[DeTomaso] Tire advice

[Mike Thomas]

Yeeeup.  If that’s the case, you’re running on nearly 20 year old tires.
I’d say that answers the “should I replace all four” question, knowing the
way you drive (oops, did I say that?).

 

Mike Thomas

 

From: Christopher Kimball [mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 12:39 PM
To: Mike Thomas; 'Pantdino'; Mike Drew; michael at michaelshortt.com
Cc: Pantera list serve
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Tire advice

 

I put them on about 5 years ago, I think.  They were new from a Les Schwab
warehouse, but if I'm reading the date code correctly (which may or may not
be the case...), they might have been manufactured back in '95.  I guess I'd
better obey all the speed limits until I replace them!

 

Chris

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CC: detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com> 
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:31:12 -0800

Any idea how old the rears were when you put them on the car?

 

Mike Thomas

VP, POCA

VP, Panteras Northwest

Yellow ’74 #6328

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice

 

Yes, the Toyos I'm getting for the front are the same as the rear.  The ones
on the rear I got a few years ago, and they were the last pair they had.

Sent from my Windows Phone

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Cc: detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice

Are the Toyos the same type as you have on the rear, or similar wear rating?

If so, they would make sense.  Toyo makes a broad range of tires so the
manufacturer means little in this case.

 

But Mike is right about rear tires-- even some years ago I went to 17"
wheels because it was getting too hard to find 15" tires to fit the rear.
(Yes, I know Pirelli runs off a batch every so often.  But there are so many
modern, great tires readily available in 17" it didn't make sense to me to
mess with it.)

 

 

 

Jim

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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice

Bummer.  I just assumed if they had 15" 225s they'd have 285 or 295, too. 

 

Since I bought the front tires, I've driven over 25,000 miles.  The tire guy
I went to for alignment said the inner tread was down to the replace mark,
while the outer tread was still OK, barely.  He said the wheels had a slight
camber outward, which he said was probably for better cornering.  He said it
wasn't significant, but if I were going to drive to San Diego, I should
replace the tires before I left.

 

Based on all the comments, especially the part about not mixing tire brands,
I think I'm going with the Toyos.

 

Thanks everyone!

 

Sincerely,

 

Chris

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From: MikeLDrew at aol.com <mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com> 
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:06:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
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CC: detomaso at poca.com <mailto:detomaso at poca.com> 


In a message dated 2/14/14 7 18 3, chrisvkimball at msn.com
<mailto:chrisvkimball at msn.com>  writes:

When all four tires wear out next time, my sons will be out of college, so
I'll just buy a whole set of the Pirelli P-zeros.  They are rated to almost
200 mph.



>>>No, you won't.  They don't make any tires in the appropriate size for the
rear of your car.  They haven't made them in anything approaching that size
for more than 20 years.  So don't tell people that you are going to 'just
buy a set of Pirellis', because they will suggest that you do just that.  I
might suggest it too, if you could, but you can't.

Beware of listening to advice from people who don't know what kind of car
you have, and are simply assuming that you have a GT5 or GT5-S.  (He is
running 225/50 front and 295/50 rear Toyos on 15x8 and 15x10 wheels, on a
stock-body Pantera).

Your only practical choice is to buy new front tires to match your rears as
closely as possible.

FWIW my H/V rated (rear/front) BFG tires are 20 years old and have been
subjected to a fair amount of racetrack use (but less road miles than
yours).  They still have more than half their (tread) life left, although
they are rather hard and slippery (they weren't much better when new!).
Take care to align your car and you should get plenty of years out of your
tires too.

When your front and rear tires wear out, chances are you will be able to
find a full set of S-rated BFG tires in the appropriate sizes, but that's
about it.

Mike (with a set of Toyos on the shelf, ready to go on, perhaps later this
year?)

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