[DeTomaso] Strange electrical issue - is it time for a new starter?
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Tue Feb 18 16:07:22 EST 2014
Are you keeping a Battery Tender on the car between drives?
Best way to preserve the life of an Optima.
Michael Shortt
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Peter Cajthaml <pcajthaml at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jim,
> I have a brand new Sears Die Hard Platinum (Odyssey) - less than 6
> months old. I like using the cutoff switch when I am not driving the
> car to minimize the leakage current from draining the battery, but I
> will remove the switch to see if it solves this issue. I may replace
> it with the more robust one Mike described above. I typically only
> drive the car on the weekend, and if I am away, the car may sit for 2
> or 3 weeks w/o being driven.
> As always thanks for the advice,
> Peter
> #2761
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Pantdino <[1]pantdino at aol.com> wrote:
>
> How old is your battery?
>
>
>
> If the disconnect switch is OK and the problem persists, replace your
> battery. Or if you have the green knob kind Mike describes replace it
> too.
>
>
>
> I spent hours evaluating things last time I had this "no start"
> situation and replacing the battery made it all go away.
>
>
>
> Jim Oddie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MikeLDrew <[2]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> To: pcajthaml <[3]pcajthaml at gmail.com>; detomaso <[4]detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Mon, Feb 17, 2014 1:15 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Strange electrical issue - is it time for a new
> starter?
> In a message dated 2/17/14 12 08 33, [5]pcajthaml at gmail.com writes:
>
> So far, after turning off the battery disconnect switch and then
> back on, the starter kicks over as when new. Should I replace the
> starter before I get stuck somewhere?
>
> >>>No. Your starter is working fine. The most obvious suggestion is
> to check all your connections--at the battery, starter solenoid, and
> the starter itself.
> Assuming they are all good, the problem is almost assuredly within your
> disconnect switch. You don't mention which kind you have? Broadly,
> there are two types. One has a post that the battery cable clamps to,
> a clamp to attach it to the battery, and a knob (usually green) that
> you unscrew to electrically separate the two halves. These things are
> pretty effective, but also extremely cheap. I would imagine (guess)
> that overtightening can break things.
> The other kind is a proper switch, with two posts (one for the cable
> in, another for a cable out) and a keyed switch in between. These seem
> to be more robust.
> As an experiment, remove the switch from your system and evaluate
> performance. It's likely that things will function just perfectly. At
> that point you get to decide whether you want to service the switch
> (could there be a buildup of corrosion), replace it, or just do away
> with it entirely.
> FWIW I have key-type switches on two cars, and a knob-type switch on a
> third one--all of them have worked great for years, although the
> knob-style switch is rarely disconnected so it hasn't had a chance to
> wear out yet.
> Let us know what you find out!
> Mike
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Are you keeping a Battery Tender on the car between drives?
Best way to preserve the life of an Optima.
Michael Shortt
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Peter Cajthaml
<[1]pcajthaml at gmail.com> wrote:
Jim,
I have a brand new Sears Die Hard Platinum (Odyssey) - less than
6
months old. I like using the cutoff switch when I am not driving
the
car to minimize the leakage current from draining the battery,
but I
will remove the switch to see if it solves this issue. I may
replace
it with the more robust one Mike described above. I typically
only
drive the car on the weekend, and if I am away, the car may sit
for 2
or 3 weeks w/o being driven.
As always thanks for the advice,
Peter
#2761
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Pantdino <[1][2]pantdino at aol.com>
wrote:
How old is your battery?
If the disconnect switch is OK and the problem persists, replace
your
battery. Or if you have the green knob kind Mike describes replace
it
too.
I spent hours evaluating things last time I had this "no start"
situation and replacing the battery made it all go away.
Jim Oddie
-----Original Message-----
From: MikeLDrew <[2][3]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
To: pcajthaml <[3][4]pcajthaml at gmail.com>; detomaso
<[4][5]detomaso at poca.com>
Sent: Mon, Feb 17, 2014 1:15 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Strange electrical issue - is it time for a
new
starter?
In a message dated 2/17/14 12 08 33, [5][6]pcajthaml at gmail.com
writes:
So far, after turning off the battery disconnect switch and then
back on, the starter kicks over as when new. Should I replace the
starter before I get stuck somewhere?
>>>No. Your starter is working fine. The most obvious suggestion
is
to check all your connections--at the battery, starter solenoid, and
the starter itself.
Assuming they are all good, the problem is almost assuredly within
your
disconnect switch. You don't mention which kind you have? Broadly,
there are two types. One has a post that the battery cable clamps
to,
a clamp to attach it to the battery, and a knob (usually green) that
you unscrew to electrically separate the two halves. These things
are
pretty effective, but also extremely cheap. I would imagine (guess)
that overtightening can break things.
The other kind is a proper switch, with two posts (one for the cable
in, another for a cable out) and a keyed switch in between. These
seem
to be more robust.
As an experiment, remove the switch from your system and evaluate
performance. It's likely that things will function just perfectly.
At
that point you get to decide whether you want to service the switch
(could there be a buildup of corrosion), replace it, or just do away
with it entirely.
FWIW I have key-type switches on two cars, and a knob-type switch on
a
third one--all of them have worked great for years, although the
knob-style switch is rarely disconnected so it hasn't had a chance
to
wear out yet.
Let us know what you find out!
Mike
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5. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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10. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
11. mailto:pcajthaml at gmail.com
12. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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