[DeTomaso] Tire advice

Mike Thomas mbefthomas at comcast.net
Sat Feb 15 16:18:49 EST 2014


I found there are a few more choices by going down from the 335 Pirellis
that were on the wheels when I bought them to the 315 Khumos.  You still get
that badass look from the rear, and there is less chance for interference
with the fenders or exhaust.  With the 335s and my Mindtrain exhaust, I had
less than 1/8" clearance from the pipe to the tire sidewall.

Mike Thomas

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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Sean Korb
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 1:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice

Looks perfect!

On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
> Correction on my tire sizes, front 245/40-17, rear 315/35-17
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Sean 
> Korb
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 12:56 PM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
>
> I've got 16/17 wheels and tires and the 16" fronts are pretty darn
radical.
> I'm not sure how 17s would fit on the front and have any appreciable 
> sidewall.  But I have a narrow body car so I rolled the front fenders 
> just a little to get them to fit.  I still have tire contact on the 
> control arm at full droop.  I have a steep driveway so I haven't 
> removed the 1" rubber spring spacers and I think that helps.
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 3:42 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com 
> <michael at michaelshortt.com> wrote:
>> I concur with Julian, if buying today I would go
>> 17/18 (or a bit more radical at 18/19) to ensure a supply of readily 
>> available performance rated tires in the future at relatively 
>> normally prices.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2014 3:28 PM, "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought a set of Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 for my 17" 10 and 13" GT5 
>>> last summer. Availability of the 335-35/17 and 285-40/17 was not a 
>>> problem. The other choice as you say is a P Zero.
>>>
>>> If buying wheels, consider a 17" front and 18" rear, that is what I 
>>> have done for the '74 GP4 project.
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:10:16 -0800
>>> From: lashdeep at yahoo.com
>>> To: b.hower3400 at yahoo.com; pantdino at aol.com; chrisvkimball at msn.com; 
>>> mikeldrew at aol.com; michael at michaelshortt.com
>>> CC: detomaso at poca.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
>>>
>>> A good question.
>>>
>>> What street tires could I run if I switched from my 15x10 and 15x13
>>> Grp4 factory wheels to a 17" wheel?
>>>
>>> Before I bought my replacement set of 15" Yokos 18 mos ago, I 
>>> couldn't find all that many 17" street options.
>>>
>>> Maybe a P Zero model and an older design of Michelins?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> LS
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>; "chrisvkimball at msn.com"
>>> <chrisvkimball at msn.com>; "mikeldrew at aol.com" <mikeldrew at aol.com>; 
>>> "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
>>> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 2:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
>>>
>>> Please inform us on what brand and size tires, on what width wheels, 
>>> you are running. I don't find a lot of tires for front and rear by 
>>> the same manufacture in any wheel size. If I buy a set of tires, 
>>> when I need a new set or a single replacement it seems that tire is 
>>> now
> obsolete.
>>>
>>> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not 
>>> be ! )
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
>>> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; mikeldrew at aol.com; 
>>> michael at michaelshortt.com
>>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>>> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 11:24 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
>>>
>>> Are the Toyos the same type as you have on the rear, or similar wear 
>>> rating?
>>> If so, they would make sense.  Toyo makes a broad range of tires so 
>>> the manufacturer means little in this case.
>>>
>>> But Mike is right about rear tires-- even some years ago I went to 17"
>>> wheels because it was getting too hard to find 15" tires to fit the
rear.
>>> (Yes, I know Pirelli runs off a batch every so often.  But there are 
>>> so many modern, great tires readily available in 17" it didn't make 
>>> sense to me to mess with it.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
>>> To: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>; michael 
>>> <michael at michaelshortt.com>
>>> Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
>>> Sent: Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:14 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
>>>
>>> Bummer.  I just assumed if they had 15" 225s they'd have 285 or 295,
too.
>>>
>>> Since I bought the front tires, I've driven over 25,000 miles.  The 
>>> tire guy I went to for alignment said the inner tread was down to 
>>> the replace mark, while the outer tread was still OK, barely.  He 
>>> said the wheels had a slight camber outward, which he said was 
>>> probably for better cornering.  He said it wasn't significant, but 
>>> if I were going to drive to San Diego, I should replace the tires before
I left.
>>>
>>> Based on all the comments, especially the part about not mixing tire 
>>> brands, I think I'm going with the Toyos.
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
>>> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:06:48 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
>>> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; michael at michaelshortt.com
>>> CC: detomaso at poca.com
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 2/14/14 7 18 3, chrisvkimball at msn.com writes:
>>>
>>>
>>> When all four tires wear out next time, my sons will be out of 
>>> college, so I'll just buy a whole set of the Pirelli P-zeros.  They 
>>> are rated to almost
>>> 200 mph.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >>>No, you won't.  They don't make any tires in the appropriate size 
>>> >>>for  the rear of your car.  They haven't made them in anything 
>>> >>>approaching that  size for more than 20 years.  So don't tell 
>>> >>>people that you are going to  'just buy a set of Pirellis', 
>>> >>>because they will suggest that you do just  that.  I might 
>>> >>>suggest it
> too, if you could, but you can't.
>>>
>>> Beware of listening to advice from people who don't know what kind 
>>> of car you have, and are simply assuming that you have a GT5 or GT5-S.
>>> (He is running 225/50 front and 295/50 rear Toyos on 15x8 and 15x10 
>>> wheels, on a stock-body Pantera).
>>>
>>> Your only practical choice is to buy new front tires to match your 
>>> rears as closely as possible.
>>>
>>> FWIW my H/V rated (rear/front) BFG tires are 20 years old and have 
>>> been subjected to a fair amount of racetrack use (but less road 
>>> miles than yours).  They still have more than half their (tread) 
>>> life left, although they are rather hard and slippery (they weren't 
>>> much better when
> new!).
>>> Take care to align your car and you should get plenty of years out 
>>> of your tires too.
>>>
>>> When your front and rear tires wear out, chances are you will be 
>>> able to find a full set of S-rated BFG tires in the appropriate 
>>> sizes, but that's about it.
>>>
>>> Mike (with a set of Toyos on the shelf, ready to go on, perhaps 
>>> later this
>>> year?)
>>>
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