[DeTomaso] Tire advice

Sean Korb spkorb at gmail.com
Sat Feb 15 16:09:38 EST 2014


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On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
> Correction on my tire sizes, front 245/40-17, rear 315/35-17
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of Sean Korb
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 12:56 PM
> To: detomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
>
> I've got 16/17 wheels and tires and the 16" fronts are pretty darn radical.
> I'm not sure how 17s would fit on the front and have any appreciable
> sidewall.  But I have a narrow body car so I rolled the front fenders just a
> little to get them to fit.  I still have tire contact on the control arm at
> full droop.  I have a steep driveway so I haven't removed the 1" rubber
> spring spacers and I think that helps.
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 3:42 PM, michael at michaelshortt.com
> <michael at michaelshortt.com> wrote:
>> I concur with Julian, if buying today I would go
>> 17/18 (or a bit more radical at 18/19) to ensure a supply of readily
>> available performance rated tires in the future at relatively normally
>> prices.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2014 3:28 PM, "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought a set of Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 for my 17" 10 and 13" GT5
>>> last summer. Availability of the 335-35/17 and 285-40/17 was not a
>>> problem. The other choice as you say is a P Zero.
>>>
>>> If buying wheels, consider a 17" front and 18" rear, that is what I
>>> have done for the '74 GP4 project.
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:10:16 -0800
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>>> To: b.hower3400 at yahoo.com; pantdino at aol.com; chrisvkimball at msn.com;
>>> mikeldrew at aol.com; michael at michaelshortt.com
>>> CC: detomaso at poca.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
>>>
>>> A good question.
>>>
>>> What street tires could I run if I switched from my 15x10 and 15x13
>>> Grp4 factory wheels to a 17" wheel?
>>>
>>> Before I bought my replacement set of 15" Yokos 18 mos ago, I
>>> couldn't find all that many 17" street options.
>>>
>>> Maybe a P Zero model and an older design of Michelins?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> LS
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> ________________________________
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>>> To: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>; "chrisvkimball at msn.com"
>>> <chrisvkimball at msn.com>; "mikeldrew at aol.com" <mikeldrew at aol.com>;
>>> "michael at michaelshortt.com" <michael at michaelshortt.com>
>>> Cc: "detomaso at poca.com" <detomaso at poca.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 2:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
>>>
>>> Please inform us on what brand and size tires, on what width wheels,
>>> you are running. I don't find a lot of tires for front and rear by
>>> the same manufacture in any wheel size. If I buy a set of tires, when
>>> I need a new set or a single replacement it seems that tire is now
> obsolete.
>>>
>>> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not
>>> be ! )
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
>>> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; mikeldrew at aol.com;
>>> michael at michaelshortt.com
>>> Cc: detomaso at poca.com
>>> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 11:24 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
>>>
>>> Are the Toyos the same type as you have on the rear, or similar wear
>>> rating?
>>> If so, they would make sense.  Toyo makes a broad range of tires so
>>> the manufacturer means little in this case.
>>>
>>> But Mike is right about rear tires-- even some years ago I went to 17"
>>> wheels because it was getting too hard to find 15" tires to fit the rear.
>>> (Yes, I know Pirelli runs off a batch every so often.  But there are
>>> so many modern, great tires readily available in 17" it didn't make
>>> sense to me to mess with it.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
>>> To: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>; michael
>>> <michael at michaelshortt.com>
>>> Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
>>> Sent: Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:14 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
>>>
>>> Bummer.  I just assumed if they had 15" 225s they'd have 285 or 295, too.
>>>
>>> Since I bought the front tires, I've driven over 25,000 miles.  The
>>> tire guy I went to for alignment said the inner tread was down to the
>>> replace mark, while the outer tread was still OK, barely.  He said
>>> the wheels had a slight camber outward, which he said was probably
>>> for better cornering.  He said it wasn't significant, but if I were
>>> going to drive to San Diego, I should replace the tires before I left.
>>>
>>> Based on all the comments, especially the part about not mixing tire
>>> brands, I think I'm going with the Toyos.
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
>>> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:06:48 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
>>> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; michael at michaelshortt.com
>>> CC: detomaso at poca.com
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 2/14/14 7 18 3, chrisvkimball at msn.com writes:
>>>
>>>
>>> When all four tires wear out next time, my sons will be out of
>>> college, so I'll just buy a whole set of the Pirelli P-zeros.  They
>>> are rated to almost
>>> 200 mph.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >>>No, you won't.  They don't make any tires in the appropriate size
>>> >>>for  the rear of your car.  They haven't made them in anything
>>> >>>approaching that  size for more than 20 years.  So don't tell
>>> >>>people that you are going to  'just buy a set of Pirellis',
>>> >>>because they will suggest that you do just  that.  I might suggest it
> too, if you could, but you can't.
>>>
>>> Beware of listening to advice from people who don't know what kind of
>>> car you have, and are simply assuming that you have a GT5 or GT5-S.
>>> (He is running 225/50 front and 295/50 rear Toyos on 15x8 and 15x10
>>> wheels, on a stock-body Pantera).
>>>
>>> Your only practical choice is to buy new front tires to match your
>>> rears as closely as possible.
>>>
>>> FWIW my H/V rated (rear/front) BFG tires are 20 years old and have
>>> been subjected to a fair amount of racetrack use (but less road miles
>>> than yours).  They still have more than half their (tread) life left,
>>> although they are rather hard and slippery (they weren't much better when
> new!).
>>> Take care to align your car and you should get plenty of years out of
>>> your tires too.
>>>
>>> When your front and rear tires wear out, chances are you will be able
>>> to find a full set of S-rated BFG tires in the appropriate sizes, but
>>> that's about it.
>>>
>>> Mike (with a set of Toyos on the shelf, ready to go on, perhaps later
>>> this
>>> year?)
>>>
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