[DeTomaso] Tire advice

Sat Feb 15 16:42:49 EST 2014

If you're willing to run 315 rears, then the best tire money can buy in 17"
size is Nitto NT01 in 235/40R17 (fronts) and 315/35R17 (rears). Stickiest
road legal R-compound on the market and as fast as MPSC and R6s but with an
honest 10K mile life.

I run the NT01s on 3 of my cars.

On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>wrote:

> Well I stand corrected Google tells me Toyo brand has been in the US for
> 45 years, however Proxes S/T not introduced until 1998.
>
> Julian
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> mikeldrew at aol.com; michael at michaelshortt.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 13:20:06 -0800
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> Post up the date codes, I struggle to believe even Les would sell 15 year
> old stock and I'm not sure the Proxes or even Toyo's were available back
> then!
>
> Julian
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> From: chrisvkimball at msn.com
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> michael at michaelshortt.com
> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:39:14 -0800
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
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> I put them on about 5 years ago, I think.  They were new from a Les Schwab
> warehouse, but if I'm reading the date code correctly (which may or may not
> be the case...), they might have been manufactured back in '95.  I guess
> I'd better obey all the speed limits until I replace them!
>
> Chris
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> michael at michaelshortt.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:31:12 -0800
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> Any idea how old the rears were when you put them on the car?
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> *Mike Thomas*
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> *VP, POCA*
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> *VP, Panteras Northwest*
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> *Yellow '74 #6328*
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> *From:* DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] *On Behalf Of *Christopher
> Kimball
> *Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2014 9:32 PM
> *To:* Pantdino; mikeldrew at aol.com; michael at michaelshortt.com
> *Cc:* detomaso at poca.com
> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
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> Yes, the Toyos I'm getting for the front are the same as the rear.  The
> ones on the rear I got a few years ago, and they were the last pair they
> had.
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
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> *From: *Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
> *Sent: *2/14/2014 9:24 PM
> *To: *chrisvkimball at msn.com; mikeldrew at aol.com; michael at michaelshortt.com
> *Cc: *detomaso at poca.com
> *Subject: *Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
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> Are the Toyos the same type as you have on the rear, or similar wear
> rating?
>
> If so, they would make sense.  Toyo makes a broad range of tires so the
> manufacturer means little in this case.
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>
> But Mike is right about rear tires-- even some years ago I went to 17"
> wheels because it was getting too hard to find 15" tires to fit the rear.
> (Yes, I know Pirelli runs off a batch every so often.  But there are so
> many modern, great tires readily available in 17" it didn't make sense to
> me to mess with it.)
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> Jim
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>; michael <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:14 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
>
> Bummer.  I just assumed if they had 15" 225s they'd have 285 or 295, too.
>
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> Since I bought the front tires, I've driven over 25,000 miles.  The tire
> guy I went to for alignment said the inner tread was down to the replace
> mark, while the outer tread was still OK, barely.  He said the wheels had a
> slight camber outward, which he said was probably for better cornering.  He
> said it wasn't significant, but if I were going to drive to San Diego, I
> should replace the tires before I left.
>
>
>
> Based on all the comments, especially the part about not mixing tire
> brands, I think I'm going with the Toyos.
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> Thanks everyone!
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> Sincerely,
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>
> Chris
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> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:06:48 -0500
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; michael at michaelshortt.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
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> In a message dated 2/14/14 7 18 3, chrisvkimball at msn.com writes:
>
> When all four tires wear out next time, my sons will be out of college, so
> I'll just buy a whole set of the Pirelli P-zeros.  They are rated to almost
> 200 mph.
>
>
>
> >>>No, you won't.  They don't make any tires in the appropriate size for
> the rear of your car.  They haven't made them in anything approaching that
> size for more than 20 years.  So don't tell people that you are going to
> 'just buy a set of Pirellis', because they will suggest that you do just
> that.  I might suggest it too, if you could, but you can't.
>
> Beware of listening to advice from people who don't know what kind of car
> you have, and are simply assuming that you have a GT5 or GT5-S.  (He is
> running 225/50 front and 295/50 rear Toyos on 15x8 and 15x10 wheels, on a
> stock-body Pantera).
>
> Your only practical choice is to buy new front tires to match your rears
> as closely as possible.
>
> FWIW my H/V rated (rear/front) BFG tires are 20 years old and have been
> subjected to a fair amount of racetrack use (but less road miles than
> yours).  They still have more than half their (tread) life left, although
> they are rather hard and slippery (they weren't much better when new!).
> Take care to align your car and you should get plenty of years out of your
> tires too.
>
> When your front and rear tires wear out, chances are you will be able to
> find a full set of S-rated BFG tires in the appropriate sizes, but that's
> about it.
>
> Mike (with a set of Toyos on the shelf, ready to go on, perhaps later this
> year?)
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