[DeTomaso] Tire advice

michael at michaelshortt.com michael at michaelshortt.com
Sat Feb 15 15:42:24 EST 2014


I concur with Julian, if buying today I would go
17/18 (or a bit more radical at 18/19) to ensure a supply of readily
available performance rated tires in the future at relatively normally
prices.

Michael
On Feb 15, 2014 3:28 PM, "Julian Kift" <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I bought a set of Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 for my 17" 10 and 13" GT5 last
> summer. Availability of the 335-35/17 and 285-40/17 was not a problem. The
> other choice as you say is a P Zero.
>
> If buying wheels, consider a 17" front and 18" rear, that is what I have
> done for the '74 GP4 project.
>
> Julian
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> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 12:10:16 -0800
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> A good question.
>
> What street tires could I run if I switched from my 15x10 and 15x13 Grp4
> factory wheels to a 17" wheel?
>
> Before I bought my replacement set of 15" Yokos 18 mos ago, I couldn't
> find all that many 17" street options.
>
> Maybe a P Zero model and an older design of Michelins?
>
> Thanks,
> LS
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>  *From:* B Hower <b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
> *To:* Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>; "chrisvkimball at msn.com" <
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> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
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> Please inform us on what brand and size tires, on what width wheels, you
> are running. I don't find a lot of tires for front and rear by the same
> manufacture in any wheel size. If I buy a set of tires, when I need a new
> set or a single replacement it seems that tire is now obsolete.
>
> Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
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>  *From:* Pantdino <pantdino at aol.com>
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> *Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2014 11:24 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
>
> Are the Toyos the same type as you have on the rear, or similar wear
> rating?
> If so, they would make sense.  Toyo makes a broad range of tires so the
> manufacturer means little in this case.
>
> But Mike is right about rear tires-- even some years ago I went to 17"
> wheels because it was getting too hard to find 15" tires to fit the rear.
> (Yes, I know Pirelli runs off a batch every so often.  But there are so
> many modern, great tires readily available in 17" it didn't make sense to
> me to mess with it.)
>
>
>
> Jim
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> To: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>; michael <michael at michaelshortt.com>
> Cc: Pantera list serve <detomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Fri, Feb 14, 2014 2:14 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
>
>  Bummer.  I just assumed if they had 15" 225s they'd have 285 or 295,
> too.
>
>  Since I bought the front tires, I've driven over 25,000 miles.  The tire
> guy I went to for alignment said the inner tread was down to the replace
> mark, while the outer tread was still OK, barely.  He said the wheels had a
> slight camber outward, which he said was probably for better cornering.  He
> said it wasn't significant, but if I were going to drive to San Diego, I
> should replace the tires before I left.
>
>  Based on all the comments, especially the part about not mixing tire
> brands, I think I'm going with the Toyos.
>
>  Thanks everyone!
>
>  Sincerely,
>
>  Chris
>
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> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:06:48 -0500
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tire advice
> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; michael at michaelshortt.com
> CC: detomaso at poca.com
>
>
> In a message dated 2/14/14 7 18 3, chrisvkimball at msn.com writes:
>
>
> When all four tires wear out next time, my sons will be out of college, so
> I'll just buy a whole set of the Pirelli P-zeros.  They are rated to almost
> 200 mph.
>
>
>
> >>>No, you won't.  They don't make any tires in the appropriate size for
> the rear of your car.  They haven't made them in anything approaching that
> size for more than 20 years.  So don't tell people that you are going to
> 'just buy a set of Pirellis', because they will suggest that you do just
> that.  I might suggest it too, if you could, but you can't.
>
> Beware of listening to advice from people who don't know what kind of car
> you have, and are simply assuming that you have a GT5 or GT5-S.  (He is
> running 225/50 front and 295/50 rear Toyos on 15x8 and 15x10 wheels, on a
> stock-body Pantera).
>
> Your only practical choice is to buy new front tires to match your rears
> as closely as possible.
>
> FWIW my H/V rated (rear/front) BFG tires are 20 years old and have been
> subjected to a fair amount of racetrack use (but less road miles than
> yours).  They still have more than half their (tread) life left, although
> they are rather hard and slippery (they weren't much better when new!).
> Take care to align your car and you should get plenty of years out of your
> tires too.
>
> When your front and rear tires wear out, chances are you will be able to
> find a full set of S-rated BFG tires in the appropriate sizes, but that's
> about it.
>
> Mike (with a set of Toyos on the shelf, ready to go on, perhaps later this
> year?)
>
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