seam that runs the length of the front
>>>> fender
>>>> about an inch down from the top-outer crease. My question is - were
>>>> all
>>>> factory Pantera front fenders made in two pieces this way?
>>>>
>>>> Doug Braun
>>>> blue 73L #5505
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>> 2. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:03:38 -0800
> From: Peter Cajthaml <pcajthaml at gmail.com>
> To: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] F1 Pool
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> that depends on how many are starting - do we have 20 or 22 this year?
>
> i'll be optimistic and predict that 17 will finish the first race in
> melbourne.
>
> ----
>
> 14
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Patrick Orlando <patrickf.orlando at
> gmail.com <http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com>> wrote:
>
>> * Lets start a pool of how many F1 cars finish the first race. Patrick
> *>* Orlando 1972 Yellow Pantera S/N 4011
> *>>>* _______________________________________________
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> *>>
> -------------- next part --------------
> that depends on how many are starting - do we have 20 or 22 this year?
> i'll be optimistic and predict that 17 will finish the first race in
> melbourne.
> ----
> 14
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Patrick Orlando <
> [1]patrickf.orlando at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lets start a pool of how many F1 cars finish the first race. Patrick
>> Orlando 1972 Yellow Pantera S/N 4011
>>
>>
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